Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Tom Reese
://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/colorReversalIndex.jhtml?id=0.1.22.14.9lc=en It's not oversaturated and has a neutral color balance. It sounds like a very interesting assignment. Tom Reese -- Original message -- From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI gang

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

2006-02-05 Thread Tom Reese
William Robb put forth the proposition: I think a North American PDML get together would be cool. I suggest that in September 2008, we all decend upon Kodachrome Basin State Park and just hang out for a few days. Seconded. Tom (Have Camera Will Travel) Reese

GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Reese
http://www.grandfather.com/buy_tickets/naturephotography.php

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Reese
http://www.grandfather.com/buy_tickets/naturephotography.php The file you have requested was not found. We have recently redesigned the Grandfather Mountain web site and apologize if you cannot find the file you've requested. Probably some exotic software to block out Canadians...

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Reese
you can also try getting there from: http://www.grandfather.com/ then click on the find out more link at the end of the NPW paragraph -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2/2/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Reese
you can also try getting there from: http://www.grandfather.com/ then click on the find out more link at the end of the NPW paragraph -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2/2/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Reese
-- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I miss something? I wasn't given the option of filling out a credit card form... William Robb - Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open you can also try getting

Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Reese
-- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I miss something? I wasn't given the option of filling out a credit card form... William Robb - Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

Re: Delivery Failure Messages

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Reese
I've gotten them too. I thought maybe I had a virus but McAfee didn't find anything. -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] So far both messages I have sent to the PDML today have also resulted in my receiving a Delivery Failure e-mail

Re: PESO: New Dodge Challenger (front 3/4)

2006-01-10 Thread Tom Reese
://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html Tom Reese

Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations

2006-01-04 Thread Tom Reese
Wow, I made the list twice. I'm glad no one kept a dumbest things said all year list. I'd have had a couple dozen on that one. Tom Reese

Re: Re: Stacking lenses for macro.

2005-12-19 Thread Tom Reese
if there is any breeze at all. Stacking lenses is an excellent way to drive yourself nuts. Tom Reese

Re: Re: Stacking lenses for macro.

2005-12-19 Thread Tom Reese
Bill Robb replied: Stacking lenses is an excellent way to drive yourself nuts. http://pug.komkon.org/01feb/pixels.html I think you were nuts before you started. TR

Shenandoah N.P. Wildflower weekend

2005-12-19 Thread Tom Reese
Has anyone attended the Wildflower Weekend at Shenandoah National Park? Can you please share your experiences...campground full? lectures crowded? anything else I should know? thanks Tom Reese

Re: Shenandoah N.P. Wildflower weekend

2005-12-19 Thread Tom Reese
Doug (the Wiseass) Brewer offered the following: On Dec 19, 2005, at 8:16 PM, Tom Reese wrote: Has anyone attended the Wildflower Weekend at Shenandoah National Park? Can you please share your experiences...campground full? lectures crowded? anything else I should know? yeah, it's

Re: Pentax manuals

2005-12-17 Thread Tom Reese
of instruction manuals available. They had one that I needed but I didn't want to pay the UPS shipping fee so I called them. They dropped it in the mail for me. Tom Reese

Re: Pentax Stock Sale

2005-12-17 Thread Tom Reese
that Samsung was going to get involved. The SPARX website is here: http://www.tse.or.jp/english/index.shtml It could be a good sign. They don't seem to be a corporate raider type enterprise. Tom Reese

Re: GFM contest question

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reese
that won't be the case. I guess that depends on your definition of available. I suppose one could shoot color negative film, take it to a one hour processing place then scan the print or the negative. Boone is a moderately sized town about a half hour away. There's probably a quickie lab there. Tom

Re: GFM contest question

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reese
Dave Brooks wrote: If need be, you can use one of my Dslr's,if you want.We'll call the Great Canadian Beer Heist even then. Thanks Dave but I could use one of Susan's cameras if I wanted to do so. The fact is that I don't. Tom

Re: O.T.: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005

2005-12-12 Thread Tom Reese
David Savage wrote: Just saw a news story about Time magazines best photos 2005 edition. Decided to go looking for it I thought I'd post the link here. So why didn't you? Tom Reese

Re: Who's Not Using Digital

2005-12-11 Thread Tom Reese
Shel Belinkoff tried to cause trouble when he wrote: ...Who hasn't (made the move to digital) and who have no plans to do so in the near or foreseeable future? That would be me. Tom (Slides-R-Us) Reese

OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels

2005-12-10 Thread Tom Reese
http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/dccom/0,,0-5-470118-1-486076-1-0-0-0-0-0-36-479389-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html

Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels

2005-12-10 Thread Tom Reese
Scott Loveless asked: P.S. - Do you think they'd let me try for a measly 350 mph? sorry, no wimps allowed On 12/10/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/dccom/0,,0-5-470118-1-486076-1-0-0-0-0-0-36-47938 9-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html -- Scott Loveless

Velvia Photoshop plug-in

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Reese
Someone from our local camera club sent me this. I forward this to the Pentax list with great reluctance. I feel like I'm selling crack to kids. Anyway, if you don't want to be a real photographer and use real Velvia and you're willing to settle for some phony baloney digital horsepockey

national Wildlife Federation photo contest

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Reese
http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/article.cfm?issueID=79articleID=1158

Re: Clamp Knob on FA 100 Macro question

2005-12-06 Thread Tom Reese
Dave, Tightening it gives greater resistance for manual focusing. It should be loose for auto focusing. Hi Gang. I did a Google on this but came up empty. Boz's site just mentions the clamp but no details. So. Can someone fill me in on what the clamp knob does on the lens. I

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-25 Thread Tom Reese
to protecting a rare species. I don't participate in club competitions though I do still visit occasionally, there are some excellent photographers there but few of the really good ones compete regularly. Some people like to compete and some don't. shrug Tom Reese http://groups.msn.com

Re: PDML Digests -notice any virus activity?

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
I didn't receive 2970, 2971 and 2973. I wonder if they were deleted by the server for viruses? I was contacted off list by a lurker who notes: Never has happened before, but my up-to-date Norton Anti-Virus proggie kicked out both numbers 2970 and 2973 of the PDML saying that a virus was

Re: test

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
test Okay if you think you're ready: 1. WHAT is your name? 2. WHAT is your quest? 3. WHAT is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow? It's good to see you back Bill! Tom Reese

Re: Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
is more than I can stand. I'm in a bad mood for three days afterwards. Some like the digital process and some don't. Tom Reese

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
to deceive the viewer. I don't want to start another argument. It's a difference of opinion and we've already covered this ground in previous threads. Tom Reese

Re: Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
have to bother with any of the other stuff. Tom Reese

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
For the most part, PhotoShop processing has nothing to do with manipulation. It's the equivelant of selecting a paper, dodging and burning, and altering exposure and processing times in the darkroom. I was speaking from my perspective as a nature photographer and I know that's a narrow

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
competitions. That type of manipulation is against the rules. We do have separate digital categories where that type of manipulation is permitted. Tom Reese

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
them in our club and interclub competitions but photography for me is about being outside and capturing the beauty in nature. I worry a lot more about what I'm going to shoot next than what I shot yesterday or last week. Tom Reese

Re: New Poll -- Favorite film (was -- Shoot now, focus later)

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
the names of all the Elite Chromes to Kodak Professional Elite Chrome. I don't know if they've improved the films or if it's just a marketing gimmick. The EBX is still listed as being current. Tom Reese

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Reese
aware of how intrusive man has become in the natural world. Tom Reese

Re: Possibility of Medium Format enablement

2005-11-21 Thread Tom Reese
Shel asked: How would you use MLU without a tripod? It's actually pretty easy with the MZ-S. This is the procedure I use: Set camera on tripod. Set shutter mode to 2 second delay mirror prefire take the picture remove camera from tripod forgetting to reset shutter to normal mode frame another

another harassment by police story

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Reese
but no response was given. Tom Reese

Re: PESO(s): Two fall shots from Pittsburgh

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Reese
people feel safer. Tom Reese Tom Reese

RE: another harassment by police story

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Reese
My dentist was carted of to prison for photographing his patient's bridgework. They took a bite out of crime?

Re: Offlist

2005-11-17 Thread Tom Reese
Cotty wrote: See - I really am a nice bloke and not the demented half-wit that Peter Alling makes me out to be. I never thought you were demented. TR

Re: Offlist

2005-11-17 Thread Tom Reese
On 17/11/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: See - I really am a nice bloke and not the demented half-wit that Peter Alling makes me out to be. I never thought you were demented. So yer callin me a half-wit? ptui That depends on whether you'll still remember this thread

Re: Offlist

2005-11-17 Thread Tom Reese
On 17/11/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: That depends on whether you'll still remember this thread next June. I've got an arse like an elephant, so might as well have the memory of one. In that case, I'd never call you a half-wit. I think you're a real fart smeller. TR

Re: Offlist

2005-11-17 Thread Tom Reese
Re Mr Robb: Remember he was nice, when he needed to borrow my Tripod.g yeah, and when he needed a big cooler to keep his beers in... and when he...umerah...hmmm, those might be the only two times

Re: Offlist

2005-11-17 Thread Tom Reese
Yeah. In fact, IIRC, we crossed with lots of that beer with the funny name that Tom drinks... VBG That's right you did and transporting stolen property across international borders is a very serious offense. You think you had trouble getting into the U.S. this year? HAR! Tom (The Thieved

Re: Offlist

2005-11-17 Thread Tom Reese
Dave Brooks poured salt in my wounds when he wrote what he did with the beer he and Frank stole: They have been sitting out by the vegy garden all summer. I'll bring them back next June.:-)Although i did borrowone to keep the potatoe bugs away.(it worked) Sir Exploding Beer Can

Re: enablement disablement

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Reese
Disablement: Can't figure out how to make the scanned results look like the original slides. Good luck with that. I quit trying. I don't think it's possible. Tom Reese

Re: Peso: And now, for something completely different....

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Reese
WTH? I get a connection was refused message. Tom (hating computers more every day) Reese Beautiful. More, please. On 11/15/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meet Lyndsaye: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP9887_b.html William Robb -- Scott

$100 rebates on Limited lenses

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Reese
BH is showing $100 rebates on the Limited lenses. Tom (The Enabler) Reese

Re: These photos may be illegal (SMH November 16, 2005)

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Reese
I think you'll find a majority of people are happy go lucky. It's the government that paranoid. And that's why they're after us!

Re: $100 rebates on Limited lenses

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Reese
Damn you and your enablement. You're worse than Bill, only not as subtle. p.s. Thanks for the heads-up. No problem. Spending other peoples money is almost as much fun as spending my own.

Re: OT: President in Mongolia

2005-11-15 Thread Tom Reese
I hope he gets an update on the autocomposition mode. I think it would give Pentax an unbeatable competitive advantage. It would be the only camera in the world that refuses to take a crappy picture and there would be a huge demand for it. TR I asked George to stop in at Ulan Bator and see

Re: PESO - Autumn or Winter?

2005-11-13 Thread Tom Reese
they have fjords in Montana? it's where they wade across the rivers

Re: An FA-2 is a beautiful thing

2005-11-11 Thread Tom Reese
I bet there are a lot of people reading this thread that are feeling really eel right now. and they're last slither of hope is fading so quickly. TR

Re: improper photog canadian style

2005-11-10 Thread Tom Reese
Its just so much easier here in Texas. You trespass, you get shot. No one trespasses. ;) Gonz!! You make us sound so uncivilized. You forgot to mention that No Trespassing signs are widely and visibly posted, so everyone has all the warning they need. Ah! I am reassured. Only

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-10 Thread Tom Reese
Getting close can harm the animals. It may give away their location to predators or prey, cause stress, disrupt feeding and lead to abandonment of nests or young. - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should read this month's Lenswork interview

Re: An FA-2 is a beautiful thing

2005-11-10 Thread Tom Reese
On 10/11/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I have fallen in love with my LXs all over again. It'll end in tears ;-) Yep. They'll eventually run off to live in Florida with some guy who will give them snakeskin coats. TR

Re: An FA-2 is a beautiful thing

2005-11-10 Thread Tom Reese
I have fallen in love with my LXs all over again. It'll end in tears ;-) Yep. They'll eventually run off to live in Florida with some guy who will give them snakeskin coats. What an adderly heartwrenching thought. and it'll make you feel like an asp.

Re: For Bertha: King Cobra vs. Wimberly

2005-11-08 Thread Tom Reese
and they're both serious pieces of equipment. I would expect the King Cobra head to be of the same high quality. I don't think you could go wrong with either one. You could call and ask them: why should I buy your unit instead of the other one? Tom Reese

Re: PESO - Autumn or Winter?

2005-11-08 Thread Tom Reese
On 8/11/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: There is a chance you will have a second chance on that. Me and Jostein may have a plan. To be continued ... Har! And does Ryanair form any part of this plan?? Better Ryanair than longships. TR

RE: PESO - Autumn or Winter?

2005-11-08 Thread Tom Reese
Not a bad word about long ships. Be careful, otherwise we might show you what they are good for. June 2-4 would be a great time to show us. We'll be fighting off an invasion of drunken Canadians and one besotted Brit on those dates. You might as well join the party:

Re: PESO - Autumn or Winter?

2005-11-08 Thread Tom Reese
Apparently, there are quite a few people sailing around in Viking ships: http://www.digitalnorseman.com/vships/shpintro.html

Re: Re: PESO A portrait of the avian kind

2005-11-07 Thread Tom Reese
Stop grousing. If you don't like it just duck out. why are you being so unpheasant?

Re: PESO A portrait of the avian kind

2005-11-07 Thread Tom Reese
This junco is really wasting bandwidth. Unfortunately, it looks like we'll be stork with it a little while longer. TR

Re: PESO A portrait of the avian kind

2005-11-07 Thread Tom Reese
This junco is really wasting bandwidth. Unfortunately, it looks like we'll be stork with it a little while longer. Why, do you think we're gull-able? No, because we seem to have some weird highly infectious mallardy.

Re: PESO A portrait of the avian kind

2005-11-07 Thread Tom Reese
Some would say we're LOONY. Could be, but if your eyes start puffin up then you should think about chicken your temperature.

Re: The sky is...

2005-11-06 Thread Tom Reese
opinion, is a very bad thing but it doesn't seem to bother many others. Tom Reese Japan has a larger economy and the infrastructure that permits them to do so. China's running the ragged edge of their available infrastructure as it is, their only advantage is a larger, less productive

Re: PESO A portrait of the avian kind

2005-11-05 Thread Tom Reese
Cotty, are you giving him the bird??? ann ... um.. well.. ducks From heron in, it's war. you're gonna egret that. TR

Re: PESO A portrait of the avian kind

2005-11-05 Thread Tom Reese
In a message dated 11/5/2005 12:39:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you're gonna egret that. TR I already did that one. It's taken. sigh I guess I laid an egg. TR

Re: PESO A portrait of the avian kind

2005-11-05 Thread Tom Reese
Careful now, we don't want to ruffle any feathers. Hey Pete, you're showing some talon. Personally, I'm sick of these falcon puns. TR

Re: What is Gmail?

2005-11-04 Thread Tom Reese
The archive doesn't have the e-mail addresses. I only use it for the PDML considering that it is archived for anyone to read, what difference does it make? :-)

Re: What is Gmail?

2005-11-04 Thread Tom Reese
I'm way too paranoid to use it: http://www.google-watch.org/gmail.html reese, you're too paranoid to use tap water... Oh, now you're after me too?

Re: Yo Collin! Chicago wins.

2005-10-27 Thread Tom Reese
It was an entertaining Series. One of the best I've seen in a while. I do hope they get some better umpires for the next one. Enjoy your celebration Paul. You Chicagoans waited long enough for it. Is there room on that Sox bandwagon for all the Cubs fans? Tom Reese No goats about it, No curses

Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side

2005-10-27 Thread Tom Reese
I still don't know about this. In my mind, these lenses have too many custom parts for them to bother making a single lens. The lens barrels, the focusing helixes, the diaphragm mechanisms etc have to be different. I can't see Pentax going to their supplier and ordering one of each to build a

Re: Skills - was Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side

2005-10-27 Thread Tom Reese
They don't need to worry about exposure with color negative film. There's enough latitude that a three stop miss will still give usable results. I've saw evidence of that at the photo shop. We used to do a lot of processing for pros. When they started making the transition to digital you could

Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side

2005-10-26 Thread Tom Reese
Cotty wrote: I've booked my sex change op for the end of the month. Fare ye well Cotty. Enter Cottrina! Uuuurh... Now there's a mental image that would make strong men weep. Okay Tom, think Monty Python Tom (the nauseous) Reese

Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side

2005-10-26 Thread Tom Reese
relatively easy for them to do something like that. It's an interesting thought. Tom Reese

Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side

2005-10-26 Thread Tom Reese
William Robb wrote: It took almost 3 months to get my A15mm from Pentax. yeah but you had to wait for the mule train to make its way across 4000 miles of wilderness to get to you. Tom Reese

Re: Snake in Oxford

2005-10-26 Thread Tom Reese
Try birds with anything less than 420mm :-) Easy. Pack em with sawdust first. then nail them to their perch

Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side

2005-10-25 Thread Tom Reese
that's in the pipeline. Give them a break for crissakes. Tom Reese

Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side

2005-10-25 Thread Tom Reese
a $10 fee for that, and I had to call them up and get it reversed. Your bank charges the store a fee on a credit card transaction. The store charges the bank a fee on a debit card transaction. Tom Reese

Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side

2005-10-25 Thread Tom Reese
mouth and give it to me. My thumbs getting all wrinkly. :) You really shouldn't give me a straight line like that. Tom Reese

Re: More Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-23 Thread Tom Reese
Which brings up something I have been worrying about since early childhood, just what in the hell are P's and Q's? http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen01/gen01325.htm

Re: More Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
://www.treas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.html Tom Reese

Re: Today I Was Stopped by the Police While Photographing

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
mistakes and endanger too many people then that freedom is taken away. Tom Reese

Re: OT: Good news for Annsan!

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
Scrabble is now available in a Welsh version! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4308262.stm So you can start expanding your horizons a bit more, Ann! ;-) with all those big long words, the scores must be astronomical! The letter distribution must be interesting. There must be a ton of Fs

Re: OT: Good news for Annsan!

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
On 20/10/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: I was interested in trying to learn the Welsh language a while back but the materials are quite hard to come by here in the US. Then there's the fact that I'd probably never meet anyone I could converse with anyway. Well, you could have

Re: OT: Good news for Annsan!

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
, your mention of Patagonia surprised me. I had to go looking and found this: http://www.patagonia-argentina.com/i/content/la_gente_galesa.htm I learned something quite interesting today. Thanks. Tom Reese

Re: Today I Was Stopped by the Police While Photographing

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
route we'll take? I don't infringe on anyones rights by driving my car. I'll base my trips on the price of fuel. That's how the free market works. Tom Reese

Re: Today I Was Stopped by the Police While Photographing

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
the call to justify his questioning you. Tom Reese

Re: Today I Was Stopped by the Police While Photographing

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
??? It has to do with probable cause. A car leaving a bar's parking lot isn't probable cause. A car weaving on the highway is. Would you have the cops search everyone leaving the bank to see if they robbed it? Tom Reese

best science photos of 2005

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/photogalleries/sciencephotos/index.html Tom Reese

Re: Today I Was Stopped by the Police While Photographing

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
Frantisek wrote: But you can label me a pinky and I can label you a gas-guzzling redneck ;-) Or we can get back to photography :) I'd rather continue the name calling you son of a motherless goat. Tom Reese

Re: Today I Was Stopped by the Police While Photographing

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Reese
my car. I earned the right to drive it by proving my proficiency. Government does not confer privileges on its citizens. It confers rights. The licensing system obviously works extremely well. Do you notice how there are never any accidents and no one ever gets hurt? Tom Reese

Re: new ebay scam

2005-10-19 Thread Tom Reese
started to sound extremely suspicious. I told him I was no longer interested. Tom Reese Vic Mortelmans wrote: I had something similar on a bid I made once. After a while, I got a message that a higher bid came in on the item, but when the item ended, I didn't get the expected you've lost the bid

Re: I'm back 5D news

2005-10-19 Thread Tom Reese
arguing about the perceived lack of support for the old lenses. Oh yeah, Shel is now dancing with the devil. Tom Reese

Re: More Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Reese
of zealotry. Tom Reese

Re: More Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Reese
Cotty wrote: But its miles better than walking around clubbing each other with sticks. Hey, you're gonna spoil all the GFM fun with that attitude. Tom Reese

Re: PESO - Perspective (Grown up's perspective on Child's world)

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Reese
Stepping back a scosh That more or less than a tad? More than a smidge. But less than a fraction? But slightly more than a bit. and three lots less than a shitload

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