Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-12 Thread Ronald Arvidsson
For your information. In science a lot of people - including myself dont use MS unless forced to by external party. In the Unix/Linux community there are a lot of software that will do the job as well or even better than MS stuff which often can only be used on MS platforms which sometimes is

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-12 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:48 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Not true. Adobe has no restriction about using a legally obtained academic version of Photoshop for commercial purposes. In fact, that's ~exactly~ what Adobe would like you to do as that will usually start you on the upgrade path and

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-11 Thread David Mann
On Dec 11, 2005, at 1:13 AM, Bob Shell wrote: There's an easy way to buy Microsoft Office at a very good price. Microsoft offers special student pricing. Just sign up for a course at your local community college, any course, and you are officially a student. I got Microsoft Office for

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-11 Thread David Mann
On Dec 11, 2005, at 12:15 AM, graywolf wrote: Yep, they made it near prefect a few versions back, then they had to add features until it is nearly unusable. But that is the MS Way. I had a good play with Apple's Pages application yesterday evening. I think I might buy it as some of its

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-11 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 11, 2005, at 3:32 AM, David Mann wrote: I did that a couple of years ago for a whole bunch of Macromedia software. Got my student ID card by signing up for a weekend course. It worked in Macromedia's favour because I ended up buying the commercial package (not nearly as ruinous as

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-11 Thread David Mann
On Dec 12, 2005, at 1:43 AM, Bob Shell wrote: I'm not sure I understand that distinction. I live in a college town and all of the professors I know get their software at the academic price. Many of them then write books with Microsoft Word and get paid for doing so. I'm sure Microsoft

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-11 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:53:24PM +1300, David Mann wrote: On Dec 12, 2005, at 1:43 AM, Bob Shell wrote: I'm not sure I understand that distinction. I live in a college town and all of the professors I know get their software at the academic price. Many of them then write books with

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not true. Adobe has no restriction about using a legally obtained academic version of Photoshop for commercial purposes. In fact, that's ~exactly~ what Adobe would like you to do as that will usually start you on the upgrade path and keep you using Photoshop into the future. Shel You meet the

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-10 Thread David Mann
On Dec 10, 2005, at 7:29 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Generally a bad idea -- but a few people claim that it works. In theory, the OS can do a much better job of managing the left-over RAM than the RAM disk software. And in our tests, RAM disks don't help, they slow things down. Well it was only

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-10 Thread David Mann
On Dec 10, 2005, at 9:41 AM, graywolf wrote: Yet us folks without those connections should pay $600 without a complaint? I have an Office X demo CD somewhere but I don't plan to use it. My partner's work-supplied laptop came with Office pre-installed so for the few occasions when I need

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-10 Thread graywolf
Yep, they made it near prefect a few versions back, then they had to add features until it is nearly unusable. But that is the MS Way. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- David Mann wrote: On Dec 10, 2005, at 9:41 AM,

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-10 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 9, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Yet us folks without those connections should pay $600 without a complaint? No body is forcing you to buy it. I certainly wouldn't have bought it for $600. Complain all you want (not sure who you can complain to that will do any good)

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
PS CS2 can use 3GB of memory in Windows under certain circumstances. http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/320005.html Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: David Mann Well it was only an idea :) My thought was directed more at the fact that PS can

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
USD, when it was going for around $500. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sure is nice On Dec 9, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Yet us folks without those connections should pay $600 without a complaint? No body

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/10/2005 9:32:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's an easy way to buy Microsoft Office at a very good price. Microsoft offers special student pricing. Just sign up for a course at your local community college.. I bought my first Photoshop

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
. Of couse I took advantage of these deals as I could. Sure is nice ... yes, it is, when it's possible. I was using Photoshop prior to v6 free of charge through evaluation copies given to me by the folks at Adobe, to provide professional feedback for continued development of the application. My

RE: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread Bob W
://www.microsoft.com/uk/partner/licensing_and_compliance/sa/hup/ -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Collin R Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 December 2005 02:43 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: Sure is nice I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 12/8/2005 10:12:21 PM Subject: Re: OT: Sure is nice Hi! I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Now a RAW to TIFF or JPG conversion is 10 seconds. It was 5 min. on the 330MHz PIII system. That's

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Hard disk speed and layout is responsible for a good part of how long it takes to make a conversion. A separate, dedicated HD for the PS scratch disk is highly recommended. My program files are on a separate partition, as is the Windows Paging File, and the working files are on another

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That may be too much for your system. It doesn't leave much for the operating system, services that are running in the background, and for some tools, brushes, and filters in PS which rely on using memory outside of that which Photoshop uses. Try dropping the PS memory allocation to 60% and see

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread David Mann
On Dec 9, 2005, at 9:58 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hard disk speed and layout is responsible for a good part of how long it takes to make a conversion. A separate, dedicated HD for the PS scratch disk is highly recommended. A big RAM disk would do the trick. Make it big enough and it

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Should have added: HD is a new Maxtor 100G SATA drive. (They're available locally for $100 with a $70 mail-in rebate, make them a mere $30. So, who wants me to pick up stuff for 'em) Collin

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Damn, they've lowered the price, it used to be much more expensive... Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Now a RAW to TIFF or JPG conversion is 10 seconds. It was 5 min. on the 330MHz PIII system. That's a 30:1

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
David Mann wrote: A big RAM disk would do the trick. Make it big enough and it could hold both PS scratch and the system swap space. I'd be interested to try that on a fully-loaded quad G5 machine. They'll take 16Gb if your pockets are deep enough... PS can only use a few Gb, and the

RE: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Same here. I paid $50 USD for Office 2003 Pro from Microsoft, last month. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sure is nice People who work for a company with a Microsoft volume license can get a lot of the software for practically nothing. I

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread graywolf
-Original Message- From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sure is nice People who work for a company with a Microsoft volume license can get a lot of the software for practically nothing. I recently ordered Office 2003 Professional for the cost of handling pp (£17.30). Even though I

RE: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread Bob W
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Sure is nice Yet us folks without those connections should pay $600 without a complaint?

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
to me as a way to make my home computer compatible with what I have @ work. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sure is nice Yet us folks without those connections should pay $600 without a complaint? graywolf http

OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Now a RAW to TIFF or JPG conversion is 10 seconds. It was 5 min. on the 330MHz PIII system. That's a 30:1 improvement. Oh, and the best bargain on OS is this ... (good for developers) Sign up as a Microsoft

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Collin R Brendemuehl Subject: OT: Sure is nice I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Please keep me posted on how well XP x64 runs for you. I will probably be upgrading to a dual core 64 bit processor at some

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Dec 2005 at 21:43, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Now a RAW to TIFF or JPG conversion is 10 seconds. It was 5 min. on the 330MHz PIII system. That's a 30:1 improvement. Which software are you using for RAW

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Adam Maas
Rob Studdert wrote: On 8 Dec 2005 at 21:43, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Now a RAW to TIFF or JPG conversion is 10 seconds. It was 5 min. on the 330MHz PIII system. That's a 30:1 improvement. Which

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
I'm just using the Pentax software for RAW processing. And the Sempron is the low end of the x64 chips. $135US it cost me. And though clocking @ 3GHz, it really performs like a 2.0 or a little faster. But for the money savings, and that it's faster than what I have at work, there's no complaints

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Adam Maas
The Pentax software is probably the reason for the slow speed (your Sempron should be appreciably faster than my Duron, which is a several generations older bottom-end CPU). Might I suggest RawShooter Essentials? It's significantly better than the poor Pentax Software. -Adam Collin R

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: OT: Sure is nice Why I ask is that RAW 48bit TIFF 1:1 should take under 4 seconds using ACR on a 3GHz P4 Is that on a dedicated box? William Robb

RE: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Tom C
Thanks... I didn't know it was so cheap now! Tom C. From: Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: Sure is nice Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:43:08 -0500 I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64

Re: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Tom C
Please keep me posted on how well XP x64 runs for you. I will probably be upgrading to a dual core 64 bit processor at some point and would want to install a 64 bit OS, but I'd like a bit of feedback on how stable this stuff is. Thanks William Robb You can be guaranteed it'llbe just as

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Dec 2005 at 22:51, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: I'm just using the Pentax software for RAW processing. And the Sempron is the low end of the x64 chips. $135US it cost me. And though clocking @ 3GHz, it really performs like a 2.0 or a little faster. But for the money savings, and that

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Dec 2005 at 21:59, William Robb wrote: Is that on a dedicated box? Just the audio/graphics WS I built myself April 2004, P4 3G/2GB W2K. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax

Re: OT: Sure is nice

2005-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Now a RAW to TIFF or JPG conversion is 10 seconds. It was 5 min. on the 330MHz PIII system. That's a 30:1 improvement. Which software are you using for RAW conversion? Why I ask is that RAW 48bit TIFF 1:1