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2008-11-30 Thread PN Stenquist
That's because you read the Cliff Notes. Paul On Nov 30, 2008, at 7:40 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Having read Das Kapital. well the first three chapters, before giving up and reading Engels "cliff notes", I doubt old Karl was very much amused by anything... PN Stenquist wrote: No. "Karl" woul

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2008-11-30 Thread P. J. Alling
Having read Das Kapital. well the first three chapters, before giving up and reading Engels "cliff notes", I doubt old Karl was very much amused by anything... PN Stenquist wrote: No. "Karl" would probably be amused. Paul On Nov 29, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Cotty wrote: On 29/11/08, Christine Aguil

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2008-11-30 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/11/29 Sat PM 09:54:47 GMT > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor > > On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, C

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2008-11-30 Thread P. J. Alling
David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, Christine Grouch, Harpo or Chico? Carl That's _Karl_. Dave

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2008-11-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 7:17 PM, PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No. "Karl" would probably be amused. > Paul I was trying to keep it non political.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

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2008-11-29 Thread Ken Waller
The other brother. Karlo Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tav

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2008-11-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/27/2008 7:05:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. [snip...] Cheers, Dave Clever ads are in a class by themselves. Here's a really clever Internet one that someone sent me

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2008-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >No. "Karl" would probably be amused. LOL! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://p

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2008-11-29 Thread PN Stenquist
No. "Karl" would probably be amused. Paul On Nov 29, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Cotty wrote: On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, Christine Grouch, Harpo or Chico

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2008-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, Christine >>> >>> Grouch, Harpo or Chico? >> >> Carl > >Yep, that's the one Did I really need to put a smiley?

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2008-11-29 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

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2008-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:20 PM, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "David J Brooks" >> >> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> > I've seen one or two episodes of Boston Legal while stuck in a motel >>> > room >>> > and too tired to r

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2008-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, Christine > > Grouch, Harpo or Chico? Carl Dave > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) |

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2008-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: >I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, Christine Grouch, Harpo or Chico? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ --

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2008-11-29 Thread Christine Aguila
I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 3:12 AM Subject: RE: OT - Canadian Meteor The Russell

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2008-11-28 Thread Christine Aguila
From: "Anthony Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: RE: OT - Canadian Meteor This "Museum Tavern"? http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Cz3bfbXJzfkOoNf1Ju6SDQ regards, Anthony

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2008-11-28 Thread Anthony Farr
scuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor > > I don't mind the warm ales & such. I quite liked the beer/ale etc when I > was last in London. My husband drank Directors when last there--I Guinness. > We did a lot of drinking at the Museum Tavern at end of a long da

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2008-11-28 Thread David Savage
alf Of Christine Aguila >> Sent: 28 November 2008 05:26 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor >> >> I don't mind the warm ales & such. I quite liked the >> beer/ale etc when I >> was last in London. My husband drank Di

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2008-11-28 Thread Bob W
The Russell Square Hotel used to be popular with Soviet spies for some reason. Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Christine Aguila > Sent: 28 November 2008 05:26 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT

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2008-11-27 Thread Christine Aguila
a. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor On 26/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: the next time I'm in

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2008-11-27 Thread Bob W
> > You might have a point there. Getting Australians to drink > beer could be > a bit of an uphill battle. > > OTOH, here's one that doesn't leave doubt what it's selling and it's > still entertaining: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5U0W8FDDk > Awesome! I do like funny adverts, and

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2008-11-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" Yea, they're great. But do they sell, er, whatever they're advertising...? > > I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. > > Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: > > >

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2008-11-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: "David J Brooks" On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've seen one or two episodes of Boston Legal while stuck in a motel room > and too tired to read. Not bad. I'll pick up the series on DVD. > > Sports? on TV? Yuck. If I want to watch sports I

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yeah, a PC is much more entertaining to watch. ];-) G On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:44 PM, PN Stenquist wrote: But John, no matter how you slice it, TV just isn't PC. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please v

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
But John, no matter how you slice it, TV just isn't PC. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 2:23 PM, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:53:51AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 26, 2008, at 7:45 PM, John Francis wrote: Rather an exaggeration. There are ways to watch TV that don't inv

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2008-11-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:33 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David J Brooks wrote: >> To see a live Leaf game here in Toronto, one needs to sell a kidney or >> other vital organ, just to get nose bleed seats. >> >> I prefer to pee over going to the arena.:-) >> >> Dave >> > > What?

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
True. You can't show anyone actually consuming alcohol. But you can watch them contemplating it:-). Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 12:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: "David Savage" I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at

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2008-11-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Happily, I have zero interest in seeing a Leaf game. As I. You can get a ticket for the farm team s low as $10.00. We tend to go see those ones.:-) Stouffville is hockey central, and lots of little fellows play. Good g

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
But I was raised on pro sports. Travelled to Comiskey Park with my buds in 1958 when I was ten years old to watch Mickey Mantle strike out three times as the White Sox beat the Yankees, Then I bit my nails all summer long as the Sox fought for the pennant in 1959. I was there when the Bears

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Happily, I have zero interest in seeing a Leaf game. The local Little Leaguer games, however, are no end of amusement and it costs nothing to go watch a game. Godfrey On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:25 AM, David J Brooks wrote: To see a live Leaf game here in Toronto, one needs to sell a kidney or

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:23 AM, John Francis wrote: ... Well, obviously. And if your idea of the TV universe is limited to the realm of sitcoms or reality shows then it probably isn't worth it to you. It isn't, trust me. There's a lot of good stuff out there. There's a far greater amount o

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2008-11-27 Thread Bob W
Yea, they're great. But do they sell, er, whatever they're advertising...? > > I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. > > Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: > > > >

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2008-11-27 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:53:51AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > On Nov 26, 2008, at 7:45 PM, John Francis wrote: > >> Rather an exaggeration. There are ways to watch TV that don't involve >> watching a show at the time of broadcast. They're not free, of course >> (except for shows streamed

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2008-11-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >Sure, Mr. >AllMyTextIsWeenieLittleGifsThatAreImp >ossibleToReadOnaBigMonitorButThat'sFineBecauseIuseAMacAndThatMakesMeSpecial. LOL Love it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.co

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2008-11-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: > the next time I'm >in England, I hope I can buy you a pint and toast A pint and a pie would be better - yes I know, those silly Brits and their warm beer, 'n shit ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pasti

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2008-11-27 Thread P. J. Alling
David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've seen one or two episodes of Boston Legal while stuck in a motel room and too tired to read. Not bad. I'll pick up the series on DVD. Sports? on TV? Yuck. If I want to watch sports I go to

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2008-11-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've seen one or two episodes of Boston Legal while stuck in a motel room > and too tired to read. Not bad. I'll pick up the series on DVD. > > Sports? on TV? Yuck. If I want to watch sports I go to the field or the rac

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2008-11-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: "David Savage" I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: You'll never see anything like those

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've seen one or two episodes of Boston Legal while stuck in a motel room and too tired to read. Not bad. I'll pick up the series on DVD. Sports? on TV? Yuck. If I want to watch sports I go to the field or the race track. I catch an occasional motor racing event on the boob tube. Ball sport

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I hear it also makes potential sex partners more attractive. Just wear the goggles ... G On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:12 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: Those are great. Beer makes a lot of things possible, including good advertising. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailma

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2008-11-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:19 AM, PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I watch sports for the most part. The only series I try not to miss is > Boston Legal. It's brilliantly written and has a stellar cast. But I believe > this will be its last season. So I may watch only sports:-). Its the o

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2008-11-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I think they'd do fine in Texas, and I bet there are "worse" in Mexico. Adam Maas wrote: Couple of great ads, but neither would ever make it to TV here in North America. They're insufficiently Politically Correct. -Adam On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:04 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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2008-11-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Damn, those are funny... David Savage wrote: I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: Cheers, Dave

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
Do I think it's a good idea? I think this is a free society, and the marketplace is open to all. And, yes, they should make the ad buy that is most likely to help them achieve their goals. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: So you won't buy from them, but you think it'

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2008-11-27 Thread P. J. Alling
What, he has your phone number and you're afraid he'll call at some inconvenient time? frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:40 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, There's only one Norm here, and he's been pret

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
I watch sports for the most part. The only series I try not to miss is Boston Legal. It's brilliantly written and has a stellar cast. But I believe this will be its last season. So I may watch only sports:-). Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 26, 2008, at 7:4

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
What's more, they're a lot longer than 30 seconds. Almost no one buys 60s any more. (That being said, half the commercials on my reel are 60s, but I'm a relic:-). I think the "political incorrectness" would pass muster for some advertisiers. Have you seen the VW commercials that poke fun at

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
So you won't buy from them, but you think it's a good idea that they strut their stuff as all the novices who go to photo.net might, and that advertising on photo.net is great to further this cause. My opinion: Bleck. HTD! G On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:08 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: I won't buy fr

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
Those are great. Beer makes a lot of things possible, including good advertising. Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:04 AM, David Savage wrote: I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment:

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
just having fun on the web. When I'm working, on the other hand, I may go looking for ads. But I know how to leave it at the office:-). Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 6:50 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/11/27 Thu AM 01:15:04 GMT To: P

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2008-11-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: Marnie aka Doe Advertising isn't entertainment, unfortunately. Sometimes it is. But you don't need a TV for those. You can usually find the entertaining ones on You Tube. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:55 AM, mike wilson wrote: My next site will have galleries based on flash presentation for a variety of reasons. I fully expect half of PDML will boycott it. Mark! (for the underestimation) LOL ... well, the website obviously isn't intended for the PDML Popularity

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2008, at 7:45 PM, John Francis wrote: Rather an exaggeration. There are ways to watch TV that don't involve watching a show at the time of broadcast. They're not free, of course (except for shows streamed over the web from the major networks, but those are even worse - the ads come

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2008-11-27 Thread Adam Maas
Couple of great ads, but neither would ever make it to TV here in North America. They're insufficiently Politically Correct. -Adam On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:04 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. > > Here are 2 of my curre

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2008-11-27 Thread David Savage
I actually really like a good ad, the problem is most are crap. Here are 2 of my current fave's that are on the TV at the moment: Cheers, Dave 2008/11/27 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

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2008-11-27 Thread David Savage
2008/11/27 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 11/27/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > > That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring >>> > > down the party! >>> > > >>> > I

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Date: 2008/11/27 Thu AM 01:15:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor If the advertising didn't work, it wouldn't be there. Web advertisers carefully record hits and compare them to sales. I'm not happy with the Adorama ads on photo.net, but

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2008-11-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/27/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring >> > > down the party! >> > > >> > I'm not old... >> > >> I'm not grumpy... > > I'm not a

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2008-11-27 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:40 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, There's only one Norm here, and he's been pretty quiet lately and I for one would prefer that it stay that way. Let's just leave him out of it, okay? ;-) cheers, fra

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2008-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/27/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring down the party! I'm not old... I'm not grumpy... I'm not a man. Wait. What? Oh you

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2008-11-27 Thread David J Brooks
Ok, i'm going against what seems to be a norm here, and say, i do like to watch TV. HOWEVER, since the invention of reality, yuck, TV, and the infomercial,, i find i am watching far less the past while. I like GOOD sitcoms, those from the 50's and 60's, and to watch hockey, baseball etc. I DO fi

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
at the office:-). Paul On Nov 27, 2008, at 6:50 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/11/27 Thu AM 01:15:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor If the advertising didn't work, it wouldn't be there. Web advert

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2008-11-27 Thread PN Stenquist
But the marketers test those web ads by counting click throughs and comparing that number to sales of featured products. They have to work, or they're gone. That being said, it's probably a bit too soon to say for sure how well the Adorama ads on photo.net work, but I suspect they already h

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2008-11-27 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/11/26 Wed PM 08:13:20 GMT > To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" > Subject: RE: OT - Canadian Meteor > > I have a cause - to rid the world of advertising. I'm putting double-page >

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2008-11-27 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My next site will have galleries based on flash presentation for a > variety of reasons. > I fully expect half of PDML will boycott it. Mark! (for the underestimation) - Email sent from www.virginme

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2008-11-27 Thread mike wilson
> > From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/11/27 Thu AM 01:15:04 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor > > If the advertising didn't work, it wouldn't be there. Web advertisers > carefully record hits and c

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2008-11-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Puts me in mind of the time I had to develop a time/date control, because the out of the box control was so annoying to the users, and management didn't think it was worth buying something so "simple", then endlessly complained about how much time it was taking me to build one. (So it's a run

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2008-11-26 Thread Scott Loveless
On 11/27/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring > > > down the party! > > > > > I'm not old... > > > I'm not grumpy... I'm not a man. Wait. What? -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.t

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2008-11-26 Thread P. J. Alling
David Savage wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 9:37 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor On 26/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: I was a little shocked

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2008-11-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/26/2008 12:37:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Bob. Yes, I want a choice. Advertising isn't entertainment, unfortunately. I hardly watch television any more ... I rent television series I find interesting on DVD and watch them sans comme

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2008-11-26 Thread P. J. Alling
kwell. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PN Stenquist Sent: 26 November 2008 18:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor What a wonderful world this would be if there were no advertising, no commerce. We&

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2008-11-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts I use Firefox and I have the Adblock Plus plug-in for it... but I have never used it. That's because I also have the FlashBlock plug-in. It blocks all Flash elements on a page. It replaces each one with a flash logo, which I can click on if I want to see the Flash content. Th

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2008-11-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" The photo.net ads are only marginally less annoying - at least they don't come with sound. Why don't these people learn? Don't they test people's reactions to their to their stupid, sophomoric ideas? The first lessons in user interface design are: Don't piss off your user; don't put

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2008-11-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin PN Stenquist wrote: > What a wonderful world this would be if there were no advertising, no > commerce. We'd all be dirt farmers living off the land. > Hmmm. I'll pass. I couldn't give a crap about the TV advertising, just go somewhere else. In general, that's how I dea

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2008-11-26 Thread Stan Halpin
This whole discussion brings to mind the old aphorism - before you criticize a man you should first try to walk a mile in his shoes. Then you'll have a one mile head start, and you'll have his shoes. stan On Nov 26, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Cot

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2008-11-26 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:45:38AM -, Bob W wrote: > > The photo.net ads are only marginally less annoying - at least they don't > come with sound. Why don't these people learn? Don't they test people's > reactions to their to their stupid, sophomoric ideas? The first lessons in > user interfa

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2008-11-26 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:36:03PM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Thanks Bob. Yes, I want a choice. > > Advertising isn't entertainment, unfortunately. > > I hardly watch television any more ... I rent television series I find > interesting on DVD and watch them sans commercials. It's the only

Re: OT - Canadian Meteor

2008-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Cotty wrote: That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring down the party! Where's the party? I'm not grumpy ... yet. My next site will have galleries based on flash presentation for a variety of reasons. I fully expect half of PDML

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2008-11-26 Thread PN Stenquist
True. Most of the web advertising I'm doing these days is relatively simple. Usually a two-part text banner that leads to a link. Cost keeps some advertisers from going overboard. But I'd be hard pressed to sell a simple one part text banner. The business is still shaking out. Everyone reme

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2008-11-26 Thread Mark Roberts
PN Stenquist wrote: The economy is tough these days. Everyone is struggling to survive. Marketers seize on any edge they can find. Could the Adorama tie-in backfire for photo.net? Possibly. But chances are, it will prove successful. The trick is to find the balance between noticeable, action

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2008-11-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: that kind of sums it up though, doesn't it. You avoid turning the page. This means that you have to think about how & where you're moving your mouse when you're on that page, which seriously compromises usability and enjoyment. If I'm on the page to look at your photos I shouldn't h

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2008-11-26 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> that kind of sums it up though, doesn't it. You avoid turning the page. This means that you have to think about how & where you're moving your mouse when you're on that page, which seriously compromises usability and enjoyment. B

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2008-11-26 Thread PN Stenquist
If the advertising didn't work, it wouldn't be there. Web advertisers carefully record hits and compare them to sales. I'm not happy with the Adorama ads on photo.net, but I would guess they're working. Newbies who arrive at the site are probably looking for a place to buy equipment. Bingo:

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2008-11-26 Thread PN Stenquist
On Nov 26, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 26, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: With adblock plus, all I had to do was click on the "flash" tag which was superimposed over that page thingie, and told it to block that silliness. Problem solved! Of course, I'm s

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2008-11-26 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:04 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring >> down the party! > > I'm not old... That leaves grumpy and or hoardy. Dave > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://p

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2008-11-26 Thread David Savage
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 9:37 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor On 26/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: > > I was a little shocked at the suggest

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2008-11-26 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26/11/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I also >>arrive 20 minutes late to movies now so as to miss the commercials >>that take up a third of an hour before they start showing the film I >>paid for. I see no

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2008-11-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor That's the spirit Christine - don't let a hoard of grumpy old men bring down the party! Sure, Mr. AllMyTextIsWeenieLittleGifsThatAreImpossibleToReadOnaBigMonitorButThat'sFineBecauseIuse

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2008-11-26 Thread Bob W
> As a photo.net user, I have to admit I was a bit startled > when I discovered > the Adorama page-turner ad when posting some pics > recently--and I admit to a > moment of impatience when I noticed it--but it didn't last > very long, & I > now know how to avoid the turning page. that kind

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2008-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: > I was a little shocked at the suggestion of >avoiding PESOs & GESOs that are posted on photo.net, and here's why: A good >many of you good PDML folks have been friends for a really long time, right? >You've been supporting, encouraging

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2008-11-26 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a photo.net user, I have to admit I was a bit startled when I discovered > the Adorama page-turner ad when posting some pics recently--and I admit to a > moment of impatience when I noticed it--but it didn't last ver

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2008-11-26 Thread Christine Aguila
As a photo.net user, I have to admit I was a bit startled when I discovered the Adorama page-turner ad when posting some pics recently--and I admit to a moment of impatience when I noticed it--but it didn't last very long, & I now know how to avoid the turning page. Moreover, I'm hoping to use

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2008-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: With adblock plus, all I had to do was click on the "flash" tag which was superimposed over that page thingie, and told it to block that silliness. Problem solved! Of course, I'm sure it's CAUSED problems here and there for me, but...

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2008-11-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor Godfrey, You should be able to avoid the TV's. Many customers, eating by themselves, enjoy the entertainment. But you should be able to choose. Around here, the choice is to say home. It s

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2008-11-26 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 26, 2008, at 13:09, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: As I said, "without changing the [default] search domain". Just as you did with flickr.com. Photo.net's stupid page turning animation makes it difficult to hit even the sign in/sign out button occasionally. And pages often hang in loading

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2008-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Cotty wrote: On 26/11/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Nah. I don't snack while watching a film ... I like to concentrate on seeing the film. Depends on the kind of film -> ;-) That's true. Some simply provide an opportunity to take a

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2008-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >Nah. I don't snack while watching a film ... I like to concentrate on >seeing the film. Depends on the kind of film -> ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnap

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2008-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2008, at 1:18 PM, frank theriault wrote: ... We exclusively use our TV to watch DVDs and tapes, most of them from that most incredible of resources: The Public Library! Mind you we in Toronto are blessed with an amazing public library system. Apparently it has the most branches a

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2008-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Cotty wrote: On 26/11/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I also arrive 20 minutes late to movies now so as to miss the commercials that take up a third of an hour before they start showing the film I paid for. I see no reason to pay in order to let

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2008-11-26 Thread Doug Franklin
PN Stenquist wrote: I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm probably guilty:-). Paul On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: I couldn't give a crap about the TV advertising, just go somewhere else. In general, that's how I deal with the "font sizes in pixels" crowd on t

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