When shooting JPEG, but also with RAW to get a good starting point for
conversion and a good preview shot.
-Adam
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I've never seen the need for that with any of the photography I do. Under
what circumstances would it be good to have a preview of the WB adjustment?
When
Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
David J Brooks wrote:
I tend to use this combo, which until now was only available on the
higher end models like the Nikon D2 series and the Canon mkI and II's.
Not sure about the Canons, they might have it on other models, sorry
if i'm wrong.
Just
On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
It's kind of a bummer about the bats I'm used to 1400 or so
shots from
the AA Lith-Ion disposables I use now. Dropping to half, or less than
half, will take some adjusting.
If it is at least as efficient as my Canon 10D is, it will
Saw that, yes.
The Olympus C8080WZ had that feature too. Although I tried it, I
never actually used it ... it's too difficult to estimate things on
the little LCD screen and not reliable to a calibrated screen.
Godfrey
On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Kwan wrote:
And now, you can
Mostly for JPEG capture, but it's handy if you're being critical with
RAW capture and notice that one channel is close to being saturated.
Godfrey
On Sep 13, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I've never seen the need for that with any of the photography I
do. Under
what
On 9/13/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use it when i think i'lll never return to an area for pictures or
indoors using flash or low light. It gives me instant access to
viewing and the latitude of Raw for adjustments.
I remember reading an article a little while back about the
Your macro shots of insects are terrific. I have the Pentax ist DS and I'm
trying to get this quality of shot. Could you please tell me what lens your
using? I have the Sigma 105mm macro and the 70-300 macro telephoto but I
can't get this kind of close up.
Thanks
Mike
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Thanks I'm way outta the loop on this sort of stuff
Pretty much everyone except a certain type of hardcore computer geek,
and some wannabees, is way outta the Slashdot Loop. :-)
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On Sep 13, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Look at this official pentax page, http://www.pentaxslr.com/bodies/
k10
and you'll find these words: Power zoom function not available
Now scroll down to the bottom of the same page and download the
official PDF promotional document
Thanks very much mate. I have a Sigma 50 mm f2.8 manual focus macro. It is
a 1:1 magnification lens. I also have a set of extension tubes for the
really close up shots, however with those I have lighting problems as the
lens shades the flash (hotshoe mounted Sigma). I'd love to get an off
On 9/13/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amusing but, honestly, I have never found power zoom and all that
business to be of any use at all. I've had several fixed-lens cameras
that had it and it was always in my way, I turned off all tracking
and wish I'd been able to turn off
.. or so says Pentax Imaging.
http://tinyurl.com/gulfl
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No. It's the 14th here and in Japan.
:-)
Dave
At 02:39 AM 14/09/2006, Jan van Wijk wrote:
Seems they are a bit early:
http://www.pentax.ca/digital/digital_slr/k10d/
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Thanks, Lawrence. Dinner was ready about the time I got to this point
and my wife was calling. ;-))
I see a mirror up setting, but only as a part of the sensor cleaning
process. I was looking for shutter delay (2 sec.) pre-lock.(?)
Did I miss that too?
Jack
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In a rather dark corner of a restaurant. DA 12/24, f6.7 @ 1 second,
ISO 400. Camera resting on the table.
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The slower than advertised continuous shutter speed is not a deal
breaker for me either. Only a remote possibility it would ever be
needed.
I feel a rush over owning this unit, but it'll be a few
weeks...probably. I just want to calm down a bit. ;)
Hope your plans go well.
Jack
--- Godfrey
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
.. or so says Pentax Imaging.
http://tinyurl.com/gulfl
Shel
And if you click on Specifications, it goes to 1600.
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I would appreciate a full 3fps, but 2.5 from the D50 has done fine for
me until now.
-Adam
Jack Davis wrote:
The slower than advertised continuous shutter speed is not a deal
breaker for me either. Only a remote possibility it would ever be
needed.
I feel a rush over owning this unit, but
On Sep 13, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
... But you gotta admit that
there's nothing (well, very few things) cooler than engaging the power
zoom, racking the lens all the way out, focusing on something close,
and then shutting the camera off just to watch the lens retract. ...
On 14/09/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, I'm not going to complain about a $40 card, but will about a $15
reader...
Well if your portable mass storage unit only cost you $15 more power to you.
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For those who tried to get it at BH and were not able:
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I spoke to BH. They have not yet received any stock and don't expect
any until mid October. They took a very few orders by mistake but
will honor those when they get their stock. They are now taking
requests for notification when the camera is in stock.
{ai;
On Sep 13, 2006, at 6:21 PM,
I have two questions about lenses
1) On Monday night at the local photo club meeting there had been a box of
goodies someone donated to the club (we do not know who) besides chemicals
and 5 67 mm polaorizing filters and 5 flashes there was also a 28 mm 2.8
Sigma H.L. Wide lens in Pentax mount and
On Sep 13, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 14/09/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, I'm not going to complain about a $40 card, but will about a $15
reader...
Well if your portable mass storage unit only cost you $15 more
power to you.
A card reader is not a
On 14/09/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never seen the need for that with any of the photography I do. Under
what circumstances would it be good to have a preview of the WB adjustment?
When shooting JPEG?
Seems like absolute overkill to me. I manage perfectly with the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
.. or so says Pentax Imaging.
http://tinyurl.com/gulfl
Shel
And if you click on Specifications, it goes to 1600.
And if you read at the bottom, it says Specifications are subject to
change. LOL.
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I hate to tell you this Paul, but your daughter is blurry. Was she born like
that? Have you consulted a doctor about it? :)
Very difficult shot to get at the best of times, and I know how hard it is
for kids to stay still for a full second!
James
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From: Paul
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Sep 13, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 14/09/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, I'm not going to complain about a $40 card, but will about a $15
reader...
Well if your portable mass storage unit only cost you $15 more
power to you.
For me, the high ISO settings are irrelevant. I don't even like using 400
on my DL as the noise is unacceptable to me. Anything higher and the noise
is so bad i can't see myself using shots taken at high ISOs for anything
more than snapshots.
One thing I don't like about my DL is the fact
I don't know about the DL but I find on the D ISO 1600 3200 are very
usable. Especially with the judicious use of noise reduction software in PP.
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_1.htm
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Noise%20Test/Misc_008.htm
Sometimes it's the difference between
On Sep 13, 2006, at 7:56 PM, Tom C wrote:
Now, if they can just avoid downgrading it more than twice and
concentrate
on being forward looking...
Tom C.
Huh? There are already two other lower-spec K models. I would
expect that any additional K10 models will be distinct upgrades. The
Adam Maas wrote:
No, you're changing the conversion curve and levels. ISO is normally set
at the ADC stage.
No, it's set by the amplifier(s) before the A/D.
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I could not find a socket anywhere on the physical views of the K10D on
Dpreview, including the side pocket area where the power connections,
usb, etc go. Anyone?
I guess one can always put an adaptor on top of the shoe. I do that
with PS that have flash sockets.
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Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Sep 13, 2006, at 7:56 PM, Tom C wrote:
Now, if they can just avoid downgrading it more than twice and
concentrate
on being forward looking...
Tom C.
Huh? There are already two other lower-spec K models. I would
expect that any additional K10 models will be
That's what I thought.
Which leads to the point I was obtusely trying to make. One uses CF, the
other uses SD there is very little physical difference between them.
So when people argue that SD cards make for a smaller camera, I can't help
thinking that it's not that big a factor.
Cheers,
Thanks for looking. It's called motion blur,s. And it's just
something different. With a one second shutter speed, it's obviously
intentional. Were you born not knowing the difference:-).
Pai;
On Sep 13, 2006, at 9:49 PM, J and K Messervy wrote:
I hate to tell you this Paul, but your
Maybe I'm being dense, but can someone explain to me what's the difference
between the simultaneous RAW+Jpeg recording and just extracting the full
sized jpeg from the RAW file?
I've been doing this for a couple of years now. I use the jpeg for
reviewing, quick dirty edits for emailing to
But November 20 availability. Sigh.
On Sep 13, 2006, at 9:45 PM, Gonz wrote:
For those who tried to get it at BH and were not able:
http://tinyurl.com/jg7aj
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For fun, I added it to my cart and got a much earlier delivery date.
-R
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:
But November 20 availability. Sigh.
On Sep 13, 2006, at 9:45 PM, Gonz wrote:
For those who tried to get it at BH and were not able:
http://tinyurl.com/jg7aj
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Read somewhere on Dpreview:
Perhaps this may cheer you up a little - here's part of my pre-order
confirmation of the K10D with Amazon.com:
Shipping estimate for these items: October 12, 2006 - October 26, 2006
Delivery estimate: October 16, 2006 - October 31, 2006
Cheers,
Marc
So
It's definitely a horses for courses thing. I like film grain, but really
dislike digital noise.
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From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...
Totally agree..on both counts. Due to my shooting habits, I haven't
shot with anything faster than ISO 100 in many years.
Jack
--- J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me, the high ISO settings are irrelevant. I don't even like
using 400
on my DL as the noise is unacceptable to
There were some comments about how noisy ISO 3200 is with the Pentax DSLR's.
Here's a large section from a photo I took last month @ Godders' reception.
It shows Marnie looking at her Optio. I made no adjustments to the image
other than to correct the white balance. The image is just how it
While I generally agree, I found the Pentax DSLR's to produce very
film-like results at high ISO's. The Canon and Nikon's are more
objectionable (Although my D50 is extremely clean at 800).
-Adam
J and K Messervy wrote:
It's definitely a horses for courses thing. I like film grain, but
David Savage wrote:
Maybe I'm being dense, but can someone explain to me what's the difference
between the simultaneous RAW+Jpeg recording and just extracting the full
sized jpeg from the RAW file?
I've been doing this for a couple of years now. I use the jpeg for
reviewing, quick dirty
Whoops! Forgot the URL
There were some comments about how noisy ISO 3200 is with the Pentax
DSLR's. Here's a large section from a photo I took last month @ Godders'
reception. It shows Marnie looking at her Optio. I made no adjustments to
the image other than to correct the white balance. The
You forgot the link Shel.
Dave
At 11:14 AM 14/09/2006, you wrote:
There were some comments about how noisy ISO 3200 is with the Pentax DSLR's.
Here's a large section from a photo I took last month @ Godders' reception.
It shows Marnie looking at her Optio. I made no adjustments to the image
Lol. I know, I quite like the shot, the natural light is so much nicer than
flash.
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: PESO- Grace Does Lunch
Thanks for
Considering it's ISO 3200, the noise is good. That is speaking in relative
terms. I just find to my eyes, shots at such high ISO aren't satisfying,
hence I just don't use those settings.
It's just personal preference.
James
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL
thanks to each and everyone who has responded in this thread.
another query. seeing the dpreview preview of the k10d, which says,
The K10D has a KAF2 bayonet lens mount which can take lenses with a
KAF2, KAF or KA mount lenses, it also provides an option to use the
lens aperture ring, would the K
Very cool. It looks like its floating in space. Almost looks like some
type of alien or eyeball. Nice colors.
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Carrying on with the flower pics. I nearly chose another pic, but I
liked the 3D effect in this one. I thought about cropping a bit off
the left
Fair enough...except some films are designed
specifically to pushed around wink.
What about in digital? Won't an increase in the ISO
later on still degrade the image (more noise)?
-Brendan
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Push/pull processing is extremely limited. With most
film,
Hi -- Refreshing to discuss manual-focus film gear in the midst of all this
tumult about the new dSLRs. :-) And here I am responding despite not having
definitive answers... I have a 300mm for 6x7 and a K-mount adaptor, but have
not yet tried these on a 35mm Pentax. I suspect the 300mm for 645
They released the initial two downgrades first...
Tom C wrote:
Now, if they can just avoid downgrading it more than twice and concentrate
on being forward looking...
Tom C.
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If you needed a quick print, far from home, no laptop, and you had only
a pesky photo kiosk available...
Christian wrote:
Lawrence Kwan wrote:
And now, you can generate the JPEG in-camera post exposure with K10D:
It wouldn't be the first time Pentax has been undecided about a feature
and it found it's way into a brochure.
Mark Roberts wrote:
Now this is interesting...
Look at this official pentax page, http://www.pentaxslr.com/bodies/k10
and you'll find these words: Power zoom function not available
At 11:53 AM 14/09/2006, Subash Jeyan wrote:
thanks to each and everyone who has responded in this thread.
another query. seeing the dpreview preview of the k10d, which says,
The K10D has a KAF2 bayonet lens mount which can take lenses with a
KAF2, KAF or KA mount lenses, it also provides an
You don't have to be well heeled. Memory has followed the expected
course. It's become relatively inexpensive.
Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 14/09/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mean the vast majority of Pentax users who have SD based cameras? D
owners are a distinct
thanks davedidn't some of the other cameras use the ae-l button
for the same purpose?
regards, subash
On 9/14/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
another query. seeing the dpreview preview of the k10d, which says,
The K10D has a KAF2 bayonet lens mount which can take lenses with a
Sensitivity equivalent...
Since they claim and extra stop in SR over the K100D maybe that's where
the extra stop is coming from. I didn't see it in the preview of the
Custom Menu on the dpreview site.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
.. or so says Pentax Imaging.
http://tinyurl.com/gulfl
Shel
Marnie's looking a bit pale...
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
There were some comments about how noisy ISO 3200 is with the Pentax DSLR's.
Here's a large section from a photo I took last month @ Godders' reception.
It shows Marnie looking at her Optio. I made no adjustments to the image
other than to
The took the spot that was on the D for the raw button...
Gonz wrote:
I could not find a socket anywhere on the physical views of the K10D on
Dpreview, including the side pocket area where the power connections,
usb, etc go. Anyone?
I guess one can always put an adaptor on top of the shoe.
At 12:31 PM 14/09/2006, Subash Jeyan wrote:
thanks davedidn't some of the other cameras use the ae-l button
for the same purpose?
regards, subash
Yes the did. But I have the *istD, so that's how I think of it ;-)
Dave
On 9/14/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but you have
Actually, this is perfect for a friend of mine. She's going to be
travelling, wants to document her travels with good quality RAW images, but
also wants to give out snaps to some of the people she photographs. We
found a couple of portable printers for her - and now she can shoot RAW and
JPEG
David Savage wrote:
So when people argue that SD cards make for a smaller camera, I can't help
thinking that it's not that big a factor.
Maybe I'm stupid, but it seems to me that the pentamirror/pentaprism
takes up _a_ _lot_ more room than an SD or CF card interface.
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Many of us use our K lenses with the DSLR bodies. The K10D will work in
just the same manner with K lenses - IOW, it's just fine.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Subash Jeyan
another query. seeing the dpreview preview of the k10d, which says,
The K10D has a KAF2 bayonet lens mount which
Doesn't look like you can shoot DNG + JPEG though ... or did I miss that?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Adam Maas
Maybe I'm being dense, but can someone explain to me what's the
difference
between the simultaneous RAW+Jpeg recording and just extracting the
full
sized jpeg from the
Most complaints about excessive noise at reasonable ISO settings are,
in my experience, almost always due to underexposure.
Digital exposure evaluation should be predicated on getting as much
exposure as possible without saturating the pixels where you want
detail in the highlights, and
The *ist D is officially for sale...
CW
Oh yours as well? They'll get difficult to sell IMO ^^
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I think you can. Just select RAW-DNG, then set RAW+JPG. I don't see
any reason that combination wouldn't work.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Doesn't look like you can shoot DNG + JPEG though ... or did I miss that?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Adam Maas
Maybe I'm being dense,
On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:14 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:
So when people argue that SD cards make for a smaller camera, I
can't help
thinking that it's not that big a factor.
Maybe I'm stupid, but it seems to me that the pentamirror/pentaprism
takes up _a_ _lot_ more room than an SD or CF card
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