P. J. Alling wrote:
It wouldn't be all that expensive. How many lens mounts are there in
Digital currently?
Pentax, Canon, Minolta, Nikon, 4/3, and now Leica.
They could probably dispense with Leica.
In fact get an Adaptal II Macro, (focal length is even relatively
unimportant), for the
On May 15, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
... Unfortunately, it will also be completely useless for
customers, as none of
them will ever use that camera that way.
The lens tests of an earlier generation, from Popular Photography and
Modern Photography magazines amongst others,
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OK, that looks like a good method for removing variations.
Unfortunately, it will also be completely useless for customers, as none
of
them will ever use that camera that way.
Very few use cameras
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The lens tests of an earlier generation, from Popular Photography and
Modern Photography magazines amongst others, were made on an optical
bench and measured via instrumentation, IIRC.
OK, that was fine for knowing maximum lens performance, in case someone one
day
I said for resolution comparison tests. They could, in fact should,
still test the camera with whatever kit lens came with the camera, for
handling etc.
Dario Bonazza wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
It wouldn't be all that expensive. How many lens mounts are there in
Digital currently?
William Robb wrote:
From: Dario Bonazza
Subject: Re: Amazon buys dpreview.com
OK, that looks like a good method for removing variations.
Unfortunately, it will also be completely useless for customers, as none
of
them will ever use that camera that way.
Very few use cameras the way
P. J. Alling wrote:
I said for resolution comparison tests. They could, in fact should,
still test the camera with whatever kit lens came with the camera, for
handling etc.
Fine, I agree.
Dario
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From: Dario Bonazza
Subject: Re: Amazon buys dpreview.com
OK, that looks like a good method for removing variations.
Unfortunately, it will also be completely useless for customers, as none
of
them will ever use that camera that way.
Very few use cameras the way they are tested anyway
Dario Bonazza wrote:
OK, I think we are approaching an agreement here, Just ask Phil to test
each camera with its Craponar zoom lens (just to see how the combo
performs in actual use) AND with a SMC VMC GHT Anti-halo DA+FA[ZA]
I would laugh it it was just on the web.
John Francis wrote:
Welcome to the wired (or Wired :-) world.
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 01:29:45PM -0400, graywolf wrote:
Well, I can remember a time when the people writing the articles were
expected to know more about the subject than the people
If they used a different film for each camera they tested back in the
old days, The Leica with Tri-X was worse grain than the Contax with
Kodachrome II, you would have about what you have now.
The norm for testing a 35mm camera was to use the manufactures best 50mm
lens, and Kodachome 25. That
Jeff Post wrote:
Hmm, I wonder if the vast majority of mid to low tier camera Pentax
K100\K110, Cannon 30D\Rebel, Nikon D200\D50) users ever move the
selector dial off automatic.
Nope, they don't. I tutor people in photography around here and most of
them won't even think of switching off
In a way, Phil Askey has been very astute: By building a site that
offers detailed technical reviews aimed at people who aren't interested
and/or couldn't understand them, he's created a mainstream photo web
site with and aura of technical expertise. Perfect for mass market
appeal with maximum
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:28:15 -0400
If they used a different film for each camera they tested back in the
old days, The Leica with Tri-X was worse grain than the Contax with
Kodachrome II
I'd like to whop those people too...
Mark Roberts wrote:
Jeff Post wrote:
Hmm, I wonder if the vast majority of mid to low tier camera Pentax
K100\K110, Cannon 30D\Rebel, Nikon D200\D50) users ever move the
selector dial off automatic.
Nope, they don't. I tutor people in
On 15/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
No one forces me to read DPReview. Or Imaging-Resource, or Steve's
Digicams, or Photo-I, or PhotoZone, or any of the other dozen or two
product review sites I frequent.
Except Kenny-boy's site. Come on - admit it.
Actually there
On 16/05/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There does seem to be a high level of resentment/bitterness in some
responses.
I suppose the fear of point non-acceptance and worthy counters raise
anxiety to an uncomfortable level in the less secure.
Seems a logical assessment, many of the
On May 15, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Cotty wrote:
Except Kenny-boy's site. Come on - admit it.
Actually there can't be many who are not forced to read it...
My brother reads Ken's site. It horrifies me.
G
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If only Pentax was astute in their field. ;-)
Hell, I'd take standing in their field..
WW
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I think dpreview has simply chosen to highlight the latter, since they
figure most viewers of their site live in the real world. ;-)
It seems to me that there has been a bit of a sea change related to camera
Yep, they bought it from Phil today.
Now where will we go for our misinformation?
Bob
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Same place, just with less personality.
Bob Shell wrote:
Yep, they bought it from Phil today.
Now where will we go for our misinformation?
Bob
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On 14/5/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
Same place, just with less personality.
I've already made my mind up where I'm going for my photo news from now on
http://tinyurl.com/eqbey
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Monday, May 14, 2007, 3:00:49 PM, you wrote:
BS Yep, they bought it from Phil today.
BS Now where will we go for our misinformation?
BS Bob
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Cheers
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Yep, they bought it from Phil today.
Now where will we go for our misinformation?
Bob
On May 14, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
Ken Rockwell is still for sale grin
For what, $ 2.98?
Bob
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Now where will we go for our misinformation?
Bob
I find dpreview less biased than this mailing list.
Tom C.
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I find dpreview less biased than this mailing list.
MARK !
Kenneth Waller
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon buys dpreview.com
Now where will we go for our misinformation?
Bob
I find
hmmma site that caters to all different makes of cameras is less
biased than a list that caters to a specific single brand...amazing!
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Monday, May 14, 2007, 4:13:28 PM, you wrote:
Now where will we go for our misinformation?
Bob
TC I find dpreview less biased than this mailing
.
Hence my disagreement about it being a source of misinformation.
Tom C.
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:30:54 -0700
hmmma site
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Ken Rockwell is still for sale grin
You couldn't even sell him to JCO.
William Robb
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are with our own cameras.
TC Hence my disagreement about it being a source of misinformation.
TC Tom C.
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:30:54
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From: Bob Shell
Subject: Amazon buys dpreview.com
Yep, they bought it from Phil today.
Now where will we go for our misinformation?
Gotta love the internet.
Someone who knows nothing can set themselves up as someone who knows
something, and them make a whack
I usually don't get point across very well in one sentence posts, in case
you haven't noticed. :-)
Tom C.
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Date: Mon, 14 May
What? ;-)
Tim Typo
Mostly Harmless
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I usually don't get point across very well in one sentence posts, in case
you haven't noticed. :-)
Tom
DPReview.com's review data is pretty good on specifications and
features but his tests and judgments are of questionable credibility.
Many people take what's said in the tests as being hard fact, which
is misinformed.
Thus it is a source of misinformation.
G
On May 14, 2007, at 4:36 PM,
On May 14, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Cotty wrote:
Same place, just with less personality.
I've already made my mind up where I'm going for my photo news from
now on
http://tinyurl.com/eqbey
(small quicktime file)
Ugh.
G
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are with our own
cameras.
Hence my disagreement about it being a source of misinformation.
Tom C.
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2007
Ditto. DPReview is just okay. They don;t seem to completely grasp why
differences in in-camera processing could swing either way. Nor why
RAW results are more important. But rest assured that all DPReview
tests will, from this day forward, be very positive. Money talks.
Paul
On May 14, 2007,
The major issue I have with Phil is his insistence on testing primarily
in JPEG mode. His tests are designed for, and quite good for, PS
cameras. They do not adequately reflect real-world SLR performance.
-Adam
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
DPReview.com's review data is pretty good on
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