Yes, it's finally here! (Romania, btw). At 2000 euros (add 19%VAT) is not
cheap, but comparable with the 10D.
Unfortunately, I've only saw - not buy - it. I need 2380 euro more before I
can have it. :(
After I held the camera in my hands, this is what I thought:
- first, the *istD is tiny. The
The Tamron SP 28-75/2.8 is said to be optically excellent. The Japanese Capa
magazine also tested it better than the Tokina on light-fall-off, wide open
sharpness and flare control. The best thing is it costs $320 only.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
From: Bucky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 11.11.03 18:05, Mark Erickson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Remember the good old days when the 67 brotherhood dominated the list and we
all longed for the new flagship? I went out shooting a night-time project
last night with my MZ-S and I have to say that I really, really like it. I
on 12.11.03 3:22, Bucky at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, so my Tokina 28-80 ATX Pro is a bit soft and big and heavy for the *ist
D. Are any of the Pentax zooms in that range (with the exception of the FA*
28-70 f/2.8, which I cannot afford at present) particular standouts?
FA 24-90/3.5-4.5
Hi,
John F wrote:
They came out with a firmware upgrade for the MZ-S fairly fast
(to fix the frame-overlapping problem).
To Pentax's credit, they fixed this before retail production started.
Anyone who had this problem had probably been sold a beta tester.
mike
Hi John,
on 12 Nov 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
Actually Sony *are* the big brand when it comes to digital cameras and
technology. Not only do they sell a lot under their own name, they also
make the sensors used in a lot of cameras sold under very different, but
well-known brand names.
E.g.
Hi Cotty,
on 11 Nov 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
here made experiences with the Sigma wide angles (17-35, 15-30 or the
new 12-14)?
Heiko, I have the Sigma EX 14mm 2.8 and use it on my D60, giving an
effective focal length of 22.4mm. On an *ist D it should work out to
about 21mm.
That's a
Hi Herb,
on 11 Nov 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
i have had the Sigma 15-30 for over a year. i haven't taken any pictures
with it yet on the *ist D, just looked through the viewfinder.
It would be nive to hear of your experiences with this lens on the
*istD.
it is a bulky lens and moderately
Seems odd. One of mine - bought in the retail channel from BH had
the problem. I seriously doubt that it was a beta tester. It was
packaged and sold as new by a reputable dealer. The problem was
posted on the Pentax website with serial #'s and a way to test if your
camera was affected. This
When I was in grad school studying biochemistry
years ago, we used normal glass tubes for regular
visible spectrophotometry, but quartz tubes (much
higher priced) for UV spectrophotometry. The quartz
passed much more UV than regular glass, but I don't
know how much it absorbed.
-Lon
Wm. Robb
Hi Alex,
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:
Yes, it's finally here! (Romania, btw). At 2000 euros (add 19%VAT) is not
cheap, but comparable with the 10D.
Unfortunately, I've only saw - not buy - it. I need 2380 euro more before I
can have it. :(
After I held the camera in my hands, this is
no. no. yes. don't know. sure.
CW
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: *ist D aftermath
So, big question to all *istD owners:
After having purchased and used your new DSLR, are there any
for the film cameras, if i have to take one lens and only one, it's almost
always the 24-90. if i can take two, it is the 24-90 and the FA* 24 f2.0. i
then use the 24 most of the time. the 15-30 is bulky enough that for the
*ist D, i still end up taking the 24-90 and the 24 as my first and second
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:46:45 -0500, Herb Chong wrote:
i have the auto review turned off. i review only when i think there might be
a problem. since that doesn't happen very often, i save battery power by not
having it on except when i need it.
Herb,
Are you using the CR-V3 batteries? I have
I would stick the liths in you pack/car as an emergency backup - their
charge lasts 10 years(ish), and get onto the nimh batts now.
-Original Message-
From: Leon Altoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 November 2003 11:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: istD Histogram display
Hi Guys,
Does anybody know of a retailer that sells Beseler spares?
Ideally somebody who knows how to use email andoesn't mind shipping
internationally. I need a new O ring for the 35mm negatrans which came
with my recently acquired 45M (thanks again Rob S for the tip!). There
doesn't seem
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11 Nov 2003 at 17:48, William Robb wrote:
I expect this is why it's another non first for Pentax.
It's only at that price point because it has Leica printed on it, it will
probably be made in Portugal too.
I'll bet it never ends up b3ing made anywhere
This article might be of interest:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/14-vs-16.shtml
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Me too. RE: Autofocus sensor, I'm a focus and reocmpose kinda guy.
And, to be honest, I've gone back to MF most of the time.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12 Nov 2003 at 7:33, Mark Roberts wrote:
I'll bet it never ends up b3ing made anywhere - at least not in
production. I'll be surprised if a working prototype is ever shown.
I'm not convinced either however Leica have a well founded history of actually
listening and servicing their
It just seems to me that the timing between the two flashes is just about
perfect to result in pictures of people with their eyes closed. Has anyone
noticed that besides me?
Len
---
* There's no place like 127.0.0.1
If you use a non A lens it reverts to TTL. The double flash can be a
pain in
Hi everybody!
I had the opportunity to use a 17-35/2.8 L over the weekend. And now I'm hooked. Is
the difference between 17mm and 20mm worth going to a 3rd party lens and do any of you
have any suggestions (of lenses you own or owned). I'm not a landscape kind of
person. I was using the
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Heiko, I have the Sigma EX 14mm 2.8 and use it on my D60, giving an
effective focal length of 22.4mm. On an *ist D it should work out to
about 21mm.
That's a good hint. Maybe I was focused on wide angle zooms, too much.
Ah, zooms. I never considered a
P-TTL can have that effect on people who are prone to blink. Not only
does the first flash seem to signal for them to blink, but I have
found sound can also cause it. When using leaf shutter lenses on my
67, the focal plane shutter opens first, which causes a noise, then
the leaf shutter and
-Original Message-
From: Daichi Saeki (QA/EMC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everybody!
Hi.
I had the opportunity to use a 17-35/2.8 L over the
weekend. And now I'm hooked. Is the difference between
17mm and 20mm worth going to a 3rd party lens and do any of
you have any
- Original Message -
From: Leonard Paris
Subject: Re: AF360FGZ Question
It just seems to me that the timing between the two flashes is just about
perfect to result in pictures of people with their eyes closed. Has
anyone
noticed that besides me?
Happens with flash based red-eye
Rob wrote:
RS I'm not convinced either however Leica have a well founded history of actually
RS listening and servicing their customers.
Point to Leica and aim to Pentax. ;o)
Servus, Alin
When I saw the subject, I thought you were alerting us to some terror warning.
I'd be up for getting together, maybe next week. Have you heard from anyone else in
DC?
Geoff
I am taking a trip north this week.
I will be in Maryland the 13th, 17th, 18th, and 19th. There is a chance I
will
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, big question to all *istD owners:
After having purchased and used your new DSLR, are there any of you
who now have second thoughts? Perhaps wishing you had gone the Canon
or Nikon route instead? Given the opportunity
Hi,
Bruce D wrote:
Seems odd. One of mine - bought in the retail channel from BH had
the problem. I seriously doubt that it was a beta tester. It was
packaged and sold as new by a reputable dealer. The problem was
posted on the Pentax website with serial #'s and a way to test if your
Just played with it briefly.
Shot comparable pictures with it and the FAJ 18-35 at the widest end. With
the sun inside the frame, the FA20-35 flared considerably less, and had less
glare. The difference in AOV between 18 and 20 mm was minimal.
Jostein
-
Pictures at:
The use of AA's was one of the selling points for me. I already had about 5
sets of batteries and 2 chargers. However, I recently picked up one of the
new Ray-O-Vac 15 minute chargers and 6 batteries for it.
I saw those advertised, but my local store only had the 1-hour chargers.
Still, I
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
3 - Over time I have changed all my lenses to AF and picked-up what I would
call the pro stuff so results have met all my expectations.
Ah, er, I mean, erm
Doesn't have the same connotations on this side of the pond :-)
In the UK, the
På 11. nov. 2003 kl. 21.27 skrev wendy beard:
Someone on one of the mailing lists I'm on needed photographs for one
of the
chapters in her soon to be published book. One of the stipulations
from the
publisher was that they were not to be digital photographs as they
didn't
reproduce well.
They do.
I got one with my 600mm FA.
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:17:59 -0500, Andre Langevin
wrote:
150mm for 4/600 and 8/1200
The 150mm is EUR 549 - which is reasonable, compared
to the price of
the lenses
it fits...
Sven
For what these lenses cost, Pentax should give it with
the
I saw those advertised, but my local store only had the 1-hour chargers.
Still, I reckoned that was probably good enough; I can recharge a set of
batteries while I'm out using up the first set.
What's the capacity of the 15-minute cells? I've got mostly 1800 mAh for
my one-hours, although
BTW, I also have a 400 watt inverter that I can use with the chargers as
well as the laptop and printer while I'm in the field.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Batteries, was Re:
IIRC the term hooker for prostitutes came about because of the camp
followers of US War of Northern Aggression general Hooker.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: *ist D aftermath
Cesar Matamoros II wrote:
I will be in Maryland the 13th, 17th, 18th, and 19th.
There is a chance I will be busy the 19th.
Have rental car, will travel.
Hope we can get some of the DCPDML, and anyone else,
together while I am up there.
I'm probably good for some Dogfish on the 17th, 18th,
It happens to me too. I think Pentax got it just right to achieve
closed eyes effect when using P-TTL. OTOH, it seem as well that after
two or three consecutive shots taken in P-TTL closed eyes don't
appear so often on the following shots. Looks to me that eyes get so
used to the flashing that
Because everyone really wants to live in Oklahoma.
Hooker, Oklahoma, that is.
One swimmin' pool (I think), no movie stars (that I know of).
CRB
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:26:52 -0500 (EST)
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(another trivia question: why 'hooker'?)
I wrote to PhaseOne and asked if they had plans to support raw files from
other makes than Canon and Nikon, and Pentax in particular. All I got back
was a vague message about them looking at several brands at the moment.
Jostein
-
Pictures at: http://oksne.net
Hallo
and now the good use, the lens is already there.
How to get a Wide Angle Zoom Pentax smc-DA 3.5-4.5/15-26
out of the F 3.5-4.5/17-28 Fisheye-Zoom with PTLens
Here a detailled explaination with pictures (sorry, up to now only in
German, but you can look at the pictures)
Extra brownie points for the correct answer; what was Natasha's last name?
Fatale.
Brownie points hereby awarded.
Butch
Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.
Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Have seen statements suggesting NiMh batteries lose 1%-2% of their
charge a day. Can't remember how good the source was. Maybe someone
else has more accurate numbers.
Otis Wright
Bill Owens wrote:
I saw those advertised, but my local store only had the 1-hour chargers.
Still, I reckoned
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
3 - Over time I have changed all my lenses to AF and picked-up what I
would
call the pro stuff so results have met all my expectations.
Ah, er, I mean, erm
Doesn't have the same connotations on this side of the pond :-)
In the UK, the word
Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This reminds me of Michael Reichman's gripe about using AA batteries and
having to carry a charger if you used NiMh batteries. He prefers a
proprietary rechargeable.
I thought that part of his review was really bizarre. The multiple power
supply options are
I had a word with a salesman at the Norwegian distributor about the Pentax
marketing strategy.
I mentioned the sexist fuss from Sweden and California, and pointed at the
Optio 550 promo on the wall.
He just shook his head and smiled in a kinda sad way.
Then he went to a shelf with other leaflets
Weired story, Wendy.
OTOH, a renowned nature photographer in Norway had an article coming up in a
German photo mag, and the editor asked him for a slide. As the guy works
with digital, he said he could send the raw file if they wanted. But alas,
the mag wanted slides and slides only, so he ended
You know, I am going to take back what I said.
(...)
I can't really say that I *have* tried long distance shots with a SMC lens
without a UV filter and then with one. It's quite possible the SMC coating
does work like a UV filter.
Marnie aka Doe
Fine... That will save me the weight of a few
Excellent Bill.
I would like to add that all designs are trade offs. To get one thing, you have
to give up something else. Pentax mostly has, since I've been using them (1961),
balanced things to the best look in the final print. Unfortunately, many
manufactures seem to balance things for the
William Robb wrote:
For me, it was a decision based on looking at pictures, not charts or
spec sheets.
And =THAT'S= what it's ALL about or at least, it's supposed to be
--
Later,
Gary
Does anyone have any hands-on with the Tamron 90-300 f/4.5~5.6 AF lens?
Looking at one for my grand daughter so I'm not looking to spend a ton
but do want something that's decent enough to use for sports photography
that may end up being used in her school annual since she is on the
Annual
When I used to snipe manually, I won a few auctions with
one second left, but get this, one time I won with ZERO
seconds left. Thats right, the time of the bid matched
the end time, to the second. In the event of a tie,
YOU WIN!
JCO
You win? The first to have bid the amount wins, no? In this
Jostein wrote:
Weired story, Wendy.
OTOH, a renowned nature photographer in Norway had an article coming up in a
German photo mag, and the editor asked him for a slide. As the guy works
with digital, he said he could send the raw file if they wanted. But alas,
the mag wanted slides and
I've never done a lot of sports photo work, but my first reaction is that
that sounds like kind of a slow lens for what might be low light conditions.
I've also always heard that rule of thumb is usually a max of 200mm for hand
held.
- Original Message -
From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL
I agree with Dave in principle but, looking at the photos that we chose to
put in my high school yearbooks ( I was on the staff), anything where one
can kind-of recognize the subject is probably good enough. :)
I can't imagine now, some thirteen years later (yes, I'm THAT young), what
the heck we
The things you learn on this list!! vbg
thanks, Butch,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
Major General Joseph Hooker was head of the Army of the Potomac during
Hi, Shel,
Welcome back, even if your stay will be brief.
We missed ya here!
cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
much sooner than I thought.
fanfare
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html
Mutley
Cheers,
Cotty
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On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
3 - Over time I have changed all my lenses to AF and picked-up what I
would
call the pro stuff so results have met all my expectations.
Ah, er, I mean, erm
Doesn't have the same connotations on this side of the pond :-)
In the UK, the word
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree with Dave in principle but, looking at the photos
that we chose to
put in my high school yearbooks ( I was on the staff),
anything where one
can kind-of recognize the subject is probably good enough. :)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bucky) wrote:
OK, so my Tokina 28-80 ATX Pro is a bit soft and big and heavy for the
*ist D. Are any of the Pentax zooms in that range (with the exception
of the FA* 28-70 f/2.8, which I cannot afford at present) particular
standouts?
I
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob
Studdert) wrote:
It's only at that price point because it has Leica printed on it, it
will probably be made in Portugal too.
The sensor won't be. Since in my day job I play with high-end computer
chips (Itanium, Opteron, Power4, etc.) I
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Bruce Dayton) wrote:
After having purchased and used your new DSLR, are there any of you
who now have second thoughts? Perhaps wishing you had gone the Canon
or Nikon route instead? Given the opportunity to do it again, would
you still
Why, it was Natasha Fatale, of course! vbg
cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
Extra brownie points for the correct answer; what was Natasha's last name?
You're treading on very thin ice with all this ear talk, Cotty!
Very thin ice...
vbg
-frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
I'm all ears :-)
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
There are four young German women who run the whole campaign. We met them
at Photokina 2002. They got into the picture after photokina 2000, and
blamed Pentax for not targetting their real market with their
ultra-traditional and un-trendy marketing. They
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
When I used to snipe manually, I won a few auctions with
one second left, but get this, one time I won with ZERO
seconds left. Thats right, the time of the bid matched
the end time, to the second. In the event of a tie,
YOU WIN!
JCO
You win? The
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I've never done a lot of sports photo work, but my first reaction is that
that sounds like kind of a slow lens for what might be low light conditions.
I've also always heard that rule of thumb is usually a max of 200mm for hand
held.
Dave Miers, say
The things you learn on this list!! vbg
thanks, Butch,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
Major General Joseph Hooker was head of the Army of the Potomac during
On 12 Nov 2003 at 14:37, Gary L. Murphy wrote:
William Robb wrote:
For me, it was a decision based on looking at pictures, not charts or
spec sheets.
And =THAT'S= what it's ALL about or at least, it's supposed to be
Depends how critical you are, nearly any current digicam
i use some 1800mAh NiMH batteries i have from some things i did a while ago
and i have a set of 2000mAh ones too. the CR-V3 batteries are in the bag for
just in case. if i have to break them out, it is because i am on an extended
trip away from any power to charge my batteries with. just wandering
On 12 Nov 2003 at 23:05, John Dallman wrote:
A McKinley Itanium is about 400 square millimetres, and sold for about
$3500 each, in quantities of a thousand. The APS-sized sensor in the *istD
is around the same size, and sells for about $700 in the same quantities.
In both cases, you have
moving changes the size relationships between different parts of the
composition in a different way than zooming. it't more noticeable with wide
angles. i zoom specifically to get certain things in certain size relation
to each other in the composition about as often as i zoom to fit everything
in
yes. the difference being that proprietary batteries usally are smaller and
lighter for a given capacity. me? the batteries for a day's worth of my
shooting aren't nearly as much as the memory and lenses.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
SHEL!
we missed ya!
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
(And my little Sony PS)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:02:30 -0800
Hi gang ...
and then continued,
More likely, We made our rules 10 years ago and see no reason to change them.
--
Jostein wrote:
Weired story, Wendy.
OTOH, a renowned nature photographer in Norway had an article coming up in a
German photo mag, and the editor asked him for a slide. As the guy works
with digital, he said he
OTOH, I have hear persistant rumors of an upcoming Nikon F6.
--
Bill Owens wrote:
I would be quite surprised if Pentax, or any other manufacturer, were to
release any more high end 35mm SLR's. I look for a less expensive DSLR,
then possibly an upgraded Igital*Dist. IMNHO, the days of high end
Oh? That's the problem! MXen tend to sulk when they have to compete for
affection against an LX. (GRIN)
jmb wrote:
Graywolf,
Well, I bought it used with a winder. The winder works and even has the
tab to hold the battery door closed! The shutter speeds sound fine.
I'll have to test it
Hallo
infos on the coming DA16-45 are on
http://www.aohc.it/pressrelease/lns0308e.htm
regards
Rüdiger
-
Von: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you, Rüdiger. It appears that you have more information than the
rest of us about the forthcoming DA 16-45 (such as dimensions, filter
size). Is
IS ??? I might be having a blond moment here, but I'll bite...what or who
is that..lol.
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Tamron
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I've
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:26:52 -0500 (EST), John Francis wrote:
(another trivia question: why 'hooker'?)
US (Union) General Joseph Hooker during the US Civil War.
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
At 06:11 PM 12/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
But if it really is just incompetence at the publisher
level (or non-up to dateness) where Wendy was submitting, she surely has the
savvy to get around it by making a
hi res file and getting it printed though a digi-lab , yes?
annsan
Very cunning!
Actually,
fanfare
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html
Mutley
Cheers,
Cotty
Hey, Cotty, totally kewl.
Marnie aka Doe Except you used third world workers, after all. :-)
Been around...always shooting the Pentax (or my Russian cams),
but I joined back tonite because I got my new *ist-D next to me!
I am so pleased! Every lens I own will work on it!
Rephrase, I can use every lens I own to take photos on it!
Ofcourse the A, FA, KAF, KAF2 work as expected.
My manual
Hi Everyone.
It looks cool, but I have no idea what happend to cause the light streaks in
this photo
www3.telus.net/public/gregpics/
I finally developed a roll of film that had been in my MZ-3 since summer
(don't use it much since I got a Z-1P). This photo is from July 1st - Canada
Day. I was on
Grey wrote:
It looks cool, but I have no idea what happend to cause the light streaks in
this photo
www3.telus.net/public/gregpics/
It's interesting, even if a mistake.
Ghosts?
I would guess you got the sliding door in the picture (shooting through it)
and the light streaks are actually
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