But I miss those beautiful red southern California sunsets that were
compliments of tetraethyl lead in the atmosphere.
Jeffery
>>
> A lot of it is very new. Gasoline engines have changed dramatically in the
> last couple of years. A lot of that came with the perfecting of direct
> injection t
On Sep 22, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> Lots of business "mistakes" need to be made to comply with
> California's over-regulation of everything.
It's California regulation that has virtually eliminated diesel passenger cars
from the U.S. market.
>
> Dan M
>
>
>> You should
On Sep 22, 2010, at 12:43 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> P N Stenquist wrote:
>> On Sep 20, 2010, at 3:34 PM, John Francis wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:53:24PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:
>>>
On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> P N Stenquist wrote:
>
>
Lots of business "mistakes" need to be made to comply with
California's over-regulation of everything.
Dan M
> You should get that information to Honda, asap. Their present leasing of
> 800 hydrogen fuel-cell powered cars in California is obviously a
> business-busting mistake.
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Adam Maas wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:11 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
Oh yes there are!
Not many, admittedly.
But at the last count there were over 40 in California.
Heck, you've even got two in Illinois - one in Chicago (for the CTA
buses),
and a publicly-accessible one in Des Plaines.
P N Stenquist wrote:
On Sep 20, 2010, at 3:34 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:53:24PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:
On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:
P N Stenquist wrote:
I'm engaged in some deep research on new engine designs. You'd be
surprised to lea
On 2010-09-21 13:38 , Ken Waller wrote:
From: "steve harley"
but he's still a very sharp and in-the-moment speaker
Especially when he's on the teleprompter.
i don't know about that, i was thinking of when he isn't on the teleprompter
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I have plenty of problems with GWB. However history shows that he
wasn't even close to the main culprit here.
On 9/21/2010 4:14 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: "P. J. Alling"
You got to get your
head out of your Ideological ass.
I will if you will.
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You got to get your
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I will if you will.
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
On 2010-09-20 18:12 , William Robb wrote:
--
Fr
On 9/21/2010 11:21 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: "William Robb"
From: "steve harley"
>
> the point is that Clinton's economic policies were bad enough that
i gag
> when someone writes "he's the best president you've had ..."
>
You should try living somewhere other than where you are for a wh
From: Doug Brewer
Has anyone brought Hitler into this thread yet?
Let me know, so we can get on to whining about the K-5.
Whining about the K-5 already has its own thread, and besides would be
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From: "William Robb"
From: "steve harley"
>
> the point is that Clinton's economic policies were bad enough that i gag
> when someone writes "he's the best president you've had ..."
>
You should try living somewhere other than where you are for a while. You
will find that often an outsider's pe
From: steve harley
On 2010-09-20 18:12 , William Robb wrote:
A lot of the recession was caused by people who just didn't think things
> through when they were taking out those subprime mortgages.
leaving aside the sociodynamics of mortgage hucksterism, and the
financial education that almost
Just an FYI: Ken Waller was a Ford engineer and served as an expert witness in
many of those cases.
Paul
On Sep 21, 2010, at 11:00 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "Ken Waller"
>> From: "Jeffery Smith"
>>
>>> > At least it has been since the Ford Pinto was discontinued. ;-)
>>
>> And the Pinto
From: "Ken Waller"
From: "Jeffery Smith"
> At least it has been since the Ford Pinto was discontinued. ;-)
And the Pinto is hit from the rear without the gas cap on
Didn't matter whether the cap was on or off.
The design of how the filler neck connected to the gas tank was
vulnerable
From: "William Robb"
Not to mention that selling off your industrial might to China was probably
not the smartest thing to do in the long haul, though I'm certain that the
short term gains were nice for your corporate masters.
Not something you can entirely blame on Bush the younger for all his
On 2010-09-21 2:38, Bob W wrote:
Most people don't seem to remember the Graham-Leach-
Bliley Act
Really?
Yeah, really. It was a /big/ deal when the US Congress debated it, then
passed it, in 1999. It seems, however, to have passed from the minds of
the so-called experts. I guess ten year
> Most people don't seem to remember the Graham-Leach-
> Bliley Act
Really?
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
Here's a quote you should ponder.
"When he legislature decides what is bought and sold, the first thing
bought and sold is the legi
On 9/21/2010 12:25 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:
On 21 September 2010 11:52, steve harley wrote:
it is the bankers -- the
professionals at risk management -- who didn't evaluate the risk properly
... they sold riskier and riskier loans as they invented cleverer ways to
ignore the risk;
Oh, but tha
On 21 September 2010 11:52, steve harley wrote:
> it is the bankers -- the
> professionals at risk management -- who didn't evaluate the risk properly
> ... they sold riskier and riskier loans as they invented cleverer ways to
> ignore the risk;
>
Oh, but that was the whole appeal of the sub-prim
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> Has anyone brought Hitler into this thread yet?
"And now it's...
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Deutschland is happy and gay!
We're marching to a faster pace
Look out, here comes the master race!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Rhinelan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:56 PM, paul stenquist
wrote:
> bitch, bitch, bitch , bitch, bitch!
Well done!
cheers,
frank
;-)
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On 2010-09-20 20:00 , William Robb wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
the point is that Clinton's economic policies were bad enough that i
gag when someone writes
bitch, bitch, bitch , bitch, bitch!
On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:08 PM, frank theriault wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:58 PM, P. J. Alling
> wrote:
>
>> Probably never will be. Hydrogen is a b***h to handle. Just ask NASA.
>
> I think we can say "bitch" on this list.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
Steve,
Those last two links are a nice summary of the idiocy of it all.
Those who benefit from the legislation have been bamboozled into opposing it.
Go figure.
Regards, Bob S.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:04 PM, steve harley wrote:
> On 2010-09-20 01:33 , eckinator wrote:
>>
>> 2010/9/20 P. J. All
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
the point is that Clinton's economic policies were bad enough that i gag
when someone writes "he's the best president you'
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:58 PM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> Probably never will be. Hydrogen is a b***h to handle. Just ask NASA.
I think we can say "bitch" on this list.
cheers,
frank
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On 2010-09-20 18:12 , William Robb wrote:
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i blame Clinton for the latest recession; it was he who scuttled
Glass-Steagal
He was also the last President you've had who could actually speak
knowledgably without a teleprompt
On 2010-09-20 18:41 , John Sessoms wrote:
From: steve harley
On 2010-09-20 12:09 , Bob W wrote:
> Clinton was easily the best president you guys have had, certainly
during my
> lifetime. It's a pity Hillary lost out to Obama.
i blame Clinton for the latest recession; it was he who scuttled
Gla
From: steve harley
On 2010-09-20 12:09 , Bob W wrote:
> Clinton was easily the best president you guys have had, certainly during my
> lifetime. It's a pity Hillary lost out to Obama.
i blame Clinton for the latest recession; it was he who scuttled
Glass-Steagal
Equal blame should accrue to S
How's that hope and change working for you all?
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
At least it has been since the Ford Pinto was discontinued. ;-)
And the Pinto is hit from the re
--
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
On 2010-09-20 12:09 , Bob W wrote:
Clinton was easily the best president you guys have had, certainly during
my
lifetime. It's a pity Hill
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From: "William Robb"
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
> From: P N Ste
On 2010-09-20 19:08, steve harley wrote:
i blame Clinton for the latest recession; it was he who scuttled
Glass-Steagal
Amen, brother. Most people don't seem to remember the
Graham-Leach-Bliley Act, which is the one that in 1999 repealed a
crucial part of Glass-Steagal, the separations betw
On 2010-09-20 12:09 , Bob W wrote:
Clinton was easily the best president you guys have had, certainly during my
lifetime. It's a pity Hillary lost out to Obama.
i blame Clinton for the latest recession; it was he who scuttled
Glass-Steagal
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On 2010-09-20 01:33 , eckinator wrote:
2010/9/20 P. J. Alling:
Voters were promised that they would get more health care for less money.
here's a view of that promise (understanding that the final bill was the
result of Democrats cutting under pressure many of Obama's original ideas)
Yes, I fondly remember the Pinto, the jokes we told.
On 9/20/2010 6:20 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
At least it has been since the Ford Pinto was discontinued. ;-)
Jeffery
On Sep 20, 2010, at 5:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Yet the incidence of exploding fuel tanks in even catastrophic automobile
At least it has been since the Ford Pinto was discontinued. ;-)
Jeffery
On Sep 20, 2010, at 5:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> Yet the incidence of exploding fuel tanks in even catastrophic automobile
> accidents, Hollywood not withstanding, is near zero.
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I'm not worried about hydrogen being explosive. Gasoline is more than
explosive enough. Yet the incidence of exploding fuel tanks in even
catastrophic automobile accidents, Hollywood not withstanding, is near
zero. A fuel system designed for H2 could possibly be safer in a crash
than Gasoli
On 9/20/2010 5:09 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:11 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
Oh yes there are!
Not many, admittedly.
But at the last count there were over 40 in California.
Heck, you've even got two in Illinois - one in Chicago (for the CTA
buses),
and a publicly-accessible o
And I think hydrogen has a tendency to implode rather than explode (unless you
burn it very fast, with liquid oxygen).
Jeffery
On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:58 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> On 9/20/2010 1:53 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>> On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>>
>>> P N Stenquist w
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:11 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
>> Oh yes there are!
>>
>> Not many, admittedly.
>> But at the last count there were over 40 in California.
>> Heck, you've even got two in Illinois - one in Chicago (for the CTA
>> buses),
>> and a publicly-accessible one in Des Plaines.
>>
>
2010/9/20 John Sessoms :
>
> Keep in mind that what finally passed is a crippled plan meant for the
> benefit of the insurance industry rather than for the benefit of the people.
would you happen to know a link to a qualified analysis, please?
thanks
ecke
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On Sep 20, 2010, at 3:34 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:53:24PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:
On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:
P N Stenquist wrote:
I'm engaged in some deep research on new engine designs. You'd
be surprised to learn who the laggards are
P. J. Alling wrote:
On 9/20/2010 1:53 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:
P N Stenquist wrote:
I'm engaged in some deep research on new engine designs. You'd be
surprised to learn who the laggards are.
Easy. Anyone designing a propulsive system th
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:53:24PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:
>
> On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>
> > P N Stenquist wrote:
> >
> >> I'm engaged in some deep research on new engine designs. You'd be
> >> surprised to learn who the laggards are.
> >
> > Easy. Anyone designi
On 9/20/2010 1:53 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:
P N Stenquist wrote:
I'm engaged in some deep research on new engine designs. You'd be surprised to
learn who the laggards are.
Easy. Anyone designing a propulsive system that has anything other t
From: eckinator
2010/9/20 P. J. Alling :
>
> ?Voters were promised that they would get more health care for less money.
> ?In reality those who already have insurance will be getting less health
> care for more money and those without insurance will be /required/ to /buy/
> it or face penalties
Hillary isn't just a politician, she is positively dishonest and
belongs in jail.
A key document/file in the Whitewater scandal went missing. (Remember
that's the crooked Real Estate deal Hillary cooked up when she figured
out Bill was gonna be a pennyless ex-governor.) The document/file
went mis
On 9/20/2010 5:17 AM, eckinator wrote:
2010/9/20 P. J. Alling:
You are wrong about that. The free plan already existed, it's called
Medicaid. Beyond that there is no free in new system. Insurance is already
a highly regulated industry. Since I live there and have a fairly intimate
knowledg
> John,
> You are absolutely right on the hijacked debate and tea party numb-nuts.
> I watched ex-president Clinton give a lucid accounting of the health care
> problem on Sunday TV. The sound bite went something like...'The US
> spends 17% of GDP on Health Care. Other major nations spend 10%.
>
On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:09 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> P N Stenquist wrote:
>
>> I'm engaged in some deep research on new engine designs. You'd be surprised
>> to learn who the laggards are.
>
> Easy. Anyone designing a propulsive system that has anything other than neat
> hydrogen in its fuel t
Jeffery,
Like and 'Tricky Dick' don't belong in the same sentence!
Regards, Bob S.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> I liked Richard Nixon more as a pre-president than as a president or
> post-president.
>
> Jeffery
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2010, at 11:17 AM, eckinator wrote:
>
>
P N Stenquist wrote:
I'm engaged in some deep research on new engine designs. You'd be
surprised to learn who the laggards are.
Easy. Anyone designing a propulsive system that has anything other than
neat hydrogen in its fuel tank.
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On Sep 20, 2010, at 11:17 AM, eckinator wrote:
> 2010/9/20 Bob Sullivan :
>>
>> (I like 'Slick Willy' more as an ex-president than when he was in office.)
>
> many of them do great things after their
2010/9/20 Bob Sullivan :
>
> (I like 'Slick Willy' more as an ex-president than when he was in office.)
many of them do great things after their presidency. think Jimmy
Carter for example. perhaps the term should be shortened to have a
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The difference is the profits of the insurers.'
(I like 'Slick Willy' more as an ex-president than when he was in office.)
Regards, Bob S.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:10 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "William Robb"
>>
>> From: "John Sessoms"
>> Su
On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:10 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: "William Robb"
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
> From: P N Stenquist
>> Frank. The guy with the most votes wins. Period. Sorry, but
that
From: "William Robb"
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
> From: P N Stenquist
>> Frank. The guy with the most votes wins. Period. Sorry, but that's the
>> truth.
>
> Not always.
>
> Co
2010/9/20 P. J. Alling :
>
> You are wrong about that. The free plan already existed, it's called
> Medicaid. Beyond that there is no free in new system. Insurance is already
> a highly regulated industry. Since I live there and have a fairly intimate
> knowledge of it I'll cite Connecticut as
On 9/20/2010 3:33 AM, eckinator wrote:
2010/9/20 P. J. Alling:
Voters were promised that they would get more health care for less money.
In reality those who already have insurance will be getting less health
care for more money and those without insurance will be /required/ to /buy/
it or
2010/9/20 P. J. Alling :
>
> Voters were promised that they would get more health care for less money.
> In reality those who already have insurance will be getting less health
> care for more money and those without insurance will be /required/ to /buy/
> it or face penalties collected by the IR
S.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 12:32 PM, William Robb wrote:
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From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
From: P N Stenquist
Frank. The guy with the most votes wins. Period. Sorry, but that'
program. Some can be confused into opposing it, but
that can't continue indefinitely.
Regards, Bob S.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 12:32 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
> --
> From: "John Sessoms"
> Subject: Re: OT: Civil Righ
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
From: P N Stenquist
Frank. The guy with the most votes wins. Period. Sorry, but that's the
truth.
Not always.
Consider also why voter
From: P N Stenquist
Frank. The guy with the most votes wins. Period. Sorry, but that's the
truth.
Not always.
Consider also why voter turnouts are so frequently low. There are other
ways to rig an election besides stealing a ballot box.
Every election in this and the last century was "decid
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>
> Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
>
>
>>
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
>>
>>>
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:07 PM, P N Stenquist
wrote:
On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:49 PM, William
And remember FORD DIDN'T TAKE THE MONEY !; + )
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Wil
On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:07 PM, P N Stenquist > wrote:
On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmaske
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:07 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
>
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>>
>> --
>> From: "P N Stenquist"
>> Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as I
On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
Both of those actions helped prevent the country, and the city in
which I live, from g
At the same time he distroyed automobile dealerships and banks that
didn't donate to his party. Don't think Obama is pro or anti business,
(though as are most lawyers, he is pretty much clueless on business and
economics), he's pro himself and his power base. But then a lot of us
knew that b
Nope, that honor went to Bush in the last few months before Obama was sworn in.
> In any case, Obama hasn't tried to please the corporations.
He bailed out banks (uber-capitalists until they need government
money, then they become welfare bums). He bailed out car companies.
Yeah, he's been real
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Well, maybe I am naive. However history certainly shows us that in a
corporate capitalist system (I am distinguishing that from a pure
capital
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Subject: Re: OT: Civil Rights Photographer Unmasked as Informer
Both of those actions helped prevent the country, and the city in which I
live, from going belly up. In terms of the auto bailouts, GM is now
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And I know it's hard for a lefty to accept this, but sometimes what's
good for the corporations is also good for the majority.
This w
But I could not resist. So no more comments.
It was very, very good to see that the kids are playing nice.
Enjoy your days. I'm back off to class.
Ah, grad school!
Sincerely,
Collin Brendemuehl
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
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>In any case, Obama hasn't tried to please the corporations. He
>instituted tough financial regulations and mandated health care that
>'s going to be costly for many businesses. Unfortunately or
>fortunately, depending on one's point of view, the majority doesn't
>seem to approve. Time will
P N Stenquist wrote:
On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:44 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:33 PM, P N Stenquist
wrote:
That's fringe paranoia. No one is compelled to vote based on cpr[prate
campaign contributions or the opinions of lobbyists. And they don't.
If they
had, Mc
frank theriault wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:13 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
When leadership is ultimately determined at the ballot box, the interests of the
ruling party will eventually and inevitably come to reflect the interest of the
public
You're living in a fantasy world, Paul.
On 9/18/2010 7:03 AM, frank theriault wrote:
Now you won't let me out of this discussion!
By providing no answer to your message I /practically/ *wink* will let
you out ;-).
Boris
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On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Now you won't let me out of this discussion!
;-)
> If the force that narrows the gap (between rich and poor, etc) is applied
> from without of the system (e.g. by the governmental regulation) then you
> just contradicted yourself or came a
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Me too Frank, and I have trouble with this political discussion.
> It's pure huberis for those outside our system to imagine that we are
> not getting the political leadership we want and deserve.
> Although sometimes it's a lot more about wh
On 9/18/2010 6:47 AM, frank theriault wrote:
I'm not saying it should be "the same for everyone". I'm saying
things could be much more equitable, that society's least advantaged
could be better taken care of, that the gap between rich and poor
doesn't have to be so large and getting larger. Thi
On 9/18/2010 6:35 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:32 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
HAR! Biblical!
Yes, well, it's Yom Kippur here in North America until sundown
tomorrow evening. I'm not sure what time it is in Israel, but I'm
guessing that Boris just spent lots of time ato
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:38 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
> Perhaps it could be the same for everyone, but then there would be no
> motivation to succeed and carve out one's place in the world.
I'm not saying it should be "the same for everyone". I'm saying
things could be much more equitable, tha
Me too Frank, and I have trouble with this political discussion.
It's pure huberis for those outside our system to imagine that we are
not getting the political leadership we want and deserve.
Although sometimes it's a lot more about what we deserve than what we want!
Such is life. You's pays your
On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:28 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:03 AM, P N Stenquist > wrote:
Frank. The guy with the most votes wins. Period. Sorry, but that's
the
truth.
No arguments here.
All presidents want a second term. Ultimately, they try to please the
majority.
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:32 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
> HAR! Biblical!
Yes, well, it's Yom Kippur here in North America until sundown
tomorrow evening. I'm not sure what time it is in Israel, but I'm
guessing that Boris just spent lots of time atoning and is now
thinking only Biblical thoughts
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> And then Frank wrote some and Paul wrote some more and so it was for some
> time.
>
>
> Guys, you're both wrong and you're both right... Is that ok with you?
No. I'm right.
Wait, I'm left.
Oh, the hell with it!
;-)
Whatever the case
On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:28 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
On 9/18/2010 6:03 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:44 PM, frank theriault wrote:
And then Frank wrote some and Paul wrote some more and so it was for
some time.
HAR! Biblical!
Guys, you're both wrong and you're both ri
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:03 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
> Frank. The guy with the most votes wins. Period. Sorry, but that's the
> truth.
No arguments here.
> All presidents want a second term. Ultimately, they try to please the
> majority.
No, they have to make it ~look~ like they're pleasing
On 9/18/2010 6:03 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:44 PM, frank theriault wrote:
And then Frank wrote some and Paul wrote some more and so it was for
some time.
Guys, you're both wrong and you're both right... Is that ok with you?
Boris
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On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:44 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:33 PM, P N Stenquist > wrote:
That's fringe paranoia. No one is compelled to vote based on
cpr[prate
campaign contributions or the opinions of lobbyists. And they
don't. If they
had, McCain would have won her
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:33 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
> That's fringe paranoia. No one is compelled to vote based on cpr[prate
> campaign contributions or the opinions of lobbyists. And they don't. If they
> had, McCain would have won here.
That's not fringe paranoia, that's the way government
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