Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...

2007-06-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Thibouille wrote: The lens data bug is caused by firmware 1.20 I've read on DpReview. Can't say more 'cos I run 1.10 no problem at all so far. I've got 4000 exposures made with all versions of the K10D firmware and all lenses, dating back to the beginning of

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Either the models are wrong or there aren't enough millions of years... graywolf wrote: Hard to accept that you are not somehow special, isn't it. Personally I believe random chance over millions of years is the simplest answer. -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs.

Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...

2007-06-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 13, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Thibouille wrote: The lens data bug is caused by firmware 1.20 I've read on DpReview. Can't say more 'cos I run 1.10 no problem at all so far. I've got 4000 exposures made with all versions of the K10D

Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad* microbreweries in NC?

2007-06-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
- Potassium metabisulfite to treat the chlorine/chloramine. Buying water sucks. I've found with my wine making that if I let tap water sit idle for a few days the chlorine gasses out. Don't know about chloramine though. Yeah, aerating and/or letting it sit and outgas for awhile

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Tom C
Go flip a quarter until it comes up heads 100 times in a row. Then get back to me on that. ;-) Tom C. From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted Date: Wed, 13

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread graywolf
I do not think evolution explains that first one cell life form. It has to be random chance, or intelligent design, or something we have never imagined. After that evolution is all that is needed, either it survives to reproduce or it doesn't. However random chance is the most likely

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread graywolf
Golly, you two do make my point well. GRIN -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bob W wrote: The most recent book I have about Neandertals is dated 1999, so it's too early for some of the

Re: PESO: Hot VW

2007-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
That's not a bug... Cotty wrote: On 13/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, it's bug day on the PDML Nice pic Paul. Here's another one from 10 days ago at GFM ;-) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread graywolf
Even as simple a search as Wikopedia shows that all this is still very much in dispute. The final argument seems to be that one side claims there was interbreeding and the other side says that was impossible because of DNA evidence, to which the other replies the samples were inadequate to

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote: Ah, so the problem is they are not getting what they think is their fair share of the US Dollars? Always interesting to get some insight to what lays under the propaganda and rabble rousing. Not exactly. The US and Libya have disliked each other since the late 18th

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread graywolf
Einstein very much believed in intelligent design. He also did not believe in Quantum Theory, although he was the guy that came up with it, and it made atomic energy possible, because it went against his personal beliefs. Scientists are not demigods, they are humans and no more infallible than

Re: Hot VW

2007-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Yep also called the Phony Phord. J. C. Whitney's used to sell the kits. John Francis wrote: Ever seen one of these? http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0722 On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:09:33PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ken. I bet it's a real hoot to drive, as long

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Tom C
Hoyle was also referring to the following... quote by Hoyle: The big problem in biology isn't so much the rather crude fact that a protein consists of a chain of amino acids linked together in a certain way, but that the explicit ordering of the amino acids endows the chain with remarkable

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread graywolf
How about I flip a quarter a hundred times and it comes up heads once? That is all that is needed. You apparently do not understand random chance any better than Hoyle. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof

Re: FS - K 200/2.5

2007-06-13 Thread Eric Featherstone
Hi Bruce, Just to let you know, the lens arrived in fine fettle yesterday. Many thanks. Best wishes, Eric. On 21/05/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My photographic needs have changed somewhat and this lens, much as I love it, is not getting much use. I had previously offered this

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/13/2007 9:58:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm completely in awe of people who presume that someone will invent a parachute after they've fallen off the cliff but before they hit the ground.. William Robb == Mark! Marnie aka Doe

Re: OT: ebay Power seller stuff

2007-06-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/06/07, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What say you, guys? Benefits and disadvantages ? I have no idea if the Gov't would be more interested in you but I did it a for a couple of years some years back and it was just a PITA. I don't believe that there was any real sales benefit

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Tom C
Exactly. When it comes down to origins, none of was around at the beginning. Some of us look at the evidence and believe there must have been a designer or creator. Others look at the evidence and reject that conclusion. Some start out with the belief that there was no designer and therefore

Re: EVOLUTION!

2007-06-13 Thread Bob Blakely
HAR! Regards, Bob Blakely - A mother takes twenty years to make a man of her boy, and another woman makes a fool of him in twenty minutes. - Robert Frost - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Tom C
No that's not all that is needed. For everything to work at the biological machine/cellular level numerous things have to all be lined up in advance and occur virtually simultaneously. We're not talking about something as simple as heads and tails (you know that). We're talking about about a

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread graywolf
Still it only has to happen once! And the odds of that chain happening are exactly the same as they are for any other viable chain. The problem with the intelligent design thing is that it multiplies the other; where in the hell did that intelligence come from. All you do is push Hoyles odds

Re: OT: ebay Power seller stuff

2007-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 14/06/07, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What say you, guys? Benefits and disadvantages ? I have no idea if the Gov't would be more interested in you but I did it a for a couple of years some years back and it was just a PITA. I don't believe

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread graywolf
The only problem with your theory, is that I have thought it through from both positions. But in the end, if there is a god, he hates me. So F'im grin. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof ---

Re: PESO: Hot VW

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
A new bug. They were all the rage for about a week, weren't they? In the end, common sense prevailed. Paul On Jun 13, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Cotty wrote: On 13/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, it's bug day on the PDML Nice pic Paul. Here's another one from 10 days ago

Re: Hot VW

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yep, the beatle with the Ford nose. I remember seeing a couple over the years. Quite a transformation, isn't it? Probably a lot more trunk space to boot:-). Even though the trunk isn't in the boot. Paul On Jun 13, 2007, at 6:15 PM, John Francis wrote: Ever seen one of these?

Re: Hot VW

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ah, J.C. Whitney. They were at the intersection of Archer Avenue and State Street in Chicago. When I was fifteen years old, I used to wander their showroom for hours. They had a display engine: a 312 Ford with six deuces. I loved the look, but I was already smart enough to know that it was

Re: Enablement: Clothes / Walking Billboard

2007-06-13 Thread npx
Nah, the shirt is the real deal. The enlargement is just their poor typing skills. Why they didn't just post a larger picture, I don't know. the shirts can be ordered direct from Pentax Imaging: https://pc-wweb.pentax.com/scripts/wgate/zw20_pc/!?

Re: Hot VW

2007-06-13 Thread Stan Halpin
No such thing as not being old enough to drive. Old enough to be legal maybe, but driving is feasible at just about any age... stan (started with tractors at 12/yr, cars at 14/yr) On Jun 13, 2007, at 8:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Ah, J.C. Whitney. They were at the intersection of Archer

OT Looks like a exciting time for astronomers

2007-06-13 Thread graywolf
OK, the other thread got me to browsing the net. From the following NASA website it looks like new information is going to be abundant over the next few decades. http://origins.jpl.nasa.gov/index1.html -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof

Re: Enablement: Clothes / Walking Billboard

2007-06-13 Thread npx
Silly stuff. I don't wear advertising. :-) I would never expect a utilitarian dude like yourself to wear anything of the sort, Godfrey. Me, I'm just irrationally drawn to Pentax. When I get this way over something, I tend to go all-out. It's rare that I do this, for which my wallet is

Re: Hot VW

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jun 13, 2007, at 10:09 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: No such thing as not being old enough to drive. How true. And how we embraced that way back when. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

PESO - GFM contest submission #1

2007-06-13 Thread Mat Maessen
http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/roadtrip2007/IMGP1539.jpg.html This is the only one of my entries that really was truly happy with. Slightly reworked on a better monitor than my laptop has. Just a bit of levels and curves adjustment from the original that I submitted for the contest.

PESO - Cory on a Rock

2007-06-13 Thread Mat Maessen
http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/roadtrip2007/IMGP1460.jpg.html Another one from Thursday night at GFM. Cory's comment was that his wife would be scared out of her wits by him being up on a rock like that. :-) -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax marketing

2007-06-13 Thread John Mullan
Sounds to me like it might be meant to deter streakers. jm - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:42 AM Subject: Re: Pentax marketing Stan Halpin wrote: Speaking of marketing (I know, I know -

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