Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/2/07, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: and will pre-announce a K1D I better get the cutlery out ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Or doesn't happen:-) On Feb 2, 2007, at 12:24 AM, David Savage wrote: Yep. And we'll keep going over it until it happens. Dave At 02:14 PM 2/02/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Are we going to go through all this crap yet again? This must be the 57th time in two years. G On Feb 1, 2007,

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
They've never promised DFA lenses in short focal lengths, only in the 300 to 600 range. I just don't see them introducing a camera that can't use the new DA* lenses at the same time the DA* lenses go on sale. That would be marketing suicide. Paul On Feb 2, 2007, at 12:05 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Adam Maas
John Francis wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:47:19PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21896693 To present new DSLR's at PMA seems very optimistic. How about announce new DSLR's? I expect the K1D (or whatever it ends up being called)

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote: John Francis wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:47:19PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21896693 To present new DSLR's at PMA seems very optimistic. How about announce new DSLR's? I expect the K1D (or whatever it ends up

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Dario Bonazza
Adam Maas wrote Actually, I wouldn't be shocked for a replacement K100D and K110D to be announced as well. Probably changes will be SSM compatibility and (hopefully) bigger buffers to remain competetive with the D40. I'd love to see sort of an E-400 made by Pentax to that purpose. I mean

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread pnstenquist
Yes. SSM compatibility for the 100 and 110 makes a lot of sense. It complements the DA* lens intro. You can bet that there won't be an incompatible small-format DSLR introduced for many a moon -- if ever. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread P. J. Alling
To release a camera that doesn't keep up in the megapixil wars or one that does with bad high ISO performance would be marketing suicide. Take your choice. I expect that they'll release promise and release the lenses they need to fill in the line and you'll be happy. Paul Stenquist wrote:

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread pnstenquist
I'm not sure that there is a megapixel war. Most advanced amateurs seem quite happy with 10 megapixels. Paul -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To release a camera that doesn't keep up in the megapixil wars or one that does with bad

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread P. J. Alling
Two years ago they were happy with six to eight. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that there is a megapixel war. Most advanced amateurs seem quite happy with 10 megapixels. Paul -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread pnstenquist
And many still are. -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two years ago they were happy with six to eight. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that there is a megapixel war. Most advanced amateurs seem quite happy with 10

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Tom C
the K10D came out, you bought it. Have you asked most advanced amateurs? :-) Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D... Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:40:47 +

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread pnstenquist
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D... Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:40:47 + And many still are. -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two years ago they were happy with six

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Scott Loveless
I'd be happy with three if someone would offer a decent rig with a monochrome sensor. By decent, I mean SLR-like shutter lag times, a prime lens or a narrow zoom, and intuitive manual controls. Basically something that the marketroids would never-ever dream of producing. On 2/2/07, [EMAIL

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Tom C
Subject: Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D... Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:58:19 + To go to a larger sensor would cause a huge price increase. That's why we're happy here :-). Canon still sells the 8 megapixel 30D for more than their 10 megapixel consumer model, and they sell a lot of them

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread Joseph Tainter
Actually, I wouldn't be shocked for a replacement K100D and K110D to be announced as well. Probably changes will be SSM compatibility and (hopefully) bigger buffers to remain competetive with the D40. Hey, I'd forgotten that the K100 and K100 weren't compatible with the SSM lenses. That's a

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-02 Thread P. J. Alling
I expect that's no longer quite true. If it is, then there won't be any SLR manufactures in the relatively near future. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And many still are. -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two years ago they were

In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread jtainter
Plus a little other information: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21896693 Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread npx
Plus a little other information: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21896693 Personally, I'm not too upset that the 645D is on hold for a little while. Regular dSLRs are much more profitable, and Pentax seems to be on a roll right now. Plus, if what they say

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread Tom C
will be in the market for a camera that's likely $5k or more? It doesn't make sense to produce something that will not generate a net profit. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: In case you were

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
From DP Review post * The release of the 645D is postponed in order to priorities on DSLRs The wait begins to look infinite. jtainter wrote: Plus a little other information: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21896693 Joe -- -- The more I know of men,

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread Thibouille
mmm but a 645D is a DSLR isn't it? Quite confusing IMO. 2007/2/1, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From DP Review post * The release of the 645D is postponed in order to priorities on DSLRs The wait begins to look infinite. jtainter wrote: Plus a little other information:

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
I see no confusion here. Pentax sees DSLRs as K mount cameras and the 645D as something else. Thibouille wrote: mmm but a 645D is a DSLR isn't it? Quite confusing IMO. 2007/2/1, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From DP Review post * The release of the 645D is postponed in order

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: From DP Review post * The release of the 645D is postponed in order to priorities on DSLRs The wait begins to look infinite. If the rumours of the next canon being 22MP are accurate (or even close), that would explain the delay. Infinite delay might be the best course

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
This will almost certainly necissitate a lower crop factor. More likely ~1.3x than full-frame, though. I've been expecting something like this for some time. If they intend it to be anything other than marketing hype that is. Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: From DP Review

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
It would obviously have to be an image circle that worked with the current DA lenses. The FAs are almost all out of production and new DAs are being introduced all the time. They won't introduce a camera that has no lens support. Paul On Feb 1, 2007, at 10:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: This

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
A 1.3x crop would be covered by most of the existing DA lenses. I could see them with a warning just like the flash warning built into the ZX-5n when you used a lens, (or just using a focal length on a zoom), that would cause the Flash to Vignette. Sure it's a stopgap but they also have a

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Are we going to go through all this crap yet again? This must be the 57th time in two years. G On Feb 1, 2007, at 9:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: A 1.3x crop would be covered by most of the existing DA lenses. I could see them with a warning just like the flash warning built into the

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread David Savage
Yep. And we'll keep going over it until it happens. Dave At 02:14 PM 2/02/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Are we going to go through all this crap yet again? This must be the 57th time in two years. G On Feb 1, 2007, at 9:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: A 1.3x crop would be covered by most of the

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, for me, I am not waiting on the 645D and have doubts about it's viability in the market. If they were choosing to delay it in favor of more work on DSLR's more like what has recently been done, then I think that is a good direction. It will be interesting to hear something from PMA.

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:47:19PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21896693 To present new DSLR's at PMA seems very optimistic. How about announce new DSLR's? I expect the K1D (or whatever it ends up being called) to be announced

Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread Thibouille
So for Pentax DSLRs means DSLR with sensor smaller then one in 645D or something like that? AFAIK a 645D is technicaly, a DSLR no? Mmm maybe they will announce a K1000D? Would make sense ... I really think they will go K1000D before K1D but I'd also love to be surprised ... 2007/2/2, John