From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sigma 70-300 DL
All the best!
Raimo
Which one?
There are currently two Sigma 70-300 DL:s.
1. Sigma DL Macro Super
2. Sigma DL Super APO 2.
Thanks,
Lasse
This line of argument totally misses the following point. 'Entry level'
purchasers simply will not posses any lenses that require non-metered
operation. If they already own any lenses then they don't represent the
'entry level'. They need only ensure that every subsequent lens they
purchase is
Thanks, Jerome.
I've been thinking about the 80-320. However, if consensus is that some third party
maker's lens will beat it at 300, I will go for that one.
Thanks for showing the pictures. The Komodo Dragon looks really good.
And yes, this zoom would partly replace a 28-200 (FA) zoom here too.
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Cheap lenses
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Subject: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
I'd recommend one of the Sigma APO lenses. I think there is a 70-300/4-5.6
that's supposed to be pretty good.
So I've heard. But which model?
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Thanks guys, but super quality has since
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
Lasse Karlsson wrote:
I haven't kept up to date on what has been released lately.
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF,
Not if the counterjumper at the camera store tells them that spotmetering is
what Real Photographers do, and that a camera without a spotmeter is junk.
Just look at the wristwatches worn by average teenage boys, and then tell me
that in a couple of years time they'll want strong but stylish and
The non-APO is cheaper and almost as good - in some tests it is even better. The APO
is a bit sharper at the long end.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
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Lähettäjä: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why would they correct the aperture value for the extension? This is
just the same as having your lens at minimum focusing distance, surely
the meter just reads that as less light coming through?
Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Cheap lenses to sell, anyone?
I was primarily thinking primes in the neighbourhood of $15, so ugly
they've been rejected by any second hand shop or
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935933421category=15240
not mine but f2.5 is pretty fast
Hi Rüdiger,
on 19 Jun 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
[very interesting feature comparison snipped]
If you see the features, you see that only the mount compatibilty is entry
level, all others are mid class and some are on the level of the MZ-S. IF
you are saying the *ist is entry level, then your
Hi Anthony,
on 20 Jun 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
smaller than maximum were ever possible using pre A lenses on an *ist.
Don't say the last three words too quickly };-)
ROTFL!
Cheers, Heiko
Hi gang,
I have a boxed Asahiflex flashgun for sale or will consider
trades. It is in NOS condition, which is to say that the box is a little
worn in spots and has the original price (7 pounds, no shillings!)
written on the front in ballpoint pen, while the flashgun itself is
bright
Heiko Hamann wrote:
We should also keep in mind that the SLRs are developping more and more.
Compare the LX to an actual entry-level MZ-60.
Sure. The MZ-60 has a plastic lens mount, a dim small viewfinder and
uses a focusing method that sometimes works. Nearly. It also comes with
these
Writing the previous message with 10 years ago.. I just noticed that
this year I should celebrate 10 years since I got my first Pentax.
cheers,
caveman
I think the MZ-S is a huge disappointment at its price
point, except for die hard Pentax users who don't want to
change brands.
I don't agree. The reason I use Pentaxes is they make very nice, small
no-nonsense camera (among others, that is). That's why I use a MX and a
MZ-S. You say that the
Why not call it caveman?
Caveman wrote:
An inkjet print is as much a photograph as it is a piece of junk. If you
accept you can call it anything, why not call it junk or c**p or toilet
paper.
Hi all.
First off,got an email from Aaron.Hes on holidays for the next two weeks. That will
buy me
some time
to take some more photos.lol
Second,i ts a lovely day today,i have it off and plan to shoot some closeup
I have for sale the following items:
Pentax AF330FTZ flash, a perfect companion to the PZ/Z cameras but
will also work with all autofocus Pentaxes. EX+ condition, includes
case and manual. Autozooms (with F/FA lenses) 28/35/50/70/85mm. See
Boz's page at
Gasp! I've been a Pentax user since 1963 - Honeywell H3. Still have the
camera.
Jim A.
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Subject: Happy Pentax to me
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From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BTW are American opossums marsupials? The possums of Oceania definitely
are.
regards,
Anthony Farr
Yep. Didelphis virginiana (Virginia opossum). note that it is opossum with
an o unlike the Aussie possum (no o). The
The Virginia opossum is a true
marsupial with a well developed pouch. It is the only
North American marsupial. There are several in South
America, which at one point, was attached to Australia
and floating free in the Pacific ocean until they
separated and S. America joined N. America
Yep. Didelphis virginiana (Virginia opossum). note that it is opossum with
an o unlike the Aussie possum (no o). The Virginia opossum is a true
marsupial with a well developed pouch. It is the only North American
marsupial. There are several in South America, which at one point, was
attached
You will use the TTL meter, right? Then, no compensation is needed...
Alex.
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Hi all.
First off,got an email from Aaron.Hes on holidays
Hi Stan,
Nice to hear your voice. Sounds like you had fun!
(Consistent lurker for years and occasional contributor/pest) - THaller
There are several in South America, which at one point, was
attached to Australia and floating free in the Pacific ocean until they
separated and S. America joined N. America via Central America.
IIRC that woud have been Gondwanaland (sp).
I knew studying geology would be helpful sometime
It's even more disturbing when you think a shot is good, but nobody else
likes it. It's a bonus when people praise a shot you hadn't personally
appreciated.
That happens to me ~all~ the time. I'll take a shot, think it'll be just
great, rush off to the lab, get the print back, ~and I nailed
I met only one person who did not believe in plate tectonics. I
don't think it is a question of believing. It is simply the best
theory available, as with Bering Straight migration as the main
source of migrants. As an inside, there was an Argentinian
paleontologist who said he could prove
Dave,
Firstly, if you're metering TTL, and/or using OTF flash automation with the
Super Program you won't need to compensate for anything, the internal meter
will be affected by the extensions exactly the same as the film will be.
If you're transferring exposure values from an external meter, or
No questionFA*85 f1.4. Fast, creamy, sexy lens. And that's before
you put the hood on.
D
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Actually, the theory I like is: The earth was once a moon of Jupiter that
got hit by a giant nickel iron meteor which smashed into the core of that
moon raising the temperature to the point where meteor melted. The collision
knocked the earth out of its orbit around Jupiter and it finally
The ones the artist likes will only be considered great after the artist is
dead. That is the way of it!
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:37 AM
Oh for goodness sake! There is good solid evidence in support of plate
tectonics. The edges of the plates we can get at have the same rock
formation, minerals and fossils as the matching ones now very far away. Do
you believe that mountain ranges were pushed up? Look at the folded ones.
You can
As the church told us and it couldn't be wrong because it was spreading
God's word, the earth was initially flat. Than some prankster made it
round, apparently with no other purpose than pissing off the inquisition
and making the kangaroos stand upside down. The foldings are
inevitable when
Guys,
Using dictionaries from times preceding inkjet technology are not going to
help us out trying to relate to the new thing.
Graywolf and DagT have been closest to the point here. There are other
technologies about that produce essentially the same thing as a traditional
photographic print,
Thanks Anthony.
I took a few before reading this but i think i'm ok.
I used the 10mm tube for some red sunflower and yellow/purple iris's.I used
a handheld meter to which i added 1 stop.
After i put the tubes back into their box,i noticed a piece of onion skin paper folded
up
and
stuffed tightly
Not to mention that South America and Africa, and Africa and Madagascar fit
together like a jigsaw. IIRC, the theory is that eventually Los Angeles
will be a neighboring city of Anchorage.
Bill
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Sent:
In other words, Plate Tectonics is science. Genesis is a chapter in a very
silly story-book.
I'm not going to go on with this.
Don
Genesis, I'd rather say, is myth of origin in a very popular
moralistic book. Science has its own myth of origin, the Big Bang,
constantly evolving though...
Jostein wrote:
A magazine's reproduction of a photography has had no obstacles to pass as a
photograph in people's minds, so why bother with a inkjet printout?
They don't pass as photographs, they pass as image reproductions (the
typographically printed form of it).
If you look at those obsolete
John wrote:
It is also true to state that most MZ-S bodies will
never reach the point of breaking a shutter because they
only get light amateur use.
REPLY:
You seem to base this on the assumption that MZ-S contains a shutter not optimized for
durability. This is way off the truth. The MZ-S
A digital camera is nothing but a glorified palm computer with
builtin webcam. The very first result of the image taking process is
a file on a memory card. You transfer that file to a bigger computer
then print it on a computer printer. That's it. It's computing.
It's still photography! Light
STOP PLATE TECTONICS!
Back in 1970, I had a geology professor who, at that time, was not convinced
of plate tectonics.
Where can I find cross-section drawings for the Pentax Takumar lenses
?
I remember seeing these in Pentax's literature years ago.
Thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't hold to that belief too strongly, Christian.
Most of the time, back when writers respected English language roots,
they spelled opossum like 'possum, because the o was dropped in speech.
That's called an 'aphesis.'
Look it up.
Both are the same creature.
Some folks spell him differently,
I suspect you're still in the denial phase. You know, when something bad
happens to you, like getting fired or cutting off your fingers, you may
go through this:
de-ni-al (di nie'uhl) n.
8. Psychol. the reduction of anxiety by the
unconscious exclusion
Pål Jensen wrote:
The MZ-S use a shutter designed for 1/8000s but tuned at 1/6000s in
order to increase durability and reliability and reduce power consumption.
The MZ-S is built to professional standard because it is based on a camera that was plannet to cost $8000 and designed for Pentax
I believe the Unofficial Spotty page has many of them.
http://spotmatic.web-page.net/
Evan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where can I find cross-section drawings for the Pentax Takumar lenses
?
I remember seeing these in Pentax's literature years ago.
Thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where can I find cross-section drawings for the Pentax Takumar lenses
?
I remember seeing these in Pentax's literature years ago.
Thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a book called The Ultimate ASAHI PENTAX Screw Mount Guide, 1952-1977.
This book was dedicated to
I would pay $750-1000.00 for one.
What if Pentax had come out with a version of the PZ-1P with a Mg alloy
body and improved AF? Would people have paid the same as for an F100 or
do we expect a comparable Pentax to be cheaper?
I've seen pictures of opossums, and they look different enough to Aussie
possums to have prompted my original question
regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't hold to that belief too strongly, Christian.
Most of the time, back when
Hi,
Friday, June 20, 2003, 9:47:07 AM, you wrote:
Image. is root. includes 3D things.
Print. instance of image. includes photographs and all categories of
images printed on a surface through various methods as typography etc.
Photograph. instance of print. a print obtained through
I second that motion.
I also own and use this lens. It is wonderful and goes 1:2 macro from
180-300mm, quite handy. I have been impressed with it's optical quality. It
is a tad slow when focusing. A bonus--- it does not suffer from zoom
creep.
Robert
Subject: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think it should be called a 'malicious' message rather than a virus.
Well, it's what we call a worm, and a rather fun one, since it's based
on manual compliance. Many of you probably remember the ILOVEYOU
worm, and might enjoy the classic
Hi,
Friday, June 20, 2003, 10:16:42 PM, you wrote:
Maybe it's time to get our heads out of the sand.
I don't think that's where his head is...
--
Cheers,
Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm glad I didn't toss the box - what I used was Velvia 100F.
- MCC
At 02:00 PM 6/14/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Mark wrote:
With Kodak discontinuing E100S, the film I use the most, I was interested
in whether or not Velvia 100 would be a suitable replacement. I can't see
using this as anyting but
HEY!
It's dark up here! What the hell's that smell?!
Oh...warm and cozy...
Regards,
Bob...
---
Beer is proof that God loves us
and wants us to be happy
- Benjamin Franklin
From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Friday, June 20,
Actually there is a camera which is quite a direct rival to the MZ-S -
Minolta Dynax 7.
I don't agree. Dynax 7 is a very different camera, built with a very
different philosophy.
It has weaknessess but it also has several strong
advantages over the MZ-S
Agreed. Still, for me, the advantages
Doug,
I've pretty much quit reading them when they say caveman, just not
much content that is interesting or useful.
Bruce
Friday, June 20, 2003, 11:44:55 AM, you wrote:
DB You know, it's really too bad that your posts have somehow morphed into bad
DB imitations of Mafudian logic and
All I know about opossums is that they're ugly son of a bitches and
they're good to eat.
Paul
Keith Whaley wrote:
Are the 'possums I see in my backyard, here in So. Calif., also Virginia 'possums?
No, seriously!
Christian wrote:
[. . .]
To be clear: Virginia opossum (Didelphis
Pål Jensen wrote:
You seem to base this on the assumption that MZ-S contains
a shutter not optimized for durability. This is way off the
truth.
*Your* assumption is way off the truth, Pål.
Try sticking to facts, because you will have a greater
chance of getting things right.
John
Wow! Inkjet prints aren't photographs? Damn. Every high dollar pro in
the business prints his or her portfolio with an inkjet. Beautiful
books. Beautiful images. All on high quality injet paper. And now the
caveman tells me they're not photographs? Gosh, they sure had me fooled.
Paul Stenquist
Hi All,
I need to purchase 3 items from ebay, I dont have paypal or bidpay and
havn't used my credit card in 7 years so its current status is dormant. I
will cover all your costs and time effort. Please contact me offlist. The
one auction ends in 23 hours BTW.
Thanks a million
Feroze
Try telling that to a photography collector. Maybe he will give you
thousands of dollars for a tear sheet from an old life magazine.
Ciao,
Graywolf
No. But in 50 years some photography collector may give a thousand dollars
for an archival ink jet print from a collectable photographer
BUTCH
On 03.6.20 7:39 PM, whickersworld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pål Jensen wrote:
You seem to base this on the assumption that MZ-S contains
a shutter not optimized for durability. This is way off the
truth.
*Your* assumption is way off the truth, Pål.
Try sticking to facts, because you
Hey Bill,
That Gondwanaland thing always stumped me (doesn`t take much).
If all the continents were on one side of the Earth, they`re trying to tell
me that on the other side it was only water? There had to be other
continents
that subducted on the other side, no? Just trying to figure it out.
I had a geology professor in 1976 that said we would be able to predict
earthquakes in about 10 years. Hehe.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Wow! Inkjet prints aren't photographs? Damn. Every high
dollar pro in
the business prints his or her portfolio with an inkjet. Beautiful
books. Beautiful images. All on high quality injet paper.
And now the
caveman
Oh, come on, Frank. People misuse the language all the time. Unfortunately
that tends to make precise communication difficult. As an attorney, I
imagine you are very good at it, convincing juries that their left hand is
really their right hand and all that.
However, you will never convince me
I love it!
Personally, I like; rm -r *
WARNING to the unwary: if done as root it will wipe your hard drive.
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
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...and grin I see no problem with your refusal to accept inkjet prints
as
'photographic prints'.
Regards,
Ed
How about photographic reproductions (vbg)?
Bob
At 09:33 PM 6/20/2003 -0500, Ed Matthew wrote:
I make Ilfochromes, and both fiber-based and RC monochromes. However I
have no problem with calling an inkjet print a photographic print.
...and grin I see no problem with your refusal to accept inkjet prints
as 'photographic prints'.
As Dickens
people are already paying thousands for inkjet prints today, and that is not even for
the really well known photographers. i know two photographic acquaintances who are
nearly exclusively in the fine art market, one selling prints from 35mm and one
selling prints from 4x5. they will never go
Hi, Tom,
No one's going to pay ~anything~ for the snapshots I took with my Brownie of my
pet cat, Misty, when I was 10 years old, either. But they're still photographs,
albeit bad ones.
I'm not trying to tell you, or anyone else, that a newspaper reproduction is the
same thing as an original
At 09:33 PM 6/20/2003 -0500, Ed Matthew wrote:
I make Ilfochromes, and both fiber-based and RC monochromes. However I
have no problem with calling an inkjet print a photographic print.
...and grin I see no problem with your refusal to accept inkjet prints
as 'photographic prints'.
As
Alice descended into a vast cathedral, with rows of devout worshippers,
kneeling before a diamond ark of blinding light, and intensely murmuring
in a low, uniform whisper: Arate . . . arate . . . arate . . . arate . . .
Beside the ark stood a majestic priest dressed in a white linen tunic
and a
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From: Lukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lens Mount Progress
I don't agree. Dynax 7 is a very different camera, built with a very
different philosophy.
Actually this can be said about any other camera from any manufacturer. I
believe every
Hi Vic
I would love to love the MZ-S as well. I can't afford the MZ-S as well as
the *ist D - so I'll have to choose! Today I spend a lot of effort finding
companies who can scan my negs well -and without making prints, that I dont
need. I found af company who makes tiff scans (16 MB images) for
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