Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-16 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote: I process some RAW files for one of my colleagues. The ISO 800 pics from her Canon 20D are noticeably more noisy than the 800ISO pics from my *istD. However, I too expect the 10D to be better than both. Paul I own(ed) both an *ist D and a 20D and processed 1000s of

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-16 Thread Christian
Christian wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I process some RAW files for one of my colleagues. The ISO 800 pics from her Canon 20D are noticeably more noisy than the 800ISO pics from my *istD. However, I too expect the 10D to be better than both. Paul I own(ed) both an *ist D and a 20D and

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Tom C
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:26:00 -0400 Not at higher ISOs, Tom. It's part of why I'm not super-interested in the 10MP body, though

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Tom C
. :-) Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:56:00

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Tom C
Which bar? Just because 8 and 10 Mpixel cameras are out there at similar pricing doesn't mean that they do any better on image quality. The entry-level DSLR market generally isn't concerned with making a 13x19 and larger presentation prints, the difference in ultimate resolution is barely

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread David J Brooks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:56:00 -0400 Who cares about the number of megapixels? As many have pointed out, a higher pixel count in the same physical

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Tom C
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:14:57 -0400 Aaron is completely correct. Some cameras with a larger pixel count don't produce better

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Cotty
Thanks Tom. I needed that. On 15/9/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net --

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
count. We'll soon see. Paul On Sep 15, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Tom C wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:14:57 -0400 Aaron

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Tom C
resolution would be relatively meaningless. Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:17:57 -0400 I still stand by that. Some 10 megapixel PS

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote: I still stand by that. Some 10 megapixel PS cameras are horrible. As I suspect some DSLRs may be as well. The benefits of the K10D extend well beyond pixel count. And if the hype is to be believed, it seems Pentax has compensated for any degradation of image quality

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
I process some RAW files for one of my colleagues. The ISO 800 pics from her Canon 20D are noticeably more noisy than the 800ISO pics from my *istD. However, I too expect the 10D to be better than both. Paul On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Christian wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I still stand

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-09-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/09/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I process some RAW files for one of my colleagues. The ISO 800 pics from her Canon 20D are noticeably more noisy than the 800ISO pics from my *istD. However, I too expect the 10D to be better than both. I hope so but I still don't know how

K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-31 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Can I have a link to the hand-held shots you did with the K100D 400/5.6? THanks Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://www.brendemuehl.net He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Collin R Brendemuehl Subject: K110D - Why bother? Can I have a link to the hand-held shots you did with the K100D 400/5.6? http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/antishake/ Actually, it was with the 600/5.6 William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-12 Thread Bob W
It's called the Yo, Blair! effect... -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: 12 August 2006 02:11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? I believe that I have just been called

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/8/06, Aaron Reynolds, discombobulated, unleashed: I believe that I have just been called bro by an Englishman. Actually I meant to write 'brother' but couldn't be arsed - that's the difference ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-12 Thread Tom C
On Aug 11, 2006, at 11:22, Tom C wrote: Until you do that, please don't presume to stagger around the internet spouting gibberish. That's Tom C's job. (Just joking, Tom) I've been forgetting to look in my mailbox for my check. Thanks for the reminder. :-) Not that you'd

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To have engineered and fabricated a *new* 6MP DSLR, when by all accounts 6MP is for the most part (from my perception) considered passe, seems kind of foolish. Whats foolish about selling lots of cameras and making money? Pål

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread John Forbes
Unfortunately, the new software may incorporate some Silkypix technology, but it's not Silkypix in disguise. It's barely more useful than the original version. John On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:37:41 +0100, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 04:16:57PM -0400, Cory

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread John Forbes
You didn't insult me. You did something worse. You thoughtlessly published an untrue and damaging statement about the camera system that I use. If you want to know about Pentax's financial position, go onto their website and download their latest published accounts. Until you do that,

RE: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Richard Day
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Forbes Sent: 11 August 2006 11:18 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Unfortunately, the new software may incorporate some Silkypix technology, but it's not Silkypix in disguise. It's barely more useful than the original version

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Ooops... my bad. I must have mis-read a press release somewhere. On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 04:16:57PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Just a though, but IIRC the K1[01]0D does DNG RAW files. Are they compressed to a non-stupid level?

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Tom C
Paul, stop putting words in my mouth. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Tom C
, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:26:00 -0400 Not at higher ISOs, Tom. It's part of why I'm not super

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Tom C
Until you do that, please don't presume to stagger around the internet spouting gibberish. That's Tom C's job. (Just joking, Tom) I've been forgetting to look in my mailbox for my check. Thanks for the reminder. :-) Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread graywolf
digital images never get printed. Just my hunch... Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Kenneth Waller wrote: Also I suspect there is a market for a 6mp dslr among the masses. Kenneth Waller I tend to think

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 11, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Tom C wrote: What evidence is their out there, however that any of the *latest* generation of DSLR's has a serious noise problem? Which ones, Tom? And I'm not saying that it's a serious problem or even that it's particularly terrible, just that more megapixels

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Tom C
: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:55:22 -0400 On Aug 11, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Tom C wrote: What evidence is their out there, however that any

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds
] Subj: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:23 pm Size: 1K To: pdml@pdml.net I'm stating that Pentax having released, what, 4 different 6MP DLSR's in the last 3 years, why release another (2, one with Anti-shake and one w/o)? It seems like they are repeating the PS approach

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:38 AM, Richard Day wrote: Hi Godders, hi Cotty! Heya Richard! Welcome to PDMHell! Didn't realize you were lurking here. :-) The new software does actually have some advances over the previous issues. The new Photo Lab raw converter does have additional features

RE: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Richard Day
August 2006 19:04 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:38 AM, Richard Day wrote: Hi Godders, hi Cotty! Heya Richard! Welcome to PDMHell! Didn't realize you were lurking here. :-) The new software does actually have some advances over the previous

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Tom C
whether you or I personally like their product at the moment. Tom -Aaron -Original Message- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:23 pm Size: 1K To: pdml@pdml.net I'm stating that Pentax having released, what, 4 different 6MP DLSR's

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 11, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Tom C wrote: Isn't this, in some respects related to the size of the print though? Granted, we don't print all our images at 16 X 20 or larger. More pixels should equal more resolution and smoother gradation. Should, but in practice it does not always mean

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/8/06, Aaron Reynolds, discombobulated, unleashed: I was watching an old episode of Quincy the other day, Holy moly, that seals it mate. You're out to lunch bro! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/8/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: You didn't insult me. You did something worse. You thoughtlessly published an untrue and damaging statement about the camera system that I use. You don't want to upset John, trust me! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Thursday 10 August 2006 21:51, Asad Masede wrote: Photobrowser 3 with Silkypix RAW engine is also something that should count in favor of the K110D. This is available for all Pentax DSLR users by a free download from the Japanese Pentax website, I have done that and it works. -- Frits

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 10/8/06, Aaron Reynolds, discombobulated, unleashed: I was watching an old episode of Quincy the other day, Holy moly, that seals it mate. You're out to lunch bro! People who hang around with pathologists are just plain *weird*, man! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds
I believe that I have just been called bro by an Englishman. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:43 pm Size: 411 bytes To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net On 10/8/06, Aaron Reynolds, discombobulated, unleashed

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-11 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 11, 2006, at 11:22, Tom C wrote: Until you do that, please don't presume to stagger around the internet spouting gibberish. That's Tom C's job. (Just joking, Tom) I've been forgetting to look in my mailbox for my check. Thanks for the reminder. :-) Not that you'd cash it

K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
A friend is looking for an entry level DSLR, and she likes my istDS. We talked a little about the DL/DL2 and the new (and now available) K110D and the K100D. Price is a concern for her, so the non-anti-shake body is where here interest lies. BuyDig has both the DL and the K110D in stock, and,

RE: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Tom C
PDML@pdml.net Subject: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:12:37 -0700 A friend is looking for an entry level DSLR, and she likes my istDS. We talked a little about the DL/DL2 and the new (and now available) K110D and the K100D. Price is a concern for her, so the non-anti-shake body

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: I wondered why Pentax even thought announcing another 6MP DSLR was somehow a good marketing strategy. 1) It's less expensive than the K100D 2) It doesn't have that stupid ist name ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Asad Masede
I think the K110D is much better than the DL on many counts. First, if the AF is anything like the K100D (which I own), it's *MUCH* better than what you get on the DL; second, it's much more future proof by being SDHC compatible. I personally don't think Pentax will ever release a firmware

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Jack Davis
I only note one difference, that being the K110D has an 11 pt AF system whereas the DL has a 3 pt system. DL 'prox $80 less. Jack --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend is looking for an entry level DSLR, and she likes my istDS. We talked a little about the DL/DL2 and the new

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Paul Sorenson
Shel - Both have pentamirrors rather than a pentaprism - as near as I can tell, the only difference is the the K110 has 11 point autofocus, while the DL has 3 point, and the K110 will do high speed flash with a dedicated flash unit and the DL doesn't have this feature. If money is a factor,

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend is looking for an entry level DSLR, and she likes my istDS. We talked a little about the DL/DL2 and the new (and now available) K110D and the K100D. Price is a concern for her, so the non-anti-shake body is where here interest

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: A friend is looking for an entry level DSLR, and she likes my istDS. We talked a little about the DL/DL2 and the new (and now available) K110D and the K100D. Price is a concern for her, so the non-anti-shake body is where here interest lies.

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 10, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Asad Masede wrote: they can be forgiven for wanting people to buy their new cameras while they're in deep financial shit You mean while they're selling cameras in record numbers and at the highest profitability for the camera division in the history of the

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread John Forbes
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:51:54 +0100, Asad Masede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . they can be forgiven for wanting people to buy their new cameras while they're in deep financial shit. -Asad Pentax are a profit-making company. Saying they are in deep financial

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Tom C
Where does this come from? Profitability defined how? at the highest profitability for the camera division in the history of the company? That kind of shit? -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 04:16:57PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Just a though, but IIRC the K1[01]0D does DNG RAW files. Are they compressed to a non-stupid level? Anyone know? Neither the K100D nor K110D produce DNG RAW files. The new version of Pentax Photo Laboratory (SilkyPix in

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Thibouille
And anyway these software version 3 are vavailable for DS/DL/D also. 2006/8/10, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 04:16:57PM -0400, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Just a though, but IIRC the K1[01]0D does DNG RAW files. Are they compressed to a non-stupid level? Anyone

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Asad Masede
John Forbes wrote: 2 Indicative that you are in deep intellectual shit (ie: stupid) John Wow, when did I ever insult you? Is venting online the only way you can cope with your frustration? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Asad Masede
Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Aug 10, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Asad Masede wrote: they can be forgiven for wanting people to buy their new cameras while they're in deep financial shit You mean while they're selling cameras in record numbers and at the highest profitability for the camera

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Aaron Reynolds
The screen on the K110D is bigger, brighter, and has a better viewing angle. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:19 pm Size: 749 bytes To: PDML PDML@pdml.net A friend is looking for an entry level

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Aaron Reynolds
. ;) -Aaron -Original Message- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:36 pm Size: 271 bytes To: pdml@pdml.net Where does this come from? Profitability defined how? at the highest profitability for the camera division in the history

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Sorry, is this based on something factual or when you say IMO do you mean that you're just guessing about Pentax's financials? -Aaron -Original Message- From: Asad Masede [EMAIL PROTECTED] They've just begun to do that, they have started climbing out of their hole, yes, but are they

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Adam Maas
Same size actually, the DL was the first Pentax with the 2.5 screen. -Adam Aaron Reynolds wrote: The screen on the K110D is bigger, brighter, and has a better viewing angle. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: K110D - Why bother? Date

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Adam Maas
, debriefed or numbered. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:12:37 -0700 A friend is looking for an entry level DSLR, and she likes my istDS. We talked

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Tom C
pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:30:41 -0400 Parts commonality. K110D is replacing the DL entirely. Because it can be made from K100D parts. -Adam Tom C wrote: I wondered why Pentax even thought announcing

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks, Scott ... good to know. I forgot about the Samsung. Might be worth adding to the discussion with my friend. Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless Have you mentioned the Samsung GX-1S? Looks to be a DS2, more or less. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thank you so much, Paul. Very good and valuable information. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Sorenson Both have pentamirrors rather than a pentaprism - as near as I can tell, the only difference is the the K110 has 11 point autofocus, while the DL has 3 point, and the K110 will do

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's what I heard forgot about it, though. tks! Shel [Original Message] From: Aaron Reynolds The screen on the K110D is [...] brighter, and has a better viewing angle. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
How so? Please be as specific as you can. Thanks. Shel [Original Message] From: Asad Masede I think the K110D is much better than the DL on many counts. First, if the AF is anything like the K100D (which I own), it's *MUCH* better than what you get on the DL; -- PDML

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 10, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Tom C wrote: I was questioning the wisdom of continuing with any 6MP DSLR body when the bar has been raised in entry level DSLRs for some time now. Which bar? Just because 8 and 10 Mpixel cameras are out there at similar pricing doesn't mean that they do any

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Asad Masede
Well, I can't (and won't) do any timed tests, but the K100D is much better at low light AF than the last gen of Pentax DSLRs. I have an *ist DS and it has trouble locking onto subjects when it's dark, and when it does lock-on, it's slow; the K100D on the other hand, locks on very quickly even

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Asad Masede Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? John Forbes wrote: 2 Indicative that you are in deep intellectual shit (ie: stupid) John Wow, when did I ever insult you? Is venting online the only way you can cope with your frustration? It's all good

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Tom C
is often everything in the marketplace. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Perhaps you mean the marketing bar. Well that's the *polite* word for it... ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Tom C
It's all good. I called John a bad name once. Now he's called you a bad name, so you can call me a bad name and everyone's karma is even. William Robb No. You called me a name so bad that true justice means I must do more than call you a bad name. I must come and see to it that you gum your

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Also I suspect there is a market for a 6mp dslr among the masses. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Tom C wrote: I wondered why Pentax even thought announcing another 6MP DSLR was somehow a good marketing

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
How do they compare with the same batteries? It seems that, in the past, someone used NiMH bats that were a little hotter than the standard CRV-3 bats and claimed to have gotten faster autofocus. Several people noted, iirc, that NiMH bats (maybe rechargeable ones)were not recommended for the

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Tom C
Kenneth Waller wrote: Also I suspect there is a market for a 6mp dslr among the masses. Kenneth Waller I tend to think that group would buy a 6+MP point and shoot. Don't know though. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 11/08/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was questioning the wisdom of continuing with any 6MP DSLR body when the bar has been raised in entry level DSLRs for some time now. You're just sore because you want a camera with better than a pissy little 6MP sensor, what's wrong with the 645D

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Aaron Reynolds
picture or a bigger number? -Aaron -Original Message- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:18 pm Size: 2K To: pdml@pdml.net Your last interrogative (Why not sell it?) was more or less where I was coming from. Will it sell *that* well

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Tom C
Both. From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:56:00 -0400 Who cares about the number of megapixels? As many have pointed out, a higher pixel

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
As we've seen reported on the web most digital images never get printed. Just my hunch... Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Kenneth Waller wrote: Also I suspect there is a market for a 6mp dslr among the masses. Kenneth

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Tom C
. :-) Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:56:00

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ah, but isn't bigger always better? ;+) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Who cares about the number of megapixels? As many have pointed out, a higher pixel count in the same physical space often yields

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
. :-) Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Aaron Reynolds
-- demand for both new bodies is quite strong, despite your belief that no one wants one. ;) -Aaron -Original Message- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:12 pm Size: 3K To: pdml@pdml.net I guess you're saying all those existing

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Aaron Reynolds
As someone who until recently made his living making prints for other people, I've seen it too. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:26 pm Size: 4K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Aaron

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks to all who answered my questions. Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 10, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: I tend to think that group would buy a 6+MP point and shoot. Don't know though. Might be right, especially if the price is significantly lower than a 6mp dslr. My limited experience (among my acquaintances) says a point shoot

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Adam Maas
Shel, It's the rechargable CR-V3's that aren't recommended for the DSLR's, because of excess voltage (they're 3.6V instead of 3V for Lithium CR-V3's). And they do Af a bit quicker. NiMH AA's are indeed recommended for use in the *istD's and the K1x0D's. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: How do

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Adam Maas
@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:37:03 -0700 On Aug 10, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Tom C wrote: I was questioning the wisdom of continuing with any 6MP DSLR body when the bar has been raised in entry level DSLRs for some time now

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? As someone who until recently made his living making prints for other people, I've seen it too. Just before I left the industry, one of my pro customers went from a 6mp Canon to an 8mp Canon. As far as I

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? It's all good. I called John a bad name once. Now he's called you a bad name, so you can call me a bad name and everyone's karma is even. William Robb No. You called me a name so bad that true justice means I must

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:48 PM, William Robb wrote: But if you must come and help me eat steaks, Charmi and I are still planning to be at Rosebery Provincial Park from about Sept. 4 till the 18th. We'll keep the BSE stuff on ice for you. I was watching an old episode of Quincy the other day,

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-10 Thread Asad Masede
Shel Belinkoff wrote: How do they compare with the same batteries? The K100/110D is *MUCH* faster even if they're both using NiMH cells. You have to use it to notice the big difference in AF, I'm sure upcoming reviews will take not of this. It seems that, in the past, someone used NiMH