J C Oconnell wrote:
remember when Pentax was late with their first DSLR compared to the
competition?
Using the same logic, everyone who wanted a DSLR would have already
switched to Canon, nikon. That didnt happen and Pentax caught up in the
APSC DSLR competion.
I remember the long
The writer of the article shows his own biases in the following statement:
Photography can easily degenerate into a pseudo-art, with millions of
people all taking pictures of the same things and all thinking we are
special.
This amateur delusion of photographic art is everywhere today – from
Malcolm, while I understand what you meant, -- the photographers who are
hooked on a particular system and have invested in the glass, etc.
But that's only part of the picture.
Your conclusion is based on the assumption that there is no movement on
the DSLR market.
First of all, there are
Igor wrote:
Here is an article in The Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/i
nstagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism
While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with
some of the statements the author makes.
HAR! :-)
My Elvis will bit your Elvis!
or even
My Elvis is bigger than your Elvis!
Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 03 Feb 2015 22:26:30 -0800 wrote:
... my Elvis ...
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While starting reading this sentence below, I first thought it would be
something like:
You could put two photographers in an empty garden shed,
and they would come back with three different images
... each!
;-)
Cheers!
Igor
Malcolm Smith Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:40:32 -0800 wrote:
Here is an article in The Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/instagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism
While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with
some of the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests
I never even switched to an advanced film SLR, I was very happily using
my spotmatics and takumars until
I bought a Pentax DSLR. I did have one K mount body to use K lenses and
motordrive but it was a low model A3000.
jco
On 2/4/2015 11:44 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
Malcolm, while I understand
On Feb 4, 2015, at 6:46 pm, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com:
Another view out the train window, not far from Adelaide.
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/857/#peso
Jeez you're taking a long time to go from Melbourne to Adelaide :-)
10
he suggests that you cannot take really great pictures on a cruise. And
that's because more than one person can take similar pictures there.
Interestingly, I was on a Nat Geo 'expedition' cruise of the Inside Passage
in Alaska 2 years ago - a small ship with only 62 passengers - not your
On 2015-02-04 9:25 , Igor PDML-StR wrote:
While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with some of
the statements the author makes. E.g. he suggests that you cannot take
really great pictures on a cruise. And that's because more than one person
can take similar pictures
On 2/3/2015 10:38 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
Via Asahi Man at DP Review, according to Photo Rumors, two new lenses
are to be released on 5 Feb. Both are D-FA.
Let FFF (full frame frenzy) commence
HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/2.8
Pentax-D FA 150-450mm f/4.5-5.6
Your top 3 Pentax film bodies, with reasons for each.
For me (though I have held but never fully used all of them)
1. MZ-S perfect ergonomics
2. LX sound design
3. KX unbreakable
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Via Asahi Man at DP Review, according to Photo Rumors, two new lenses are to
be released on 5 Feb. Both are D-FA.
Let FFF (full frame frenzy) commence
I shall eat mine with a nice Chianti.
FFF...
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CollinB wrote:
Your top 3 Pentax film bodies, with reasons for each.
For me (though I have held but never fully used all of them)
1. MZ-S perfect ergonomics
2. LX sound design
3. KX unbreakable
1. LX - beautiful camera, useful interchangeable viewfinders
2. MX - Workhorse
3. K2DMD -
A macro under artificial light (Ricoh GXR A12 module, 50mm f/2.5).
https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/02/04/adsiz/
While trying to construct a small home studio for better macros...
Bulent
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P.J. Alling wrote:
Kind of old news, they were displayed at CES with the new K-50
replacement, (still to be named). I don't know how much credence you
should put in a web site that lists as related news rumors of a
cheaper Pemtax mirrorless camera from 2012!
Really, since Pentax won't offer
Malcolm,
Yep, agree. The lack of Pentax brand at the camera stores is not
helping. ... but!...
1. There are very few true camera stores remaining. For many people,
especially in smaller cities, the only places selling cameras are BestBuy,
Walmart and Target.
So, if people are advanced
Igor wrote:
Malcolm, while I understand what you meant, -- the photographers who
are hooked on a particular system and have invested in the glass,
etc.
But that's only part of the picture.
Your conclusion is based on the assumption that there is no movement on
the DSLR market.
First of
Check the byline: it's just Jonathan Jones finger painting in his
mashed potatoes again.
Two word substitutions work here:
The truth is that words like creativity, individuality, talent and
originality don’t readily apply when you have a planet of people all
writing articles.
For a good
On 2/4/2015 11:25 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
Here is an article in The Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2015/feb/03/instagram-generation-amateur-photographers-art-plagiarism
While the article raises some interesting questions, I disagree with
some of the
1. MZ-S Agree: perfect ergonomics
2. LX Wonderful exposure meter
3. ME SUPER a good friend for a lot of miles
Jack
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From: CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:28:27 AM
Subject: Poll
Your top 3 Pentax film
Makes 'em look like they're carved out of marble.
On 2/4/2015 2:33 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
A macro under artificial light (Ricoh GXR A12 module, 50mm f/2.5).
https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/02/04/adsiz/
While trying to construct a small home studio for better macros...
Bulent
Ken Waller wrote:
In a world of pretentious and complacent amateur snapping, we are drowning
those moments of truth in an ocean of the banal.
Agreed!
Well duh! Sturgeon's Law (90% of everything is crap). Why should it
not apply to photography?
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CollinB wrote:
Your top 3 Pentax film bodies, with reasons for each.
For me (though I have held but never fully used all of them)
1. MZ-S perfect ergonomics
2. LX sound design
3. KX unbreakable
I'd replace the KX with either the K1000 or K2. Every single KX I've
ever owned or handled had a
On 2/4/2015 4:17 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think I'll save my frenzy until they actually announce a FF DSLR.
Me too!
http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html
If that day ever comes, I hope you'll bring it to Grandfather Mountain
to hold the
He's full of stinky brown stuff.
MARK !
haven't seen many of these lately
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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From: John sesso...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Photography, art, unintentional plagiarism, ...
On 2/4/2015 11:25 AM, Igor
Bulent Celasun wrote:
A macro under artificial light (Ricoh GXR A12 module, 50mm f/2.5).
https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/02/04/adsiz/
While trying to construct a small home studio for better macros...
I love the composition (though it may be slightly improved if the leaf
in the lower
Malcolm Smith wrote on Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:36:50 -0800
(snip)
The real problem with selling an FF camera when the competition has had them
on the camera store shelves for years, is who are they going to sell it to
in a large enough quantity to justify the expense? Everyone who really
James King wrote:
Yes, but many who *want* one rather than *need* one are still out
there. IMO most FF enthusiasts are in this category, myself included.
Can't disagree, I fall into the same category. I just hope there is enough
of a market for a FF body. I'd be delighted to see such a camera
Malcolm Smith Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:43:55 -0800 wrote:
Can't disagree, I fall into the same category. I just hope there is enough
of a market for a FF body.
FF body, - in this context it sounds almost as superlative of F.
;-)
PS. And with respect to need vs want, - James wrote exactly what
Elegant, and very nice tones.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:
A macro under artificial light (Ricoh GXR A12 module, 50mm f/2.5).
https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/02/04/adsiz/
While trying to construct a small home studio for better macros...
On 4/2/15, CollinB, discombobulated, unleashed:
Your top 3 Pentax film bodies, with reasons for each.
1. MX Solid performer.
2. MX Form and function in perfect harmony.
3. MX Art in its own right.
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On 2/4/2015 3:28 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
Igor wrote:
Yep, agree. The lack of Pentax brand at the camera stores is not
helping. ... but!...
1. There are very few true camera stores remaining. For many people,
especially in smaller cities, the only places selling cameras are
BestBuy, Walmart
didnt the LX have a sticky mirror problem with its design?
jco
On 2/4/2015 2:51 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
1. MZ-S Agree: perfect ergonomics
2. LX Wonderful exposure meter
3. ME SUPER a good friend for a lot of miles
Jack
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From: CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net
To: PDML
1. Super A (Super Program) - Perfect combination of features
2. KX - perfect size and it just worked
3. MZ-5 (that's a '5' not as 'S') - got just about everything right
(although I would have chosen the 5n if I'd ever owned one)
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian
Igor wrote:
Yep, agree. The lack of Pentax brand at the camera stores is not
helping. ... but!...
1. There are very few true camera stores remaining. For many people,
especially in smaller cities, the only places selling cameras are
BestBuy, Walmart and Target.
So, if people are advanced
1. MZ-S - Feels good in my hands - had all I needed in a film camera
2. Asahi Spotmatic - my first 'serious' camera - pretty much state of the
art when I got mine - 1968 - allowed me to use various focal length lenses
need to capture the images I sought.
3. PZ1 - brought me into the age of
On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think I'll save my frenzy until they actually announce a FF DSLR.
Me too!
http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html
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On 2/4/2015 2:28 PM, CollinB wrote:
Your top 3 Pentax film bodies, with reasons for each.
For me (though I have held but never fully used all of them)
1. MZ-S perfect ergonomics
2. LX sound design
3. KX unbreakable
1. LX - Duh! It's a *LX*!
2. K1000 - ubiquitous
3. PZ-1p - autofocus
--
these new D-FA lenses are larger, heavier, and more expensive than a
DA lens of the same focal length and speed so it seems there would be
no reason for pentax to develop and sell them UNLESS a FF digital DSLR
is on the way soon. I just hope the new FF body is not too expensive.
jco
On 2/4/2015
remember when Pentax was late with their first DSLR compared to the
competition?
Using the same logic, everyone who wanted a DSLR would have already switched
to Canon, nikon. That didnt happen and Pentax caught up in the APSC DSLR
competion.
On 2/4/2015 10:17 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
On
What about those who want to need one?
Alan C
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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:27 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: New Zoom Lenses
Malcolm Smith wrote on Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:36:50 -0800
(snip)
The real problem with selling an FF camera
1. ME Super. A little workhorse with AV mode.
2. P30. Much the same but never felt right.
3. S1a. My first.
-Original Message-
From: CollinB
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 9:28 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Poll
Your top 3 Pentax film bodies, with reasons for each.
For me (though
Quoting Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com:
In case you're looking for a photography tool that's easier on the
wallet than a full-frame camera or D-FA* 70-200/2.8...
Google Earth Pro, the version of Google Earth that used to cost
$399/year, is now free. I've used the regular free Google Earth
Quoting Alan C c...@lantic.net:
What about those who want to need one?
... or neither want nor need one...
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
Alan C
-Original Message- From: James King
I wonder if this announcement is going to affect this years sales of the
K-3???
jco
On 2/4/2015 9:59 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
I'm surprised that the ever-astute Pentax marketing department isn't
using that...
The full frame wait is over... in ten more months.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:43 PM,
MX: my first serious camera given to me for Christmas by my first serious
boyfriend. Camera much more reliable than the boyfriend. Have been loyal to
Pentax ever since.
Cheers, Christine
On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
Steve Cottrell
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 01:44:02PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
Check the byline: it's just Jonathan Jones finger painting in his
mashed potatoes again.
Yep - Jonathan Jones is paid to stir up controversy, not to serve information.
45 years ago I used to trust the Guardian. Not today, though.
On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
If that day ever comes, I hope you'll bring it to Grandfather Mountain
to hold the feast.
You bring the maple syrup ;-)
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1 Super Program - my most used body
2 LX - great exposure metering, fine ergonomics
3 MZ-S too short of a lifespan with the arrival of digital
Regards, Bob S.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
1. Mz-S: My most used film body still.
2. *ist: I only discovered
2499.95 for the 150-450:
http://www.pentaxwebstore.com/product/hd-pentax-d-fa-150-450mm-f45-56ed-dc-aw-wcase
2299.95 for the 70-200:
http://www.pentaxwebstore.com/product/hd-pentax-d-fa70-200mm-f28ed-dc-aw-wcase
I’d like to have the 150-450. I suspect it will be 1900 at BH in a year or so.
--
Ouch, that's AU$3218.85 directly converted for the 70-200 here less
all the outrageous taxes, very glad I picked up my Sigma 70-200 new
for AU$610
On 5 February 2015 at 11:03, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
2499.95 for the 150-450:
Quoting Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv:
On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think I'll save my frenzy until they actually announce a FF DSLR.
Me too!
http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html
If you start marinating it now, it might just be tender enough to
force down by
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3071796575/ricoh-announces-development-of-long-awaited-full-frame-pentax-dslr?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=mainmenuutm_medium=textref=mainmenu
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http://www.dpreview.com/articles/5760258369/ricoh-introduces-hd-pentax-d-fa-70-200mm-f2-8-and-hd-pentax-d-fa-150-450mm-f4-5-5-6-zooms
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Dario Bonazza wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3071796575/ricoh-announces-development-of-long-awaited-full-frame-pentax-dslr
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/5760258369/ricoh-introduces-hd-pentax-d-fa-70-200mm-f2-8-and-hd-pentax-d-fa-150-450mm-f4-5-5-6-zooms
My wish is that they
1. Mz-S: My most used film body still.
2. *ist: I only discovered this recently but use it almost as much as
the Mz-S. Probably the best AF of any Pentax film body and handling very
similar to the modern DSLRs. But rather fragile and prone to breaking.
(I'm on my 3rd body in 2 years with this
LX: Used it for quite a few years, loved it, still have it, but haven't shot
with it in years.
6x7: Fabulous image quality from big negs. Used it exclusively for several
years. Made money.
Spotmatic F: A sturdy workhorse. Kept two in my kit. Used them for at least
five years. Still have them.
Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 4/2/15, CollinB, discombobulated, unleashed:
Your top 3 Pentax film bodies, with reasons for each.
1. MX Solid performer.
2. MX Form and function in perfect harmony.
3. MX Art in its own right.
MX: The only 35mm film camera I still own. Better
durability/reliability
Asahi Man says planned availability in the fall, meaning some of you
can call in the X-mas gift card for at least part of the purchase.
:)
He also confirms that it is going to be more than 24MP. (He has seen a
24MP prototype, but knows that it is cancelled).
In another post he says Of
Well nearly, according to this instagram post from Pentax Oz
https://flic.kr/p/r4a5F8
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In case you're looking for a photography tool that's easier on the
wallet than a full-frame camera or D-FA* 70-200/2.8...
Google Earth Pro, the version of Google Earth that used to cost
$399/year, is now free. I've used the regular free Google Earth
frequently to plan landscape shots, but the Pro
I haven't been waiting.
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Philip Northeast
rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
Well nearly, according to this instagram post from Pentax Oz
https://flic.kr/p/r4a5F8
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My three:
1. MZ-S - like Collin, perfect ergonomics, but also very accurate exposures and
focusing.
2. SV - probably because it was my first SLR, but also it taught me about
photos rather than snaps.
3. ME - a little jewel, with great handling.
John in Brisbane
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I'm surprised that the ever-astute Pentax marketing department isn't
using that...
The full frame wait is over... in ten more months.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't been waiting.
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:53
Almost at the end of this leg of the trip :)
Just as I was about to post this I realised I'd saved it too big, then decided
it needed a touchup. So I've given it a square crop.
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/858/#peso
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On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 10:52:52PM -0500, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
Does somebody know what accelerated maximum aperture means?
My guess would be fast (I suspect something got lost in the translation)
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Does somebody know what accelerated maximum aperture means,
sounds like a mistranslation
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... or neither want nor need one...
Because they want a rangefinder? FF of course!
Malcolm
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On 2015-02-04 18:53 , Matthew Hunt wrote:
Google Earth Pro, the version of Google Earth that used to cost
$399/year, is now free.
i had learned about that a couple of days ago and used it tonight to measure
the width of several neighborhood streets for a parking meeting a few hours
from now;
It is only natural that if accelerate something it becomes faster... wink wink
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On 2015-02-04 20:52 , Igor PDML-StR wrote:
Does somebody know what accelerated maximum
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 02:28:27PM -0500, CollinB wrote:
Your top 3 Pentax film bodies, with reasons for each.
3. MZ-S for functionality
2. PZ-1p for ergonomics
1. MXfor friendship
I never handled the LX, but the MX served me well for
many years. I bought mine in 1976, and until the
Well composed and nicely rendered, Dave.
Jack
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Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:09:01 PM
Subject: PESO: Making Hay
Another view out the train window, not far from Adelaide.
Dag, Nice representation of winter in only 4 images! Regards, Bob S.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:47 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
Just to make sure I haven´t stopped completely I have uploaded four pictures
here :-)
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/photos-2/Unsorted.html
DagT
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On 2/4/2015 2:35 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
Brian Walters wrote:
Via Asahi Man at DP Review, according to Photo Rumors, two new lenses
are to be released on 5 Feb. Both are D-FA.
Let FFF (full frame frenzy) commence
HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/2.8
Pentax-D FA 150-450mm f/4.5-5.6
Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think I'll save my frenzy until they actually announce a FF DSLR.
Me too!
http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html
Good thing you posted that quickly.
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Ricoh is knocked up!
I'm surprised that the ever-astute Pentax marketing department isn't
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The full frame wait is over... in ten more months.
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My favorite will always be the original Spotmatic (without the hot shoe,
that
made it go from sexy to ugly real fast). It was so precision, and felt
like a jewel
when you hand wound it.
jco
On 2/4/2015 11:09 PM, Alan C wrote:
1. ME Super. A little workhorse with AV mode.
2. P30. Much the same
Does somebody know what accelerated maximum aperture means, and who and
where dug out such a creative writer:
Thanks to its large- constant aperture design, the lens provides an
_accelerated__maximum__aperture_ of F2.8 at all focal lengths from 70mm to
200mm.
This is published on DPreview,
1. K2
2. LX (I'd rate it above the K2 if it wasn't for the LED meter readout)
3. Z-1p
And an honourable mention to the 6x7.
On Feb 5, 2015, at 8:28 am, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
Your top 3 Pentax film bodies, with reasons for each.
For me (though I have held but never fully
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