Re: [PD] a story for Lists

2009-04-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think it would be possible to make a library that treated every message with more than one element as a list. It would be a library of pack, unpack, prepend, append, route, etc. Like [list append], [list

Re: [PD] auto 1 loops pix_film (and pix_movie?)

2009-04-08 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hey.. thanks Derek, yes i've already done what you're saying for my project C::NTR::L and i have a simple process which give me dynamically the total frames for each video you load. I was asking just to know the truth about it :) Since i'm using this process a lot i could create a specific

Re: [PD] a story for Lists

2009-04-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: basically because it is like it is. i guess that if someone (not completely naive; and with an eye on language-design and not just tool-design) would go and re-invent the wheel, they would make lists

Re: [PD] , , , || etc

2009-04-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 6, 2009, at 5:26 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So a library like 'audiomath' would then have audiomath/libaudiomath.pd_linux. Normally, audiomath/libaudiomath.pd_linux would only include shared code, but for this case, it

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread cyrille henry
Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, there is some absurdity to this conversation. I guess Frank and I have been doing this for so long, its just part of a game we play ;-) Anyway, I could give the instructions in one

Re: [PD] Multiblob and matrices...

2009-04-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Simon Ball wrote: Thanks for these, that's made it much clearer. However, in my version of pd (0.40.3-extended - mac, OSX 10.4.11) the [pix_blobtracker] doesn't seem to load. Is this a subpatch that makes use of multiblob that I don't have, or is it an object that I am missing? its an

Re: [PD] Multiblob and matrices...

2009-04-08 Thread marius schebella
2009/4/8 Simon Ball sballm...@googlemail.com: Thanks for these, that's made it much clearer. However, in my version of pd (0.40.3-extended - mac, OSX 10.4.11) the [pix_blobtracker] doesn't seem to load. Is this a subpatch that makes use of multiblob that I don't have, or is it an object that

Re: [PD] Multiblob and matrices...

2009-04-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Simon Ball wrote: I assume that the patches you've provided (greatly appreciated) collate the data in someway in order for me to be able to unpack it? However, I'm not sure that I even understand exactly how 'unpack' and 'route' work, which is obviously a problem! in this case i would highly

Re: [PD] Has anyone used PD to read internet radio streams?

2009-04-08 Thread John Harrison
I've used mp3amp~ to play shoutcast streams. It seems to work pretty well and I think it's already included in Pd-extended for Linux. Might be on the OSX version too...not sure. -John On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:41 AM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, I'm wondering if anyone has

Re: [PD] auto 1 loops pix_film (and pix_movie?)

2009-04-08 Thread Jack
Le 8 avr. 09 à 10:34, Marco Donnarumma a écrit : Hey.. thanks Derek, yes i've already done what you're saying for my project C::NTR::L and i have a simple process which give me dynamically the total frames for each video you load. With the 2nd output of [pix_film] for exemple ? ;) ++

Re: [PD] Has anyone used PD to read internet radio streams?

2009-04-08 Thread Luigi
Hi, well not directly, but i did use mplayer (commandline) to receive internet radion stations and you can send them (also multiple streams) to PD via Jack... The advantage: you are not limited to shoutcast. That worked quite good Best Luigi Am 08.04.2009 um 14:49 schrieb John Harrison:

Re: [PD] auto 1 loops pix_film (and pix_movie?)

2009-04-08 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Yes, Connect the second outlet of [pix_film] to [unpack]. Then the first outlet of [unpack] will give you the total amount of frames of the video you load. So you can connect the first outlet of [unpack] to the last inlet of [counter]. This will set the maximum value to reach for [counter]. I use

Re: [PD] , , , || etc

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:19 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 6, 2009, at 5:26 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So a library like 'audiomath' would then have audiomath/ libaudiomath.pd_linux. Normally,

Re: [PD] a story for Lists

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:51 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: basically because it is like it is. i guess that if someone (not completely naive; and with an eye on language-design and not just

Re: [PD] Has anyone used PD to read internet radio streams?

2009-04-08 Thread august
Howdy, I'm wondering if anyone has used PD to read internet radio streams? I need to make an interactive tuner ... you can also try this: http://aug.ment.org/readanysf/ It was made just for that. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [PD] (Ask) Master Degree in New Media Arts

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I should through in some others: http://bxmc.poly.edu/ http://dt.parsons.edu/ http://www.interactivearts.org/ http://ccrma.stanford.edu/info/mst-info.html .hc On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:41 AM, Koray Tahiroglu wrote: http://mlab.taik.fi/ especially there is a new MA program already started this

Re: [PD] auto 1 loops pix_film (and pix_movie?)

2009-04-08 Thread Derek Holzer
Sorry, no time to patch it for you now, but basically send the total number of frames output by [pix_film] to the cold inlet of mod, send the output of the counter to the hot inlet of [mod]. By changing the speed of the [metro] in the counter, you change frame playback rate. You can also put

[PD] morphing

2009-04-08 Thread Johannes
hello list, i like to morph two samples about a duration of one minute. what is the the most accurate, i mean smoothest, way to do that in pd? has anybody experience with that? thanks, johannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] auto 1 loops pix_film (and pix_movie?)

2009-04-08 Thread Jack
Here a small exemple.++Jack scratchvideo.pd Description: Binary data Le 8 avr. 09 à 16:52, Marco Donnarumma a écrit :Yes, Connect the second outlet of [pix_film] to [unpack].Then the first outlet of [unpack] will give you the total amount of frames of the video you load.So you can connect the

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:35 AM, cyrille henry wrote: Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, there is some absurdity to this conversation. I guess Frank and I have been doing this for so long, its just part of a game we play

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:59 AM, cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Inside of the objects themselves, I use always the [mapping/ reverse] form. Only in the help patches do I use the [reverse] form. That convention seemed to make sense at the time, but I am not married

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:54 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You cheat a bit here: svn co whereverlibdiris; make libdir, and I don't know, if help-files in mapping work then - with just your sets they won't. And you still

[PD] start-up messages weirdnesses

2009-04-08 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, I've been using for a long time an old version of GEM, because for a series of compatibility and stability issues it was the only one that worked for me when I investigated, which was a couple of years ago (2007). At that time, the latest official release dated back to 2004 and the

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Luckily the solution is simple: svn update. Sounds like you are working with an old copy. The folder externals/mapping/help should be gone, all the help patches in externals/mapping, and there should be a

[PD] timing issues in Windows Vista

2009-04-08 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, This drives me crazy. I'm trying PD 0.42-4 on Windows Vista. Always used XP before. Logical time runs 50% slower than real time, i.e. 1000 logical millisecond pass in approximately 1500 real milliseconds. Yet there is no abnormal CPU consumption. Try the attached patch. On any normal

Re: [PD] morphing

2009-04-08 Thread Max
crossfade? m. Am 08.04.2009 um 18:05 schrieb Johannes: hello list, i like to morph two samples about a duration of one minute. what is the the most accurate, i mean smoothest, way to do that in pd? has anybody experience with that? thanks, johannes PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:35 AM, cyrille henry wrote: i think for this specific lib, any dependency of object outside it's directory can be seen as a bug. I don't understand this at all. Why did every modern operating

Re: [PD] morphing

2009-04-08 Thread 老于 / Jürgen
oh dear, if crossfading would do the job it wouldn't be called 'morphing' but 'mixing'. there's a paper on morphing here, a bit old but still... http://cobweb.ecn.purdue.edu/~malcolm/interval/1995-061/ AudioMorphingPaper.pdf On 09 Apr 2009, at 3:10 AM, Max wrote: crossfade? m. Am

Re: [PD] morphing

2009-04-08 Thread marius schebella
There's a help patch I06 timbre stamp, if you want some quick kinda morphing effect. Marius. 老于 / Jürgen wrote: oh dear, if crossfading would do the job it wouldn't be called 'morphing' but 'mixing'. there's a paper on morphing here, a bit old but still...

[PD] beat detection

2009-04-08 Thread Scott Wade
Hi guys, Sorry if this is the wrong forum or if the question is too simple - I want to detect beats in audio coming from turntables in order to drive visuals in time to the beat. What is the best object to use for this? Thanks in advance W ___

Re: [PD] beat detection

2009-04-08 Thread Alex
there is [bonk~] in pd there is also a pd external that uses aubio [in the aubio distro i think, it is also in apt [ubuntu]. -Alex On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Scott Wade wade...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Sorry if this is the wrong forum or if the question is too simple - I want to detect

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:35 AM, cyrille henry wrote: i think for this specific lib, any dependency of object outside it's directory can be seen as a bug. I don't

Re: [PD] Pdpedia and random generation

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There are lots of good ideas worth trying. We've talked about it a lot, we just need someone to take charge of it. I am just too overloaded to handle pdpedia on top of everything else. Who wants to own it? .hc On Apr 1, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Jean-Noël Montagné wrote: It would be

Re: [PD] beat detection

2009-04-08 Thread cristiano figueiró
[aubioonset~] | [rhythm] :) On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Alex x37v.a...@gmail.com wrote: there is [bonk~] in pd there is also a pd external that uses aubio [in the aubio distro i think, it is also in apt [ubuntu]. -Alex On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Scott Wade wade...@gmail.com

Re: [PD] beat detection

2009-04-08 Thread Derek Holzer
Try the following as well... D. Alex wrote: there is [bonk~] in pd there is also a pd external that uses aubio [in the aubio distro i think, it is also in apt [ubuntu]. -Alex On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Scott Wade wade...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Sorry if this is the wrong forum or if

[PD] how to capture movement

2009-04-08 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Dear friends, i have a question,¿ how i can capture movement or apply a matrix for segments detect?... i test the gem help with the x_blob but is not enough, very inestable... Cheers from Chile José Luis -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/santorcuato

[PD] movement detect

2009-04-08 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Dear friends, i have a question,¿ how i can capture movement or apply a matrix for segments detect?... i test the gem help with the x_blob but is not enough, very inestable... Cheers from Chile José Luis -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/santorcuato

Re: [PD] Has anyone used PD to read internet radio streams?

2009-04-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 07:41 +0200, danomatika wrote: Howdy, I'm wondering if anyone has used PD to read internet radio streams? in german, one would say 'jein', for yes and no. i did work on a project with pd controlling radio streams, but i haven't used pd to actually receive the

Re: [PD] timing issues in Windows Vista

2009-04-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
i think, the samplingrate, that pd thinks it is using and the one that it is actually using, are differnt. try an [osc~ 440], it will sound like a d. can't tell, what is causing that confusion. check your soundcard settings. 1.5 could be related to 32kHz (real) - 48kHz (imaginary) confusion.

Re: [PD] Pdpedia and random generation

2009-04-08 Thread dmotd
hi folks, i am somewhat interested in investing some time in pdpedia, but i have a few concerns with mediawiki as a container for pd related data. obviously mediawiki is an excellent versioning platform and has a strong following for many technical wiki's in the open-source community. i

Re: [PD] Pdpedia and random generation

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I don't think that pdpedia is a replacement or substitute for interactive help patches. But mediawiki is a great tool for getting lots of bits of information from a lot of people. So I think that pdpedia could be used as a place to orgnanize content, like reference info, links to

Re: [PD] Has anyone used PD to read internet radio streams?

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I know the locusonus people were using Pd for receiving streams. Its definitely possible. .hc On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 07:41 +0200, danomatika wrote: Howdy, I'm wondering if anyone has used PD to read internet radio streams? in german,