Re: Lens road map

2012-02-05 Thread Þráinn Vigfússon
I second this. The 550mm lens would be perfect for skittish birds, especially when there is little tree cover for getting closer. If it will be f5.6, as some people have guessed, it might even be affordable (or at least affordable enough that my wife won't beat me over the head with it when I

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
;-) From: Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Lens road map On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Been thinking more about this, and the long long telephoto doesn't make

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-04 Thread Cotty
On 3/2/12, Darren Addy, discombobulated, unleashed: I think the evidence is getting stronger for a FF Pentax camera to be at least announced, very soon. Sorry mate, the hat's out of the smoker now (since the K-Uh-Oh) and I'm not putting it back in just like that. Gotta give me something better

RE: Lens road map

2012-02-04 Thread JC OCONNELL
all they need to get the ball rolling is a FF body and a good 28-85 kit digital lens to go with it. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:52 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Lens road map On 3/2

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-03 Thread Darren Addy
Been thinking more about this, and the long long telephoto doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me on an APS-C camera. A 550mm lens? That would be a 775mm (35mm equiv) on a crop camera. Anybody see a huge demand for that? Now a 550mm or 600mm lens on a full frame, would be much more likely to be

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Been thinking more about this, and the long long telephoto doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me on an APS-C camera. A 550mm lens? That would be a 775mm (35mm equiv) on a crop camera. Anybody see a huge demand for that? I want one for my

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-03 Thread Jack Davis
I'd secretly (my wife is listening) like to see a 400mm f/4 or 4.5 and a quality 1.4 T/C. Jack ;-) From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Lens road map

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-03 Thread Adam Montoya
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Thu Feb 2 11:45:31 EST 2012 Miserere wrote: On 2 February 2012 10:35, Tim .sleby maritimtim at gmail.com wrote: Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check it out)

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-03 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-02-03 12:16, Darren Addy wrote: A 550mm lens? That would be a 775mm (35mm equiv) on a crop camera. Anybody see a huge demand for that? Well, they derived enough perceived benefit from the FA* 600/4 and the FA* 400/2.8 to keep them in the catalog for years, even though it'd often

Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Tim Øsleby
Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check it out) http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_k-mount_lens_roadmap/ -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ My photo class blog: http://z-fotokurs.blogspot.com/

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Miserere
On 2 February 2012 10:35, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check it out) http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_k-mount_lens_roadmap/ -- MaritimTim Photographyblog is saying they saw the new Pentax lens roadmap at

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread DagT
DA standard 50mm? I guess someone is confusing with equivalents. Maybe a DA*31mm 1.8? :-) DA zoom Limited sounds like a contradiction in terms. DagT Den 2. feb. 2012 kl. 17:45 skrev Miserere: On 2 February 2012 10:35, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know about the authentasy of

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread William Robb
On 02/02/2012 10:45 AM, Miserere wrote: Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are probably not even on the drawing board. The

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Igor Roshchin
Thu Feb 2 11:45:31 EST 2012 Miserere wrote: On 2 February 2012 10:35, Tim .sleby maritimtim at gmail.com wrote: Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check it out) http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_k-mount_lens_roadmap/ -- MaritimTim

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Tim Øsleby
Looks like it's genuine. http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/pdf/lens_roadmap.pdf -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ My photo class blog: http://z-fotokurs.blogspot.com/ To err is human

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread John Francis
Nope - the shots of the roadmap show the 50mm lens positioned right at the join of the 18-50 and 50-135, at a real 50mm. On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 06:04:57PM +0100, DagT wrote: DA standard 50mm? I guess someone is confusing with equivalents. Maybe a DA*31mm 1.8? :-) DA zoom Limited sounds like

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 12:17:15PM -0500, Igor Roshchin wrote: Thu Feb 2 11:45:31 EST 2012 Miserere wrote: 2013: - DA AF RC 1.4x teleconverter What does RC stand for besides Radio Control? I'd bet on something like range converter. With in-body SR, and zoom lenses, a

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Dario Bonazza
Igor Roshchin wrote: What does RC stand for besides Radio Control? Rear Converter Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread DagT
Just dreaming… Den 2. feb. 2012 kl. 19:25 skrev John Francis: Nope - the shots of the roadmap show the 50mm lens positioned right at the join of the 18-50 and 50-135, at a real 50mm. On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 06:04:57PM +0100, DagT wrote: DA standard 50mm? I guess someone is confusing with

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good news then in regard to long glass. No DFAs to be seen, but I'm not sure that's a designation that Pentax would use, even if a full frame camera were on the way. But longer glass and a 50mm lens tend to make one think full frame. Paul On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Looks

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/02/2012 10:45 AM, Miserere wrote: Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax is being vague on purpose,

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Peter Jordan
Those were my thoughts. If the standard is 50mm, then that's FF or Pentax have redefined the term standard. Peter On 2 Feb 2012, at 18:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:. Good news then in regard to long glass. No DFAs to be seen, but I'm not sure that's a designation that Pentax would use, even

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Peter Jordan wrote: Those were my thoughts. If the standard is 50mm, then that's FF or Pentax have redefined the term standard. Not really, a lot of people just didn't redefine standard with APS, and just use 50 as normal 30 and shorter as wide, and 75 and

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Lens road map On 02/02/2012 10:45 AM, Miserere wrote: Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Darren Addy
I agree with those who are reading the tea leaves of the lens road map and seeing full frame (even though they are using the DA placeholder (how could they really do anything else without tipping their hand?). Calling the 50 a standard lens is the most obvious tip off. I think it would be easiest

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I agree with those who are reading the tea leaves of the lens road map and seeing full frame (even though they are using the DA placeholder (how could they really do anything else without tipping their hand?). I would expect that the DA prefix

Re: Lens road map

2012-02-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb On 02/02/2012 10:45 AM, Miserere wrote: Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are probably not even on the

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-31 Thread Thibouille
Yes I agree with Paul and would add that for those not familiar with a roadmap: a roadmap is made to give customers idea about the future developements. It is already unusual for a roadmap to show all lenses currently available. Also a roadmap is nowhere a commitment to informations contained in

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-30 Thread Bertil Holmberg
Nor are the wonderful 31, 43, and 77mm limiteds. Will new Pentax owners be unable to enjoy these marvels? Bertil None of the FA series lenses are listed on it. The road map only seems to be for DA, DA* DFA lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-30 Thread Carlos Royo
Mark Roberts escribió: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf Thanks for the link, Mark. But I am afraid I have grown highly skeptical of Pentax lens roadmaps. If this time they manage to fulfill their promises, the DA 17-70 and DA 60-250 will surface almost two years after

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
John Celio wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf Oh sweet! 15mm is a bit wide for me, but I'd like to see how it does compared to the older 14mm. Personally, I still want the 10-17 Fisheye for my ultra-wide needs. The 10-17 fisheye is a lot of fun, but the image

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, the 10-17 only a good choice if you want fisheye distortion. If you plan on correcting most of your shots to rectilinear, you're much better off with the DA 12-24. Paul On Jan 30, 2008, at 6:59 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: John Celio wrote:

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-30 Thread Joseph Tainter
And SDM TC's are coming, Pentax's first new TC's since the SMC-F era brought us the F 1.7x. The TC(s) may be rebadged versions of the Kenko 300 TCs--which are reported to be excellent. Pentax has said that for them to design TCs from scratch in the foreseeable future (2-3 years) they would have

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-30 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:04:45AM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: And SDM TC's are coming, Pentax's first new TC's since the SMC-F era brought us the F 1.7x. The TC(s) may be rebadged versions of the Kenko 300 TCs--which are reported to be excellent. Pentax has said that for them to design

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:04:45AM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: The TC(s) may be rebadged versions of the Kenko 300 TCs--which are reported to be excellent. Pentax has said that for them to design TCs from scratch in the foreseeable future (2-3 years) they would have to

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-30 Thread P. J. Alling
It doesn't look quite that way to me.. Pentax seems to be planning on three lens lines. Fast Professional * lenses all with SDM. Relatively small compact very high build quality, but slightly slower Limited lenses, (lots of pancakes no room for SDM probably), and more Consumer oriented DA

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
The roadmap lists recently released and new lenses. That doesn't mean older lenses will no longer be available. But I wouldn't be surprised if the lenses for full frame are eventually taken out of production. However, like most Pentax lenses of the past, there are plenty of them out there,

New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread pnstenquist
A new rear converter as well. DA*60-250 in now scheduled for summer. And an SDM 55/1.4. Sounds good. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread John Celio
http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf Oh sweet! 15mm is a bit wide for me, but I'd like to see how it does compared to the older 14mm. Personally, I still want the 10-17 Fisheye for my ultra-wide needs. I hope that new DA*30mm is a 1.4, it would be a great slightly-wide normal

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread Jack Davis
I'm actually looking forward to California's weltering central valley summer..the DA* 60~250 may actually materialize. YES!! Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A new rear converter as well. DA*60-250 in now scheduled for summer. And an SDM 55/1.4. Sounds good. Paul -- Original

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread Adam Maas
On 1/29/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread P. J. Alling
In line with the small size of the limited lenses I expect it to be an f3.2 pancake. Adam Maas wrote: On 1/29/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread Stan Halpin
The 35/2.8 Ltd (macro) is still there on the list. The 30mm will be more compact, I would guess also a 2.8. stan On Jan 29, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On 1/29/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread John Celio
P.J. wrote: In line with the small size of the limited lenses I expect it to be an f3.2 pancake. stan wrote: The 35/2.8 Ltd (macro) is still there on the list. The 30mm will be more compact, I would guess also a 2.8. Keep in mind, guys, the 30 is a DA*, not a Limited, and thus does not

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread Sandy Harris
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf I notice that the 50/1.4 does not seem to be on it. Has that been discontinued? -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread Doug Franklin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's a rear convertor? A teleconverter? Or something else? Yep, it's a teleconverter. A ref converter is for the eyepiece. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread John Celio
A new rear converter as well. DA*60-250 in now scheduled for summer. And an SDM 55/1.4. Sounds good. Paul = Boy, I feel dumb tonight. What's a rear convertor? A teleconverter? Or something else? Padded undies. ;) John (your first guess was right) --

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/29/2008 6:35:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A new rear converter as well. DA*60-250 in now scheduled for summer. And an SDM 55/1.4. Sounds good. Paul = Boy, I feel dumb tonight. What's a rear convertor? A teleconverter? Or

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread David Savage
At 02:09 PM 30/01/2008, Sandy Harris wrote: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf I notice that the 50/1.4 does not seem to be on it. Has that been discontinued? None of the FA series lenses are listed on it. The road map only seems to be

Re: New Pentas lens road map: Can you say 15mm Limited? :)

2008-01-29 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not Bob, but yes it's a teleconverter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/29/2008 6:35:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A new rear converter as well. DA*60-250 in now scheduled for summer. And an SDM 55/1.4. Sounds good. Paul = Boy,

Re: On lens road map

2006-02-25 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] My guess is only the D-FA for the 645D will have aperture ring, while all others (being DA) won't. The operation of the aperture lever in the 645 system is the other way round from the K-mount lever. Maybe this design is

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 11:27:11PM -0500, Mishka wrote: i think they are leveraging that with small limited lenses quite nicely. if there was a choice, usm or small primes, i would pick the second. perhaps that's not what pros need -- than i'm happy pentax is not pro oriented. best, mishka

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL I don't think we're too far apart on many things ... Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi How is it that we agree so much on some things, Shel? ;-) Godfrey On Feb 23, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Some people care about specs, others care about making

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread dagt
Why shouldn't the pancakes be considered as pro lenses? I'm wondering is they are aiming at the old rangefinder market. A lot of pros liked Leica M6 because of their compact size and good lenses... DagT fra: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think they are leveraging that with small limited

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, John Francis wrote: There's a DA 50-135/2.8 on the way as well. Looks like 2006 is going to be expensive. Not really, it's a DA. But they plan a DFA55/2.8. I will buy it in a flash. Not. Kostas

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:52 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I guess it does. Their conservatism however does little now for the photography that I like to pursue. ... And what kind of photography is that, really? Have you defined it? Yes, but you deleted

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
, it wouldn't be a small one. Tom C. From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Lens Road Map revised Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:31:47 -0500 Tom C wrote: I don't see how you can call it under-spec'd compared to Canon (especially

Re: Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread mike wilson
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/24 Fri AM 09:57:53 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Lens Road Map revised On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, John Francis wrote: There's a DA 50-135/2.8 on the way as well. Looks like 2006 is going to be expensive

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Jon Myers
What's wrong with the 55/2.8? It is for the 645D, after all - according to the english version of that roadmap. --- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they plan a DFA55/2.8. I will buy it in a flash. Not. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Jon Myers wrote: What's wrong with the 55/2.8? It is for the 645D, after all - according to the english version of that roadmap. Thanks, I read that later on. What is wrong is that it would benefit from not being on the same roadmap as the K-mount products. Kostas

Re: [Bulk] Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] That make sense. It will be the new standard lens. The D FA label probably (almost certainly) indicate that it will be full frame and that it will fit film 645 as well. That strongly indicate that it have aperture ring

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't see a definition for a kind of photography in that quote, Kostas. I see a statement relating to a kind of equipment. What kind of PHOTOGRAPHS is the equipment intended to make? That's photography. Godfrey On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:09 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: And what kind of

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
photography. In it Rob expands that for that type of photographs he needs a combination of low noise in high ISO and bright lenses. He concludes that Pentax is not moving towards this direction. The subject of the thread is Lens Road Map revised. And don't shout, I read even without it. Kostas

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-02-24 06:08, Paul Stenquist wrote: You can get two of the new Pentax for the price of one 5D. Or you could make a sizable down payment on the 645D, which apparently will be much higher spec than the 5D. So the new roadmap indicates: - 'consumer cameras' use APS sized sensors and

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread pnstenquist
The lens mount for the new pro camera is not PK, it's the 645 mount. And the sensor isn't 35mm full frame. It's somewhere in between that and 645. The DFA lens on the chart is apparently a 645 mount lens. -- Original message -- From: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-02-24 16:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lens mount for the new pro camera is not PK, it's the 645 mount. How do you know? And the sensor isn't 35mm full frame. I suppose that it's not really 35 mm. 36x24 mm - ø 43 mm, 60:45 @ 43 mm - 34.6 x 26.0 mm That's 4 % more area ;-) I

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread pnstenquist
-- Original message -- From: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2006-02-24 16:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lens mount for the new pro camera is not PK, it's the 645 mount. How do you know? Pentax made that clear when they announced this camera some

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
that for that type of photographs he needs a combination of low noise in high ISO and bright lenses. He concludes that Pentax is not moving towards this direction. The subject of the thread is Lens Road Map revised. You do a lot of interpretation for the words low light work ... Rob didn't say that he

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread jtainter
*ist D ( or successor) +DA 40 F2.8 +DA 21 F3.2 +DA 70 F2.4 Together they mean that in my next fight with British Airways over carry-on weight, I'll win (again). These can just about all go in a pocket. Joe

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 09:57:53AM +, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, John Francis wrote: There's a DA 50-135/2.8 on the way as well. Looks like 2006 is going to be expensive. Not really, it's a DA. So's the 12-24, and that's almost into four figures. The 10-17

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Adam Maas
John Francis wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 09:57:53AM +, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, John Francis wrote: There's a DA 50-135/2.8 on the way as well. Looks like 2006 is going to be expensive. Not really, it's a DA. So's the 12-24, and that's almost into four

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread pnstenquist
I think Kostas' point was that he won't buy DA glass. -Adam I think that's all we're going to see in PK mount. I'm fine with that. Paul

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Adam Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Kostas' point was that he won't buy DA glass. -Adam I think that's all we're going to see in PK mount. I'm fine with that. Paul Makes sense, since I don't expect Pentax to introduce any 35mm cameras in the future, and also don't expect the film offerings

On lens road map

2006-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Ladies and gents, I am rather puzzled by two Pentax limited lenses - the most modern ones - the 40 mm and 70 mm. I see no other reason for their introduction except size and may be price. Pentax already produces outstanding 43 and 77 mm limited lenses. They work very well on *istD and on

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread DagT
I agree. They will be about as compact as an old range finder with lenses having corresponding fields of view. DagT Den 24. feb. 2006 kl. 18.31 skrev jtainter: *ist D ( or successor) +DA 40 F2.8 +DA 21 F3.2 +DA 70 F2.4 Together they mean that in my next fight with British Airways over

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:44:23PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Kostas' point was that he won't buy DA glass. -Adam I think that's all we're going to see in PK mount. I'm fine with that. Paul I'd say that the announcement of DA f2.8 zooms which replace the previous

Re: On lens road map

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Ladies and gents, I am rather puzzled by two Pentax limited lenses - the most modern ones - the 40 mm and 70 mm. I see no other reason for their introduction except size and may be price. Pentax already produces outstanding 43 and 77 mm

Re: On lens road map

2006-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Why do I feel that they are trying to beat the dead horse by labeling those lenses limited... I never did get what Limited was supposed to mean anyway, vs the FA* labeling. Silly games in naming. Godfrey, remember in Men In Black (the first one), when Will Smith is passing that exam?

Re: On lens road map

2006-02-24 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ladies and gents, I am rather puzzled by two Pentax limited lenses - the most modern ones - the 40 mm and 70 mm. I see no other reason for their introduction except size and may be price. But size and price are very

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 09:57:53AM +, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, John Francis wrote: There's a DA 50-135/2.8 on the way as well. Looks like 2006 is going to be expensive. Not really, it's a DA. So's the 12-24, and that's

Re: On lens road map

2006-02-24 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2006-02-24, at 20:20, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I never did get what Limited was supposed to mean anyway, vs the FA* labeling. Silly games in naming. For me FA* were high performance lenses with modern build quality (mixture of plastic and metal) while Limiteds are from old school - no

Re: On lens road map

2006-02-24 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2006-02-24, at 19:55, Boris Liberman wrote: Ladies and gents, I am rather puzzled by two Pentax limited lenses - the most modern ones - the 40 mm and 70 mm. I see no other reason for their introduction except size and may be price. Pentax already produces outstanding 43 and 77 mm

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Feb 2006 at 8:01, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't see a definition for a kind of photography in that quote, Kostas. I see a statement relating to a kind of equipment. What kind of PHOTOGRAPHS is the equipment intended to make? That's photography. Just butting in here for a minute,

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Rob, Based on your description, am I to interpret that the issue with bodies has mostly to do with High ISO/Low Noise? Essentially a larger sensor becomes the real solution from the body side of things. That would mean either a full frame sensor or a MF body. So Nikon is no help to you

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2006-02-25, at 00:51, Rob Studdert wrote: Just butting in here for a minute, my photographic endeavours include quite a lot of mid-high energy concert photography these days, and as a consequence generally I find myself shooting in very low light/poor quality light environs. Static low

Re: On lens road map

2006-02-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Feb 2006 at 20:39, Pål Jensen wrote: But size and price are very important market niches. I think it is brilliant except that I am reluctant to buy lenses without aperture rings. Better get used to it, I'd be surprised to hear that you're expecting aperture rings on many of the lenses

Re: On lens road map

2006-02-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
Rob Studdert wrote: On 24 Feb 2006 at 20:39, Pål Jensen wrote: But size and price are very important market niches. I think it is brilliant except that I am reluctant to buy lenses without aperture rings. Better get used to it, I'd be surprised to hear that you're expecting aperture rings

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Feb 2006 at 15:02, Bruce Dayton wrote: Hello Rob, Based on your description, am I to interpret that the issue with bodies has mostly to do with High ISO/Low Noise? Essentially a larger sensor becomes the real solution from the body side of things. That would mean either a full

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:14 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Pentax seem now simply hell bent on heading done the pretty/compact/light niche end of the market, and that's not where I want to go. I don't know about pretty. I guess they're okay. And some of the new lenses seem to be upgrades in speed --

Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread K.Takeshita
http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/roadmap.pdf DA16-50/2.8! Cheers, Ken

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 09:20:47PM -0500, K.Takeshita wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/roadmap.pdf DA16-50/2.8! Now we know why there's a rebate on the 16-45/4 There's a DA 50-135/2.8 on the way as well. Looks like 2006 is going to be expensive.

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Feb 2006 at 21:20, K.Takeshita wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/roadmap.pdf DA16-50/2.8! Is anyone else more than a little confused over the inclusion of a DFA55/2.8 and DA70/2.4LTD? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is anyone else more than a little confused over the inclusion of a DFA55/2.8 and DA70/2.4LTD? I am confused over the D-FA 55/2.8 but not the 70/2.4 Limited.

Re: [Bulk] Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/23/06 10:37 PM, Rob Studdert, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DFA55/2.8 This is for 645D Ken

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/23/06 9:32 PM, John Francis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 09:20:47PM -0500, K.Takeshita wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/roadmap.pdf DA16-50/2.8! Now we know why there's a rebate on the 16-45/4 There's a DA 50-135/2.8 on the way as well. Looks

Re: [Bulk] Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] DFA55/2.8 This is for 645D That make sense. It will be the new standard lens. The D FA label probably (almost certainly) indicate that it will be full frame and that it will fit film 645 as well. That strongly indicate

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Feb 2006 at 3:41, Pål Jensen wrote: I am confused over the D-FA 55/2.8 but not the 70/2.4 Limited. Yes I guess it would look good next to my 77/1.8LTD if I was trying to find the smallest least usable lenses. All I can think is what the hell are they thinking, how many lenses at or

Re: [Bulk] Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Feb 2006 at 21:42, K.Takeshita wrote: On 2/23/06 10:37 PM, Rob Studdert, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DFA55/2.8 This is for 645D Thanks Ken, that makes much more sense now, still doesn't account for the 70mm though? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT)

Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-23 Thread Tom C
Weird... Tom C. From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Lens Road Map revised Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:37:24 +1000 On 23 Feb 2006 at 21:20, K.Takeshita wrote: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/roadmap.pdf

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