Paul Stenquist wrote:
ACR works fine with K10D images as long as their saved as DNG format.
there is subtle difference between being able to read and being able
to render as intended by camera manufacturer. Sure, ACR can read DNG
files from K10D, but seeing results I'm not convinced it renders
Thanks Bob. They do have a great relationship. When my mom walks down
the hall with her walker, Grace helps her along. BTW, sorry for
reposting the same shot. But it is a good example of relatively low
noise at 1600.
Paul
On Dec 2, 2006, at 1:28 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Paul,
I love the
With ACR, you can render an image any way you choose. The range of
adjustment is considerable. I've now processed several hundred K10 DNGs
with ACR. No problem achieving good results with any of them.
Paul
On Dec 2, 2006, at 4:44 AM, Bronek Kozicki wrote:
Paul Stenquist wrote:
ACR works fine
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Thanks Bob. They do have a great relationship. When my mom walks down
the hall with her walker, Grace helps her along. BTW, sorry for
reposting the same shot.
It is incredible, don't apologise.
Kostas
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That's Adobe Camera Raw. You can try it in Photoshop or Elements. It was
my understanding from some of your posts that you're using Elements. Did I
misunderstand those earlier posts?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Bob Sullivan
What is ACR? Where can I try it?
Regards, Bob S.
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Paul,
What is ACR? Where can I try it?
Regards, Bob S.
On 12/2/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With ACR, you can render an image any way you choose. The range of
adjustment is considerable. I've now processed several hundred K10 DNGs
with ACR. No problem achieving good results
Shel,
I'm using Photoshop Elements 5.0, but it's not opening the K10d RAW files.
Is there something that I'm missing to get to ARC?
Regards, Bob S.
On 12/2/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's Adobe Camera Raw. You can try it in Photoshop or Elements. It was
my understanding
Are you shooting DNG or PEF format. Elements can only read DNG's from
the K10D at the moment.
-Adam
Bob Sullivan wrote:
Shel,
I'm using Photoshop Elements 5.0, but it's not opening the K10d RAW files.
Is there something that I'm missing to get to ARC?
Regards, Bob S.
On 12/2/06, Shel
Yes - for the time being you'll need to use the DNG files until Adobe
releases an updated Camera Raw, which they do frequently as new cameras
come out. I'm not positive when the last release was, but I believe it was
on October 31 or so, v3.6, but I don't know if it covers the K10D PEF files
Here is my first posted K10D image. It is very qd with no processing
except for Auto Levels. I was just giving shake reduction a first try.
Boy did I get a nasty surprise:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21099553
Please, help me out here, gang. What should I
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Here is my first posted K10D image. It is very qd with no processing
except for Auto Levels. I was just giving shake reduction a first try.
Boy did I get a nasty surprise:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21099553
Please, help me out
Hard to see how noisy it is in a small web image. My ISO 800 images are
definitely not very noisy. The blue looks like it might be a reflecti0n of the
carpet. or something else. Time to take your meds and shoot some real
photographs.
Paul
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I hope you still have these RAWs? Process them with PPL. ACR is not
calibrated to K10D yet, I guess this where all these extra colors are
coming from. Besides, you did not push EV in processing, did you?
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No EV pushing or anything fancy. I was just trying shake reduction.
I have tried
Hard to see how noisy it is in a small web image.
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Paul, I uploaded that at 2400 pixels wide. So I don't know why you would
be seeing it as a small image.
Joe
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Joseph Tainter wrote:
Here is my first posted K10D image. It is very qd with no processing
except for Auto Levels.
^^^
I only now noticed - here is culprit. Do not use ACR autolevels. Just
say no. If you want auto look, shoot JPEG (or even better - RAW+ ).
And another
I only now noticed - here is culprit. Do not use ACR autolevels. Just
say no. If you want auto look, shoot JPEG (or even better - RAW+ ).
And another thing: in Pentax DLSRs , white balance should be set before
shot even if you use RAW. And because these cameras have rather poor
auto white balance,
Joe,
Out of curiousity, have you tried many other shots that are of very
different subjects. It would be good to determine if it looks like
this in all of them or just this instance. I would also isolate the
SR tests from the color/noise tests. You test too many things at once
and it makes it
Since the camera is right there, you should take a bunch of photos of
various things to see what it will do.
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Oh, I did, Bruce. I took a couple of outdoor photos with the FA 31 and
DA 16-45 at ISO 100. They were fine. This was image number 5 on the
camera. It brought me to a halt.
I plan
My guess is that there is too much dynamic range there between the
bright wall and the dark paintings. This is complicated also by the two
different color temperature light sources, one (daylight?) coming from
the left side, the other (incandescent?) coming from the right side,
making it
Joe,
The K10D won't be the first camera to produce odd colours with mixed
light colours. :-)
Actually I think your test shot at DPreview didn't look too bad, but
maybe I'm not looking closely enough.
So far I've only made one shot with mine, at 1/2s exposure time with
31mm ltd. I know I'm going
This is complicated also by the two different color temperature light
sources, one (daylight?) coming from the left side, the other
(incandescent?) coming from the right side,
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Thanks. You could be right. This may have been too much of a torture
test for the sensor.
Joe
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I think that is the trick. Don't let it bring you to a halt. Now is
the time to experiment and learn and even compare against your *istD
when you hit a circumstance that seems to be out of line. Can you
recreate the bad shot (repeat it consistently? If so, try the exact
same thing with the
Joe,
You're shooting in mixed light, and that's difficult with any media. I ran
into a somewhat similar situation (please note, I'm not saying it's a
problem) in which I was dealing with tungsten and daylight. The cure comes
in the post processing. I was able to eliminate the excess blue with
ACR works fine with K10D images as long as their saved as DNG format.
Paul
On Dec 1, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Bronek Kozicki wrote:
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Here is my first posted K10D image. It is very qd with no processing
except for Auto Levels. I was just giving shake reduction a first
try.
Boy
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Tainter
Subject: First K10D Post: Trying to Stay Calm
Here is my first posted K10D image. It is very qd with no processing
except for Auto Levels. I was just giving shake reduction a first try.
Boy did I get a nasty surprise:
http
I've shot more than 100 pics indoors at both 800 and 1600 with the
K10D. No problems with color, even given a mix of tungsten and window
light, although that can sometimes lead to a compromise. But It
behaves in a normal way. Better than the D to be sure. If you haven't
seen any of the
Make that as long as they're saved as DNG format.
:-)
On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
ACR works fine with K10D images as long as their saved as DNG format.
Paul
On Dec 1, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Bronek Kozicki wrote:
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Here is my first posted K10D image. It
On Dec 1, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Make that as long as they're saved as DNG format.
I've read some, but I'm still confused as to the apprehension about.
It's an open format, correct? Is there a risk of lock-in/betrothal
to Adobe? Forgive me for not searching the thread
Not that I'm aware of. I was just pointing out that you had to save
K10D files as DNG to use ACR. That's the way I'm working, and I'll
probably continue to work that way, since I use PSCS on my
photography computer, and I believe only PSCS2 will get support for
K10D PEF files. But I see no
No data for the image is lost, and it doesn't look like any EXIF is
lost. I experimented with this a few days ago. I appended what I
posted then.
I found it interesting that a PEF converted to a DNG creates a much
larger file than just shooting DNG in the first place.
You can see that the
What the hell do you expect, miracles?
Uh...yes.
Joe
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Paul,
I love the relationship between Grace and her Great Grandmother.
(I had a great grandmother until I was 6 or 8 and have some memories of her,
but we've had our children later in life and a great grandchild is
probably out of the question in my lifetime.) I cannot get over how
much alike
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