I TOLD YOU (was) Re: JCO is correct

2011-02-03 Thread Tim Øsleby
Sorry John, could not resist ;-) 2011/2/2 Collin Brendemuehl : > Here is a basic comparison of the A35/2 v SuperMultiCoated Takumar 35/2.5 > > > > The full image > > Tak: http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/pentax/Twhole.jpg > PKA: http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/pentax/Awhole2.jpg > > >

Re: JCO is correct

2011-02-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Stan Halpin wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: JCO is correct Mark! My comment was going to be -- "Oh Gd, don't let him know" :-) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to U

Re: JCO is correct

2011-02-02 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >> >> JCO is correct > > > Mark! Beat me to it. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pen

Re: JCO is correct

2011-02-02 Thread Stan Halpin
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > JCO is correct Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

JCO is correct

2011-02-02 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Here is a basic comparison of the A35/2 v SuperMultiCoated Takumar 35/2.5 The full image Tak: http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/pentax/Twhole.jpg PKA: http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/pentax/Awhole2.jpg The two centers Tak: http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/pentax/Tcenter.jpg PKA:

Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
> Now I'm signing off for awhile, I'm shipping my HDTV to Bangladesh and > selling my gear that contains an aperture simulator. > Norm What about your high end audio gear ? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
e temptation to argue with JCO is great and sometimes the only way we can reduce our frustration is to join in Anyway, you've done your penance and it's time to move on. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List &g

Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-22 Thread Norm Baugher
Don't push it... Norm Tim Øsleby wrote: > Norm. You left out a name in this appology ... > > Tim Øsleby > > - Original Message - > From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2

Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-22 Thread Norm Baugher
e have had fun and frustration arguing with JCO, > this is truly uncalled for. I'd like to think you're a bigger and better > person than this post seems to indicate. > > Shel > > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Norm Baugher >> To: pentax-Disc

RE: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
fuck you too Tim jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole? Norm. You left out a name in this appology ... Tim

Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-22 Thread Tim Øsleby
Norm. You left out a name in this appology ... Tim Øsleby - Original Message - From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole? > Shel, you

RE: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
silliness on the list. However, this post, especially the subject, is truly mean-spirited and vulgar. While many here have had fun and frustration arguing with JCO, this is truly uncalled for. I'd like to think you're a bigger and better person than this post seems to indicate. Shel &

Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-21 Thread David Savage
rm > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > Of course not, but we all know NORM BAUGHER > > is an ASSHOLE for posting something of this > > nature, especially without any provocation... > > > > jco > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL

Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-21 Thread Norm Baugher
That's Mr. Asshole to you sir! I was only relaying something I saw on the news this morning. Norm J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Of course not, but we all know NORM BAUGHER > is an ASSHOLE for posting something of this > nature, especially without any provocation... > > jco

RE: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Of course not, but we all know NORM BAUGHER is an ASSHOLE for posting something of this nature, especially without any provocation... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm Baugher Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:19 PM To: pentax

MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-21 Thread Norm Baugher
Now I'm signing off for awhile, I'm shipping my HDTV to Bangladesh and selling my gear that contains an aperture simulator. Norm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO On 4/5/07, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? > > It works if your goal is to start and win arguments. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mai

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
lf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 6. april 2007 14:07 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO Well said and obviously true. Paul On Apr 6, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Bob W wrote: > I really think you should go back to the beginning of the thread about > resolution, and re

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-06 Thread David Savage
On 4/6/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If people hadn't started to snipe at him the thread would have petered > out like any other. But this list has developed a nasty little habit > of picking on John at every little opportunity. It's ugly and it's > time it stopped. That's one take on it.

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/6/2007 5:06:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If people hadn't started to snipe at him the thread would have petered > out like any other. But this list has developed a nasty little habit > of picking on John at every little opportunity. It's ugly

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
- > Bob > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Tim Øsleby >> Sent: 06 April 2007 01:43 >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO >> &g

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's great! Thanks for being so understanding. I knew you'd finally get it. Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell > [...] I am going to start letting people continue > to attack and insult me personally without provocation > and give no response in reply... >[...] that's goin

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-06 Thread Bob W
Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? > > I think the number of posts in the resolution threads > suggests otherwise. > The number of times you have been in similar unpleasant situat

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-05 Thread William Robb
On 4/5/07, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? > > It works if your goal is to start and win arguments. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yeah right, I am going to start letting people continue to attack and insult me personally without provocation and give no response in reply... Like that's going to happen sometime soon... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ø

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
ubject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO If I dont take aggressive countermeasures when attacked agressively, this stuff would never end.. Hopefully these attackers will think twice before they launch into the first stike personal attacks if they know a potential "wrath" in reply may oc

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I wish I knew it as that myself, but thats not my experience unfortunately.. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:59 PM To: pdml Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO I guess I view

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Erickson
e countermeasures when attacked >agressively, this stuff would never end.. >Hopefully these attackers will think twice >before they launch into the first stike >personal attacks if they know a potential >"wrath" in reply may occur... >jco -- PDML Pentax-Discu

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Bbsss frank theriault wrote: > On 4/4/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You're a BOOB. >> > > What have you got against boobs? > > -frank > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon she

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread J. C. O'Connell
If I dont take aggressive countermeasures when attacked agressively, this stuff would never end.. Hopefully these attackers will think twice before they launch into the first stike personal attacks if they know a potential "wrath" in reply may occur... jco -Original Message- Fr

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread William Robb
Could be that having nothing against boobs is his problem WW On 4/4/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/4/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're a BOOB. > > What have you got against boobs? > > -frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cart

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Erickson
o the PDML. --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >yes I do. the CAPS are for emphisis, and I dont >use them all the time, only when needed. I dont >take the stance there is never any need for CAPS >and hence should never be used. >jco > >-Original Message- >F

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread frank theriault
On 4/4/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're a BOOB. What have you got against boobs? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread Scott Loveless
You're a BOOB. -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com J. C. O'Connell wrote: > yes I do. the CAPS are for emphisis, and I dont > use them all the time, only when needed. I dont > take the stance there is never any need for CAPS > and hence should never be used. > jco

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yes I do. the CAPS are for emphisis, and I dont use them all the time, only when needed. I dont take the stance there is never any need for CAPS and hence should never be used. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Erickson
gt;of the posts or the thoughts expressed. >I dont think thats the most important >thing to be concerned with.. >jco > >-Original Message- >From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf >Of >Mark Erickson >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread David Savage
On 4/4/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > However, while I understand Doug's desire not to moderate, maybe he should > > reconsider at least mild moderation. I wonder how many people have left > > over > > the last year because of one person. > > > Sorr

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread Scott Loveless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > However, while I understand Doug's desire not to moderate, maybe he should > reconsider at least mild moderation. I wonder how many people have left over > the last year because of one person. > Sorry. I'll try to be nice. -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/4/2007 8:02:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I barely remember the Who, that's why I haven't kill filed JCO yet, (and I didn't have too much trouble with Brad Dobo so I guess in most cases I've thick skinned). === Di

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread P. J. Alling
I barely remember the Who, that's why I haven't kill filed JCO yet, (and I didn't have too much trouble with Brad Dobo so I guess in most cases I've thick skinned). Minelli Flavio wrote: > Hey, wow. I missed all this... > > Does any of you remember "The Who&quo

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread David J Brooks
erience since blocking JCO > messages a month or two ago. Suggest you do the same. He seeks an > audience. > Regards, Bob S. > > On 4/3/07, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let me ask again: > > > > Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-04 Thread Minelli Flavio
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:38 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO screw you, I do

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
splaying these... My system which is neither state of art, nor expensive displays them fine...Reducing them in size is not the answer in my opinion because the COST in reduced image quality is too high.. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I think your more concerned with CAPITOL LETTERS than your are with the meaning of the posts or the thoughts expressed. I dont think thats the most important thing to be concerned with.. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread Doug Franklin
Mark Erickson wrote: Talk about pissing into the wind ... I like JCO ... I agree with him pretty frequently ... but I'm on the verge of putting him in the killfile because his presentation is annoying. John, please. Take a chill pill and come back when you're less emotionally inve

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark, I've had a peaceful and happy pdml experience since blocking JCO messages a month or two ago. Suggest you do the same. He seeks an audience. Regards, Bob S. On 4/3/07, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me ask again: > > Do you believe that your ALL CAPS

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread Steve Jolly
Cotty wrote: > Ack I've just wet meself. *Canned laughter* S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Witty? Hum... Cotty wrote: > On 3/4/07, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> I believe that most PDML list members look for messages that include >> information, links to galleries, and the odd witty interchange involving >> Cotty. >> > > Ack I've just wet meself. > >

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/4/07, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed: >I believe that most PDML list members look for messages that include >information, links to galleries, and the odd witty interchange involving >Cotty. Ack I've just wet meself. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Plac

Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread Mark Erickson
an $200 NEW. >Thats really not making any sense >whatsoever. Its a personal attack >to attempt to win a losing argument, >plain and simple... > >jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
because I use and recommend a much better screen setup even AFTER I told them it cost less than $200 NEW. Thats really not making any sense whatsoever. Its a personal attack to attempt to win a losing argument, plain and simple... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

The PDML List Demographic and JCO

2007-04-03 Thread Mark Erickson
JC, I believe that the PDML list consists of photo enthusiasts with a specific interest in Pentax equipment. I believe that the PDML list consists largely of intelligent, thoughtful participants. I believe that PDML list participants use the list to share information and images with each o

RE: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBayquestion)

2007-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
most foul. You'r a mean one Mr JCO, I would not touch you with a ten and a half foot pole. People like Stenquest, Godders, Cotty, Roberts have the utmost admeration of myself and this list. As far as i'm concerned you Sir, are the utter, in utmost. incase thats beyond you, i'

RE: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBayquestion)

2007-01-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
t your trying to say happened. Whatever... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold,but worries remain (yet another eBayquestion)

RE: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBayquestion)

2007-01-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You as well as him are both full of it and are only trying to justify what cannot be justified thru falsehoods. I never used the word CLUELESS, as it was NOT used in caps by me, that part is fiction. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet anothereBayquestion)

2007-01-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Hey you, get your facts straight first, I called him clueless in a post but it wasnt in CAPS, so I dont think you have a point, and it certainly did not warrant the extremely pornographic profane reply ( any without any rebuttal to the point I might add) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBayquestion)

2007-01-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul and Dave, You know that I missed the whole thing until you guys quoted him. Dave - you need gmail? The spam filter works great on JCO. Regards, Bob S. On 1/19/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't leave, Dave. I shouldn't have responded to the post w

Re: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBayquestion)

2007-01-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
ct word ) on >> something he was obviously "clueless" about. And if >> you think thats OK, well then me telliing >> you to FUCK OFF should be fine with you >> too then. You are the ultimate hypocrite if >> is isnt. And dont blame me for this outrageous profane

RE: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBayquestion)

2007-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
n > something he was obviously "clueless" about. And if > you think thats OK, well then me telliing > you to FUCK OFF should be fine with you > too then. You are the ultimate hypocrite if > is isnt. And dont blame me for this outrageous profane > list language, beca

RE: PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBayquestion)

2007-01-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
"clueless" about. And if you think thats OK, well then me telliing you to FUCK OFF should be fine with you too then. You are the ultimate hypocrite if is isnt. And dont blame me for this outrageous profane list language, because I am not the one initiating it. Have a nice day, :) JCO -

PISS OFF JCO: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
JCO YOU EAT SHIT PAL. I CANNOT SEEM TO GET MY EMAIL FILTERS TO WORK, ESPECIA;LLY TO GET RID OF YOUR ASSHOLE RELATED, IDIOTIC POST. PAUL STENQUEST POSTED A REPLY, YOU CHOSE TO FLY OFF THE HANDLE AGAIN. SO PLEASE ,AND THIS IS THE ONLY MESSAGES THAT SEEM TO WORK, WOULD YOU FUCK OFF

Did Winston churchill know JCO?

2006-11-25 Thread J and K Messervy
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. - Sir Winston Churchill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-11-09 Thread David Savage
At 04:49 AM 10/11/2006, Gonz wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 10/20/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>- Original Message - > >>From: "David Savage" > >>Subject: RE: The JCO survey > >> > &

Re: The JCO survey

2006-11-09 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 10/20/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>- Original Message - >>From: "David Savage" >>Subject: RE: The JCO survey >> >>>Aren't you? You've said so many times that you have no

RE: The JCO survey - I should start lurking more often.....

2006-11-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The post topic was about the age of the lenses not pentaxnomics. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey - I should start lurking

Re: The JCO survey - I should start lurking more often.....

2006-11-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey - I should start lurking more often. > The age of the lenses is irellavant, its > whether they are compatible with the > current mount and K/M lenses are fully > compatible with th

RE: The JCO survey - I should start lurking more often.....

2006-11-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The age of the lenses is irellavant, its whether they are compatible with the current mount and K/M lenses are fully compatible with the latest mount, pentax is just choosing to disable some of their functions for no technical reason whatsoever. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: The JCO survey - I should start lurking more often.....

2006-11-08 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:54:19 -, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not even worthy of a response. Nonetheless, it seems to have elicited one. :-) John > > John Forbes wrote: >> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:20:26 -, Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> A flagship

Re: The JCO survey - I should start lurking more often.....

2006-11-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Not even worthy of a response. John Forbes wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:20:26 -, Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> A flagship is a flagship, and if there's a K1D in the future, it should >> be as >> complete as the LX was in its day. >> > > Quite right. As complete,

Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize.

2006-11-02 Thread K.Takeshita
On 11/02/06 7:32 PM, "Perry Pellechia", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We all expect perfect messages from you now. > > On 11/2/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> MUCHO GRACIAS! >> JCO But now he is ALL CAPITAL! Ken -- PDML Pentax

Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize.

2006-11-02 Thread Perry Pellechia
We all expect perfect messages from you now. On 11/2/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MUCHO GRACIAS! > JCO > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Perry Pellechia > Sent: Thursday, Novemb

RE: The JCO survey - I need a prize.

2006-11-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
MUCHO GRACIAS! JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Perry Pellechia Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 6:44 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize. 1) Turn off using Word as the email editor: Tools

RE: Mail text formatting: was Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize.

2006-11-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Many Thanks, JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Coyle Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:02 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Mail text formatting: was Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize. John, you may find these tips

Mail text formatting: was Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize.

2006-11-02 Thread John Coyle
ot; Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:18 AM Subject: RE: The JCO survey - I need a prize. > Whatand where is the setting(s) I need to change then? > I have looked all over in many, many, menus for > These settings. I DO blame Bill Gates because these > Are the default settings an

Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize.

2006-11-02 Thread John Forbes
ff in the program settings, but to no avail. Try harder. Everybody else gets it right. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Christian > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:23 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize.

2006-11-02 Thread Perry Pellechia
MAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whatand where is the setting(s) I need to change then? > I have looked all over in many, many, menus for > These settings. I DO blame Bill Gates because these > Are the default settings and they are not easy > To find or shut off, even with the help inform

RE: The JCO survey - I need a prize.

2006-11-02 Thread Tim Øsleby
Christian Sent: 2. november 2006 21:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize. Cotty wrote: > On 2/11/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >>I thinks its time to add, don't start surveys >>And put OTHER people's na

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2006-11-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
advance, JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize. J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Blame Bill Gates. My ms-outlook/word

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2006-11-02 Thread Christian
ed and tried many times to turn > This stuff off in the program settings, but to no avail. > jco You're (you are) the only one it would seem. Sure, push off responsibility to someone else. Why not blame global warming, the economy, our mothers, George W. Bush, sun spots or Cotty?

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2006-11-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/11/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: >Why not blame global warming, the >economy, our mothers, George W. Bush, sun spots or Cotty? You've gone too far this time Christian. What have our mothers done to you!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

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2006-11-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
to turn This stuff off in the program settings, but to no avail. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:23 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey - I need a prize. Cotty wrote

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2006-11-02 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: > On 2/11/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >>I thinks its time to add, don't start surveys >>And put OTHER people's names on them, if it was >>Your survey, which it was in this case, than call it yours. >>jco >

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2006-11-02 Thread ann sanfedele
oooh I thought JCO stood for "Just Counting Opinions" ann ducks Cotty wrote: > On 2/11/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I thinks its time to add, don't start surveys > >And put OTHER people's names on them, if it was > >

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2006-11-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/11/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: >I thinks its time to add, don't start surveys >And put OTHER people's names on them, if it was >Your survey, which it was in this case, than call it yours. >jco That *must* be the last word. D'oh! -- C

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2006-11-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
manual shutter speed Changes, I have to take my finger off the shutter Release button to adjust he shutter dial, so its worse. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lon Williamson Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:42 AM To: Pentax-Discuss

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2006-11-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I thinks its time to add, don't start surveys And put OTHER people's names on them, if it was Your survey, which it was in this case, than call it yours. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lon Williamson Sent: Thursday, Novembe

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2006-11-02 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 2, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Lon Williamson wrote: > Thistles thrown at twenty paces? > Pizza without sauce or cheese? > Rocks in my socks? > Being doomed to listen to JCO forever? > > Penitent, I am, I am... I think being banned forever ought to suffice. Bob -- PDML P

The JCO survey - I need a prize.

2006-11-02 Thread Lon Williamson
Heck folks, I'm usually a lurker but I DID start "The JCO survey". It was intended as a survey, but I'm now thinking it is one of the largest, stupidest, and most bitter threads yet spawned here. I think I deserve a prize. Thistles thrown at twenty paces? Pizza without sauce

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2006-11-02 Thread Lon Williamson
I find this to be true on my M bodies. You can't just use your fore or mid finger to twist the shutter dial easily. My KX bodies, however, don't have as much friction that way. I think this depends on the body. I have 3 MX bodies and 4 KX bodies, so I suspect I have a reassonable sampling of the

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2006-11-01 Thread Adam Maas
It's the camera that replaced the K1000. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Never heard of that one, either. > > Shel > > > > >>[Original Message] >>From: keith_w > >>Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >>>The ZX-M? Never heard of it. > > >>Mfg. 1997. Same camera as the MZ-M in the U.S. > > >

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2006-11-01 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/31 Tue PM 10:59:05 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: The JCO survey > > Arghhh! > It's back. It's Halloween, and the thread from hell is back!! It _is_ the day when de

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2006-11-01 Thread John Forbes
OK because the K/M lenses > Are old. So is the current lens mount. There is nothing > Technically that cause the need for removal of full > KM support on these bodies because there is no new mount > Or mount feature which necessitated dropping the KM full > Support. > jco >

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2006-10-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey - I should start lurking more often. > Because the lens mount is the same as it was 32 years ago! > That's why. You cant say its OK because the K/M lenses > Are old. So is the

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2006-10-31 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Never heard of that one, either. Shel > [Original Message] > From: keith_w Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > The ZX-M? Never heard of it. > Mfg. 1997. Same camera as the MZ-M in the U.S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

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2006-10-31 Thread keith_w
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > The ZX-M? Never heard of it. I'll have to check Boz's site. Anyway, I'm > not in the market for a film camera right now. Got enough of them ;-)) > > Shel Mfg. 1997. Same camera as the MZ-M in the U.S. Me too! keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net htt

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2006-10-31 Thread J. C. O'Connell
ature which necessitated dropping the KM full Support. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Forbes Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey - I should start lurking more often. O

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2006-10-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/10/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: >In other words, the LX provided only partial support for six year-old >lenses. So why should the K1D provide full support for thirty two-year >old lenses (assuming it makes its debut in 2007). In the same vein, please do use petrol to st

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2006-10-31 Thread Shel Belinkoff
used it, and purchased it. > It has the bits you mentioned. It's actually kinda sweet. > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >Yes, I understand that, but I wonder of JCO grasps the concept. I knew a > >number of people in the automotive business many years back, and they'd

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2006-10-31 Thread John Forbes
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:20:26 -, Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A flagship is a flagship, and if there's a K1D in the future, it should > be as > complete as the LX was in its day. Quite right. As complete, not more. I don't recall that the LX mounted screw-thread lenses with

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2006-10-31 Thread Shel Belinkoff
:29 PM, Lon Williamson wrote: > > > Shel, consider the ZX-M. Not an exensive camera. I've used it, and > > purchased it. It has the bits you mentioned. It's actually kinda sweet. > > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > >> Yes, I understand that, but I won

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