Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-08 Thread steve harley
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Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-07 Thread J C OConnell
with aps you are working with smaller format, thus making the lenses more critical. true you are dealing with the sweet spot of FF lenses but not all FF lenses have noticable corner problems. On 2/6/2015 8:05 PM, Darren Addy wrote: and a lot of the people will find out that FF puts less demand

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 7 Feb 2015, at 14:51, P.J. Alling wrote: > >> On 2/7/2015 4:50 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >>> On 6 Feb 2015, at 23:54, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> > On February 6, 2015 1:07:28 PM PST, John wrote: > On 2/6/2015 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > Stretch prediction: Once people sta

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-07 Thread P.J. Alling
On 2/7/2015 4:50 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 6 Feb 2015, at 23:54, Larry Colen wrote: On February 6, 2015 1:07:28 PM PST, John wrote: On 2/6/2015 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Stretch prediction: Once people start noticing Pentax, and realize that the glass from all the old K1000s sitting i

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 6 Feb 2015, at 23:54, Larry Colen wrote: > > > >> On February 6, 2015 1:07:28 PM PST, John wrote: >>> On 2/6/2015 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> Stretch prediction: Once people start noticing Pentax, and realize >> that >>> the glass from all the old K1000s sitting in people's closet

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-07 Thread Boris Liberman
That's been my point all along. I keep K-5 for backup/AF/flash photography. This is where mix match of cameras and lenses with or without adapters won't work. When my K-5 bites the dust (given that I have less than 20,000 frames on it, it may take time), I would probably buy a full frame body a

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Darren Addy
>>and a lot of the people will find out that FF puts less demand on the optical >>quality >>of the lenses compared to aps for the same results, therefore better results >>for >>lenses of same quality. This is the opposite of what I have seen and read. The APS-C takes only the central portion of

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Larry Colen
On February 6, 2015 1:07:28 PM PST, John wrote: >On 2/6/2015 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> Stretch prediction: Once people start noticing Pentax, and realize >that >> the glass from all the old K1000s sitting in people's closets work on >it, >> Pentax will become the darling of the hipsters

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Larry Colen
Yes, they divorced but bigger sensor means a bigger light box, focusing screen etc. More spatial resolution work with. On February 6, 2015 2:12:04 PM PST, Rob Studdert wrote: >Greater DR than the K5 I would be very pleased with. Larry the imaging >sensor is divorced from the AF and metering sen

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Rob Studdert
Greater DR than the K5 I would be very pleased with. Larry the imaging sensor is divorced from the AF and metering sensors in a tradition DSLR, On 7 February 2015 at 08:07, John wrote: > On 2/6/2015 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> Stretch prediction: Once people start noticing Pentax, and reali

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread John
On 2/6/2015 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Stretch prediction: Once people start noticing Pentax, and realize that the glass from all the old K1000s sitting in people's closets work on it, Pentax will become the darling of the hipsters who want to be cool by using retro gear but are tired of payin

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread John
Old glass will have to suffice until new glass becomes available/affordable. On 2/6/2015 2:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Oops, I forgot to mention. I think that a lot of people who have been waiting for the 24x36 sensor to use their old glass will find when they start pixel peeping that the new le

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Ken Waller
Which proves that the more you give people, the less happy they are. MARK ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs? On 06/02/2015 10:32 AM, Bruce Walker wr

RE: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread mail1
consumer. Jonathan Ayers -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 11:53 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs? My guess is that it will be around 36MP, and will have

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread J C OConnell
and a lot of the people will find out that FF puts less demand on the optical quality of the lenses complared to aps for the same results, therefore better results for lenses of same quality. e.g. if you keep the Mpixels and optical quality of the lenses constant, the system resolution incre

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread J C OConnell
if you prefer evf, why stick with dslr? mirrorless is better for that. I much prefer optical vf. jco On 2/6/2015 2:46 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: You see, with K10D it worked. With K-7 it was a whole saga. With K-5 I had to buy a special camera where someone already installed and _properly shimme

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Larry Colen
Oops, I forgot to mention. I think that a lot of people who have been waiting for the 24x36 sensor to use their old glass will find when they start pixel peeping that the new lenses handily outperform the old lenses. I think that the people who just look at the final image, however, will be ecsta

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Larry Colen
My guess is that it will be around 36MP, and will have better per pixel performance than the K-5. I expect that it will have all of the cool new features that are on the K-3, K-S1 (except for gratuitous blinkenlights) etc. Other than the improved sensor, I don't expect a lot of additional features

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Boris Liberman
You see, with K10D it worked. With K-7 it was a whole saga. With K-5 I had to buy a special camera where someone already installed and _properly shimmed_ the special focusing screen. Nowadays, I prefer EVF and its focusing aids. My hit rate is higher and the strain on my eyes is less. On 2/6/

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
#1 The sensor will match some Nikon model. That seems all too obvious. #2 The software will not have all the features of the competition. #3 Pentax will introduce some software gizmo to make the camera unique and desirable. Dear Pentax, Personally, I would still like to see a decent Wi-Fi solutio

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread J C OConnell
I have no problem shooting with the k50/1.2, I dont use f1.2, I stop down a little. Plus, I changed to a split image RF focus screen that work excellent for MF lenses. On 2/6/2015 2:02 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Right. I've got Pentax-K-to-Leica-M adapter of highest quality and A 50/1.2 that I

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Right. I've got Pentax-K-to-Leica-M adapter of highest quality and A 50/1.2 that I occasionally use this way. However, I don't expect new camera to be very good at precision manual focusing for 50/1.2 lenses. Pentax will want you to buy new glass... Boris On 2/6/2015 20:53, J C OConnell wrote

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread J C OConnell
Ive got a K50/1.2 I can slap on there jco On 2/5/2015 11:09 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: I'll just wait and see... However I doubt that this will have any practical interest for me anyway... My K-5 and Sigma 17-70 are more than enough. As well, Ricoh GXR-M and Nokton 40/1.4 is a tough combo t

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread P.J. Alling
Canon makes their own sensors, and I have no doubt that they are capable of building a 46mp sensor, so I wouldn't bet the farm it isn't home grown, also just packing 46mp in 2/3 the real estate of the most common medium format sensor will lead to degraded performance. Physics is a bitch and mu

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Darren Addy
I'm not an expert on Canon, but if they are going to 46MP it will be a Sony sensor in the camera (not a Canon sensor). I think Canon has been stuck realizing that they were at the end of the line as far as competing successfully with their own sensors. So it is probably where a Pentax FF will be g

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread P.J. Alling
Canon may think that they're challenging medium format, but not all pixels are created equal. On 2/6/2015 2:23 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Darren Addy wrote: Here is my guess: 36 MP Sony sensor, as found in the Sony A7r and Nikon D810 httDp://www.sonyalpharumors.com/competition-news-nikon-d81

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
People are never satisfied. G > On Feb 6, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > More DR would be sweet. This is what I'm already hearing complaints > about in the Canon camp over the new 5Ds beasties: no apparent DR > improvement over the 5D Mk III despite near medium format performance >

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Bill
On 06/02/2015 10:32 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: More DR would be sweet. This is what I'm already hearing complaints about in the Canon camp over the new 5Ds beasties: no apparent DR improvement over the 5D Mk III despite near medium format performance otherwise. Which proves that the more you give

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker
More DR would be sweet. This is what I'm already hearing complaints about in the Canon camp over the new 5Ds beasties: no apparent DR improvement over the 5D Mk III despite near medium format performance otherwise. On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: > The D810 has a pretty nice

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Rob Studdert
The D810 has a pretty nice sensor, if Pentax do as they often do and can wring a bit more out of it than the other makers it should be a nice camera, sensitivity, noise and DR wise. On 6 February 2015 at 23:21, John wrote: > On 2/6/2015 4:02 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: >> >> Brian Walters wrote: >

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread John
On 2/6/2015 4:02 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Malcolm Smith : I've just had an e-mail in from a dealer telling me about the new Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R, which both feature 50.6 MP sensors. At this rate, the DSLR will be taking on the medium format market as well.

RE: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Malcolm Smith
Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting Malcolm Smith : > > > I've just had an e-mail in from a dealer telling me about the new > > Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R, which both feature 50.6 MP sensors. > > > > At this rate, the DSLR will be taking on the medium format market as > well. > > > > The thought of buyi

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-06 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Malcolm Smith : I've just had an e-mail in from a dealer telling me about the new Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R, which both feature 50.6 MP sensors. At this rate, the DSLR will be taking on the medium format market as well. The thought of buying a new body and lenses is bad enough, but wit

RE: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Darren Addy wrote: > Here is my guess: > > 36 MP Sony sensor, as found in the Sony A7r and Nikon D810 > httDp://www.sonyalpharumors.com/competition-news-nikon-d810-features- > sony-36mp-sensor/ > > dxomark comparison of those two camera's sensors with the existing > Pentax flagship K-3: > http:

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Agree. Guessing other specs is useless game. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Bill Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 7:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs? On 05/02/2015 7:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I'm thinking it'

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-05 Thread Bill
On 05/02/2015 7:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I'm thinking it's gonna be black. I'm thinking I'm going to own one. Hopefully it won't be a wet turd with a lens mount. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-05 Thread Christine Nielsen
I'm thinking the long-suffering Pentaxians are going to exhaust themselves with all the flapping long before this camera ever gets here. Pace yourselves, people. Y'all are gonna be too pooped to pop. ;) -c Ps: just black? On Feb 5, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I'm thinking it'

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-05 Thread Boris Liberman
I'll just wait and see... However I doubt that this will have any practical interest for me anyway... My K-5 and Sigma 17-70 are more than enough. As well, Ricoh GXR-M and Nokton 40/1.4 is a tough combo to beat in terms of portability without giving up any image quality. Oh, here is my take

Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
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Re: Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-05 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > Curious to see if it is compatible with the O-GPS1. Since the 645Z is compatible with the O-GPS1 for geotagging, I would expect the same to be true of the FF camera. As far as Astrotracer functionality, I would hope and expect that as long as

Your guess on the Pentax Full Frame specs?

2015-02-05 Thread Darren Addy
Here is my guess: 36 MP Sony sensor, as found in the Sony A7r and Nikon D810 httDp://www.sonyalpharumors.com/competition-news-nikon-d810-features-sony-36mp-sensor/ dxomark comparison of those two camera's sensors with the existing Pentax flagship K-3: http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-b