[PD] [PD-announce] LAK Festival of Nordic Sound Art Open Call for Installations
OPEN CALL LAK FESTIVAL OF NORDIC SOUND ART We are looking for sculpture and/or installation work for this year’s festival taking place in Copenhagen September 26-29th 2013. TERMS AND CONDITIONS • You are an artist from any of the Nordic countries • You work in the field of sound-related sculpture or installation art • You want to exhibit new work or work that hasn’t been exhibited in Denmark before • We can provide a fee of €350 including transportation and travel expenses • We can provide AV equipment such as microphones, speakers, mixers, projectors etc. • We can provide food and housing on our humble festival grounds during the festival EXHIBITION SETTINGS The festival takes place in an old factory and you can exhibit your work in one of three settings: • a large, white gallery room of 7x9.5 meters • a large, industrial concrete room of 7x9.5 meters with a high ceiling of 4 meters • outside on the factory grounds PROPOSAL Send your proposal (or any questions) to c...@lakfestival.dk before August 1st and please provide links to audio, video, or photos of the work in question or previous work. And go to www.lakfestival.dk or www.facebook.com/lakfestival to check out last year’s festival! -- derek holzer noise.art.technology http://macumbista.net -- derek holzer noise.art.technology http://macumbista.net ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] MusicMakers Hacklab at CTM.13 – “Indeterminism Machines”
Dear Pd-people, I will be the general assistant for this upcoming hacklab/workshop scenario at CTM.13 in Berlin. It’s a very interesting bunch of characters involved, and the application process just started. So send some shit in! Best wishes! D. ---MusicMakers Hacklab @ CTM.13 – “Indeterminism Machines” ---Submission Deadline: 11.1.2013 ---Hacklab Runs: 29.1 – 1.2.2013 We don’t want to just talk about the future: we want to invent our own Golden Age. The MusicMakers Hacklab at CTM.13 will be an open, collaborative environment in which participants can learn about new technologies and get their hands on making their own musical inventions. It’s a space in which people can build a rapid prototype of anything they imagine, creating new ideas around music making and creation, from composition to performance and DJing. We’re inviting people across media to encourage collaboration: musicians, developers, artists, designers, people working in skills like sound and music, but also code, fashion, visuals, and industrial design and craft. Throughout the week, we’ll welcome artist and developer presentations from Keith Fullerton Whitman, Imogen Heap, Lucas Abela, Tim Exile, Ali Demirel, Native Instruments, Ableton, and others to be announced. Participants will share hands-on skill sessions on topics like physical computing and custom controllers, wearable technology and fashion, live visuals, Pure Data/libpd, Max for Live, Reaktor, OpenSoundControl, Quartz Composer, Processing, and more. PARTICIPANT INFO Selected participants who have proposed a project idea will be named official Hacklab Fellows and be provided with: * A free CTM Festival Pass; * Highlighted profile on CTM and createdigitalmusic.com websites; * The chance to show your finished work at the live showcase at Berghain Kantine on 1 Feb, as part of the CTM.13 program. In that spirit of sharing and community, the Hacklab will be open to walk-ins from both hackers and the general public. HOW TO APPLY To be part of the Hacklab Fellows program, please submit: * A 150-word description of the project you’d like to execute; * A 100-word bio; * If you’d like, send us any images, sketches, videos, or websites you’d like to help us promote your participation and see what’s inside your head. (optional) Remember that you can include an idea about collaboration in your proposal – some Hacklab participants might want to join in your project. Send your submission (and any questions/comments) to: musicmakers(at)ctm-festival.de by 11.1.2013. Presented with createdigitalmusic.com in collaboration with SemiDomesticated and CTM Curated by Peter Kirn General Assistant: Derek Holzer -- derek holzer noise.art.technology http://macumbista.net ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended-0.43.1 win32
And this is because you might want to use Pd without using any of the objects? One gets the feeling things have become unnecessarily complex... D. On 5/13/11 3:15 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: pd-extended removed all objects from Pd-core, so you have to load the stdlib explicitely (forgot it's exact name but you should find it in the list archives or wait till hans replies to this email) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] CVs
Ice cream, man. You all should be thinking about ice cream. It's sunny outside in most parts of the world, get out there and find you some! D. On 5/11/11 4:15 PM, Andy Farnell wrote: Dark matter is just any old stuff in the dark. What you want is a lump of this stuff; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] old dfx-bufferoverride~
What I know is that you didn't give us much information... Are you trying to compile this or trying to load it? What Pd version, platform, etc? The external uses the Flext library, so you need it to compile. Flext is no longer in Pd-Extended, if that is what you are using. D. On 5/5/11 4:03 PM, Willy WOLFF wrote: Hello, I would like to use this externals, but i have /usr/lib/pd/extra/bufferoverride~.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/bufferoverride~.pd_linux: undefined symbol: _ZN17flext_base_single4InitEv Somebody know wath is this message? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Fwd: Re: old dfx-bufferoverride~
Forwarding your private reply to list. Maybe some Flext guru still lives there... D. Original Message Subject: Re: [PD] old dfx-bufferoverride~ Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 16:32:12 +0200 From: Willy WOLFF willy.wolf...@gmail.com To: Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl I use pd-0.43 under GNU/Gentoo Linux I trying to load it in pd. Flext and dfx-library are installed. Willy. On 05/05/2011 04:27 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: What I know is that you didn't give us much information... Are you trying to compile this or trying to load it? What Pd version, platform, etc? The external uses the Flext library, so you need it to compile. Flext is no longer in Pd-Extended, if that is what you are using. D. On 5/5/11 4:03 PM, Willy WOLFF wrote: Hello, I would like to use this externals, but i have /usr/lib/pd/extra/bufferoverride~.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/bufferoverride~.pd_linux: undefined symbol: _ZN17flext_base_single4InitEv Somebody know wath is this message? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Switch from PureData!
Waiting for the 200+ posts about why this is completely wrong, complete with forgotten source-code patches that could easily fix the problem dating back to 1979 ;-) D. On 5/2/11 2:57 PM, l'ull cec wrote: the kind of things that are cumbersome or hard to do in PureData ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] contact mic beeswax
You want raw beeswax. Health food store, art supply shop, apiary shop or any place where hippies go to get stuff to make dreadlocks. Blue-tack works about the same. Good luck! D. On 4/27/11 12:16 PM, Oded Ben-Tal wrote: hi, quite a few places reccomend using beeswax to attach contact microphones to instruments. Looking around there are various types of products sold as beeswax for different applications (shoe-shine, furniture polishing, etc.) anyone knows what kind, and more importantly in which type of shop, should I get? I'm in London if that helps. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sample stretcher?
Miller's phase vocoder patch in the help files could do this using FFT resynthesis. Also my ParticleChamber abstraction (http://macumbista.net/?page_id=514) or Frank's [syncgrain~] object would do it with granular synthesis. Each approach has it's pluses and minuses. I don't know how long the Ableton folks worked on their stretching functions, but I think a long time. And there are still 5 different ones to choose from depending on the source material, which basically correspond to different grain lengths, density and overlap. Best, D. On 4/1/11 2:57 PM, João Pais wrote: Hi, I am looking for an object (or patch) that can stretch samples (rate of or than 1), like e.g. elasticx~ for max. I'm already looking around, but thought if I ask here for sugestions, people who know more than me can give a better example. Does anyone have a good sugestion? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] beat onset detector (in style von recycle)?
Why not run through the file with [bonk~] and write attack times it detects as metadata into text file or array? D. On 3/24/11 2:44 AM, João Pais wrote: Hi, I wanted to ask if someone works/worked with beat detection in style of recycle. That is, a patch that can analyse assymetric audio files (I mean, files with improvised content), and suggest mark points to where attacks can happen. Afaik, there is no external that does this automatically, right? Thanks, João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] The economics of Open source
Specifically, the *only* function missing from the non-donation OSX version of Ardour is support for AudioUnit plugins on the Mac. I have no problem with the Ardour model of distribution, and AFAIK you can still use your package manager in almost any Linux distro to avoid even being asked to help support development. Ardour is one of the best things coming out of the world of free software for audio production happening right now, and is well worth any support you can give. Best, Derek On 3/18/11 3:17 PM, ailo wrote: On 03/18/2011 01:39 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: They're saying that some functionalities are missing if you don't pay. No functionalities are missing to my knowledge. ' ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] select folder object?
If you promise not to use Windows, hurt small kittens or oppress any Latin American countries with it, maybe you can use the [playlist] object for that. Derek On 2/16/11 10:58 AM, David Schaffer wrote: Hi there, I'm a big openpanel fan, really... But I as wondering if there was such thing as a select folder object. It would come handy in some of my patches when I'm trying to tell pd what folder it has to look into to find audio files. Up to know, I'v done this by using openpanel and some symbol/list management functions, but there must be a simpler way... Thanks for your answers. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 183: When is it for? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter
HC: I don't think the Booki pages are meant to be used yet. Proper URL would be: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/Lists To Adam and Aco: will the old stuff get synched/transferred to the new Booki pages at some point? Will the URL of the Pd FLOSS Manual change to the Booki one? Also, my login for the old pages doesn't work on the new Booki pages, nor am I notified of changes to the new Booki based chapters. Please clarify. Best, Derek On 2/11/11 5:25 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just updated the Lists chapter in the FLOSS Manuals Pure Data book, I'd love to have some people review it: http://booki.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/edit/ .hc -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 204: What do you do? Now, what do you do best?' ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Need Help Understanding pack
Perhaps the wording of that section should more clearly state that creation order cannot be relied on, rather than inferring that one can use it as a proper way of patching. I would be very happy if someone wanted to have a look at that chapter and clarify things. Best! Derek On 2/9/11 8:52 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: The FLOSS manual says that the order you hook things up in part determines the order they do things. But I can't make that make a difference. Just forget completely about this. The order you create connections matters in reality, but never, ever rely on it when patching. Treat every patch as if someone else created it and as if you'd have no idea, what order he made the connections. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 46: Disconnect from desire ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards
Dear Pd folks, Adam Hyde has asked for your support by voting for Booki in the Open Web Awards. Booki will be the new platform for all the FLOSS Manuals, including the Pure Data one. So a vote for Booki is a vote for the Pd FLOSS Manual! Best wishes from Berlin! Derek *** vote for booki in the Open Web Awards! Booki (the latest FM project - http://www.booki.cc - a collaborative publishing platform) is in the final of the Open Web Awards. Great! We are 1 of 3 projects. If we win we get 5000 which we will use to do a code sprint on a tropical island somewhere ;) please please please register : http://www.drumbeat.org/user/register and vote for us by visiting this page and clicking on the 'vote' link (top right): http://www.drumbeat.org/project/open-web-publishing and pass this around :) Adam Hyde Founder FLOSS Manuals Booki Project Manager Contact Information German mobile : + 49 177 4935122 Email : a...@flossmanuals.net irc : irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals Free manuals for free software http://www.flossmanuals.net/about Free Software for making Free Books http://www.booki.cc/ ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hardware implementation of [*~]
I built an analog multiplier module out of the AD633. Datasheet has many other mathematical functions. See here: http://macumbista.net/?p=1314 Best, D. On 2/3/11 11:07 PM, Tyler Leavitt wrote: My question is what would be the hardware equivalent of the [*~] object. I guess it don't have to be digital... even an analog equivalent would help me understand it better. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 156: The tape is now the music ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards
Thanks everyone! D. On 2/3/11 10:08 PM, :a wrote: +1 -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 25: Cascades ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Am I alone?
Obvious troll. Send him to SIberia for re-education, let him make the same stupid, halfway mainstream, commercially-aspiring, completely boring intelligent dance music that every other Ableton Live user might make and leave the rest of us alone. D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 56: Do the washing up ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-OT][Is: Re: Am I alone?]
Please note that the OP cross-posted his uneducated hillbilly spewage to no less than five different mailing lists, and some rather specific ones at that. This implies to me that his parents didn't abuse him nearly enough as a child and that he's looking for more through the anonymity of the internet. This topic was already discussed to death 10 years ago on the microsound list. I advise those interested/bored enough to check the archives there. D. On 1/30/11 11:47 AM, patko wrote: you guys are really funny, not right, not wrong. I don't deny that some people could be frustrated because they don't really understand electroacoustic music, but this kind of answer is at same level of psychology. ;-) youtube.com/watch?v=fgILndlspps - Derek Holzerde...@umatic.nl a écrit : Obvious troll. Send him to SIberia for re-education, let him make the same stupid, halfway mainstream, commercially-aspiring, completely boring intelligent dance music that every other Ableton Live user might make and leave the rest of us alone. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 9: Adding on ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Flossmanual is down
Hi all, yes I was in touch and it is an error in the system due to some updates. They have said that it should be back online today. Best! Derek On 1/18/11 12:07 PM, ailo wrote: They seem to be changing something. Hopefully the pd manual should appear within the day or so. If not, we could ask them why. Here's some discussion about it: http://lists.flossmanuals.net/pipermail/discuss-flossmanuals.net/2011-January/005020.html On 01/18/2011 10:39 AM, ALAN BROOKER wrote: That was an excellent resource- seems to have disappeared from index page as well? On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Nic Freedbeatthefinalb...@gmail.comwrote: I mentioned it on #dataflow, and they said to put it here, so, here we are :) I was going back to the (very useful) pd flossmanual, but now it seems to be down. The people at the chat said its probably a sysadmin error or something, idunno. http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/ Thanks! --Nic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 38: Courage! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd in mac app store
But kids have such a shorter attention span these days D. On 1/8/11 4:29 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: BTW, the nineties had another site for that, which had a lot more text, from which you could actually learn, instead of OMG FAIL. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 46: Disconnect from desire ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (OT) audio (but not only) software in ubuntu maverick
The best FLOSS soundfile editor I found was Rezound, however it has not been active since 2007 so I don't know how up to date it is anymore. One huge problem was that its JACK support was/is crap. http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ If you are one of those scripty kinds of kids, then you could check out snd: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/ Of course the Ardour/Jamin package for multitracking and mastering is unbeatable: http://www.ardour.org/ http://jamin.sourceforge.net/en/about.html And two fun toys to play with: http://www.essej.net/sooperlooper/ (live looping) http://freqtweak.sourceforge.net/ (spectral delay) Best! Derek On 1/8/11 12:25 PM, João Pais wrote: Hi, I'm trying once more ubuntu on my thinkpad laptop, this time maverick. So far things are going well, pdext+jack+ardour (from source) are working, and the system didn't break down after some days of setup+work (which is more than last time). As I'm not up to date on ubuntu, I wanted to ask about suggestions for audio software suited for quality work. I would be looking for a sound editor, ladspa/lv2 effects (specially good EQs), etc. etc. Also any other sugestions for small aplications that make life easier (e.g. extra menus, file management, mp3/ogg players/converters, ...) are welcome. If anyone also uses a thinkpad and has a way of seting up the trackpoint, I would be interested to know. Thanks, João Pais -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 205: First work alone, then work in unusual pairs. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] avoiding collapse of freeverb
Any digital filter will blow up when it becomes saturated. Clipping to -1 and 1 doesn't help, because then you could be sending values of -1 and 1 almost constantly to the object. Look at the help file for [limiter~] and use that ahead of your freeverb perhaps. Not having a high value for the feedback in the reverb itself can help. nan stands for Not A Number, and objects give this when they are incapable of calculating values any more. D. On 1/8/11 6:20 PM, ronni montoya wrote: hello, if i send signals with extreme amplitude to freeverb it collapses and it stop making any sound, and then it just output the word nah if i conect the output to a env~. For avoiding this i tried to connect a clip -1 1 object before freeverb but it doesnt work and freeverb still crashing, any idea how to avoid this crashing and why clip -1 1 doesnt work here? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 154: The most easily forgotten thing is the most important ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] avoiding collapse of freeverb
Alternately, use [/~ 10] in front of the freeverb and [*~ 10] after. This should scale things enough without losing too much resolution. It is digital after all. D. On 1/8/11 6:28 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: Any digital filter will blow up when it becomes saturated. Clipping to -1 and 1 doesn't help, because then you could be sending values of -1 and 1 almost constantly to the object. Look at the help file for [limiter~] and use that ahead of your freeverb perhaps. Not having a high value for the feedback in the reverb itself can help. nan stands for Not A Number, and objects give this when they are incapable of calculating values any more. D. On 1/8/11 6:20 PM, ronni montoya wrote: hello, if i send signals with extreme amplitude to freeverb it collapses and it stop making any sound, and then it just output the word nah if i conect the output to a env~. For avoiding this i tried to connect a clip -1 1 object before freeverb but it doesnt work and freeverb still crashing, any idea how to avoid this crashing and why clip -1 1 doesnt work here? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 129: Put in earplugs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] news from the server admins
Thanks to all those who slept not! D. On 1/7/11 8:28 PM, IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: the never-sleeping puredata.info administration crew has worked countless hours (if not days) to restore the machine back to it's un-compromised state -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 25: Cascades ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Regenwald 2011: workshop/installation/performance @ Club Transmediale Berlin
Regenwald 2011: a workshop/installation/performance in the spirit of David Tudor for Club Transmediale Berlin with Derek Holzer (USA/DE) Mads Bech Paluszewski (DK) Direct links: http://macumbista.net/?p=2018 http://www.clubtransmediale.de/ctm-festival/day-program/regenwald-2011.html *Overview* Regenwald 2011 is a contemporary re-interpretation of David Tudor’s series of compositions from the 1970′s entitled “Rainforest”. It uses various types of sonic transducers to play live sounds through various resonant objects in the performance space, as well as through architectural features of the space itself. Additionally, an 8×8 matrix mixer allows the sound from any of the objects to be sent to any of the performers, making the whole piece an experiment in generative chaos. Regenwald 2011 will be developed in a workshop format with up to 8 participants over a period of several days. The resulting work should shift between relatively static installation-like moments and performative sections where the artists seek new relationships with the objects and each other. The audience is free to move around the performance space, engage in conversations and explore the resonant objects, thus adding new life to the rainforest. A opening night presentation will introduce the concept of Regenwald 2011 and the context of “Schematic as Score” as seen in the works of both David Tudor and John Cage. *Documentation* A rough schematic of a previous transducer system (Regenskog 2010) can be seen here: http://macumbista.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/regnskog_notext.png Documentation of Regenskog 2010 can be found here: http://macumbista.net/?p=1840 *Dates* 28 January – 01 February, 12-19:00 daily: Regenwald 2011 workshop in West Germany, Kottbusser Tor, Berlin 01 February 21:00: opening Regenwald 2011 presentation/performance, West Germany, Kottbusser Tor, Berlin 02 February – 05 February 18-22:00 daily: Regenwald 2011 installation, West Germany, Kottbusser Tor, Berlin *Participate* The Regenwald 2011 workshop is open for 8 participants who will be selected and notified on or before 16 January 2011. There is no fee to participate. Applying participants should be: –Comfortable working in a collaborative environment –Knowledgeable in the basics of acoustics –Proficient in one or more chosen analog or digital sound instruments and/or systems for working with sound –Capable of bringing any equipment they require beyond the basics of the transducer system (instruments, mixers, computers, etc etc) Please send an email to regenwald2...@clubtransmediale.de by 12 January with the following information: –Name, location and short bio (max 100 words) –Short statement of interest (max 300 words) –Short description of your chosen instrument or system (max 300 words) –Links to audio/video documentation of one solo work and one collaborative work you have made *Workshop Leaders* Derek Holzer (1972) is an American sound artist living in Berlin, whose current interests include DIY analog electronics, sound art, field recording and the meeting points of electroacoustic, noise, improv and extreme music. He has played live experimental sound, as well as taught workshops in noise art technology, across Europe, North America, Brazil and New Zealand. http://www.macumbista.net Danish sound artist and cultural producer Mads Bech Paluszewski (1977) works with circuit bending, sound installations, tactile acoustics and performances from his Copenhagen base. Solo and as a member of several groups of experimental audio/visual music and performance groups, he has performed at many Nordic music and sound art festivals. He has also held several workshops in circuit bending and user driven sound installations in Denmark. *Partners* Regenwald is a join production of DISK/Club Transmediale and Tuned City/DOCK e.V. http://www.clubtransmediale.de http://www.tunedcity.net -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 172: Use `unqualified' people ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] help text not formatted very well?
Hi Aaron, I remember the font and the ALSAmixer mentioned in your other thread as both being common n00b problems on Linux. The font problem comes when the default Tcl/Tk font in the Linux system is different from that used in the help files. I don't recall the solution to this, but maybe that will help you search the archives better. With the ALSAmixer, you have to make sure that it does not pass the sound from the microphone directly through to the speakers. IIRC, this is not so intuitively labeled in the ALSAmixer. But one of the onscreen fader-like controls (or its MUTE command) does this, and once you set it and save the mixer settings it will never bother you again. Good luck, D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 57: Do the words need changing? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] masking or routing individual particles in syncgrain~
Hi Ronni, it's not syncgrain, but if you look inside my ParticleChamber abstraction, there is a section for per-grain effects. It is deliberately left empty, but is there for exactly this purpose. http://macumbista.net/?page_id=514 Derek On 12/31/10 9:04 AM, ronni montoya wrote: Hi dear list, i was wondering how can i mask or anulate individual grains from an train generated with syncgrain? I was wondering also if its posible to route an individual grain? Por example if i would like to apply an effect just to a particle and not the whole particle train -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 69: Feed the recording back out of the medium ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a bit OT : beginner's question about mixing
The Buchla analog synthesizers contained filters to separate odd and even harmonics. They were primarily used in the synthesis of different types of instrument timbres rather than filtering acoustic instruments, but perhaps it's worth trying on your own in Pd. http://www.buchla.com/historical/b200/images/296-large.jpeg Best, Derek On 12/25/10 6:47 PM, Achim Bloch wrote: I was wondering if another way to achieve this goal could be to magnify the harmonics in a more « mathematical » manner, let's say, magnifying the bass drum harmonics frequencies if they are even, and the bass guitar ones if they are odd? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 47: Discover the recipes you are using and abandon them ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies
This is a classic example of the ongoing (mis)communication(s) between artists and scientists. In this case, I think Mathieu is confusing the purpose of art with the purpose of a scientific paper. One's aim is to establish and demonstrate facts, the other to explore possibilities and inspire imaginative (and often non-linear) connections. For me, far too much of this art-science stuff errs on the side of technical demonstration. And far too many artists lack the training to engage with the real media of their work and instead hire technicians to realize it for them. The flip side of that coin is that poetry is often unquantifiable (program me something sad says the media artist to their trusty technician) and causes segfaults in engineer-type brains ;-) D. On 12/22/10 9:18 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Matju, I see your point and I won't try to convince you that this work is something you don't believe it to be. However, I believe our disagreement born from a very different viewpoint on the nature of an artistic intervention. Your technical analysis is excellent, but it seems to me it goes over the real scope of the work. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 64: Don't stress one thing more than another ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mailing list
Hmmm nothing about trolling there. Should be. D. On 12/13/10 11:33 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-12-13 11:30, ALAN BROOKER wrote: Hi Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to inappropriate/aggressive comments? nobody moderates the mailing list (this is by intention) and the rules are set out at http://puredata.info/community/lists/Netiquette/ -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 18: Balance the consistency principle with the inconsistency principle ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43
Seems like the power to decide what goes into Pd-extended lies in the same place it does in every other free software project out there: with those willing to do the work. Seems fair to me. D. On 12/13/10 7:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Here are some concrete steps to take on to help with this effort, either as the maintainer of a library, or just where you can help: - add a page to the the downloads page http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/ (this will become http://puredata.info/downloads soon). - add releases to the download page - improving documentation - making a Debian package - taking a pure:dyne package and getting it ready for submission to Debian - test releases - update the code in the Pd-extended release branch, once that is in place There is some developing documentation here, its not cast in stone yet: http://puredata.info/docs/AddingYourProjectToDownloads http://puredata.info/docs/LibrariesInPdExtended http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingIntoPdextended There is a library template too. People aren't required to use this, but it makes things a lot easier IMHO: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate .hc -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 198: Instead of changing the thing, change the world around it. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
I had two very disappointed workshoppers last week trying to get [playlist] for windows. AFAIK it used to work pre-PDx many years ago, maybe that was when a windows DLL was still available. D. On 12/11/10 9:28 PM, João Pais wrote: i will check again but the last time i used cooled~ or playlist~ they did not work cross platform -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 43: Destroy nothing; Destroy the most important thing ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
You probably mean [grid], another of Degoyon's objects from the unauthorized lib. This means it could have the same potential problems for inclusion in PDx as PiDiP. Another problem with this lib is the lack of Windows binaries in PDx, I've run into this issue at workshops before. Obviously I am not fascist enough to ban windows from my workshops! ;-) Best, D. On 12/9/10 3:33 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Now, the moment I'm testing this and yours Jack, I like plot, but remember the grid view, I have seen in the help or the site of Pd. In work, the grid blue and red dots. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 120: Move towards the unimportant ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
What is there exactly in PiDiP that people need so badly? The (IMHO ugly) video filters from EffecTV? Or the streaming part? In either case, the solution seems simple to me. PDP itself isn't really being maintained AFAIK, and isn't completely cross-platform anyways, so why not just implement what is needed from PiDiP in GEM? If there is a (willfully) stubborn stone in the river, just fork and move around it! And one less reason to put up with a certain person's temper-tantrums later... D. On 12/7/10 1:56 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Currently pidip is in a state where the two licenses conflict irreconcilably. So if you use pidip under Yves' license, you could be sued by the EffecTV copyright holder. Or if you use it under the GPL from EffecTV, you could be sued by the PiDiP copyright holder. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 131: Question the heroic approach ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gEM scREEN Question
Use the offset message to send the gemwin to the second screen. You just have to know where the second screen is in relation to the first (to the right, above, below, etc) and offset the dimensions of the first screen. D. On 12/7/10 10:33 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hi list, I am more active than usual, a question: when we use the dimen message can determine the dimensions of our GEM screen, when using border 0 is possible to eliminate the edge or tab GEM, but we can not move that window, for example, we cant move to a projector ... it is possible? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 204: What do you do? Now, what do you do best?' ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
Motion tracking can be done easily in GEM with a combination of [pix-background] to create a histrogram showing only changed pixel values, and [pix_blob] to track the center of gravity of those changed values. D. On 12/7/10 6:43 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: I don't quite understand why people do motion detection with squares like that. I use a generic motion detection that gets me the centre of the motion, and then when I rescale the values, it may split the possible results into bands or squares because of rounding (if I quantise them). Hi all!, what is the generic motion detector you are using Mathieu? I use pdp... Best Regards José 2010/12/7 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca mailto:ma...@artengine.ca: On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Pagano, Patrick wrote: pdp_mgrid I don't quite understand why people do motion detection with squares like that. I use a generic motion detection that gets me the centre of the motion, and then when I rescale the values, it may split the possible results into bands or squares because of rounding (if I quantise them). Nevertheless, if I have a picture of size (240 320 3), I can make groups of rows and columns, for example I [#redim (15 16 20 16 3)], which turns a picture into a 5-dimensional grid, and then if I [#transpose 1 2], I will have a 5-dimensional grid that is a 2-dimensional grid of 16x16 icons. After that, many effects and analyses that GF can do on pictures will also work on such groups of pictures without any change. But more simply, if I want an average of each 16x16 icon, I don't need to go 5-dimensional, I can just do [#downscale_by 16 smoothly] and that's all. pdp_cmap pdp_ctrack pdp_ascii are essential I'd like to know what it takes for you to call something «essential». Do you mean that there is no other way to do it with Pd, or just no other way to do with with PDP ? pdp_qt will be obsolete when we get either pix_film OR pix_movie or whatever to play audio directly from a movie without extra table banging [hopefully this exists somewhere] There's [#in~], which is rather experimental. It uses [#to~]. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 207: Take away as much mystery as possible. What is left? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] motion tracking in GEM (WAS) new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian
See attached path by Ben Bogart. D. On 12/7/10 11:32 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: Motion tracking can be done easily in GEM with a combination of [pix-background] to create a histrogram showing only changed pixel values, and [pix_blob] to track the center of gravity of those changed values. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 27: Change instrument roles #N canvas 75 71 1007 721 10; #X obj 277 131 pix_grey; #X msg 302 159 reset; #X obj 277 188 pix_background; #X msg 370 167 \$1 \$1 \$1; #X msg 370 132 0.5; #X floatatom 370 151 5 0 0 0 - - -; #N canvas 439 104 589 611 cursor 0; #X obj 19 36 inlet; #X obj 231 32 inlet; #X obj 151 346 translateXYZ; #X text 62 150 0.64; #X text 34 151 1; #X obj 20 63 t f f; #X obj 34 176 -; #X text 59 177 X-Range; #X text 280 176 Y-Range; #X obj 53 215 expr (8/$f1); #X obj 20 215 -; #X obj 38 241 *; #X obj 26 95 max 0; #X obj 68 95 min 10; #X obj 58 131 f; #X obj 30 131 f; #X obj 39 267 - 4; #X text 278 148 0.64; #X text 250 147 1; #X obj 232 60 t f f; #X obj 250 172 -; #X obj 267 215 expr (8/$f1); #X obj 233 215 -; #X obj 251 241 *; #X obj 238 92 max 0; #X obj 280 92 min 10; #X obj 272 128 f; #X obj 246 127 f; #X obj 221 268 expr (-1*$f1)+4; #X obj 436 30 inlet; #X obj 437 61 * 10; #X obj 150 323 gemhead 15; #X obj 357 496 circle 0.1; #X obj 33 410 separator; #X obj 204 410 separator; #X obj 205 496 rectangle 0.2 0.01; #X obj 357 410 separator; #X msg 367 454 draw line; #X obj 367 433 loadbang; #X obj 152 371 colorRGB 1 0 0 1; #X obj 32 495 rectangle 0.01 0.2; #X msg 438 454 width \$1; #X obj 437 398 int; #X obj 438 425 + 1; #X text 433 10 size; #X text 20 13 X-coordinate; #X text 221 11 Y-coordinate; #X text 278 370 color red; #X obj 501 30 inlet on off; #X connect 0 0 5 0; #X connect 1 0 19 0; #X connect 2 0 39 0; #X connect 5 0 10 0; #X connect 5 0 12 0; #X connect 5 1 13 0; #X connect 6 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 11 1; #X connect 10 0 11 0; #X connect 11 0 16 0; #X connect 12 0 15 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 14 0 6 1; #X connect 14 0 10 1; #X connect 14 0 13 1; #X connect 15 0 6 0; #X connect 15 0 12 1; #X connect 16 0 2 1; #X connect 19 0 22 0; #X connect 19 0 24 0; #X connect 19 1 25 0; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 21 0 23 1; #X connect 22 0 23 0; #X connect 23 0 28 0; #X connect 24 0 27 0; #X connect 25 0 26 0; #X connect 26 0 20 1; #X connect 26 0 22 1; #X connect 26 0 25 1; #X connect 27 0 20 0; #X connect 27 0 24 1; #X connect 28 0 2 2; #X connect 29 0 30 0; #X connect 30 0 32 1; #X connect 30 0 42 0; #X connect 31 0 2 0; #X connect 33 0 40 0; #X connect 34 0 35 0; #X connect 36 0 32 0; #X connect 37 0 32 0; #X connect 38 0 37 0; #X connect 39 0 33 0; #X connect 39 0 34 0; #X connect 39 0 36 0; #X connect 41 0 32 0; #X connect 42 0 43 0; #X connect 43 0 41 0; #X connect 48 0 31 0; #X restore 282 510 pd cursor; #X obj 612 110 separator; #X obj 612 131 pix_texture; #X obj 612 152 square 4; #X obj 62 264 pix_texture; #X obj 62 244 alpha; #X obj 62 224 colourRGB 1 1 1 0.65; #X obj 62 284 translateXYZ -2.4 -2.4 0; #X obj 427 49 gemhead 10; #X obj 62 205 spigot; #X obj 99 160 tgl 20 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X obj 427 70 pix_video; #X obj 16 114 gemwin 30; #X msg 24 47 create; #X msg 25 71 destroy; #X obj 19 18 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1 ; #X text 335 440 size; #X text 315 440 Y; #X text 289 439 X; #X text 859 10 by Ben Bogart (b...@ekran.org); #X obj 62 304 square 1.5; #X obj 277 106 separator; #X obj 278 423 pix_blob; #X obj 205 15 loadbang; #X msg 202 34 0; #X obj 426 15 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X msg 33 92 dimen 300 300; #X text 48 16 gem window; #X text 449 13 live input camera [firewire/usb]; #X text 610 224 [pix_background] 'removes' the background of an image by comparing a static image in memory to an incoming video stream. all values withing a given range are turned black. for best effect \, place a camera on a static scene like a blank wall and hit 'reset'. then set the range control to cover any variance in the background. when a new object enters the scene it will be the only thing draw against a black background. use pix_chroma_key or pix_compare to add in images in place of the black.; #X text 611 199 --; #X text 607 85 image of the camera; #X text 608 93 ; #X text 610 392 Inlet 2: float: range (f == f f f); #X text 609 341 Inlet 2: list: range \; in RGBA mode this is +-red +-green +-blue \; in YUV-mode this is +-luma +-Cb +-Cr \; in Gray-mode only the first value is important +-gray; #X text 612 211 Description: separate an object from background; #X text 215 80 motion tracking; #X text 216 88 ---; #X text 34 167 ; #X text 440 171 threshold; #X text 605 446 [pix_blob] will calculate the center-of-gravity of a certain (combination of) channel(s).; #X text 604 434 --; #X text 607 476 You can choose the combination of channels used for the calculation by changing the mode
Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian
I read somewhere they used the Pd test-tone patch to torture inmates at Guantanamo Bay. Doesn't that suck? We certainly wouldn't want a license which allows that kind of thing to happen, would we? D. On 12/4/10 9:25 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Well, I hope they are all joking. I believe SourceForge also only allows code with free licenses, so code with such restrictions would not be allowed on SourceForge. But I could be wrong there. .hc On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote: I don't get all this discussion... why not just stick with plain GPL? That's why Google Code restricted the possible licenses to choose... -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 116: Make an exhaustive list of everything you might do and do the last thing on the list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] crashes when using multiple outputs
Make sure the number of input and output channel match in the preferences. Pd doesn't seem to like mismatched numbers there. D. On 12/3/10 7:13 AM, Ben Carney wrote: Hello all, this message comes from a friend and collaborator. I would lend a hand to him in person, but he is on the other side of the Atlantic ocean. [ I recently acquired an 8 channels Echo audio fire pre8 audio interface, and I'm using it with Pure Data. However Pure Data, though it recognizes the interface, does not let me specify more than 2 channels, when I type 8, PD freezes. Any suggestions? Or perhaps you've encountered similar issues and were able to resolve them? ] I believe he is running a pretty standard install of windows XP. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 189: You are an engineer ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Undervine, data viz + sonification at SFMOMA
It must be so hard to be so angry about so many things so often... On 12/3/10 11:23 AM, ALAN BROOKER wrote: ok, are you two friends now then? ;) On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:18 AM, ydego...@gmail.com mailto:ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com mailto:ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ok, it's proved now you're my old nationalist friend 'new world'? with imported old mentality within.. it's just too funny you post this here now.. apart from that, i don't care of your commercials... ciao, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Working again with Bobby Pietrusko and Stewart Smith, I created sonification for visualization of data about the global wine industry. It opened recently at SFMOMA in San Francisco. You can see a little snippet here: http://at.or.at/hans/undervine/ And here's a chunk from a scene that didn't make the final cut be we like anyway: http://at.or.at/hans/blog/2010/11/21/highlighting-data-with-sound/ Wine is a potent force in contemporary life, perhaps the only comestible to produce its own visual culture. How Wine Became Modern, the first exhibition of its kind, looks at the world of wine and the role that architecture, design, and media have played in its stunning transformation over the past three decades. Developed in collaboration with the New York architecture studio Diller Scofidio + Renfro, the exhibition features historical artifacts, architectural models, multimedia installations, newly commissioned artworks, and even a smell wall to provide a richly textured experience in the galleries. Come discover how important cultural preoccupations of our day, such as the meaning of place and authenticity in our increasingly global and virtual world, play out at this uniquely fertile intersection of nature and culture. At once a nuanced investigation and a vivid sensory and aesthetic experience, this exhibition presents wine as you've never seen it before. November 20, 2010 - April 17, 2011 http://www.sfmoma.org/exhibitions/406 http://www.sfmoma.org/press/releases/exhibitions/829 ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at mailto:pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 4: Abandon desire ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian
From now on I refuse to allow my code to be used in anything that sucks. D. On 12/3/10 5:51 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: pidip and unauthorized are now published with a non-standard license that says : * any project that promotes : racism, nationalism, xenophobia, sexism, homophobia, religious hatred or missionarism .. ( expandable list) «Nationalism» is a broad word : if one makes an artwork related to cultural self-determination, isn't it not what you had in mind at all, and yet, don't people use the same word to mean it ? Can you make the text more precise to reflect that fact ? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 34: Consider different fading systems ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: asimuth in speaker
Hi Ronnie, you would need a Mid/Side recorded audio file, I'm sure the trick doesn't work with normal stereo. But no I don't have a patch. Normal M/S uses M and S instead of L and R. The S track gets panned left, and then an identical version gets panned right and inverted in phase, in Pd this would be [*~ -1]. Then use a samplewise delay on the M track, which is panned center (i.e. [*~ 0.5] sent to both left and right after the [z~]). To a point, the longer the delay in samples, the higher the Mid track seems elevated. There could be plugins to convert normal stereo to M/S. I recall seeing such a thing in my Ardour plugins, so it probably came form one LADSPA lib. Best! Derek On 12/2/10 3:38 AM, ronni montoya wrote: Hi Derek this sounds very interesting, is there an example patch of this trick to share? thanks 2010/12/1 Derek Holzerde...@umatic.nl: I've created the psychoacoustic effect of azimuth with Mid-Side recordings on stereo speakers before. Use traditional M/S panning: Mid = Center, L = + Side, Right = - Side, and add a samplewise delay to the Mid channel to elevate it in the sound field. I've never seen this trick discussed, but then again I'm not reading a lot of academic literature either. D. On 12/1/10 10:34 AM, ronni montoya wrote: Hello, i was wondering if its possible to perceive azimuth with 2 speakers? Ive tried earplug but it just work with headphones, is it possible to create azimuth with speakers? If yes is there any library or object for this in pd? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 24: Bridges -build -burn ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 152: Tape your mouth ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: asimuth in speaker
I've created the psychoacoustic effect of azimuth with Mid-Side recordings on stereo speakers before. Use traditional M/S panning: Mid = Center, L = + Side, Right = - Side, and add a samplewise delay to the Mid channel to elevate it in the sound field. I've never seen this trick discussed, but then again I'm not reading a lot of academic literature either. D. On 12/1/10 10:34 AM, ronni montoya wrote: Hello, i was wondering if its possible to perceive azimuth with 2 speakers? Ive tried earplug but it just work with headphones, is it possible to create azimuth with speakers? If yes is there any library or object for this in pd? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 24: Bridges -build -burn ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] join my at LinkedIn
I imagine there is a big button that says Invite all your friends and colleagues, and when you click it, then LinkedIn imports your address book and starts working. Not something a warning would fix, as it only happens once. I would say block any emails coming from the linkedin.com domain. AFAIK no one uses it as an actual email service. That would fix the issue. How do emails from unsubscribed addresses end up on the list anyways? Derek On 11/30/10 10:22 AM, Max wrote: Am 30.11.2010 um 10:09 schrieb Lorenzo Sutton: Maybe 1st warning + ban, so that if in some way or another it is happening without the person knowing they get a chance to investigate? i'm sure IOhannes has much better things to do then manually issuing warnings. The invitations are sent bymem...@linkedin.com, just the reply-to adress is a subscribed one. how do they get to the mailinglist anyway? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 193: [blank card] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] join my at LinkedIn
I think a ban for those that start religious or political flamewars would be far more appropriate ;-) D. On 11/30/10 11:46 AM, Andy Farnell wrote: Of course. Mistakes by regulars. And whenever calling for harsh measures irony has in store that the next to transgress is yourself. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 100: It is quite possible ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] big soundfiles
That's a nice theoretical explanation Mathieu (no sarcasm intended), but let's think practical for a second. If you were going to give some simple advice to Pd newcomers about the length of a soundfile they should load to be read by [tabread4~] without noticeable distortions, what would it be? Please no what do you consider noticeable discussions, let's just think friendly suggestion ;-) D. On 11/27/10 7:40 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Derek Holzer wrote: So what could the max size of a file be without losing any detail with [tabread4~]? There is no such thing... It's completely relative to the amount of detail you want to have. If you want a million points between sample 1 and sample 2 you can have them, but if you go between 100 and 101 you already can't have that anymore. If you want to be able to use sixteenths of samples, you can up to sample 1048576, but after that it's only eights, until the double of that size, etc. [tabread4~] is made to read between the samples, but there's no standard on how many points between the samples one might want... it depends on what you decide to do with the data, and the maximum error you can tolerate in that situation. Is that the hardcoded 400 elements limitation? I think that it's just so that you don't load something too big, for the typical amounts of RAM that people had back when [soundfiler] was written. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard - Aix-en-Provence -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 132: 'Remember .those quiet evenings' ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] big soundfiles
Thank you Roman, this is exactly the kind of concise and clear information I was looking for to include in the chapters on sample playback in the Pd FLOSS Manual! Best, Derek On 11/27/10 12:02 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: When playing a table at Pd's native rate, you can play tables error-free with up to 16777215 samples. At 44.1kHz, this would translate to ~6min20s length in time. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 110: Lowest common denominator ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] big soundfiles
So what could the max size of a file be without losing any detail with [tabread4~]? Is that the hardcoded 400 elements limitation? D. On 11/25/10 1:52 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Derek Holzer wrote: And keep in mind that sound quality goes down as file size goes up. This is because of the interpolation. You might do better cutting your file up and putting it into several different arrays. If you play at normal speed with [tabread~] (not 4), you hit that problem anyway at index 16777216, and it's not because of any interpolation. However, if you do use [tabread4~] with fractional floats, you hit the problem at much lower indices, because fractions disappear gradually first, then odd numbers disappear, etc. Overall, it's because for a float, the numerator has to be between 8388608 and 16777215, while the denominator (or the multiplier) is a power of two... so each time you cross a new power of two, you lose half of the details, as the tiniest steps double in size. -- Derek Holzer http://www.umatic.nl http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] big soundfiles
Yes please! D. On 11/25/10 1:57 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Derek Holzer wrote: And keep in mind that sound quality goes down as file size goes up. This is because of the interpolation. You might do better cutting your file up and putting it into several different arrays. Oh, and isn't it the case that [tabread~] 0.42 has an extra inlet for the purpose of getting more precision ? The read point is now relative to a message-rate setting. If you have to play a very large file in RAM, you can do it by emptying your signal-rate counter into a message-rate counter that takes care of the big digits while the signal-rate counter keeps on taking care of the small digits and fractions. (do you want an example ?) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard - Aix-en-Provence -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 189: You are an engineer ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] big soundfiles [interpolation]
Hi Ronni, like I said, it has to do with interpolation. I'm working on a chapter for the Pd FLOSS Manual about soundfiles now, but here is the short version... math gurus on the list please correct me if I am wrong since this will likely end up in that chapter! When you play back the samples in the array at the same rate that they were recorded, then Pd doesn't have a lot of work to do since it just reads back the values. However, when you play them back at a different rate, for example by reading a 44.1K sample at 48K, then Pd often has to interpolate (i.e. guess the missing values in between the samples) in order to create the audio. That is what the 4 in [tabread4~] means: 4 point interpolation which uses the 4 nearest values to calculate any value which might fall in between two samples. Super-geek explanation by Miller here: http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/v0.11/book-html/node31.html Here is the part where I know the answer but not the explanation, however... but the larger the soundfile you load into an array, the lower the quality of the interpolation. Can someone fill *me* in on this so I can write intelligently about it in the FLOSS Manual? Best, Derek On 11/24/10 2:57 AM, ronni montoya wrote: hi derek , can you explain me why does sound qualit goes own as file size goes up? Is that something particular in pd? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 117: Make it more sensual ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] big soundfiles [interpolation]
Yes, it was the second point that I couldn't articulate. Thanks! D. On 11/24/10 1:56 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 11:28 +0100, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi Ronni, like I said, it has to do with interpolation. I'm working on a chapter for the Pd FLOSS Manual about soundfiles now, but here is the short version... math gurus on the list please correct me if I am wrong since this will likely end up in that chapter! When you play back the samples in the array at the same rate that they were recorded, then Pd doesn't have a lot of work to do since it just reads back the values. However, when you play them back at a different rate, for example by reading a 44.1K sample at 48K, then Pd often has to interpolate (i.e. guess the missing values in between the samples) in order to create the audio. That is what the 4 in [tabread4~] means: 4 point interpolation which uses the 4 nearest values to calculate any value which might fall in between two samples. Super-geek explanation by Miller here: http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/v0.11/book-html/node31.html Here is the part where I know the answer but not the explanation, however... but the larger the soundfile you load into an array, the lower the quality of the interpolation. Can someone fill *me* in on this so I can write intelligently about it in the FLOSS Manual? I guess, you bring in two different problems here. First problem: You want to know the value of a signal at an exact point in time s(t), but you only have values stored for the nearby samples s(n) and s(n+1). Depending on the algorithm used, you can calculate a more or less accurate value for s(t) by taking into account the nearby points and assume a certain path for the curve going trough all points. This problem applies also to small tables (not only big ones). If you're playing a sample at the native rate of Pd, s(t) is always matching s(n) and no interpolation error is introduced, as you already stated. The second problem is: You can't even express the exact point in time, when the t in s(t) is a very huge number, because t is expressed as a 32-bit floating point number. Please someone correct me, if wrong, but above a certain value (2^24-1=16777215, I guess) you cannot even represent every integer with the 32-bit floating point format used by Pd. So, even when playing a sample with Pd's own samplerate, it only works nice up to a certain table size. When you play samples 'behind' that magic number, every second sample is played for the time of two samples. If you play a sample at a different speed than Pd's rate, the error starts much earlier and increases over time. This is because the higher the number is to index a certain sample, the less values between two sub-sequent integers are available, so the difference between the value you meant and the value that can be represented might increase. Check also this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-09/053463.html I hope, I didn't cause more confusion. Roman -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 54: Do something sudden, destructive and unpredictable ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Simple Subtractive Synth
Hi Samuel, probably the bandlimited oscillator BLOSC objects in the creb library, or the spliced-transition method found in the Pd help files or Miller's book would be the best things, however I have also included a chapter in the FLOSS Manual on using the sinsum message to create rudimentary waveforms: http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/GeneratingWaveforms They are bandlimited, however they still alias at higher frequencies. Combining them with oversampling could also be an interesting idea: http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/Antialiasing Best! Derek On 11/24/10 4:50 PM, samuel rowe wrote: band-limited waveforms (using fourier synthesis, then writing this into a table) -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 111: Lowest common denominator check -single beat -single note -single riff ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] big soundfiles
Check the replies. I have definitely noticed longer soundfiles having lower quality when designing ParticleChamber, for example. Newer versions of this (unreleased so far, too many bugs...) allowed pitch shifting, which is where I noticed the artifacts. Longer soundfiles started to sound more grainy than shorter ones when played back in whole or in part at other-than-recorded sample rates. D. On 11/24/10 11:54 PM, João Pais wrote: didn't know about that, which interpolation are you speaking about? in the table everything should be correct, right? do you have any precise description of that problem? And keep in mind that sound quality goes down as file size goes up. This is because of the interpolation. You might do better cutting your file up and putting it into several different arrays. D. On 11/23/10 4:16 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Check the help patch for soundfiler, you'll need to use the -maxsize flag in your [read( message and set it to something bigger. .hc On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:24 PM, ronni montoya wrote: hello, when i load a big .wav file with sounfiler i get this message: soundfiler_read: truncated to 400 elements ? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 159: Tidy up ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] big soundfiles
And keep in mind that sound quality goes down as file size goes up. This is because of the interpolation. You might do better cutting your file up and putting it into several different arrays. D. On 11/23/10 4:16 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Check the help patch for soundfiler, you'll need to use the -maxsize flag in your [read( message and set it to something bigger. .hc On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:24 PM, ronni montoya wrote: hello, when i load a big .wav file with sounfiler i get this message: soundfiler_read: truncated to 400 elements ? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 132: 'Remember .those quiet evenings' ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Strange behavior between [phasor~] and [creb/blosc~]
Did you try graphing the output of the combined [phasor~] objects? To me, it seems likely that the lack of a zero-crossing in the [phasor~] waveform would create a large amount of DC offset, and perhaps that is what you are hearing. [creb/blosc~], [osc~] and pretty much any other audio waveform generator all have mostly equal amounts of positive and negative energy in their waveforms. Only [phasor~] is the weird exception and wasn't even designed to be used as signal source anyways. I'm quite sure it was mainly intended for use in driving [tabread~] objects. D. On 11/23/10 2:40 PM, Ingo wrote: Do subpatches with several [phasor~] used as a audiosignals produce a different result as intended without summing up in total over 1. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 113: Make a blank valuable by putting it in an exquisite frame ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Strange behavior between [phasor~] and [creb/blosc~]
Have a look here: http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/DCOffset My basic formula is [*~ 2] | [-~ 1] Best! D. On 11/23/10 3:18 PM, Ingo wrote: Hi Derek, that's it !!! I just subtracted 0.5 from the [phasor~] outlet and now it behaves as expected. Thank you! Now I have to find all the [phasor~] objects in my patches und change it there. Using [blosc~] is just too expensive for simply producing some slight dirt modulations. Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von Derek Holzer Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2010 14:49 An: pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] Strange behavior between [phasor~] and [creb/blosc~] Did you try graphing the output of the combined [phasor~] objects? To me, it seems likely that the lack of a zero-crossing in the [phasor~] waveform would create a large amount of DC offset, and perhaps that is what you are hearing. [creb/blosc~], [osc~] and pretty much any other audio waveform generator all have mostly equal amounts of positive and negative energy in their waveforms. Only [phasor~] is the weird exception and wasn't even designed to be used as signal source anyways. I'm quite sure it was mainly intended for use in driving [tabread~] objects. D. On 11/23/10 2:40 PM, Ingo wrote: Do subpatches with several [phasor~] used as a audiosignals produce a different result as intended without summing up in total over 1. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 113: Make a blank valuable by putting it in an exquisite frame ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 101: It is simply a matter of work ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] settings on Ubuntu
Hi Ivica, list... it turns out both of them had vanilla Pd installed. They downloaded extended packages and installed them and everything went fine from there. Thx+best, Derek On 11/14/10 5:43 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Not sure if this may help but on L2Ork's site we maintain default.pdsettings file which commonly goes to /usr/lib/pd/ folder (or pd-extended folder with newest releases of pd-extended where it may have to be renamed to default.pdextended--we are currently in the process of syncing our version with vanilla pd-extended). FWIW, you may also want to try out our version of pd-extended--the install documentation is kind of spotty right now as we are in the process of overhauling that part but it should simply boil down to installing manually pd-extended from source *over* the dpkg install. http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56 -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 89: Imagine the piece as a set of disconnected events ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] settings on Ubuntu
Hi all, two of my students at a workshop today had the same problem. They installed Pd-ext from their package manager, but they have no preferences file thus no externals loaded, paths or anything. I scanned HC's page, the puredata.info FAQ and the list and didn't find anything about this. Did they forget/not know to do something or is this an error on the package manager's part? What should I do to fix their problem? D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 202: Back up a few steps. What else could you have done? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Plugin~ arguments?
Check: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/UsingLADSPAplugins It's very rough, any help making it better would be appreciated! D. On 11/13/10 3:56 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use plugin~ for the first time and I'm stuck with the arguments. I wanted to try one of Steve Harris' plugins, tapeDelay. The plugin object loads it fine, and i get a bunch of control arguments when i send info to it. plugin~: constructed plugin Tape Delay Simulation successfully plugin~: plugin ports: audio 1/1 ctrl 10/0 plugin~: plugin active print: port in control Tape speed (inches/sec\\, 1=normal) 0 10 print: port in control Dry level (dB) -90 0 print: port in control Tap 1 distance (inches) 0 4 print: port in control Tap 1 level (dB) -90 0 print: port in control Tap 2 distance (inches) 0 4 print: port in control Tap 2 level (dB) -90 0 print: port in control Tap 3 distance (inches) 0 4 print: port in control Tap 3 level (dB) -90 0 print: port in control Tap 4 distance (inches) 0 4 print: port in control Tap 4 level (dB) -90 0 How do i control Tap 1 distance and Tap 1 level, for instance? More generally, I'm wondering if there is a rule to sort of translate the control arguments one gets in the console into the ones that are supposed to be used in messages. Cheers! Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 170: Use something nearby as a model ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Shifter~ Object for Linux?
You could use [plugin~], in which case there is the am_pitchshft in the SWH plugins lib. Worked well for me as a LADSPA plugin in Arodur in the past, haven't tried it with [plugin~] in Pd. D. On 11/3/10 10:22 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all, A few months ago I posted a message about a pitch shifter and someone pointed me to the shifter~ object ported to Pd by Julian Villeguas (http://julovi.net/j/?page_id=7). Unfortunately the makefile wasn't written for Linux. Is there a way i can compile it to run in Fedora? Thanks! -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 167: Use cliches ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Shifter~ Object for Linux?
[plugin~] works fine when given the proper creation arguments. That said, the creation arguments in the official help file may not be the correct ones for you! There was a few threads, one in the last year, about getting [plugin~] to work. You might check those. Best! D. On 11/3/10 1:00 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Plugin~ has never worked on my laptop. It crashes Pd. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 20: Be extravagant ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd
A huge part of the old dub sound is the saturation of the delay lines, usually with some filters to carve up the echo as you suggest, Felix. But one problem in Pd is that delay lines and filters tend to blow up instead of saturate like the old school gear. One of my biggest problem patches was a recirculating delay line with a high pass filter. Inevitably, it would die, killing the DSP chain with NaN output. Only way to get rid of it was to cut and paste the offending filter and delay line. I suppose someone could come up with some DSP wizardry to emulate that analog saturation. But I have been getting a strange kick out of all these how do I imitate threads... How do I imitate the sound of a very long tube? How can I waveshape the sound of an overdriven speaker? Where can I download a physical model of the sound of water? What kind of algorithms produce the sound of a Slinky going down stairs (alone or in pairs)? Is it really so difficult to use the real thing itself? (Of the above examples, the Slinky might be the most difficult thing to locate in one's studio...) *Must* everything be emulated in this imaginary, digital world? Ahem... I'll go have my coffee now. D. On 10/29/10 1:41 AM, Felix Obée wrote: i recall one simple way to create that effect was to use a delay as send effect and then route its output to one channel of the mixer where you could then apply the send effect, creating a loop. the delay then could go on almost forever, and be manipulated using the eq of the channel. i spent quite some time (and dope) with this back then ;-) -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 39: Cut a vital connection ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Clearing and Copying an array
Hi Raffael, Keep in mind that copying between arrays at faster than audio speed may give the same kind of glitches you get when you use [soundfiler] to load audio into an array. For this reason I wouldn't recommend it during a live performance. My recommendation would be to either use several arrays which you can switch between, or make one long array and switch between active zones in the array for different loops. STEIM's LiSa live-sampling program takes the second approach, by the way... Best! Derek On 10/27/10 10:49 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-10-27 10:22, Raffael Seyfried wrote: Hi, I have some problems with a live looper patch I am building for my band. My question is: Is it possible to copy the content of an array into another array (or reset all entries to zero) directly by using messages? If so what messages? resetting to 0 can be done by sending the const 0 message to the array. copying the array cannot be done directly, you could either use: a) pd-vanilla | [t f f ] | | [tabread from] | | | [tabwrite to ] b) zexy's [tabdump] [bang( | [tabdump from] | [list prepend set 0] | [list trim] | [s to] c) iem_tab's [tab_copy] mfgasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 138: Retrace your steps ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Clearing and Copying an array
From experience, I can say that [tab_copy] and [tabdump] do cause problems when moving audio files around during performance. Whether that is justified by a theoretical explanation or not D. On 10/27/10 4:01 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, Derek Holzer wrote: Keep in mind that copying between arrays at faster than audio speed may give the same kind of glitches you get when you use [soundfiler] to load audio into an array. For this reason I wouldn't recommend it during a live performance. It's not precisely the same situation, because you don't have to wait for the hard disk. RAM-to-RAM copying is usually a thousand times faster than that, or better. So, you won't encounter problems at the same size of array than for [soundfiler], and the size won't even be anything close to similar. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 161: Trust in the you of now ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Berlin Workshops Nov+Dec at NK
?Ich bin ein Objekt?: Learning Pure Data as a Language DATES: 13-14 November 2010 12:00-17:00 COST: EUR 35 LOCATION: NK, Elsenstr. 52/2.Hinterhaus Etage 2 12059 Berlin Neukölln Pure Data (or Pd) is a real-time graphical programming environment for audio, video, and graphical processing. This introductory workshop is ideal for new users of Pure Data who are finding the ?vocabulary? and ?grammar? difficult to grasp. We will learn Pure Data as one would learn any other language, taking a series of very basic examples from the Pure Data FLOSS Manual. This workshop gives a good starting point for more advanced Pd workshops, or participation in the Berlin Pure Data users? group. The workshop will be taught in English ;-) Participation is limited to 12 participants. Registration: Pre-registration is required and can be done by sending an email to i...@nkprojekt.de Links: http://puredata.info http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata http://puredata.info/community/organization/pd-berlin/pd-berlin-users-group *** Neanderthal Electronics at your Fingertips DATES: 27-28 November 12:00-17:00 / Presentation 28 November 18:00 COST: EUR 35 + EUR 10 materials fee LOCATION: NK, Elsenstr. 52/2.Hinterhaus Etage 2 12059 Berlin Neukölln Learn how to use simple objects from our modern environment (resistors, capacitors, transistors, LEDs, integrated circuit chips?) to design and build your own personal, touch-activated primitive noise synthesizer. Each is a tiny world of its own, using primitive analog computers in combination with feedback, sensors and audio inputs to create a unique sound. Even from the same plan, no two are alike! Participants should bring some sort of box, container or other creative enclosure to put their circuit inside of?past workshops have seen synthesizers made in suitcases, flashlights, film cans, coconuts, children?s toys, super 8 cameras, cigar boxes, knaackebrod, books and hand-sewn masks. Check the videos on the Macumbista website for some ideas and inspiration. This workshop will end in a free public presentation of the instruments you have created, invite your friends! Participation is limited to 12 participants. Registration: Pre-registration is required and can be done by sending an email to i...@nkprojekt.de Links: http://macumbista.net/?page_id=497 *** Now Splice the Tape: Working with Soundfiles in Pure Data DATES: 04-05 December 12:00-17:00 / Presentation 05 December 18:00 COST: EUR 35 LOCATION: NK, Elsenstr. 52/2.Hinterhaus Etage 2 12059 Berlin Neukölln Manipulating recorded soundfiles is one of Pure Data?s most powerful features. However, the process of doing this remains one of the most confusing tasks for newcomers. During this two day workshop, we will cover the basics of loading soundfiles to tables, live capturing and looping, adjusting tempo and pitch, changing the looping, starting and stopping points of your playback and an introduction to granular synthesis. We will also examine ParticleChamber as an example of a full-fledged soundfile manipulation application built entirely with Pd. Some previous experience with Pd and/or participation in the ?Ich bin ein Objekt? workshop is recommended. This workshop will end in a free public presentation of the instruments you have created, invite your friends! Participation is limited to 12 participants. Registration: Pre-registration is required and can be done by sending an email to i...@nkprojekt.de Links: http://puredata.info http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata http://macumbista.net/?page_id=514 (ParticleChamber) *** About the Instructor: Derek Holzer (1972) is an American sound artist living in Berlin, whose current interests include DIY analog electronics, sound art, field recording and the meeting points of electroacoustic, noise, improv and extreme music. He has played live experimental sound, as well as taught workshops in noise art technology, across Europe, North America, Brazil and New Zealand. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 125: Only a part, not the whole ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vector based panning
VBAP is in Extended or find it here: http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/software/vbap/Pure_Data/ D. On 9/21/10 6:38 AM, ronni montoya wrote: hello, i was wondering if there are some vector based panning in pd? maybe there are some abstractions or externals? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 197: List the qualities it has. List those you'd like. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [readanysf~] refuse 96kbps ogg's!?!
But please don't post them directly to the list ;-) Use links. D. On 9/21/10 5:33 PM, august wrote: Please post any files that do not work so that I may test them. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 69: Feed the recording back out of the medium ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00
Suggestion: decide the agenda for the next meeting at the meetings themselves, and have people volunteer to present things. Maybe too North American or Northern European a style? ;-) Nobody says you should volunteer yourself, but also I think people come when they have an idea of the program and whether it is interesting for them or not. No theme at all could in fact equal no interest at all. And if no one volunteers, perhaps curate something... D. On 9/16/10 1:24 PM, João Pais wrote: that is true, the thing is there is no boss in this group (I don't want to say what the people are going to do). so, there is no agenda really. or anyone has something that he wants to show? I prefer the format where people discuss than the one that one lectures, and the others listen (which is suggested by having a fixed program). not to say that someone might think theme ? I know already enough about it, won't go this time. I also don't have the time to be preparing materials and making a pd class out of this (for that people can ask me or Servando for a workshop). that's why that for now I prefer the anarquic treatment, where everyone is equal. I have to agree with M here, posting an agenda or at least a fresh list of topics might encourage [more] people to come. D. On 9/14/10 7:47 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, João Pais wrote: What's the programme for this particular meeting ? no programme so far, most likely the usual show-and-tell of patches, answering questions... You only need to make a list of patches in advance for the show-and-tell, that's all. Just have everybody write one or two sentences per patch that will be shown. It's not very hard to do. It doesn't prevent you from improvising things that are not on the schedule... -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 44: Discard an axiom ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00
I have to agree with M here, posting an agenda or at least a fresh list of topics might encourage [more] people to come. D. On 9/14/10 7:47 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, João Pais wrote: What's the programme for this particular meeting ? no programme so far, most likely the usual show-and-tell of patches, answering questions... You only need to make a list of patches in advance for the show-and-tell, that's all. Just have everybody write one or two sentences per patch that will be shown. It's not very hard to do. It doesn't prevent you from improvising things that are not on the schedule... -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 81: Go to an extreme, move back to a more comfortable place ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: Ir leds
You probably want the brightest ones (usually measured in in mcd) you can get! Besides that, if you know anything about the camera you are using that would help a lot, for example which part of the spectrum in nanometers it is most sensitive to. Then you can match it to the spectrum emitted by the LEDs. Another characteristic is the angle of the LED, in your case you probably want them to be pretty wide. Some LEDs are low current or ultrabright, which mean they are better at making light from current. Ultrabrights, however use a ton of current at their brightest. This is usually only a concern if you are running from a battery or very weak power supply (or in something like a voltage controlled synthesizer when a sudden big current draw can have audible consequences!). So once you understand the characteristics of the LEDs, you can choose the ones for your budget. You'll still have to do a lot of testing to get the right amount of light for the space and your camera. It's always of a question of whether you have more money than time, or time than money. Somehow I seem to have neither these days, I wonder what I'm doing wrong! ;-) Best, Derek On 8/30/10 4:44 AM, ronni montoya wrote: Hello everybody, i dont know if here is the correct place to ask, if anybody know another forum related to this , i will be very happy if somebody can show me: Im making an interactive floor and i need to iluminate a space of 4 x 4 meters with ir light. I been seen there are some ir leds matrix on survillance stores but they are expensive to my budget, so i was thinking that i can build my own ir led matrix . I been seen there are tons of different types of ir leds with different characteristics. Do anybody know which ir leds do i need for this? which model, label or serial number? Any idea would be appreaciated thank you very much Ronny ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 183: When is it for? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd at Gentoo
Or do you mean this? http://pd-overlay.sourceforge.net/ Are you sure you have set it up correctly? I've never used it myself, though. Maybe someone else has. D. On 8/29/10 1:02 AM, alexandros wrote: Hello! I would like to install pd on my Gentoo Linux. I have installed the overlay, but emerge does not find anything like pd, pure-data, puredata. Could please somebody help? My architecture is amd64. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 12: Always give yourself credit for having more than personality ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] multiblob without luminosity
You want [pix_background]. Please see attached patch, originally by Ben Bogart. D. On 8/28/10 7:07 AM, ronni montoya wrote: Hello pd list. I would like to know if its possible or if there is a way to have something like the pix_multiblob object but not based on luminosity but instead on background substraction. I been seen that with opencv it is possible to track blobs based on backgound substraction instead of luminosity. How can i achieve this in puredata? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 78: Go outside. Shut the door. #N canvas 75 71 1007 721 10; #X obj 277 131 pix_grey; #X msg 302 159 reset; #X obj 277 188 pix_background; #X msg 370 167 \$1 \$1 \$1; #X msg 370 132 0.5; #X floatatom 370 151 5 0 0 0 - - -; #N canvas 439 104 589 611 cursor 0; #X obj 19 36 inlet; #X obj 231 32 inlet; #X obj 151 346 translateXYZ; #X text 62 150 0.64; #X text 34 151 1; #X obj 20 63 t f f; #X obj 34 176 -; #X text 59 177 X-Range; #X text 280 176 Y-Range; #X obj 53 215 expr (8/$f1); #X obj 20 215 -; #X obj 38 241 *; #X obj 26 95 max 0; #X obj 68 95 min 10; #X obj 58 131 f; #X obj 30 131 f; #X obj 39 267 - 4; #X text 278 148 0.64; #X text 250 147 1; #X obj 232 60 t f f; #X obj 250 172 -; #X obj 267 215 expr (8/$f1); #X obj 233 215 -; #X obj 251 241 *; #X obj 238 92 max 0; #X obj 280 92 min 10; #X obj 272 128 f; #X obj 246 127 f; #X obj 221 268 expr (-1*$f1)+4; #X obj 436 30 inlet; #X obj 437 61 * 10; #X obj 150 323 gemhead 15; #X obj 357 496 circle 0.1; #X obj 33 410 separator; #X obj 204 410 separator; #X obj 205 496 rectangle 0.2 0.01; #X obj 357 410 separator; #X msg 367 454 draw line; #X obj 367 433 loadbang; #X obj 152 371 colorRGB 1 0 0 1; #X obj 32 495 rectangle 0.01 0.2; #X msg 438 454 width \$1; #X obj 437 398 int; #X obj 438 425 + 1; #X text 433 10 size; #X text 20 13 X-coordinate; #X text 221 11 Y-coordinate; #X text 278 370 color red; #X obj 501 30 inlet on off; #X connect 0 0 5 0; #X connect 1 0 19 0; #X connect 2 0 39 0; #X connect 5 0 10 0; #X connect 5 0 12 0; #X connect 5 1 13 0; #X connect 6 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 11 1; #X connect 10 0 11 0; #X connect 11 0 16 0; #X connect 12 0 15 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 14 0 6 1; #X connect 14 0 10 1; #X connect 14 0 13 1; #X connect 15 0 6 0; #X connect 15 0 12 1; #X connect 16 0 2 1; #X connect 19 0 22 0; #X connect 19 0 24 0; #X connect 19 1 25 0; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 21 0 23 1; #X connect 22 0 23 0; #X connect 23 0 28 0; #X connect 24 0 27 0; #X connect 25 0 26 0; #X connect 26 0 20 1; #X connect 26 0 22 1; #X connect 26 0 25 1; #X connect 27 0 20 0; #X connect 27 0 24 1; #X connect 28 0 2 2; #X connect 29 0 30 0; #X connect 30 0 32 1; #X connect 30 0 42 0; #X connect 31 0 2 0; #X connect 33 0 40 0; #X connect 34 0 35 0; #X connect 36 0 32 0; #X connect 37 0 32 0; #X connect 38 0 37 0; #X connect 39 0 33 0; #X connect 39 0 34 0; #X connect 39 0 36 0; #X connect 41 0 32 0; #X connect 42 0 43 0; #X connect 43 0 41 0; #X connect 48 0 31 0; #X restore 282 510 pd cursor; #X obj 612 110 separator; #X obj 612 131 pix_texture; #X obj 612 152 square 4; #X obj 62 264 pix_texture; #X obj 62 244 alpha; #X obj 62 224 colourRGB 1 1 1 0.65; #X obj 62 284 translateXYZ -2.4 -2.4 0; #X obj 427 49 gemhead 10; #X obj 62 205 spigot; #X obj 99 160 tgl 20 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X obj 427 70 pix_video; #X obj 16 114 gemwin 30; #X msg 24 47 create; #X msg 25 71 destroy; #X obj 19 18 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1 ; #X text 335 440 size; #X text 315 440 Y; #X text 289 439 X; #X text 859 10 by Ben Bogart (b...@ekran.org); #X obj 62 304 square 1.5; #X obj 277 106 separator; #X obj 278 423 pix_blob; #X obj 205 15 loadbang; #X msg 202 34 0; #X obj 426 15 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X msg 33 92 dimen 300 300; #X text 48 16 gem window; #X text 449 13 live input camera [firewire/usb]; #X text 610 224 [pix_background] 'removes' the background of an image by comparing a static image in memory to an incoming video stream. all values withing a given range are turned black. for best effect \, place a camera on a static scene like a blank wall and hit 'reset'. then set the range control to cover any variance in the background. when a new object enters the scene it will be the only thing draw against a black background. use pix_chroma_key or pix_compare to add in images in place of the black.; #X text 611 199 --; #X text 607 85 image of the camera; #X text 608 93 ; #X text 610 392 Inlet 2: float: range (f == f f f); #X text 609 341 Inlet 2: list: range \; in RGBA mode this is +-red +-green +-blue \; in YUV-mode this is +-luma +-Cb +-Cr \; in Gray-mode only the first value is important +-gray; #X text 612 211 Description: separate an object from background; #X text 215 80 motion tracking; #X text 216 88 ---; #X text 34 167 ; #X text 440 171 threshold; #X text 605 446 [pix_blob] will calculate the center
Re: [PD] abstraction precedence
You could also remove the clashing libraries from your startup list, if you know which ones are causing the trouble. But this makes your patches far less portable. D. On 8/28/10 1:17 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: If I had been using Pd Extended when I was working at the patch, I would have detected and avoided any name clash at the very moment of saving each new abstraction I would create. But now that the patch was done and I wanted to open it in Pd Extended, I just wondered if there was a way that would save me the pain of checking every abstraction. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 121: Mute and continue ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] abstraction precedence
Couldn't the abs folder be anywhere? [abs_anywhere_in_path/abstraction_name]? d. On 8/27/10 11:51 AM, cyrille henry wrote: create a abs folder in the patch folder put your abstraction in it create [abs/abstraction_name] object Cyrille Le 26/08/2010 21:19, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Hi, I made a patch in Pd Vanilla and happened to create some abstractions that have same names (but completely different functionality) as some Pd Extended objects; so now if I open it in Pd Extended, the externals will be used instead of my abstractions. Is there a way I can change this precedence, and have the abstractions in the patch folder take priority over library externals in case of name clashes? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 91: Infinitesimal gradations ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Bang
Awesome. This is the second time I've seen one of these. Bring on more Pd cakes! Maybe the next PdCon could have a baking contest instead of all those ever-so-exciting academic papers ;-) D. On 8/24/10 8:59 AM, Philip Cunningham wrote: Visiting my family in Scotland, my sister made me an early birthday present. It's a very tasty, and patchable, cake. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 27: Change instrument roles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual
The FLOSS Manual gets discussed on the Discuss-FM list and on the Pd list. I've posted several updates on what could be done to improve the English manual on both lists in the last few years, which don't seem to get much attention... Mostly people edit it in a hit-and-run kind of fashion when they find something they think needs fixing while reading it. Major pushes towards improvements happen during book sprints, but we have none planned. My own life and work has taken me pretty far from the project myself at the moment, so I stay on mainly as admin. Like HC said, and I echoed, don't wait around for the English manual to be finished. It's not likely to happen any time soon. Start translating, and if you find problems or places where it is incomplete, then fill the gaps in Portuguese or even in English if you like. If you add content in Portuguese, point it out to us on these two lists and perhaps someone will translate it into English. Best! Derek On 8/10/10 12:54 AM, Gabi Thumé wrote: I am really interested to contribute to the Portuguese version, BTW I think that the English version also need help to be finished. But I don't know how I can contribute with. I know that all of you are making effort to this Manual, but I think the community that wants to learn PD here in Brazil needs a translation. But I wish to help you with the English version too. So, how can I help the English version? Which version may I translate to Portuguese? The last one of each chapter? How to know the state of the English version? Is there another mail list of the guys doing that? Sorry about all of my questions. Thanks. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 104: Listen in total darkness, or in a very large room, very quietly ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Portuguese translation of the PD manual
Hello Gabi Ildomar, the PD FLOSS Manual is still very much under development. If you want to translate it, that;s fine but keep in mind that it could be revised at any time. Take the chapters from the editing interface rather than the published online version for the most recent, but somewhat unstable versions/revisions. And feel free to maker improvements where you find a place for them! Best, Derek On 8/9/10 10:33 PM, Gabi Thumé wrote: Hello! We are interested to help the portuguese translation of the Floss Manuals of Pure Data. We are looking forward to help this comunity! In the translation interface has a option with various revisions, I suppose we need to translate the last revision (1.15), is it right? We just started editing the introduction, so can we just publish it? Thanks for now. cheers, GabrielaThume and IldomarCarvalho -- A realidade é a fuga para aqueles que não têm coragem de enfrentar os sonhos -- Slavoj Zizek Gabriela Salvador Thumé http://gabi.void.cc/ Bacharelanda em Ciência da Computação (UDESC - Joinville) Colméia - Grupo de Pesquisa em Software Livre MuSA - http://musa.cc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Portuguese translation of the PD manual
I'm totally supportive of forking whatever translation comes up. The reason that the Pd FLOSS Manual will never be finished is that Pd can do some many things, and the docs all arise out of individual people's research and needs. So if the PT scene has other stuff they are interested in, and skew their manual in that direction, good for them! D. On 8/9/10 11:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FLOSS Manuals is really in a similar style of a wiki. So once the Portuguese version of the manual gets started, you can just edit chapters as you have time. The big question here is whether the Portuguese should stick closely to the English version, or just naturally develop in relation to the English. I would hate to see the Portuguese effort blocked by waiting for the English effort, but there is also something to be gained by staying in sync. Plus if there is a big push to write the Portuguese version, then the English version could also draw from it. Of course, I hope that as people work on the Portuguese version, they could also contribute to the English version. That's the discussion, I see good reasons to do it both ways. Its up to the people who want to work on the Portuguese version how they want to approach it. .hc On Aug 9, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Ariane stolfi wrote: hi I would like to help also, how can I? [] a 2010/8/9 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl mailto:de...@umatic.nl Hello Gabi Ildomar, the PD FLOSS Manual is still very much under development. If you want to translate it, that;s fine but keep in mind that it could be revised at any time. Take the chapters from the editing interface rather than the published online version for the most recent, but somewhat unstable versions/revisions. And feel free to maker improvements where you find a place for them! Best, Derek On 8/9/10 10:33 PM, Gabi Thumé wrote: Hello! We are interested to help the portuguese translation of the Floss Manuals of Pure Data. We are looking forward to help this comunity! In the translation interface has a option with various revisions, I suppose we need to translate the last revision (1.15), is it right? We just started editing the introduction, so can we just publish it? Thanks for now. cheers, GabrielaThume and IldomarCarvalho -- A realidade é a fuga para aqueles que não têm coragem de enfrentar os sonhos -- Slavoj Zizek Gabriela Salvador Thumé http://gabi.void.cc/ Bacharelanda em Ciência da Computação (UDESC - Joinville) Colméia - Grupo de Pesquisa em Software Livre MuSA - http://musa.cc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 194: Steal a solution. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 202: Back up a few steps. What else could you have done? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Yet another post about cpu consumption... (for Linux users)
Be careful that there are not [line~] objects still running in a [switch~]ed off subpatch. I can't point to the exact discussion about this, but it can cause problems. D. On 8/5/10 9:26 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: minimal GUI and no bangs blinking all the time, and switch~ objects to cut the audio within all the subpatches that are not in use at a certain moment in time. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 161: Trust in the you of now ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Yet another post about cpu consumption... (for Linux users)
Ah right, thanks for the clarification! D. On 8/5/10 7:18 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 5 Aug 2010, Derek Holzer wrote: Be careful that there are not [line~] objects still running in a [switch~]ed off subpatch. I can't point to the exact discussion about this, but it can cause problems. It's [vline~], which accumulates long (potentially endless) to-do lists of future line segments in RAM, whereas [line~] only remembers one line segment. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 149: Take a break ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Masses of ctlin in abstraction causing CPU Overload
Well, if you are trying to display all the values in number boxes at the same time, and the digital mixer is sending them at a very fast rate, then yes Pd will choke on it. The numbers themselves aren't the problem, it's Pd's crappy graphics interface! The attached abstraction is from the mapping library. It's used in the subpatch named [pd display values without pegging the cpu] in the arduino-help.pd patch, so I suppose it should do just that. It works by resampling the input number stream every so many milliseconds. The creation argument should be the number of milliseconds between each sample. First inlet is the number stream to be resampled, the second inlet is in case you want to change the resampling rate. Best! Derek On 8/4/10 2:06 PM, Christoph Kuhr wrote: Hi there, im working on a digital mixing desk, any channel is build of 33 MIDI CCs one CPU has to manage 8 channels for using ctlin with dynamic arguments, i put it in an abstraction, did two multiplications and two compersisons. when i change a CC value the pd-gui is getting REALLY busy, computing about 20 minutes for that one value. do you have any ideas, on how to do that more CPU saving? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 21: Be less critical #N canvas 382 381 450 300 10; #X obj 46 140 metro \$1; #X obj 46 42 loadbang; #X obj 85 17 inlet; #X obj 46 197 outlet; #X obj 153 16 inlet; #X obj 46 89 != 0; #X obj 46 112 sel 1; #X obj 46 67 \$1; #X obj 46 169 list 0; #X connect 0 0 8 0; #X connect 1 0 7 0; #X connect 2 0 8 1; #X connect 4 0 0 1; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 0 0; #X connect 7 0 5 0; #X connect 8 0 3 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] resonator: Making resonances with Pure Data
[partconv~] ;-) D. On 7/31/10 2:21 AM, Cody Loyd wrote: (and if you DO manage to get a reletively economical convolver built LET ME KNOW) -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 113: Make a blank valuable by putting it in an exquisite frame ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] resonator: Making resonances with Pure Data
Search the archive for karplus-strong or resonant comb filter. I posted at least one usable patch under the second topic... Best! Derek On 7/30/10 2:02 PM, hghoyer wrote: I am looking for a way to simulate resonances in a tube. So a kind of resonator, or something. Maybe someone there already a patch to generate resonances? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 14: Ask people to work against their better judgement ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd path on OSX
http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/AdvancedConfig On 6/24/10 8:46 PM, courr...@labastie.org wrote: Hello, Would someone tell me how to modify pd-path on OSX ? When I am on Application folder, I can't get folders activated. So I would like to modify .pdrc but I can't find it on mac OSX... I use Pd version 0.41.4-extended. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 29: Change nothing and continue with immaculate consistency ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ error
Hi August, thanks for your quick reply and sorry for my slow one ;-) The short answer is that cleaning up the headers of the soundfiles by re-encoding with sndfile-convert did the trick. Celine, the student I am working with, promised to write you a bit later with more details. Best! Derek On 6/15/10 5:31 PM, august wrote: Derek, Are you using MacOS X? What version of readanysf~? What version of gavl and gmerlin_avdec are packaged with it/used with it? I don't suspect it is the soundfile itself, but just in case, can you put an example online for me. This is going to be a tough bug to find, unless you see some sort of regularity in how the sound turns to noise for you and can report that to me? can you make a simple patch that isolates the bug? Also, when the sound goes to noise, is it just that one particular soundfile that is used in readanysf or is it PD's entire output. In other words, when you hear noise, can you also hear the other readanysf's playingor can you also make a simple osc~ and hear it play correctly? The Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. warning can also come if you send play to the readanysf object without it having a file loaded. I assume this is what is happening. -a. Hello August, list I'm helping a student's installation, and we have created a patch which uses 24 instances of readanysf~ to read from 24 different soundfiles between 15min and one hour in length. All sound files are mono, 16 bit, 44.1KHz WAV_PCM format. The problem is that, after a length of time, the readanysf~ objects output noise rather than the soundfile. It is not the result of any single soundfile, and many or all of the readanysf~ objects can be affected by this simultaneously. I have attached the abstraction in question. The object is instantiated as [readanysf~ 1], in other words the block size and and buffer size are defaults. Sample terminal output is as follows while the patch is running: Created new readanysf~ with 1 channels and internal buffer of 24 * 64 = 1536 Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Opening each soundfile individually with readanysf~ and sending play and pause messages reports no errors whatsoever, however. I have sndfile-info data for all of the soundfiles. The only irregularity I see in this is one file which reports: Unknown chunk marker at position 6087587. Resynching. Besides that, most of the files report something like this: File : F_DOK6.wav Length : 146725772 RIFF : 146725764 WAVE bext : 602 fmt : 16 Format: 0x1 = WAVE_FORMAT_PCM Channels : 1 Sample Rate : 44100 Block Align : 2 Bit Width : 16 Bytes/sec : 88200 *** minf : 16 (unknown marker) *** elm1 : 7506 (unknown marker) data : 140114520 *** regn : 92 (unknown marker) *** umid : 24 (unknown marker) *** DGDA : 6602919 (unknown marker) End Sample Rate : 44100 Frames : 70057260 Channels: 1 Format : 0x00010002 Sections: 1 Seekable: TRUE Duration: 00:26:28.600 Signal Max : 11627 (-9.00 dB) Someone suggested the noisy output may be the result of a buffer problem, but I am not sure who I could verify or correct this. I checked with top while the noise was happening and saw no evidence that Pd was using any more memory than usual, and the CPU meter reported 30%. Hardware is an Intel Mac Mini, software is Pd-Extended 0.41.4. Any suggestions or other diagnostics I could run are appreciated. Best! Derek -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 136: Remove specifics and convert to ambiguities -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 6: Abandon normal instruments ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] readanysf~ error
Hello August, list I'm helping a student's installation, and we have created a patch which uses 24 instances of readanysf~ to read from 24 different soundfiles between 15min and one hour in length. All sound files are mono, 16 bit, 44.1KHz WAV_PCM format. The problem is that, after a length of time, the readanysf~ objects output noise rather than the soundfile. It is not the result of any single soundfile, and many or all of the readanysf~ objects can be affected by this simultaneously. I have attached the abstraction in question. The object is instantiated as [readanysf~ 1], in other words the block size and and buffer size are defaults. Sample terminal output is as follows while the patch is running: Created new readanysf~ with 1 channels and internal buffer of 24 * 64 = 1536 Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Current file is either invalid or an unsupported codec. Opening each soundfile individually with readanysf~ and sending play and pause messages reports no errors whatsoever, however. I have sndfile-info data for all of the soundfiles. The only irregularity I see in this is one file which reports: Unknown chunk marker at position 6087587. Resynching. Besides that, most of the files report something like this: File : F_DOK6.wav Length : 146725772 RIFF : 146725764 WAVE bext : 602 fmt : 16 Format: 0x1 = WAVE_FORMAT_PCM Channels : 1 Sample Rate : 44100 Block Align : 2 Bit Width : 16 Bytes/sec : 88200 *** minf : 16 (unknown marker) *** elm1 : 7506 (unknown marker) data : 140114520 *** regn : 92 (unknown marker) *** umid : 24 (unknown marker) *** DGDA : 6602919 (unknown marker) End Sample Rate : 44100 Frames : 70057260 Channels: 1 Format : 0x00010002 Sections: 1 Seekable: TRUE Duration: 00:26:28.600 Signal Max : 11627 (-9.00 dB) Someone suggested the noisy output may be the result of a buffer problem, but I am not sure who I could verify or correct this. I checked with top while the noise was happening and saw no evidence that Pd was using any more memory than usual, and the CPU meter reported 30%. Hardware is an Intel Mac Mini, software is Pd-Extended 0.41.4. Any suggestions or other diagnostics I could run are appreciated. Best! Derek -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 136: Remove specifics and convert to ambiguities abs_Frei_VOL.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ error
Yes, I went and did this by simply re-encoding with sndfile-convert (which probably just rewrites the headers when converting wav to wav). I wasn't sure what they were, thanks for explaining! Will report back when the student lets me know how it went... D. On 6/15/10 7:21 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: *** minf : 16 (unknown marker) *** elm1 : 7506 (unknown marker) data : 140114520 *** regn : 92 (unknown marker) *** umid : 24 (unknown marker) *** DGDA : 6602919 (unknown marker) also, go in and remove any/all markers in the wav file that may have been created in an editing app beforehand -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 5: Abandon normal instructions ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pduino windoze
Quick question: what must one do to be able to use Pduino on windows? Is there a USB serial port driver that has to be installed? D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 94: Is it finished? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
Updated patch: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3012451group_id=55736atid=478070 Maybe sometime in the next millennium this will make it into the distribution D. On 6/7/10 9:42 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote: On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:56 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: On 6/7/10 1:48 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: does anyone happen to know what exactly IN the patch is making pd crash? has anyone tried fixing it by editing the help patch as a text file? Replace the existing [plugin~] help patch with one posted by Frank Barknecht some years ago. For the five thousandth time in several years, can someone with CVS write access *please* just change this friggin' thing!!! Post the bug to the tracker with the updated patch: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=55736atid=478070 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=55736atid=478070 That's the easiest way to get it fixed for those of us without SVN commit access. Dan Wilcox danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 176: What context would look right? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
Thanks. It's not my patch, it's one from Frank from a few years ago. Others have reported [more] success with it. Best! D. On 6/7/10 4:34 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-06-07 11:13, Derek Holzer wrote: Updated patch: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3012451group_id=55736atid=478070 Maybe sometime in the next millennium this will make it into the distribution as noted in the patch tracker: your patch crashes my Pd just as well as the original one. anyhow, i have committed some changes to plugin~ that will hopefully fix most issues. (read: it doesn't crash here AND it doesn't make text-vanish) please test (personally, i don't use LV2, ladspa, vst,...) if it is good enough, it should probably go into the PdX-0.42 release before it's too late. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 177: What is the reality of the situation? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
the larger problem is that plugin~ crashes whenever a non-existent plugin is requested. that is an issue i have no idea how to fix. maybe the help patch in question should not request any plugins then, but simply include syntax for how it works. d. On 6/7/10 6:40 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-06-07 18:24, Derek Holzer wrote: Thanks. It's not my patch, it's one from Frank from a few years ago. whosever patch it was, it crashed here. so could you try to confirm whether the new code works as expected? if it does work, then no help-patch should crash anymore. e.g. the load a plugin from a dll (e.g. [plugin~ stereo_amp amp.so]) doesn't work for me, but it seems like it doesn't work with the original version either. fgmasdr IOhannes -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 121: Mute and continue ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
sorry, maybe i read quickly. i read that you made changes, but i did not understand you wanted those tested. i was still discussing the help patch. if i find time later i will check it. is it in the CVS? i've never tested release candidates for Pd before so pls excuse my ignorance. d. On 6/7/10 6:51 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hello derek, i'm not sure whether you read my emails or whether i write nonsense. On 2010-06-07 18:43, Derek Holzer wrote: the larger problem is that plugin~ crashes whenever a non-existent plugin is requested. that is an issue i have no idea how to fix. maybe the help patch in question should not request any plugins then, but simply include syntax for how it works. about 2 hours ago, i committed a changeset to the plugin~.c source code, that should fix all these problems. (read: there is a bugfix, which fixes the bug rather than trying to avoid triggering it) i ask you (and everybody else, who is interested in a working [plugin~]), to get the source-code, compile the external and test whether it works. i'm pressing this a bit, in order to get the bugfix into PdX. fgam,sdr IOhannes -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 156: The tape is now the music ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Where is the object reference documentation?
Get involved in the FLOSS Manual? D. On 6/7/10 8:36 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: How exactly would one start to work on the Pd Manual? More specifically: What is the process by which a new, professionally written manual replaces the old, error-ridden manual? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 109: Lost in useless territory ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Where is the object reference documentation?
This is the exact goal of the FLOSS Manual. The site allows a PDF to be generated from the current status of the manual. I've been encouraging people not to reply solely on the images and patches, but to describe things in text as well in order to ensure its searchability. One caveat, however, is that FLOSS documentation tends to follow the FLOSS software model of multi-authorship. Therefore, things get filled in as people have the drive to do so. The professional, single-author model seems just as uncommon in the docs as it does in the software itself, so be careful what kind of standards you apply. Or you could go out and pay for something professional... ;-) D. On 6/7/10 11:20 PM, Jim Aikin wrote: What one wants, I think, is a single PDF file that, in the absence of an index, can be searched for text strings, and that is conceived and written in a linear, coherent manner. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 46: Disconnect from desire ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
On 6/5/10 8:56 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: - I remember Derek mentioning a 'workaround' in the archives but was unable to find the solution - (was it recompiling the plugin~ object?) can someone point me to the workaround? I've pasted my reply from the thread easy effects, and I also started a page on plugin~/LADSPA in the FLOSS Manual (*very* rough, needs a lot of expansion!): http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/UsingLADSPAplugins [plugin~] can be tricky or just a plain pain the wazoo to use simply because it can crash when given the wrong creation arguments, such as the name of a plugin that doesn't exist on your computer. Of course, a help patch which crashed on anybody's computer should be a high priority to fix, but maybe not everybody around here seems to agree with that ;-) I posted about this problem in 2005 and still it hasn't really been dealt with. [plugin~] requires the path to your LADSPA directory to be set as the LADSPA_PATH in the environment. Look up setting environmental variables plus either bash or shell on Google to see how this is done if you don't know how. If you use the terminal command listplugins, you should see a list of the LADSPA plugins on your system. You must use the exact name listed there, for example, if listplugins gives you: /usr/local/lib/ladspa/noise.so: White Noise Source (1050/noise_white) then you would use [plugin~ noise_white]. (Somebody correct me if this is wrong, I am not on a Linux system where I can check this for the next several days...) Then, you need to send the proper control parameter number, and NOT the control parameter name. For example, if sending the message info to the plugin lists the following to your Pd window via [print]: Loaded from library /usr/lib/ladspa/mvclpf24.so. Control input(s): #1 Input gain (dB) #2 Frequency #3 Exp FM gain #4 Resonance #5 Resonance gain #6 Filter poles #7 Output gain (dB) Control output(s): Audio input(s): #1 Input #2 Frequency #3 Exp FM #4 Resonance Audio output(s): #1 Output Then you would have to make a message 1 $1 to send a variable to control the input gain from a number box or slider. More info on LADSPAs in general: http://linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/02/02/ladspa.html If somebody would like to make a chapter on this in the Pd FLOSS Manual, I would jump for joy. I just haven't had the time to do it myself. Feel free to copy paste from this email and make some screenshots! ;-) You can also search for plugin~ in the list archives and find much discussion on this. The two threads I started were called plugin~ ladspa and setting plugin~ control inputs in about 2005, when I was trying to figure this all out. Best! Derek -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 136: Remove specifics and convert to ambiguities ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
On 6/7/10 1:48 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: does anyone happen to know what exactly IN the patch is making pd crash? has anyone tried fixing it by editing the help patch as a text file? Replace the existing [plugin~] help patch with one posted by Frank Barknecht some years ago. For the five thousandth time in several years, can someone with CVS write access *please* just change this friggin' thing!!! [plugin~] requires the path to your LADSPA directory to be set as the LADSPA_PATH in the environment. Look up setting environmental variables plus either bash or shell on Google to see how this is done if you don't know how. is this done instead of creating a path to the LADSPA plugs dir in pd? or does it have to be done in addition to a pd path? This is done in bash and not at all in Pd. If you use the terminal command listplugins, you should point out in the FOSS manual that one needs to have the ladspa-sdk installed to use this command Thanks. Of course, you could create a FLOSS Manuals login and add this piece of info yourself ;-) I may not get around to it... Best! D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 159: Tidy up ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loading an .aif file into an array
Try: list camilocadavid/Secuencias/Bajo_fiesta1 80.aif | [l2s] | read -resize $1 Bajo but really your life will be much easier when you rename your files so that they do not have spaces in the filenames. If your objective is just to load the AIFF, why not use bang | [openpanel] | read -resize $1 Bajo ??? Best, Derek On 5/31/10 3:00 AM, Camilo Cadavid Corredor wrote: [rc-filename] doesnt exist in my Pd. it is the extended 0.41.4 version. Is this an object? I still havent been able to upload an .aif file... I also tried the sugested: list camilocadavid/Secuencias/Bajo_fiesta1 80.aif Bajo | [l2s] | read -resize $1 well, after I created the 100 size Bajo named array, these comands didnt fit the file into the array. My main objective is to simply load an .aif to play with it. I appreciate your help. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 204: What do you do? Now, what do you do best?' ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loading an .aif file into an array
Hi Dan, go for it! The Dataflow section is a bit of a mess right now, and in need of a massive revision to simplify it, so don't rely on it for content or tone. Please make sure to read this before starting: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/WritingConventions You can add a new chapter at the top of this page: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/WebHome I haven't arranged the index in a while. On the whole I think the manual needs a lot of work before it is totally publishable, but new inputs are good news. Best! Derek On 5/31/10 1:36 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: I made a quick tutorial and I want to add a section to the pd floss manual. I created an account, but how do I add a page? I was thinking a page called Dealing with filenames etc would work under the Dataflow section. I can also put info about relative versus absolute paths. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 178: What is the simplest solution? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] microphone cleaner advice
Sorry if it sounds a little hard, but maybe the simple solution is to learn to use the microphone better to avoid the environmental noise in the first place? It's not that difficult, and saves you a lot of digital work and/or processing artifacts later on. D. On 5/27/10 8:47 PM, patrick wrote: my microphone is not that noisy (for a diy 6$ microphone): http://www.workinprogress.ca/electret-microphone-amplifier/ but the environment is (computer fan for example). -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 28: Change nothing and continue consistently ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
