Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-09-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Leon, I know that. But such a thing would defeat the purpose of Live View which IMO is to show me the subject on the camera screen all the time. Anyway, I don't think that I will be using the Live View all too often, and my remark was more of an observation. In fact, I reckon that the 3rd

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I would assume that the PDF file I linked to is the latest manual. If you open that PDF file in Acrobat, select the Pages tab, and click on the page labeled 310 it will take you to the page numbered 308. Under the column headed problem, scan down the page to Shake Reduction Doesn't Work.

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-28 Thread paul stenquist
Read carefully Peter. The note on page 308 is a troubleshooting guide that tells you what to do if shake reduction doesn't work. It says that when panning or shooting at night with slow shutter speeds, it may not work. In other words, SR won't eliminate shake in a slow shutter pan. I

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-28 Thread paul stenquist
Gotta read my posts before I hit the send key! That should have said And personal experimentation is always the best way to arrive at the truth. On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:29 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Read carefully Peter. The note on page 308 is a troubleshooting guide that tells you what to

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-28 Thread Leon Altoff
Boris, You comment about auto focus being slow in Live View. You can set the K7 to use the standard autofocus detectors rather than Contrast AF. It removes the live view image for a split second, but it's a lot quicker than waiting for contrast AF to do it's thing. -- Leon 2009/8/27 Boris

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-28 Thread George Sinos
I have to agree with Paul on this one. The general advice in the photo world is to turn off SR/VR/IS when the camera is supported or when panning. In reality, I've almost always forget to turn it off, and haven't ever had an image degraded because of it. Now, I just leave it on and foget about

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-28 Thread Doug Franklin
George Sinos wrote: I have to agree with Paul on this one. The general advice in the photo world is to turn off SR/VR/IS when the camera is supported or when panning. In reality, I've almost always forget to turn it off, and haven't ever had an image degraded because of it. Now, I just leave

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Charles, I think that if you have a good copy of K10D it would be a mistake to sell it. I for one, am going to keep my K10D for as long as it lasts. I second that. Pentax have made a terrible mess of their formerly excellent customer service, so a

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread paul stenquist
I sold my K10D on ebay about a month ago. I got $400 U.S. Kept the k20D as my backup. It has less high ISO noise than the K10D in normal shooting, and with more resolution, a tighter crop is always an option. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Boris Liberman

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I sold my K10D on ebay about a month ago. I got $400 U.S. Kept the k20D as my backup. It has less high ISO noise than the K10D in normal shooting, and with more resolution, a tighter crop is always an option. Unfortunately, the K20D is even more

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling
It's funny, I hadn't had a camera with SR until I got the K20D, so I didn't notice the removal of the SR switch in the Pictures of the K-7. The SR switch is a shooting control. Maybe not as important as manual control of the focus point, but until Pentax comes up with an SR system that's

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
P. J. Alling wrote: It's funny, I hadn't had a camera with SR until I got the K20D, so I didn't notice the removal of the SR switch in the Pictures of the K-7. The SR switch is a shooting control. Maybe not as important as manual control of the focus point, but until Pentax comes up with an SR

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
In shooting mode, push the INFO button and you have several controls available there, including SR on/off. Not as direct as a hardware switch, but not far from it. Much better than navigating the ever-increasing menus. I forgot to mention that I've disabled the status screen, in order to

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Toine
Boris, What do you think of the camera strap. My old MX's had those triangle shape camera straps and the black paint vanished quickly due to the silly camera strap system. I don't understand why they implemented this (retro look probably). Toine 2009/8/26 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Here

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I pan with the K7. No problems: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/17/automobiles/collectibles/0817-woodward_8.html I also pan with the K20D with SR turned on. It doesn't cause any problems. The sweeping motion of a pan is far outside the range of motion that SR tries to control. Paul

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
I turn off the SR when panning (when I remember to) and I've read that others do the same. Whether it makes a difference, I've no idea.(?) Jack --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Boris reviews Pentax K

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Not a clue, Toine. I see what you're asking about but this is the very first time I get such a strap system. If you ask some time in the future, I might be able to tell you more though in the manual it is shown to use the little stripes of leather-like material while attaching the camera

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Not a clue, Toine. I see what you're asking about but this is the very first time I get such a strap system. If you ask some time in the future, I might be able to tell you more though in the manual it is shown to use the little stripes of

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread John Francis
When I got my K10D I conducted a few experiments, and found that leaving SR enabled while panning was at the worst harmless, and in fact probably helped to smooth out irregularities in the pan. Since then the only time I've turned SR off is when shooting on a tripod (and then only if I remember

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:00:08AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit: Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... I've never needed to turn the shake reduction off in the K20D. If I have the camera on a tripod on a really

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I've never needed to turn the shake reduction off in the K20D. If I have the camera on a tripod on a really solid substrate -- bedrock, concrete footings -- I don't get any benefit from it, but I haven't seen any harm from it, either. I've just recenty

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 07:50:27PM +0200, Ralf R. Radermacher scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I've never needed to turn the shake reduction off in the K20D. If I have the camera on a tripod on a really solid substrate -- bedrock, concrete footings -- I don't get any benefit from

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread paul stenquist
I shot from a 30-foot high scissors lift with the K7 and a modest tripod (a Slik carbon fiber). The lift wasn't perfectly still, but I would wait to release the shutter until I couldn't sense any movement. Shake reduction was on, and I experienced no problems. On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:59 PM,

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Aug 27, 2009, at 07:00 , P. J. Alling wrote: Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Well they tell you not to, and I've tried a couple of pans, which should have come out in my opinion, which looked somewhat double exposed... Paul Stenquist wrote: I pan with the K7. No problems: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/17/automobiles/collectibles/0817-woodward_8.html I

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread P. J. Alling
To everyone who thinks the Pentax has decided that SR can be left on while panning, perhaps they should update their documentation. Page two on this PDF hosted at the Pentaximaging.com site http://www.pentaximaging.com/pdf/All_Bodies_Shake_Reduction_012208.pdf or the K-7 manual on page 310 of

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Page 310 of the K7 manual deals with SD card capacity in different modes. Page 2 of the PDF at the Pentaximaging.com site says shake reduction can be turned off when panning. Doesn't say it has to be turned off. I know that great pan results can be achieved with SR left on. I make

Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Here goes; http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-k-7-review-part-2.html Be brutal and honest. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-26 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 26, 2009, at 14:23, Boris Liberman wrote: Here goes; http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-k-7-review-part-2.html Be brutal and honest. Additionally, the LV button is placed in such a way that it is quite easy to click it when moving your finger so as to change AF mode.

Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)

2009-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Charles Robinson wrote: Additionally, the LV button is placed in such a way that it is quite easy to click it when moving your finger so as to change AF mode. Certain additional care is in order. I had a problem with this when the viral tour came through Minneapolis. I kept hitting the LV