Re: Bailing out.

Hi! > I have found that so far, the only real impact a DSLR has had on the > way I make photographs is that I shoot more "protection" when using low > shutter speeds or very narrow depth of field. So I fire off a few > extra frames just in case, where before I wouldn't waste the film. > > Otherwi

Re: March Madness

On 26/3/06, Powell Hargrave, discombobulated, unleashed: >>I might stick the camera and 15mm lens on the bird table (camouflaged) for >>some interesting angles on the tits. > >Hmmm... Well endowed British "birds" I hope! > >Powell - salivating in anticipation Gadam communist prevert! Che

Fuji Press 800 vs Fuji NPZ - was Which High Speed Film etc.

Hi Aaron Somewhere in the back of my mind I recall someone telling me that Superia was the same as anothe Fuji "pro" film. I've used the 800 Fuji Press for several years at concerts and have always been happy with it, mostly because I convert it into b&w in PhotoShop. Most recently a salespers

RE: Using a two axis rail as a substitute for custom pano heads - crazy or viable with modest lens lengths?

On 27 Mar 2006 at 7:39, Jens Bladt wrote: > Very nice Rob. But isn't this just as expensive as getting a Kaidan Kiwi > head? It depends, I had a Kaidan Kiwi+ years ago and it was, lets say, inadequate at best, I view it as poor value. It had too much slop and flexure and wasn't at all easy to s

Re: Bailing out.

Ken wrote: There is indeed the joy of using your tool to "create" good photos being taken away by the digital process, and perhaps that's what the experienced people are feeling. Much of what I read from film enthusiasts defending their passion involves an implied or explicit criticism of the

Re: Bailing out.

On Mar 26, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: 2. Fast forward to digital era, I have a feeling that what people talking about here as "art" is mostly the post-processing work flow, particularly the PS manipulation. I am not sure if this is truly the "art' part... The art of photogr

RE: Tersting a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP)

Having fun is still the most improtant thing, Tim ;-) Does photographs from the Zoo count? I'm afraid they took all the birds indoors because of the current bird flue thing ;-( Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sen

RE: Using a two axis rail as a substitute for custom pano heads - crazy or viable with modest lens lengths?

Very nice Rob. But isn't this just as expensive as getting a Kaidan Kiwi head? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. marts 2006 05:44 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Using a two axis rail as a sub

Re: Bailing out.

On Mar 27, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: It would take great amount of self-discipline to: 1. Do as much as possible with the camera. 2. Do only raw processing and then spend no more than 5 min per photo in PS which would be roughly equal to whatever averaging the mini-lab does.

Re: Rollei

A proud and beautiful dog person. My condolences for your loss. Godfrey "Only in silence the word, only in dark the light, only in dying, life; bright the hawk's flight on the empty sky." - Song of Ea, by Ursula K LeGuin On Mar 25, 2006, at 5:55 PM, William Robb wrote: My first attempt

Re: Which high speed film for indoor shots ? was:RE: How do you select your camera for the day? was

On Mar 26, 2006, at 11:05 PM, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Aaron thanks a lot for these impressive examples and the other postings, it does help me a lot. But showing me some 6x7 format shots was a bit cruel, how should I ever like my "grainy 35mm sauces" again? See, I'm enabling you. You mus

Re: Bailing out.

Hi! Let me chime in. Next time it won't be allowed - you're all too wise ;-). Nevertheless, to the most amateur enthusiasts, they do not take up the chemical process part as a hobby. This is an individual choice. I totally agree. 2. Fast forward to digital era, I have a feeling that wha

Re: OT: New EC law forces Hasselblad to discontinue XPan camera

On 27 Mar 2006 at 14:56, Leon Altoff wrote: > Rob, > > From what I have been reading the lead free solder is more brittle than > solder with lead and more likely to suffer failures. One report I read > said that adding zinc to tin/silver/copper alloy solder made the break > jagged instead of

RE: PESO - A pretty bird!

It must be quite a good lens! Full aperture often give away lenses that aren't that good ;-) I'm surprised you could get this close! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Coyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 26. marts 2006 23:49 Til: pentax-discuss

Re: Bailing out.

One of my favourite comic strips of all time has a child doing his homework. He looks up and says, "Dad, what's Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle?" The father pauses, puts down his newspaper and says, "I don't know." -Aaron On Mar 26, 2006, at 10:52 PM, Gautam Sarup wrote: Heisenberg Unce

Re: PAW - My Friend's Kitchen

On Mar 26, 2006, at 10:13 PM, frank theriault wrote: Ah, the organized chaos of those artistic types: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4260706&size=lg Frank, are you sure that it's YOUR friend's kitchen? http://aaronreynolds.ca/gallery/Halifax/kitchen_RVP_portfolio That's my sister-

Re: OT: New EC law forces Hasselblad to discontinue XPan camera

Rob, From what I have been reading the lead free solder is more brittle than solder with lead and more likely to suffer failures. One report I read said that adding zinc to tin/silver/copper alloy solder made the break jagged instead of clean and enabled the join to continue to function. It

Re: PESO - A Very Special Store

Shel Belinkoff wrote: What do you do with annoying children? Maybe you wanted a boy and got a girl? Perhaps you're at your wits end and don't know what to do with the little troublemaker ... http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/reseller.html Shel It can be soo tempting ... I s

Re: OT - Apartment Buildings with Names

On 3/25/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:. It feels uncomfortable to have the top > part cut off, and the slight distortion is disturbing. I think you need to > get your parallels parallel for this type of thing to work. I think you may be right. Better invest in a view camera, so I can move t

Re: March Madness

At 10:00 AM 26/03/2006 , Cotty wrote: >I might stick the camera and 15mm lens on the bird table (camouflaged) for >some interesting angles on the tits. Hmmm... Well endowed British "birds" I hope! Powell - salivating in anticipation

Re: PAW - My Friend's Kitchen

Yeah, I like this one. The lighting is nice and how things are arranged works. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, March 26, 2006, 7:13:02 PM, you wrote: ft> Ah, the organized chaos of those artistic types: ft> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4260706&size=lg ft> ft> Hope you enjoy. Th

RE: Which high speed film for indoor shots ? was:RE: How do you select your camera for the day? was

Hi Aaron thanks a lot for these impressive examples and the other postings, it does help me a lot. But showing me some 6x7 format shots was a bit cruel, how should I ever like my "grainy 35mm sauces" again? in which regard is the 800/1600 "Press" series of Fuji better than the normal "Superia"? g

Re: Rollei

Sorry to hear that. Gautam On 3/25/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My first attempt at a Powerpoint slide show. > Apologies to those who can't access it. All pictures were shot with Pentax > cameras and lenses. > > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/rollei.pps > > William Robb > > >

Re: Bailing out.

Your explanation is certainly very clear. Thank you. No smiley. Paul On Mar 26, 2006, at 10:52 PM, Gautam Sarup wrote: The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states that increasing the accuracy of measurement of the position of a particle decreases the accuracy with which it's momentum can be dete

Re: Bailing out.

On a PC running Windows at that. :) On 3/26/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cotty wrote: > > >On 26/3/06, Gautam Sarup, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >>I spend 8-10 hours a day in front > >>of a computer and I greatly enjoy that. > > > >Mark! > > Come on now. I'm not putting anyt

Re: Using a two axis rail as a substitute for custom pano heads - crazy or viable with modest lens lengths?

On 26 Mar 2006 at 22:43, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I understand the two-axis rail as a means for locating the camera at > the nodal point. Is the purpose of the L bracket to allow for vertical > placement of the camera? I can see how that would be nice in terms of > being able to achieve a larger

Re: PAW - My Friend's Kitchen

Interesting in terms of what's hanging on the wall. And I guess I'd say that makes it an interesting photo:-). It's different enough to make me thing about it. Paul On Mar 26, 2006, at 10:13 PM, frank theriault wrote: Ah, the organized chaos of those artistic types: http://photo.net/photodb/p

Re: Bailing out.

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states that increasing the accuracy of measurement of the position of a particle decreases the accuracy with which it's momentum can be determined at the same instance and vice versa. Simply stated: - More accurate measure of position implies less accurate mea

RE: OT - Apartment Buildings with Names

Hi Frank Have you considered showing somebody who lives on the house with it. Without they do look a bit sad for me but maybe thats the effect you want? greetings Markus >>-Original Message- >>From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:37 AM >>To: pent

RE: PAW - My Friend's Kitchen

Hi Frank I really like this PESO but the question remains: how good does he cook? He has quite a lot of kitchen equipment so he **could** be a "food artist". very well done. greetings Markus >>> [Original Message] >>> From: frank theriault >> >>> Ah, the organized chaos of those artistic types: >

Re: Using a two axis rail as a substitute for custom pano heads - crazy or viable with modest lens lengths?

I understand the two-axis rail as a means for locating the camera at the nodal point. Is the purpose of the L bracket to allow for vertical placement of the camera? I can see how that would be nice in terms of being able to achieve a larger vertical dimension. Paul On Mar 26, 2006, at 8:14 PM,

Re: PESO - A Very Special Store

On 3/26/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you do with annoying children? Maybe you wanted a boy and got a > girl? Perhaps you're at your wits end and don't know what to do with the > little troublemaker ... > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/reseller.html > > > ROTFL

Re: March Madness

On 3/25/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well the best portrait photographers do not look through the viewfinder, > but set up things so they can interact with the sitter and pop away > without the sitter often even being aware that the shot was taken. > Catching the moment is what is impo

RE: PAW - My Friend's Kitchen

So, that's where my spatula disappeared to ... thanks for finding it, Frank ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault > Ah, the organized chaos of those artistic types: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4260706&size=lg

PESO - A Very Special Store

What do you do with annoying children? Maybe you wanted a boy and got a girl? Perhaps you're at your wits end and don't know what to do with the little troublemaker ... http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/reseller.html Shel

PAW - My Friend's Kitchen

Ah, the organized chaos of those artistic types: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4260706&size=lg Hope you enjoy. Thanks in advance for any comments, good, bad or otherwise. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Bailing out.

Can't take credit for it, that's pure Philip K. Dick (who also said "Robots have worse troubles than anybody"). -Aaron -Original Message- From: "E.R.N. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: Bailing out. Date: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:50 pm Size: 139 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Aaro

Re: Bailing out.

Colin J wrote: Aaron Reynolds: Why is one a craft and one a science? ... because that is my perception. They're both craft and science. ... and that is yours! I was merely expressing my opinion. It differs from yours. I respect yours but I don't agree with it. If that bothers you, t

Re: Bailing out.

Colin J wrote: Photography is a craft. Digital imaging is a science. Working at a craft is infinitely more satisfying, and I think it's a lot more fun. Working at science is just a chore. Bullshit and crap! If film scratches your itch, fine! If it's digital, fine! Both, fine! These are p

RE: PESO: Noisy Miner (Take 2)

:-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Brian Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27. mars 2006 02:18 > To: pentax-discuss

Re: Using a two axis rail as a substitute for custom pano heads - crazy or viable with modest lens lengths?

On 26 Mar 2006 at 19:19, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Thanks to you and Rob for this. Good information. Which is always much > better than digital/film or full frame/APS-C debates :-) My pano set-up, "L" bracket care of Dave S. http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP8091.jpg Parallax error

RE: PESO: Telegraph Road

I like it. Very clean composition BTW. I also had a look at the photosight.ru pages. I really wish I had an umbrella thingy like the one you have at "avator" picture. A cute setup. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very fre

Re: Bailing out.

than what matters? whining here on the list? best, mishka On 3/26/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No ... and that's been stated here several times in several ways. > > William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > That's the mentality that says that all that matters is the finish

Re: Bailing out.

Mark Roberts wrote: I well remember some of my various realizations that other people see things in some fundamentally different ways. But true flamebait lurksin that territory so I won't go there! Mark, modesty had better not forbid the inclusion of this one.

Re: Bailing out.

Bob W wrote: Constant repitition doesn't make something true. Mark! One more!

Re: Bailing out.

Aaron Reynolds wrote: Come on, we all know that reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, does not go away. Oh, Mark ... !

Re: PESO - For Shel

I think a double truck 32"x8' print would look great between the windows on the back wall of my gallery. William Robb You lost me. Apparently you're speaking some ancient Canadian dialect. Care to translate? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Using a two axis rail as a substitute for custom pano heads - crazy or viable with modest lens lengths?

Thanks to you and Rob for this. Good information. Which is always much better than digital/film or full frame/APS-C debates :-) Paul On Mar 26, 2006, at 6:45 PM, David Savage wrote: G'day Lon, In my experience the "nodal" point is actually in front of the aperture blades. Here is my Pano se

PESO: Noisy Miner (Take 2)

Hi all Most of the comments on the earlier image suggested that the cropping was a bit tight. Here's another version with a bit more space at the top (it's actually uncropped - not sure why I thought I needed to crop the earlier one). Anyway - the first version is at the top - the new one is bel

Re: OT: New EC law forces Hasselblad to discontinue XPan camera

On 26 Mar 2006 at 9:08, William Robb wrote: > Even if they weren't, there are manufacturing changes required to switch > from lead solder to silver solder. If Fuji didn't think they were going to > recoup the cost of change of manufacturing, then that would have left > Hasselblad with no camera

Re: FotoExpress - One man's mobile photo studio

Wonder what he does when it rains? Water colors? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FotoExpress - One man's mobile photo studio - Original Message - From: "Charles Robinson" Subject: Re: FotoExpress - One man's mob

Re: Bailing out.

On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 08:00:51AM -0500, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > On Mar 26, 2006, at 7:20 AM, Colin J wrote: > > >I couldn't agree more. Digital is powerful and > >versatile. But it's a chore. I didn't take up > >photography to be tied to a computer. You might > >be able to do much more wi

Re: Using a two axis rail as a substitute for custom pano heads - crazy or viable with modest lens lengths?

G'day Lon, In my experience the "nodal" point is actually in front of the aperture blades. Here is my Pano setup (copied off Rob Studdert) and my addition to make it usable in both the landscape & portrait orientation: And this is a

Re: Bailing out.

On 3/27/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, I object to being told that I am not creative, but instead a > technician. Why do you feel I should not be insulted by that? Here are the > relevant passages, word for word: > --- > Photography is a craft. Digital imaging is a > sc

Re: Bailing out.

On 3/26/06 4:57 PM, "Bruce Dayton", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somehow, I get the feeling that some, myself included in the past, > didn't ever do the darkroom part. So they just shot the film and let > the lab do the remaining part of the work flow. At my lab, that is > still available in dig

Re: The Pond

Hi Bill, It's at the Johnson Nature Center on Franklin between Long Lake and Square Lake. This pond is on the stream that's on the north border of the property. I frequently go there to shoot birds, and, in the summer, dragonflies. Nice place, although it's only 18 acres. Paul On Mar 26, 2006,

RE: The Pond

Hi Paul, Where is this? I don't recognize it - it doesn't appear to be the one on Square Lake near Telegraph. And are you saying you'll be doing a show there? Keep the good work coming Bill Sawyer Livonia, MI -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: S

Re: PESO: Telegraph Road

Nice, Good composition. Good "feel" to the shot Dave Quoting "Ralf R. Radermacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Been trying to decide what to upload next while I was listening to some old Dire Straits album and browsing through a series of pictures taken a few weeks ago on a leisurely stroll through f

Re: Bailing out.

Mark Roberts wrote: > > Colin J wrote: > > >Aaron Reynolds: > >> > >> Why is one a craft and one a science? > > > >... because that is my perception. > > Are you actually saying that *your* perception > of something determines > reality??? No, of course not. My perception helps to inform my

PESO 25 Year Anniversary

http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=25years.jpg Another shot of the old farm we used to rent, only this time its a family shot. 25 years ago this month we moved to Stouffville and our daughter was born here in 83. After taking the memoir shots last month i thought it wou

Re: Bailing out.

At 04:57 PM 3/26/2006, Bruce Dayton wrote: Somehow, I get the feeling that some, myself included in the past, didn't ever do the darkroom part. So they just shot the film and let the lab do the remaining part of the work flow. That was certainly true when I shot Kodachrome! :)

Re: PESO: Telegraph Road

Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very nice. The building looks like our transformer buildings (now long > gone). This is a transformer building. There are dozens like this one in the region and it looks as if many of them were still in use. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Kö

Re: PESO: Telegraph Road

Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if it was that bright then but for my monitor > settings (Eizo CRT) I would try to darken the photo a bit. Oh, anyone else to confirm this? I've just recalibrated my monitor and now you have me wondering if anything might have gone wrong.

Re: Bailing out.

Cotty wrote: >On 26/3/06, Gautam Sarup, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I spend 8-10 hours a day in front >>of a computer and I greatly enjoy that. > >Mark! Come on now. I'm not putting anything that perverted in the quotes list!

Re: Bailing out.

On 26/3/06, Gautam Sarup, discombobulated, unleashed: >I spend 8-10 hours a day in front >of a computer and I greatly enjoy that. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

RE: Rollei

She looks like a mighty fine dog. Sorry for your loss. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Rollei

My condolenses. Nice slide show - a beautiful tribute to Rollei. I'm sure Rollei had a wonderful life. Be greatfull for this. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 26. marts 2006 03:55 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne:

Re: Telegraph Road

I like it. Reminds me of a movie I saw once... or maybe it was a book... Might have been an episode of the old W.W.II TV show "Combat!"...are those small towers common there? CW - Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Mailingliste" Sent: S

RE: PESO: Telegraph Road

Very nice. The building looks like our transformer buildings (now long gone). I guess they are actually listed buildings now. Nicely done. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Ralf R. Radermacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 26. marts 2006 22:19 Til:

Re: Bailing out.

Somehow, I get the feeling that some, myself included in the past, didn't ever do the darkroom part. So they just shot the film and let the lab do the remaining part of the work flow. At my lab, that is still available in digital, if you want to pay for it. Basically I can take my jpgs in just l

RE: Bailing out.

> > >HAR!!! > >At 02:00 PM 3/26/2006, William Robb wrote: > >> > >>>Reality is. > >> > >>Reality both is, and is not. > >> > >>All things are and are not, within the same time and space. > > > Remember, that's actually "HAR!!!" and "not HAR!!!" -- at the > same time, and in the same space. ;)

Re: Bailing out.

On Mar 26, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: I agree that there aren't any certainties! how can you be so sure? Mr. Heisenberg assured me that this is the case. Yeah, and I stopped by Schrödinger's house on the way home from Werner's place, but couldn't tell if he w

RE: Bailing out.

> -Original Message- > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 March 2006 22:50 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Bailing out. > > Bob W wrote: > > >> I agree that there aren't any certainties! > > > >how can you be so sure? > > Mr. Heisenberg assured me that

Re: Bailing out.

At 04:17 PM 3/26/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: HAR!!! At 02:00 PM 3/26/2006, William Robb wrote: Reality is. Reality both is, and is not. All things are and are not, within the same time and space. Remember, that's actually "HAR!!!" and "not HAR!!!" -- at the same time, and in the same s

Re: DFA lenses

On 2006-03-26, at 19:36, Dario Bonazza wrote: 1 - Provided that the D2 will sport KAF3 mount, capable to drive USM lenses, my idea is that the D2 will include a rather weak AF motor (at best, the same used in previous D-series, or maybe even a weaker type), as it could be seen (by Pentax, n

Re: PESO - A pretty bird!

Thanks for the comment Jens. I had it set to f5.6 (maximum aperture) as the time was early morning and the light in the shade of the trees was not brilliant! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 4

Re: Bailing out.

Bob W wrote: >> I agree that there aren't any certainties! > >how can you be so sure? Mr. Heisenberg assured me that this is the case.

Re: Bailing out.

On Mar 26, 2006, at 1:53 PM, William Robb wrote: So? You're saying the digital process can't be art? That's highly prejudiced nonsense. No, I am not saying that. Don't presume to imply a meaning to something that I didn't say, and then assign those words to me. I am saying that the fina

RE: PESO: Telegraph Road

Hi Ralf I like your PESO.I don't know if it was that bright then but for my monitor settings (Eizo CRT) I would try to darken the photo a bit. Maybe this is a stupid question but why don't you publish your photos on your own website to promote it a bit instead of showing them on photosight? To get

RE: Bailing out.

> > >That being said, I do not believe there is anything under > the veil that > >we perceive as reality except a nebulous cloud of > probabilities. There > >are no certainties. > > I agree that there aren't any certainties! > how can you be so sure? Bob

Re: Bailing out.

On Mar 26, 2006, at 10:43 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Bailing out. It's the statement of "I prefer the analog process" coupled with a long winded rationalization of why the digital process is fundamentally unsatisfying,

Re: Bailing out.

HAR!!! At 02:00 PM 3/26/2006, William Robb wrote: Reality is. Reality both is, and is not. All things are and are not, within the same time and space.

Re: Bailing out.

Bob Shell wrote: >That being said, I do not believe there is anything under the veil >that we perceive as reality except a nebulous cloud of >probabilities. There are no certainties. I agree that there aren't any certainties! >I know that point of view is anathema to modern materialism,

Re: Bailing out.

At 02:00 PM 3/26/2006, William Robb wrote: Reality is. Reality both is, and is not. All things are and are not, within the same time and space.

Re: Bailing out.

On Mar 26, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Bob W wrote: Constant repitition doesn't make something true. It doesn't??? Gee whillikers, you learn something new every day! Bob

RE: Bailing out.

Constant repitition doesn't make something true. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 March 2006 21:05 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Bailing out. > > It's been repeated many times that there is no reality, only > p

Re: Bailing out.

On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:41 PM, graywolf wrote: Modern scientists claim there is an underlying reality whatever our perceptions. Not all modern scientists claim, or believe, that. Bob

Re: Bailing out.

On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: As Godfrey said, this is probably *too* far off-topic, even for the PDML ;-) But I feel very strongly that there *is* a reality, independent of what I or anyone else sees, hears or otherwise experiences. Getting at (or closer to) this is the goal

Re: Bailing out.

Come on, we all know that reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, does not go away. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: Bailing out. Date: Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:05 pm Size: 1K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net It's been repeated many times

Re: Bailing out.

Gautam Sarup wrote: >Or else, we all live in the same reality but have different >experiences. Experience changes the knowledge we have >and often how we evaluate things but not what exists >as such. Bingo.

PESO: Telegraph Road

Been trying to decide what to upload next while I was listening to some old Dire Straits album and browsing through a series of pictures taken a few weeks ago on a leisurely stroll through frosty Belgium. :-) http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1344831 Someone has asked, so for the benefit

Re: PESO: First Day of Spring

Nice shot. Good light. Excellent rendering of the highlights. Paul On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:46 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Looks like my backyard.:-) Nice shot. Dave Quoting George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: After an unusually dry and warm Winter, the Midwest was hit with several inches of snow

Re: Bailing out.

It's been repeated many times that there is no reality, only perception. Who would identify the scientifically claimed "fixed" reality? Jack --- graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well ancient Greek philosophers claim there was no reality without > perception. Modern scientists claim there

Re: Bailing out.

Kevin, I see things as you do. I spend 8-10 hours a day in front of a computer and I greatly enjoy that. However, for recreation I prefer to stay away. Cheers, Gautam On 3/25/06, Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In recent times, I seem to have lost the joy of photography. > What sta

Re: amazing film experience

Wow, would love to see it. Bob S. On 3/26/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yesterday I was able to experience something truly unusual in film. > No, this is not "film vs digital" or anything stupid like that. > > There is an Asian film festival happening in San Jose this weekend.

Re: Bailing out.

Or else, we all live in the same reality but have different experiences. Experience changes the knowledge we have and often how we evaluate things but not what exists as such. Cheers, Gautam On 3/26/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 26, 2006, at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >

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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, graywolf wrote: "Snap the shutter and leave the rest to us", Kodak Brownie ad of 1903 or so; and thus the snapshooter was born. In point of fact if you have no interest in the middle part you are a snapshooter (although snapshooters can produce interesting pictures), not a

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On Mar 26, 2006, at 1:53 PM, William Robb wrote: For some people, myself included, the picture (or whatever, it could be a clay pot for all I care) at the end is little more than a byproduct of the process. And some people are saying that the process determines whether one is creative or on

Re: PESO: First Day of Spring

Looks like my backyard.:-) Nice shot. Dave Quoting George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: After an unusually dry and warm Winter, the Midwest was hit with several inches of snow on the first day of Spring. This lawn sprinkler was parked outside and caught in the snow.

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Well ancient Greek philosophers claim there was no reality without perception. Modern scientists claim there is an underlying reality whatever our perceptions. So I guess that there is reality (fixed), and perception of reality (individual) both. Now that we are all as confused as I am... gra

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