OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread David Savage
G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm Australia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3577880434/ Direct link (Large ~300kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3564/3577880434_4c73374e27_b.jpg Direct link (Original ~3.8MB)

Re: Lens considerations

2009-05-30 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 29, 2009, at 22:21 , Leon Altoff wrote: Does anyone know at what focal length the 17-70 covers full frame if at all (in case I ever use film again)? At no f/l does the 17-70 cover full frame. Vignettes all the way. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread Joseph McAllister
I'm not happy with the composition of this one, but the colors textures are nice. Could use more image at the top for balance. Otherwise, lovely. On May 29, 2009, at 23:49 , David Savage wrote: G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm

Re: Lens considerations

2009-05-30 Thread Leon Altoff
Thanks Joseph, I was thinking it wouldn't cover full frame, but hoping it would. How are the image sharpness and bokeh of the 17-70? -- Leon 2009/5/30 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: On May 29, 2009, at 22:21 , Leon Altoff wrote:  Does anyone know at what focal length the 17-70

Re: Red Rhodie

2009-05-30 Thread Rick Womer
Beautiful, Paul. Tripod or Steady Stenquist + anti-shake? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 5/29/09, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Red Rhodie To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, May

RE: Lens considerations

2009-05-30 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Leon There's a full test on the 17-70 at the following URL: http://www.photozone.de/pentax/408-pentax_1770_4 I was at one point thinking of selling my DA*16-50 and buying one new, the 20-35 still fetches good money on Ebay, not sure about the 28mm shift. Regards, John

RE: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread Bob W
G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm Australia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3577880434/ Direct link (Large ~300kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3564/3577880434_4c73374e27_b.jpg Direct link (Original ~3.8MB)

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread Derby Chang
Bob W wrote: G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm Australia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3577880434/ Direct link (Large ~300kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3564/3577880434_4c73374e27_b.jpg Direct link (Original ~3.8MB)

Eloquent nude

2009-05-30 Thread Derby Chang
Good old SBS (national government-sponsored station here in Oz). Serendipitously happened to catch a doco on Edward Weston and Charis Wilson this afternoon. http://www.nwdocumentary.org/weston/ or

Re: PESO- Public Footpath [re-posting with link]

2009-05-30 Thread Derby Chang
Rick Womer wrote: A bovine herd impeded progress a bit on the Thames Path yesterday. One had to tread carefully. We later passed a man walking the other way, barefoot. Yuck. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9264700size=lg (K10D, FA 50/1.7) Rick Doing a bit of cow-tipping,

The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry

2009-05-30 Thread Derby Chang
A really fascinating essay on LL today. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

PESO: a mixed bag

2009-05-30 Thread Derby Chang
A few mixed pics. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_05/09_05_cockatoo/01.htm Went in to watch the telly shortly after this http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_05/09_05_autumnstorm/01.htm Pulled this from the archives after reading the LL story. I still have a few rolls of Full

Re: PESO: No Hands

2009-05-30 Thread Derby Chang
paul stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9262977size=lg Click to make it smaller. Just too cute. I want to click to make it larger D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: June PUG is up

2009-05-30 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: RE: June PUG is up I'm amazed by Bill Robb's picture. First of all because people lived settled (as opposed to nomadic) lives in such a place. I'm pretty sure that in most parts of the world steppes and

Re: PESO- Public Footpath [re-posting with link]

2009-05-30 Thread mike wilson
Rick Womer wrote: --- On Fri, 5/29/09, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: While the gallery was charming, this one is more... um... moving, maybe? :-) Cheers, Jostein Don't try to butter me up with your udderly cheesy puns. He can't help it. Photography gives him the horn. --

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm Australia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3577880434/ Direct link (Large ~300kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3564/3577880434_4c73374e27_b.jpg Direct link (Original ~3.8MB)

Pentax sent me an email about the K-7

2009-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
Received an email about the camera today, from Pentax. Among its features it states it will come with a 3 year warranty, a coupon for 15% off various lenses and such, and a 1-800 number for professionals to call for equipment loans. I though Pentax was not a pro camera. Guess not. :-) Dave

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
I like the blue tints in this one Dave. If you don't like that D700, send it over here and i;'ll dispose of it properly for you. Dave On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:49 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm

Re: PESO: a mixed bag

2009-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: A few mixed pics. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_05/09_05_cockatoo/01.htm Ahhh, so thats what a lens baby does. Neat. Went in to watch the telly shortly after this

Re: Red Rhodie

2009-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
Thats a nice, clear, well exposed shot. I like the bit of emerging flower on the right being in the shot. Dave On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:33 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's rhododendron season in Michigan. This bloom is one of hundreds on a ten footer in front of my

Re: PESO-Three Cals - PhotoShop fun

2009-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
I confuse easily.:-) Nice shot. Glad you did it with a John Deere.:-) Dave On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: I told my three year old grandson, Cal, that I would make a picture of three of him on my lawn tractor.  I don't think he quite grasped the

Re: PESO - Hanging On!

2009-05-30 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks to all who looked and commented on this. Some specific responses: Bruce wrote (and Paul agreed): I would probably take just a little off the bottom if it were mine. I shot a number of variations of this with the stem being placed at various positions in the frame. I thought the more

Re: PESO- Public Footpath [re-posting with link]

2009-05-30 Thread Brian Walters
Yes, definitely a need to tread carefully there! If it was mine, I'd probably crop quite a bit off the bottom, probably by as much as a half. I agree with Derby's suggestion of a panoramic crop. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia

Re: PESO - Lunch Time

2009-05-30 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 29 May 2009 02:15 -0700, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: We're taking a couple of weeks of holiday, and have been doing lots of traveling. I've been doing lots of shooting, and have about 1200 unsorted images here on Lightroom. So the obvious solution is to shoot some more.

Re: PESO-Three Cals - PhotoShop fun

2009-05-30 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:29 -0500, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: I told my three year old grandson, Cal, that I would make a picture of three of him on my lawn tractor. I don't think he quite grasped the concept. When I asked him who was in the picture, he said Me. When I

Re: Lens considerations

2009-05-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Leon, if I had (a good copy of) 20-35 I would probably keep it. Having somewhat similar situation to that of yours, I opted for Tamron 28-75/2.8 and DA 21. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 30 May 2009 14:49 +0800, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm Australia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3577880434/ Direct link (Large ~300kb)

Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2

2009-05-30 Thread David J Brooks
Ok, here is the updated version, with several suggestions worked on. I finally figured out what buttons to turn off in PS to allow a re size of the two shots that were off a bit. I redid the text. I re sized the gif to 100k, and proper LxW so the photos are not squished. Now i just need to

Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2

2009-05-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5/30/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, here is the updated version, with several suggestions worked on. I finally figured out what buttons to turn off in PS to allow a re size of the two shots that were off a bit. I redid the text. I re sized the gif to 100k, and proper

Re: No GFM:-(

2009-05-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul, please pass our wishes of speedy and most importantly complete recovery to your daughter. As for GFM, hopefully one day you and I would make the way there and meet in person... Boris paul stenquist wrote: My daughter's second chemo session is scheduled for Friday. I take her to the

Re: OT: It's amazing how time flies

2009-05-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Nah, I will not engage my brain in computing some tricky number out of these four... Congratulations anyway! Boris William Robb wrote: 7 dogs, 7 cats, 6 cars, and 25 years of fun ago, my wife and I got married. I'd do it again, I suspect she's thinking she'd be getting out of jail about

Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2

2009-05-30 Thread Doug Franklin
David J Brooks wrote: Now i just need to figure out how to centre it on the page. Any code ideas.?? p align=center img src=/myphoto.jpg alt=http://www.caughtinmotion.com; /p for old style, pure HTML3 -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Boris and Galia Peso (trip to Haifa)

2009-05-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! We had yet another (as still wonderful) trip to Haifa this weekend. I chose a single pic from each day (totally three). Be brutal and honest. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/05/peso-2009-020.html Boris P.S. The only correction to Galia's shot was minor tonality and 0.75 deg

The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
Anybody else read http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2009/05/a-leica-year.html Mike Johnston's little ode to simplicity and the Leica as a teacher. I'm seriously thinking about giving the basic concept a try. Not with a Leica though, but rather with either a Yashica

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread Anthony Farr
Dreamy. regards, Anthony   Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) 2009/5/30 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com: G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm Australia:

RE: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2

2009-05-30 Thread Bob W
[...] For Bob W, re the index page. I thought i found all the spelling mistakes, but i guess not.;-) The page it self is from a web tutorial offered by my ISP, which i did a simple page, then cut pasted and hacked my way into the way it is now. I have a book on coding, but its all greek to me

Re: Logo 3 was OT New logo, try #2

2009-05-30 Thread Paul Sorenson
Try Komposer http://kompozer.net/ It's pretty easy to use and offers WYSIWYG as well as a source screen. -p Bob W wrote: [...] For Bob W, re the index page. I thought i found all the spelling mistakes, but i guess not.;-) The page it self is from a web tutorial offered by my ISP, which i

RE: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Bob W
Anybody else read http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photograph er/2009/05/a-leica-year.html Mike Johnston's little ode to simplicity and the Leica as a teacher. I'm seriously thinking about giving the basic concept a try. Not with a Leica though, but rather with either

Autopano let loose

2009-05-30 Thread Rob Studdert
Hi Team, This is my first PESO for a while, more to come if you care, commendations or critisims welcomed of course. Like Dave Savage and a few others I've been shooting a good number of multi-image panos over the last few years, it can be quite rewarding. However I've found that determining

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Anybody else read http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photograph er/2009/05/a-leica-year.html Mike Johnston's little ode to simplicity and the Leica as a teacher. I'm seriously thinking about giving the

Re: Lens considerations

2009-05-30 Thread Anthony Farr
You'll still find times when lens changing is an annoyance even with a new, longer range zoom. While I haven't followed the prices of lenses and cameras I'd think an additional camera would be comparable in cost to a new lens which you only want for the sake of avoiding lens changes. You could

PESO 2009 - 079 - GDG

2009-05-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I haven't posted a self-portrait in a bit ... took this one while on my morning walk a couple of days ago enjoying the rediscovery of my Contax Tix camera. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3587/3578924004_4f09cd150b_o.jpg 079 - Self Portrait On Walk - Sunnyvale 2009 Contax Tix - Kodak Advantix

Re: PESO 2009 - 079 - GDG

2009-05-30 Thread Walter Hamler
Nice capture. I especially like the way the camera caught your eyes in perfect focus. Did you plan that, and if so, how? Walt On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: I haven't posted a self-portrait in a bit ... took this one while on my morning walk a couple

Re: PESO 2009 - 079 - GDG

2009-05-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks Walter. The focusing was mostly guesswork ... You only have three means of controlling the focus on this camera: - aim carefully knowing the AF hot spot - lock focus and exposure with a half press and reframe, press the shutter the rest of the way - lock the focus to infinity and

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
50 dollars or even a hundred is peanuts compared to the cost of film and develompent only for shooting 4-5 rolls a month for a year. On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Anybody else read

Re: Autopano let loose

2009-05-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Well done if you ask me... Boris Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, This is my first PESO for a while, more to come if you care, commendations or critisims welcomed of course. Like Dave Savage and a few others I've been shooting a good number of multi-image panos over the last few years, it can be

Re: June PUG is up

2009-05-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: June PUG is up Paul, I intend to get back out there and do some more work there before the place collapses completely. The house is sitting on a rock foundation that is becoming very unstable, and the spine of the roof, while not

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: The Leica as a Teacher Anybody else read http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2009/05/a-leica-year.html Mike Johnston's little ode to simplicity and the Leica as a teacher. How eerie is that. On May 12,

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
Depends on the film. 5 rolls a month of inexpensive BW film (Arista for example) souped in Rodinal is around $15 a month. E-6 is expensive. C-41 less so and BW can be dirt cheap. -Adam On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: 50 dollars or even a

RE: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Its not the cost in dollars that makes using film expensive, It’s the cost in hours of my time. J.C. O'Connell ( mailto:hifis...@gate.net ) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:43 PM To:

Re: Autopano let loose

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
Most definitely. -Adam On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Well done if you ask me... Boris Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, This is my first PESO for a while, more to come if you care, commendations or critisims welcomed of course. Like Dave Savage

RE: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Bob W
The Leica tax is not a myth. Even if you consider the capital expenditures a wash, a comparable 35mm SLR of similar vintage to an M4 will cost no more than $50 and is often available much cheaper than that. In other words buying the SLR will cost you less than shipping, fees and taxes on

Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry

2009-05-30 Thread Keith Whaley
Derby Chang wrote: A really fascinating essay on LL today. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml Well worth a read by anyone seriously interested in understanding more about the turning point between film and digital use. I thought I had a reasonable understanding of

Re: June PUG is up

2009-05-30 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: June PUG is up Paul, I intend to get back out there and do some more work there before the place collapses completely. The house is sitting on a rock foundation that is becoming very unstable, and the spine of

Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry

2009-05-30 Thread mike wilson
Keith Whaley wrote: Derby Chang wrote: A really fascinating essay on LL today. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml Well worth a read by anyone seriously interested in understanding more about the turning point between film and digital use. I thought I had a

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
Very true, I'd not be shooting film anymore if I didn't enjoy the process nearly as much as the results. Developing and scanning eat up time. The flip side is I enjoy developing and don't mind scanning. -Adam On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Its not the

Re: PESO- Public Footpath [re-posting with link]

2009-05-30 Thread AlunFoto
2009/5/29 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: Don't try to butter me up with your udderly cheesy puns. Yeth thur! No thur! http://web.me.com/aaronandpatty/What_the_Duck/Merch_files/droppedImage_38.jpg :-) Jothtein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: The Leica tax is not a myth. Even if you consider the capital expenditures a wash, a comparable 35mm SLR of similar vintage to an M4 will cost no more than $50 and is often available much cheaper than that. In other words

test

2009-05-30 Thread this isjustatest
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Re: test

2009-05-30 Thread AlunFoto
Given the footer on the website of www.consultant.com, a successful test probably means trouble: CONSULTANT.COM is a publication of World.com Media. Other leading publications include Asia.com for the Best Deals on Travel in Asia, Lawyer.com for Legal Advice and Services, Doctor.com for Consumer

Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:43 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: Derby Chang wrote: A really fascinating essay on LL today. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rise-fall.shtml Well worth a read by anyone seriously interested in understanding more

RE: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Bob W
Well, there's obviously a geographical aspect to this because I can walk into a shop, buy a Leica or an SLR, and pay no taxes, fees or shipping on either, so those aspects are irrelevant. Otherwise I can buy sell privately, in which case those aspects don't feature at all. Buying

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
When I started shooting some thirty five years ago, this was about the only way to do it. My first serious camera was similar to a Leica. It as a Nikon SP2 rangefinder with a 35mm lens. Shot with nothing but that for a long time. Then just a few years back, I spent the better part of a

Re: Autopano let loose

2009-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
A nice image. Good to see you posting here. Paul On May 30, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, This is my first PESO for a while, more to come if you care, commendations or critisims welcomed of course. Like Dave Savage and a few others I've been shooting a good number of

Re: Autopano let loose

2009-05-30 Thread Ken Waller
Very well done - needs to be printed to be fully appreciated. Welcome back Rob ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Subject: Autopano let loose Hi Team, This is my first PESO for a while, more to come if

Re: PESO 2009 - 079 - GDG

2009-05-30 Thread Ken Waller
I believe it would be a better portrait in a square format, minus about a fourth of the image from the LH side. A concerned look BTW. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com Subject: PESO 2009 - 079 - GDG I haven't

re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca Anybody else read http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2009/05/a-leica-year.html Mike Johnston's little ode to simplicity and the Leica as a teacher. I'm seriously thinking about giving the basic concept a try. Not with a Leica though,

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Well, there's obviously a geographical aspect to this because I can walk into a shop, buy a Leica or an SLR, and pay no taxes, fees or shipping on either, so those aspects are irrelevant. Otherwise I can buy sell

RE: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Bob W
I wasn't aware that the VAT was lower on used items or calculated on margin instead of selling price. The VAT rate is the same. However it simply isn't invisible to the buyer since they can still see non-VAT pricing via the net. Really? On second-hand goods? Where? There may be

Re: Lens considerations

2009-05-30 Thread Leon Altoff
Hi John, Thank for the link, it's interesting to compare the 2 lenses on paper. It looks like they should produce similar quality images which is what I wanted to know. -- Leon 2009/5/30 John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk: Hi Leon There's a full test on the 17-70 at the following URL:

RE: Lens considerations

2009-05-30 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Leon. Pleasure to help, I think the only real advantage I have with the 16-50 is the f/2.8 aperture, even the distortion is similar. Regards, john From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Leon Altoff [leon.alt...@gmail.com]

Re: Lens considerations

2009-05-30 Thread Leon Altoff
Hi Anthony, I've often considered the second body approach. I did this with film and had 2 Super A or 2 Z1p bodies which had at various times different film or different lenses attached. With digital it gets a bit expensive to replace 2 bodies at once (I have 2 istD bodies still and only one

Re: Lens considerations

2009-05-30 Thread Leon Altoff
Hi Boris, I think that 28 would not be wide enough to keep me happy and I'd end up going the other way and always changing to the 12-24 (which I don't always carry). I'm thinking that I will probably keep a selection of primes for film use (which may end up just being a collection as I haven't

PESOs: meeting the daemons and 2dimensional flight

2009-05-30 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
i don't usually go around giving names to photos, but here's a couple of exceptions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3579039377/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3577283098/ pentax k10d, da 50-200 luka -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

PESO 2009 - 080 - GDG

2009-05-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Some people take exception ... despite their charm and beauty. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3330/3579077139_021d427ae1_o.jpg 080 - Resistance - Sunnyvale 2009 Contax Tix - Kodak Advantix BW 400 Nikon LS-40, Lightroom processing flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3579077139/

RE: PESOs: meeting the daemons and 2dimensional flight

2009-05-30 Thread Bob W
i don't usually go around giving names to photos, but here's a couple of exceptions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3579039377/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3577283098/ pentax k10d, da 50-200 luka your photographs are always very interesting and unusual, I

Re: PESOs: meeting the daemons and 2dimensional flight

2009-05-30 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
thank you bob, it's a very nice thing to hear! On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: i don't usually go around giving names to photos, but here's a couple of exceptions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3579039377/

Re: PESOs: meeting the daemons and 2dimensional flight

2009-05-30 Thread Bong Manayon
The photos and titles are great! 'Favorited' them :-) On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: i don't usually go around giving names to photos, but here's a couple of exceptions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3579039377/

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Sandy Harris
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Anybody else read http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2009/05/a-leica-year.html Mike Johnston's little ode to simplicity and the Leica as a teacher. I'm seriously thinking about giving the basic

Re: PESOs: meeting the daemons and 2dimensional flight

2009-05-30 Thread paul stenquist
Excellent photo. The title works well here and contributes to the imagery. Nicely done. Paul On May 30, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: i don't usually go around giving names to photos, but here's a couple of exceptions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3579039377/

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I wasn't aware that the VAT was lower on used items or calculated on margin instead of selling price. The VAT rate is the same. The effect is a lower rate if calculated on margin rather than selling price. However it

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Anybody else read http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2009/05/a-leica-year.html Mike Johnston's little ode to simplicity and

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5/31/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: A good idea, but the bodies cost roughly the same as an M3 or M4-2 in user condition. Of course they do include such niceties as a sane film loading design. The lenses are more interesting. However I'm only considering bodies I already own. M4 and

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread David Mann
On May 31, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +6... UTC +10 Interesting phone number, how does one dial an ellipsis? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread David Mann
On May 31, 2009, at 5:16 AM, Bob W wrote: Not in this country. I could get extremely very drunk several times over for the price of a Nikon F. I could get extremely drunk several times over for the price of a secondhand 50mm f/2. With dents. And fungus. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: PESO 2009 - 080 - GDG

2009-05-30 Thread Joseph McAllister
There's one in every outdoor cafe. And you found her. Nice tonality and presentation. Lots of freckles, or Tri-X filter? Did you wait for a gotcha moment? I would have! :-) On May 30, 2009, at 15:19 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Some people take exception ... despite their charm and beauty.

Re: PESO 2009 - 080 - GDG

2009-05-30 Thread Joseph McAllister
Hey, it was film! Didn't notice until my third look! On May 30, 2009, at 15:19 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3330/3579077139_021d427ae1_o.jpg 080 - Resistance - Sunnyvale 2009 Contax Tix - Kodak Advantix BW 400 Nikon LS-40, Lightroom processing Joseph McAllister

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/31/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: A good idea, but the bodies cost roughly the same as an M3 or M4-2 in user condition. Of course they do include such niceties as a sane film loading design. The lenses are

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5/31/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: I'm not much of a fan of the Magic Needle system on the Pentax K mount bodies. Best film loading I've seen in a manual-advance SLR is the Canon QL system, after that I prefer the traditional system used by most other setups (including the Bessa

Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry

2009-05-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechanical time pieces became an anachronism. So too

Re: The Leica as a Teacher

2009-05-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/31/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: I'm not much of a fan of the Magic Needle system on the Pentax K mount bodies. Best film loading I've seen in a manual-advance SLR is the Canon QL system, after that I

Re: The Rise of Digital imaging and the Fall of the Old Camera industry

2009-05-30 Thread Keith Whaley
Bob Sullivan wrote: Companies have an institutional memory and like to do what they know how to do well. A major technological innovation can mean major dislocations. Suddenly that expensive Swiss timepiece is bested by a $6 chip watch from Texas Instruments. Mechanical time pieces became an

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread David Savage
I agree 100%. I have a tenancy to want to duck down and look up to see what else is above the frame :-) But the sequence was shot so I stitched it. I threw it out there more as an example of the level of detail you can get in stitched images. Thanks for your comments. Cheers, Dave 2009/5/30

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread David Savage
Thanks mate. The only problem I'm having with the D700 at the moment is that I've been shooting with it so much the rubber grip on the front by the rear command dial are coming unstuck. Time to send it in for a warranty fix methinks. Cheers, Dave 2009/5/30 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread David Savage
2009/5/30 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: On Sat, 30 May 2009 14:49 +0800, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm Australia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3577880434/ Direct link (Large

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread David Savage
Thanks Anthony. Cheers, Dave 2009/5/30 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: Dreamy. regards, Anthony    Of what use is lens and light    to those who lack in mind and sight                                               (Anon) 2009/5/30 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com: G'day

Re: OT PESO - Levels (Pano)

2009-05-30 Thread David Savage
2009/5/30 Bob W p...@web-options.com: G'day Trendsetters, A 4 frame pano from Dales Gorge, Karijini National Park, Westerm Australia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3577880434/ Direct link (Large ~300kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3564/3577880434_4c73374e27_b.jpg Direct link

Re: PESO 2009 - 080 - GDG

2009-05-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks Joseph. From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There's one in every outdoor cafe. And you found her. Nice tonality and presentation. Lots of freckles, or Tri-X filter? Did you wait for a gotcha moment? I would have! :-) She's a barista at the local coffee shop where I stop for my