Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread John Celio
>> I don't understand why you thought my logic was bad > > Your statements didn't point out in any way in which the SD was physically > different from the CF. > Godfrey's did. I assumed anyone who cared would have seen the differences by now. They're pretty obvious (to me anyway) if one takes a

RE: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Waller Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > I don't understand why you thought my logic was bad Your statements di

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
> I don't understand why you thought my logic was bad Your statements didn't point out in any way in which the SD was physically different from the CF. Godfrey's did. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread John Celio
> The logic in you statement just doesn't hold, so how is what you stated > any > different with the SD card. > Maybe the universe of CF cards was just bigger than SD cards. I don't understand why you thought my logic was bad, but I'm glad Godfrey cleared things up for you. John -- http://www.

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread John Celio
> The biggest problem we had was with cards that hadn't been formatted that > wouldn't read in the readers at all, though they would read in camera. > The second biggest problem we had was Sony Memory Sticks. Oh man, non- (or improperly-) formatted cards were a nightmare too, since the customers

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread John Celio
> I'd say that if you could get the CF card into the slot backwards, > without using a sufficient amount of force to destroy the slot, it was > incorrectly designed to begin with. I have a card reader with a type II > slot where you could possibly incorrectly insert a type one card, > (though it d

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread cesar_abdul
That is one of the things I dislike of SD cards. I have two for my Optio S and S4. Both of them have loose switches. I am sure there are plenty of hardship cases with both types of memory, but I have never had a CF ever act up on me. Your mileage will vary, Cesar Panama City, Florida in Balti

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "jim" Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:31:01 -0600, William Robb wrote: > >>The second biggest problem we had was Sony Memory Sticks. > > Why is that? I am totally ignorant of how they work/con

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 10/01/07, John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The one that almost made me laugh in someone's face was the old woman who > saw the little arrow on the CF card and thought it was supposed to be > pointing up, instead of into the card slot. Every single pin in the slot > was flat. She had be

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread jim
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:31:01 -0600, William Robb wrote: >The second biggest problem we had was Sony Memory Sticks. Why is that? I am totally ignorant of how they work/connect etc. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread wendy beard
The switch one of my SD cards is loose and won't stay in the unlocked position. I considered trying to glue it but the whole plastic casing is terribly flimsy. One of the ridges on the bottom has broken off. I wouldn't mind but it's one of my newest cards and my only 2Gb card as well. On 1/8/07, P

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? >> Talk to anyone who worked within the retail industry and they will have >> some >> sort of horror story about bent pins on CF cards. > > I don't doubt th

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thanks Godfrey, some pretty obvious things which I've never noticed/paid attention to. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > > On Jan 9, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Kenneth

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: >> Talk to anyone who worked within the retail industry and they will >> have >> some >> sort of horror story about bent pins on CF cards. > > I don't doubt that for a minute. My question is why are CF cards "more > prone" to issues than the SD

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
inal Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > > >> The logic in you statement just doesn

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > The logic in you statement just doesn't hold, so how is what you stated > any > different with the SD card. > Maybe the universe of CF cards was just bigger than SD c

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > I'd say that if you could get the CF card into the slot backwards, > without using a sufficient amount of force to destroy the slot, it was > incorrectly designed to be

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd say that if you could get the CF card into the slot backwards, without using a sufficient amount of force to destroy the slot, it was incorrectly designed to begin with. I have a card reader with a type II slot where you could possibly incorrectly insert a type one card, (though it doesn't

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
The logic in you statement just doesn't hold, so how is what you stated any different with the SD card. Maybe the universe of CF cards was just bigger than SD cards. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How does

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I tested by doing multiple data transfers, both directions, of full 1 and 2 G cards on four computer systems (my mac os x desktop and laptop, a friend's windows XP desktop and laptop). Of the six card readers I tested, only the Sandisk did this 100% reliably with 2G cards at that time (last

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Celio" Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > > Bent pins are a nightmare, because you have to support the customer for > something they did from not following the instructions. It's not a > manufacturing defect, bu

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/09/07 10:03 AM, "Thibouille", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That said, in a properly designed CF slot (most card readers are not) > but like the ist-D, I really can't imagine someone damaging the > pins... did someone from PDML managed to damage any ? ;) In my case, it was a dark side G3 whic

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Thibouille
My Little USB reader reads happily my 4GB Microdrive but noticed my 1GB Sandisk Ultra2+ (which is SD/USB combo card... very handy) will not be read by the USB reader in SD card mode. However the SD reader in my IBM thinkpad reads it pretty well (but slowly). 2007/1/9, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Thibouille
That said, in a properly designed CF slot (most card readers are not) but like the ist-D, I really can't imagine someone damaging the pins... did someone from PDML managed to damage any ? ;) 2007/1/9, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 1/09/07 9:17 AM, "Godfrey DiGiorgi", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Thibouille
> The one that almost made me laugh in someone's face was the old woman who > saw the little arrow on the CF card and thought it was supposed to be > pointing up, instead of into the card slot. Every single pin in the slot > was flat. She had been so sure of herself, she took a small rubber mallo

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 09/01/07, Henk Terhell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My CF/SD reader is indeed in the PC case. Meanwhile I discovered that > another SD card won't be read by this. Time to get an an external USB > reader. I also found that my integrated card reader that has for at least three years read my 2GB C

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, most likely a bad SD reader in your computer. I recommend the Sandisk ImageMate 12-in-1 USB 2.0 reader. I tested about six different readers, and this was the fastest, and most reliable by far. Godfrey On Jan 9, 2007, at 3:55 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: > My CF/SD reader is indeed in the P

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
How did you test reliability? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > I recommend the Sandisk ImageMate 12-in-1 USB 2.0 reader. I tested > about six different readers, and this was the fastest, and most > reliable by far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread John Celio
> Just pop your SD card in your DSLR only upside down and push real > hard, you'll find something will break but most often it's the card. > I'm also hearing more anecdotes about dirty contacts on SD cards > causing read/write unreliability. Nothing's fool proof. True, but it's vastly easier to be

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/09/07 9:17 AM, "Godfrey DiGiorgi", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a bent pin in a CF card cage. As a person who experienced this (I was always careful in making sure that CF card was pushed in proper orientation and straight), it was such a relief when I saw sliding contacts of SD cards. Ken

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 8, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > Just pop your SD card in your DSLR only upside down and push real > hard, you'll find something will break but most often it's the card. > I'm also hearing more anecdotes about dirty contacts on SD cards > causing read/write unreliability

RE: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Henk Terhell
PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? I often have trouble with a CF card in the reader. But in my case simply pulling out the USB cable for a second and plugging it back into the reader causes the drive to appear in a window immediately. But if the reader is i

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread jim
At my work, they bought a digital camera around 2000, a 3 Mp point and shoot thing but it was an up market one with hot shoe flash. Cannot remember the brand now. it uses i think a CF card or something like it, not little pins. It cannot be used any more because of the repeated times the card has

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Don Williams
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > > > On 09/01/07, John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Bent pins are a nightmare, because you have to support the customer >> for something they did from not following the in

RE: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Henk Terhell
for these tiny things?). Now I have to use the PC cable to unload this card. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: 09 January, 2007 8:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Thibouille
Sometimes I wonder how this is possible. Older people, well they have a good excuse I imagine but others? Well, thinking about it, I'm happy the P&S my mother uses is using SD cards... She probably would be first candidate :D -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,Su

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-08 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 09/01/07, John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bent pins are a nightmare, because you have to support the customer for > something they did from not following the instructions. It's not a > manufacturing defect, but the customer will usually piss and moan like it > is. > > I think that was

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-08 Thread John Celio
> When Pentax said they were swtiching to SD cards, I did my own > investigating on them and learned about the lock that will prevent the > user erasing anything important. I heard that CF cards were headed in > that direction, but never have seen a CF card with a lock on it to prevent > erasure.

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, I've been a CF user, so I was unaware of the lock. Now I know. It's a good thing if you know it's there:-). Paul On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When Pentax said they were swtiching to SD cards, I did my own > investigating on them and learned about the lock that wil

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Not a silly question. I didn't know there was a switch on the card. live and learn. Paul On Jan 8, 2007, at 8:36 PM, David Savage wrote: > Silly question, is the slide switch on the side of the card in the > "Lock" position? > > Dave > > On 1/9/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-08 Thread japilado
When Pentax said they were swtiching to SD cards, I did my own investigating on them and learned about the lock that will prevent the user erasing anything important. I heard that CF cards were headed in that direction, but never have seen a CF card with a lock on it to prevent erasure. I have l

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Did you try sliding the little switch to the other position? Paul Stenquist wrote: > One of my SD cards (my lone surviving Transcend 2 gig card) shows up as > locked when I put it in the K10D. Thus, I can't format it. I suppose I > may have done something to lock it, although I can't remember wh

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, Look for a little sliding thing on the side of the card. It is a mechanical switch. Regards, Bob S. On 1/8/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of my SD cards (my lone surviving Transcend 2 gig card) shows up as > locked when I put it in the K10D. Thus, I can't format it. I s

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-08 Thread David Savage
Silly question, is the slide switch on the side of the card in the "Lock" position? Dave On 1/9/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of my SD cards (my lone surviving Transcend 2 gig card) shows up as > locked when I put it in the K10D. Thus, I can't format it. I suppose I > may ha