Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-17 Thread Christine Nielsen
with any of the other cameras. Good luck!  MCC - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Can we talk about fill flash pttl? Last night, I attended a portrait workshop

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-17 Thread Christine Nielsen
Hi Dario, Thanks for your many replies! :) I think you were on track in your first reply -- it was still very bright out, and the camera, set to AV, wanted a fast shutter speed (1/500 +), even at ISO 200. After my first shot, I smacked my forehead and realized high speed synch would be the way

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-17 Thread Mark Cassino
: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl? Hi Dario, Thanks for your many replies!  :) I think you were on track in your first reply -- it was still very bright out

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-17 Thread Mark Cassino
List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl? Mark, thank you very much for your thoughts.  It's encouraging to know that you are able to make pttl work for you, even at close range... Your comment: On overcast cloudy days I may set

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-07-17 11:52 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Hi Dario, Thanks for your many replies! :) I think you were on track in your first reply -- it was still very bright out, and the camera, set to AV, wanted a fast shutter speed (1/500 +), even at ISO 200. After my first shot, I smacked my

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-16 Thread Mark Cassino
compensation with the K7 than I did with any of the other cameras. Good luck!  MCC - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Can we talk about fill flash pttl? Last night, I

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-16 Thread Dario Bonazza
Christine Nielsen wrote: Last night, I attended a portrait workshop. We were shooting at the beach, at the end of the day. It was still very bright, and in the shade of a lighthouse, some fill was required on our models' faces. No problem. I had the AF540 on my k-7...using aperture priority

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-16 Thread Dario Bonazza
I wrote: Christine, I don't think the P-TTL works perfectly (far from that!), but the bad problem you are reporting usually happens when you use aperture priority and have aperture ISO settings so that he camera would use fast shutter speeds (e.g. 1/500 sec) in bright sunlight. At that

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-16 Thread Dario Bonazza
Christine, In case of low-light shooting, I find the best way for using flash is to set the camera in M mode for exposing the environment and then add some flash for the main subject in the foreground. Also try spot metering, especially in case of a small subject against a wide underexposed

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-16 Thread Dario Bonazza
Christine, In case of low-light shooting, I find the best way for using flash is to set the camera in M mode for exposing the environment and then add some flash for the main subject in the foreground. Also try spot metering, especially in case of a small subject against a wide underexposed

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-14 Thread Leon Altoff
Hi Christine, Can I ask what lens you were using? I had this sort of problem using an A lens. It improved when I set the focal length for the shake reduction (don't ask me why), though it was still not correct it was then controlable. Leon On 14 July 2011 01:11, Christine Nielsen

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-14 Thread Christine Nielsen
I was using the DA* 50-135... -c On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Christine, Can I ask what lens you were using? I had this sort of problem using an A lens. It improved when I set the focal length for the shake reduction (don't ask me why), though

Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
Last night, I attended a portrait workshop. We were shooting at the beach, at the end of the day. It was still very bright, and in the shade of a lighthouse, some fill was required on our models' faces. No problem. I had the AF540 on my k-7...using aperture priority mode, and -1.5 Flash EV, I

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:11, Christine Nielsen wrote: Last night, I attended a portrait workshop. We were shooting at the beach, at the end of the day. It was still very bright, and in the shade of a lighthouse, some fill was required on our models' faces. No problem. I had the AF540 on my

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-07-13 11:11 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Last night, I attended a portrait workshop. We were shooting at the beach, at the end of the day. It was still very bright, and in the shade of a lighthouse, some fill was required on our models' faces. No problem. I had the AF540 on my

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: But where were you applying the -1.5 comp: on the K-7 itself (ie in the flash menu), or on the back of the flash?  This makes a big difference.  I find that applying exp comp on the flash generally works better then

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Much my experience as well, sadly.  I think the problem is that we're using Pentax gear.  :-( k7 is much BETTER than the K10D for this kind of thing, but it is still far from perfect.  I have the same combo with

can we talk about fill flash pttl

2011-07-13 Thread Bipin Gupta
Hi Christine, I too have been frustrated with fill flash on my K20D, whether using the Built-in flash, or the Metz 58AF-1 (some say better than the Pentax AF540FGZ) or the Quantaray QTB-9550D w/Promaster 5050DXR PTTL module. In fact the Built-in flash gave better results in the Green Mode on my

RE: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Christine Nielsen Last night, I attended a portrait workshop. We were shooting at the beach, at the end of the day. It was still very bright, and in the shade of a lighthouse, some fill was required on our models' faces. No problem. I had the AF540 on my k-7...using aperture priority

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread David J Brooks
I have/had the same problems with my K10D. Each shot was different and i spent more time fiddling that shooting. The CLS system Nikon has works a lot better for me with way less fiddle time. Usually set and shoot. Therefore when flash is needed for any of my photos the D200 and SB800 come along.

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Toine
What shutter speed did the camera select. My habit is setting the sync to slow speed sync or the camera in M mode. If the meter wants 1/60 and the sync speed is normal the camera selects 1/125 or 1/180 and the flash suddenly is the primary light source. Toine On Wednesday, 13 July 2011, Christine

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I see questions like this quite often when I'm teaching workshops, from people with all different kinds of camera-flash systems. If you want to understand using a dedicated, auto-metering flash system like this, see Joe McNally's books, workshops and videos. They're based on Nikon equipment and

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:57, David J Brooks wrote: Therefore when flash is needed for any of my photos the D200 and SB800 come along. Even the D200 pop up is more accurate than the Pentax system IMO. Frankly, even the K-7 popup is more accurate in fill-flash conditions than the AF540 (on the

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread William Robb
On 13/07/2011 9:11 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote: What am I doing wrong? Pentax TTL flash control has always been pretty awful. To this day, I still set everything manually and use a big dumb auto flash that uses a PC cord to attach to the camera. It's sad when a 25 year old flash using

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
Thanks for your reply, Godfrey. Everything you said syncs with everything I've been taught about using flash... And your recommendation: When I do use TTL flash automation systems for fill flash, I find the only way to get consistent results with almost any camera and flash system is to: -

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm not sure what you're doing wrong, but I usually have no problem getting the AF540 to work as fill. In daylight, you do have to use high speed synch mode of course, and the flash will revert to a 1/180th shutter speed if you don't override it. I generally use program P mode on the K-5 and

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The other problem I've had with the AF540 is you can't set it the way you want it and have it stay there. If it powers down, it reverts to full power when you wake it back up. Funny, there's a problem I haven't had.

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wednesday, July 13, 2011, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: ... Is 'zactly what I did. (manual exposure/ pttl flash/ -1.5 to -2EV/ hss was one of my iterations)  Still, I got uneven results.  Now, maybe I still goofed in setting the flash EV in camera rather than on the unit... or

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 13, 2011, at 12:05, Christine Nielsen wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The other problem I've had with the AF540 is you can't set it the way you want it and have it stay there. If it powers down, it reverts to full power when you

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-07-13 1:15 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jul 13, 2011, at 12:05, Christine Nielsen wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The other problem I've had with the AF540 is you can't set it the way you want it and have it stay there. If it powers

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, July 13, 2011, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: ... Is 'zactly what I did. (manual exposure/ pttl flash/ -1.5 to -2EV/ hss was one of my iterations)  Still, I got uneven results.  Now, maybe I

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: And it's worth noting that these flashes, when set to wireless slaves, will not power off until after an hour of non-use.  So you don't tend to ever see the revert to default P-TTL behaviour when working with remotes.

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not sure what you're doing wrong, but I usually have no problem getting the AF540 to work as fill. In daylight, you do have to use high speed synch mode of course, and the flash will revert to a 1/180th shutter

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
The ceiling can be used as a diffuser, and there are diffusers that clip onto the flash or fit over the head. The 540 also has a mini bounce card and diffuser built in. But I use a Sto-Fen Omni-Bounce most of the time for any work where I'm closer than 15 feet or so.

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-07-13 2:50 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Bear with me for one more question? When you say diffuser, what do you mean in this situation? I use diffusers all the time with off-camera flash, but on-camera, what do you prefer? I have resisted purchasing the sto-fen/tupperware-type

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Distance may have been a factor.  We were in fairly tight quarters, huddled in the shade of the lighthouse... Bear with me for one more question?  When you say diffuser, what do you mean in this situation?  I use

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've been less than happy with the LumiQuest Softbox III. It's harsh as an on-camera diffuser with a hot spot in the middle. For on-camera I much prefer the Omni-Bounce, with the flash head tilted up at 45 degrees or the Lightsphere. Paul On Jul 13, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread P. J. Alling
I usuall do fill flash the old fashioned way, because you know, there's no sensors to get confused and screw up exposure. On 7/13/2011 11:11 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Last night, I attended a portrait workshop. We were shooting at the beach, at the end of the day. It was still very

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Christine Nielsen On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The other problem I've had with the AF540 is you can't set it the way you want it and have it stay there. If it powers down, it reverts to full power when you wake it back up. Funny, there's a

Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl?

2011-07-13 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Can we talk about fill flash pttl? Thanks for your reply, Godfrey. Everything you said syncs with everything I've been taught about