Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-24 Thread David J Brooks
: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/mcafee-update--shutting-down-xp-machines/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/22/2010 6:39 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 22, 2010, at 16:29, P. J. Alling wrote: On 4/22/2010 3:25 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23/04/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: To paraphrase Yogi Berra; If Peter Norton were alive today, this would kill him. He isn't? -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio --

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread David Mann
On Apr 23, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Norton IS a virus, and more destructive than most. I do have to applaud Symantec though, it's not just anybody who can make a business model of getting people to pay good money to have their data mangled and computers rendered inoperative.

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread drd1135
What security software do folks suggest? -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:50:54 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers On 4/22/2010 6:39 PM, Adam Maas wrote

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread ann sanfedele
. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:50:54 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers On 4/22/2010 6:39 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: drd1...@gmail.com What security software do folks suggest? Not so much a suggestion as my experience ... I used Norton up until I retired from the military in 2007 and no longer had access to the DoD servers for updated virus definitions. Had it set to automatically do its thing at

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/23/2010 3:42 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 23/04/2010, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: To paraphrase Yogi Berra; If Peter Norton were alive today, this would kill him. He isn't? With Yogi that was kind of the point, it doesn't matter. --

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread P. J. Alling
are free for non commercial use. On 4/23/2010 9:41 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: What security software do folks suggest? -Original Message- From: P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:50:54 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Bug hits XP

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
/2010 9:41 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: What security software do folks suggest? -Original Message- From: P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:50:54 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
One of the problems with Norton is that it's a bitch to get rid of everything it leaves on your system when you uninstall it. Symantec made available a removal tool to get rid of all the little bits and pieces after you do a conventional uninstall. But...you need to (1), know that bits and

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:58 AM, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote: On Apr 23, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Norton IS a virus, and more destructive than most. I do have to applaud Symantec though, it's not just anybody who can make a business model of getting people to pay good

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Adam Maas
AVG here as well (and I've run Avast in the past with success) , the MS firewall along with a hardware firewall for that side of things. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: I've had good luck, too, with AVG on a desktop and two laptops and Avast on

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Paul Sorenson One of the problems with Norton is that it's a bitch to get rid of everything it leaves on your system when you uninstall it. Symantec made available a removal tool to get rid of all the little bits and pieces after you do a conventional uninstall. But...you need to (1),

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Adam Maas MS actually provides software that does something other than wreck your system. Ain't anywhere near perfect, but it's quite usable for most people. Symantec sells some prety good stuff, but the only thing they sell with the Norton name on it that isn't actively destructive is

RE: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Bob W
DoD mandated Micro$oft Word, but I'd have to actively FIGHT the auto-formating features to create a training outline that met Army Standards for the document. I'd turn auto-format functions off, and with every new paragraph Word would turn them back on. Not only turn them back on for the

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: The problems with Word are twofold: first, it suffers hugely from an excess of 'features' which people don't need and will never use, and second, people never actually learn to use it, treating it as a typewriter. The

RE: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Bob W
The problems with Word are twofold: first, it suffers hugely from an excess of 'features' which people don't need and will never use, and second, people never actually learn to use it, treating it as a typewriter. The corollary to number 2, which I keep running into, is that

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
You can find it here... http://tinyurl.com/qv7hrk* * -p* *On 4/23/2010 1:13 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Sorenson One of the problems with Norton is that it's a bitch to get rid of everything it leaves on your system when you uninstall it. Symantec made available a removal tool to get

RE: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W DoD mandated Micro$oft Word, but I'd have to actively FIGHT the auto-formating features to create a training outline that met Army Standards for the document. I'd turn auto-format functions off, and with every new paragraph Word would turn them back on. Not only turn them back

RE: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Bob W
Works great except for one thing ... a typewriter is exactly what I wanted and needed. Unfortunately, I was required to use Word instead. If someone says you have to use a hammer it's silly to try and use it like a screwdriver, even if that's what you wanted. Bob -- PDML

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24/04/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using Avast on two of my machines and AVG on my laptop. I've had no problems so far, knock silicon. Both seem to be fast, lightweight and except for AVAST which when the Virus database is updated announces it loudly over

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
Have you tried WordPad? It's in your Accessories folder. BTW, I really liked Professional Write, too. -p On 4/23/2010 6:12 PM, John Sessoms wrote: The free mini-WP Windows Write that came in 3.1 and maybe 95 was almost as good ... basically Notepad with user definable tab stops fonts and

RE: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W orks great except for one thing ... a typewriter is exactly what I wanted and needed. Unfortunately, I was required to use Word instead. If someone says you have to use a hammer it's silly to try and use it like a screwdriver, even if that's what you wanted. Try to envision

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Paul Sorenson Have you tried WordPad? It's in your Accessories folder. BTW, I really liked Professional Write, too. -p On 4/23/2010 6:12 PM, John Sessoms wrote: The free mini-WP Windows Write that came in 3.1 and maybe 95 was almost as good ... basically Notepad with user definable

RE: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-23 Thread John Coyle
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OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-22 Thread mike wilson
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Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-22 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/22 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/mcafee-update--shutting-down-xp-machines/ It was the hottest subject of conversation at work today. Half schadenfreude, half gallows humor... Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-22 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/22/2010 3:25 PM, mike wilson wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/mcafee-update--shutting-down-xp-machines/ Then I'm really pleased I didn't buy McAfee. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:29 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/22/2010 3:25 PM, mike wilson wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/mcafee-update--shutting-down-xp-machines/ Then I'm really pleased I didn't buy McAfee. I did, but i have not used my PC for the last

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-22 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 22, 2010, at 16:29, P. J. Alling wrote: On 4/22/2010 3:25 PM, mike wilson wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/mcafee-update--shutting-down-xp-machines/ Then I'm really pleased I didn't buy McAfee. Stay the hell away from Symantec's bloatware, too - if you want your machine

Re: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-22 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 22, 2010, at 16:29, P. J. Alling wrote: On 4/22/2010 3:25 PM, mike wilson wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/mcafee-update--shutting-down-xp-machines/ Then I'm really pleased I didn't buy McAfee. Stay

RE: OT Bug hits XP machines - of interest to network managers

2010-04-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: mike wilson http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/mcafee-update--shutting-down-xp-machines/ I've been noticing some sites stuttering today ... won't scroll, moving down the page only in fits and starts. Wonder if that's related? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net