Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:52:43PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: That's essentially my point. Apart from some specialty lenses that remained available until very recently (And may still be from distributors with stock), K/M lenses have been obsolete for 15 years. 15 years? I bought my Super

Re: OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-13 Thread John Coyle
To check out what is running, use CtrlAltDelete - this will not reboot an XP machine, but will display the Task Manager. The first tab shows running applications, the second tab shows running processes - you will be surprised how many there are! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original

Re: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide

2006-10-13 Thread Inet Shopper
There are only a few adapters for Canon FD series lenses and none give full functionality. Yes, adapters exist, but stop-down metering is not convenient. Plus, there is either teleconversion and light loss, or loss of infinity focus. So I will buy some lenses for the DSLR. Go for the FA35/2

Re: Well, that's it, I cracked.

2006-10-13 Thread DagT
Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 12, 2006, at 12:56 PM, DagT wrote: Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/10/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I like the 21mm and want the 70mm, but the 40mm is too small. If I buy anything in that range I'll

RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-13 Thread DagT
That's great, so now you are saying that those who are not collectors or owners of very old equipment should not have the right to wote over the future K-mount. There's some something strange about this logic. DagT Fra: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: K1D aperature simulator

Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since

Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)

2006-10-13 Thread DagT
Great idea! I want full compatibility with my dad's old screwmount lenses. One of them is an SMC135mm 2.5, so I guess at least one of them is good enough to give me the right to wote. DagT Fra: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I regret having added my name to this silly thread. While I

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread DagT
Can anyone here translate this? According to some on drpeview the reason is that they have too many preorders outside Japan, and that these orders have priority. DagT Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30:

Re: Well, that's it, I cracked.

2006-10-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/10/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I don't need any new lenses or a new camera. I should just go out and take som new pictures... How can you make new pictures without a new camera? :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL

Re: Open letter to Marnie Eactivist

2006-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Christian wrote: Or at least MAC vs Windows. :-) You prefer to use automotive hand tools to an operating system? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/10/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone here translate this? According to some on drpeview the reason is that they have too many preorders outside Japan, and that these orders have priority. The post that you are referring to was nothing more than wishful thinking on the part

Re: Well, that's it, I cracked.

2006-10-13 Thread DagT
Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13/10/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I don't need any new lenses or a new camera. I should just go out and take som new pictures... How can you make new pictures without a new camera? :-) Great! I'll try that argument on

RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-13 Thread Bob W
Anybody who would like to comment further on this matter must apply in writing to JCO stating why you think you're qualified to do so. JCO, this includes you. JCO will vet your applications and post a list on his own website of people who are allowed to comment. I will monitor JCO's list from

PESO: Blue Angels (or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love DNG Recover Edges)

2006-10-13 Thread John Celio
http://www.neovenator.com/special/blueangelscrossover.html John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)

2006-10-13 Thread Bob W
No good to me, but I do think they should have full compatibility with my Contax/Zeiss lenses. I'm really pissed off at Pentax for not supporting me in this. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: 13 October 2006

Re: Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread mike wilson
On 13/10/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess would be that we'll begin to see new lenses that communicate far more information over the digital signal pin (such as, say, the actual aperture the lens is set to; far more accurate than relying on the position of a

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-13 Thread Lon Williamson
I don't think the number of k/m lenses should limit the survey; I do suspect it influences a person's vote, like it did for JCO on on end of the spectrum and Godfrey on the other. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Why three? Why not one, or two? Define good? Are you now being elitist? Which K/M lenses

Re: Well, that's it, I cracked.

2006-10-13 Thread mike wilson
From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, I don't need any new lenses or a new camera. I should just go out and take some new pictures... Mark! (should go in the traditional section, I think) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html I've just cranked it through Altavista's translation site and there is something along the lines that they're postponing

Re: K1D aperture simulator, ad nauseam

2006-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of strength and fury, signifying nothing. G On Oct 13, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Bob W wrote: Anybody who would like to comment further on this matter must apply in writing to JCO stating why you think you're qualified to do so. JCO, this includes you. JCO

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread DagT
Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13/10/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone here translate this? According to some on drpeview the reason is that they have too many preorders outside Japan, and that these orders have priority. The post that you are referring

Re: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide

2006-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 13, 2006, at 8:26 AM, Inet Shopper wrote: Go for the FA35/2 AL or FA28/2.8 AL. Both are very good lenses and not too terribly expensive. They're not f/1.4, but the Pentax DSLRs are quite clean in rendering up to ISO 800 and even 1600 in a pinch ... much better than film. The thing

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have my order in. When it arrives, I'm happy. I'm happy in the meantime anyway as I have good lenses and the DS to work with. Patience... A pre-order does not guarantee fast delivery, only a priority on when the product actually arrives. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

istDS and K100D (pentaprism and pentamirror)

2006-10-13 Thread Gasha
Hi all, I feel that i can now afford a DSLR. Mostly for snapshots together with P645. So one option is to get used istDS for a good price (someone will upgrade to K100D/K10D). I will get penta-prism viewfinder. Second option is K100D. Price for new body is acceptable. I will get warranty and

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That explains a lot of your posts LOL Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb Tell me, Bill. How do you always manage to say what the rest of us are thinking? Tourette Syndrome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Well, that's it, I cracked.

2006-10-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Oh - I thought he said newd pictures. Never mind BTW, can you make old pictures? Shel [Original Message] From: Digital Image Studio DagT wrote: Actually, I don't need any new lenses or a new camera. I should just go out and take som new pictures... How can you make new

Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)

2006-10-13 Thread David Mann
On Oct 13, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Why don't we ask for the old SMC screwmount ones too! Don't forget M37 Asahiflex lenses! - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread J and K Messervy
I'm skimming all of these posts and still have no idea what the hell an aperture simulator is. I guess it can't be too important if I never knew I needed it. - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October

Re: Well, that's it, I cracked.

2006-10-13 Thread keith_w
DagT wrote: Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 12, 2006, at 12:56 PM, DagT wrote: Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/10/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I like the 21mm and want the 70mm, but the 40mm is too small. [...] At least, that's what

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Rob, I agree with you, but JCO is being very rude by hurling insults and shouting, and, imo, being overly repetitious, never mind that he sometimes doesn't answer direct questions and is not really engaging in dialogue so much as diatribe. Shel [Original Message] From: Digital Image

Re: PESO: Blue Angels (or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love DNG Recover Edges)

2006-10-13 Thread David Mann
On Oct 13, 2006, at 9:11 PM, John Celio wrote: http://www.neovenator.com/special/blueangelscrossover.html Great save! Of course, with film you'd have had a bigger frame to start with ;)) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Open letter to Marnie Eactivist

2006-10-13 Thread David Mann
On Oct 13, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You prefer to use automotive hand tools to an operating system? I saw a program on TV last night showing some guys building a chopper (motorbike, not helicopter) out of tools as a promotional piece for a tool manufacturer. It was looking

RE: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Interesting. I just heard that the K10D will be available in at least one local store here the first week in November. A friend bought one and was contacted by the store owner yesterday and got the info. I guess we'll still have to wait a bit and see Shel [Original Message] From:

Re: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide

2006-10-13 Thread Carlos Royo
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The 18-55 has some W-shape distortions ... a good lens but not really at its best for architecture. The DA16-45 has a bit of simple barrel distortion, easy to correct. The 20-35 has less and has nicer rendering qualities. Rendering-wise, the DA16-45 is

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread Lon Williamson
It's a thingie visible inside the body's mount that lets you use open aperture metering on any lens with an aperture ring. Almost all film bodies had this feature, and many permited both metered manual and aperture priority shooting modes with such lenses. Absence of this thingie on the DLSRs

Re: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide

2006-10-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've used 'em both. The 16-45 is better, but the 18-55 is still a good lens for the money as you say, and a nice snapshop lens. Well worth the price ... Shel [Original Message] From: Carlos Royo I have found that the distortions shown by the DA 18-55 are easily corrected by using PT

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
At this point, how can anyone take any of this seriously? It's a farce. On Oct 12, 2006, at 11:53 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 13/10/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a joke, Rob. Offered in the same tongue as the JCO posts. You're preaching to the choir. Certainly

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Amazon is still telling me to expect delivery within about two weeks from today. Paul On Oct 13, 2006, at 3:49 AM, DagT wrote: Can anyone here translate this? According to some on drpeview the reason is that they have too many preorders outside Japan, and that these orders have priority.

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/13 Fri AM 10:00:43 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The JCO survey At this point, how can anyone take any of this seriously? It's a farce. My trousers are still up. Whoops! Spoke too soon. On Oct 12,

67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-13 Thread J and K Messervy
What's this lens like? Any good? It's not particularly wide, but I've found one that's affordable. Would I be better off waiting for a 55? Thanks James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well, I can wait another month or two if I have to. On Oct 13, 2006, at 4:34 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html I've

Re: 67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-13 Thread John Celio
What's this lens like? Any good? It's not particularly wide, but I've found one that's affordable. Would I be better off waiting for a 55? If you want wide, then yes, wait for the 55. The 90mm, if I recall correctly, has a leaf shutter in it which allows for high-speed flash sync. The

Re: My Canon BCI 6 Ink Experiment update

2006-10-13 Thread Bob Shell
On Oct 12, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Perry Pellechia wrote: On 10/12/06, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know whether it's down to using Epson's printer and papers or not: I have couple of mono prints on my office wall, unprotected but with no direct sunlight on them which have

Re: PESO - Yosemite Creek

2006-10-13 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Brendan, On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:27:54 -0700 (PDT), Brendan MacRae wrote: The creek at the bottom of Bridalveil Falls. Hmm, if you say so ... There is not enough context to tell, could be any creek :-) Apart from that I like it, a tad to bluish perhaps as already suggested ... Pentax 67II,

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread Bob W
At this point, how can anyone take any of this seriously? It's a farce. My trousers are still up. Whoops! Spoke too soon. don't worry, like all long-running threads it will eventually Feydeau-way into a pun thread... Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/13 Fri AM 10:47:24 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: The JCO survey At this point, how can anyone take any of this seriously? It's a farce. My trousers are still up. Whoops! Spoke too

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-13 Thread Mark Roberts
John Celio wrote: You don't know the difference between shrewd and Unscrupulous. Disabling older products without Cost or technical reasons is just that. There -is- a cost reason for the loss of the simulator. *Lowball* estimated cost of aperture smulator: $5.00/camera Production plans for

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread Bob Shell
On Oct 13, 2006, at 7:28 AM, mike wilson wrote: At this point, how can anyone take any of this seriously? It's a farce. My trousers are still up. Whoops! Spoke too soon. don't worry, like all long-running threads it will eventually Feydeau-way into a pun thread... Wilde

Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)

2006-10-13 Thread Christian
Bob W wrote: No good to me, but I do think they should have full compatibility with my Contax/Zeiss lenses. I'm really pissed off at Pentax for not supporting me in this. They'd gain another DSLR sale if they made the mount compatible with EOS EF and EF-S lenses. :-) -- Christian

Re: Open letter to Marnie Eactivist

2006-10-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Christian wrote: Or at least MAC vs Windows. :-) You prefer to use automotive hand tools to an operating system? OK, how about MAC vs. Craftsman or Snap-On? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote: I'm just wondering what the heck Ingorant means ;-) It's a large black seabird related to the cormorant. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-13 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake! Na. Those poor sods still earn most of their income from _film_. Can you believe it? They probably don't, as of 2006. (And I *know*

Re: OT iMac question

2006-10-13 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have my office machine (a newish MacBook Pro) set up with Parallels since I have to use Windows software to access my email, our server, etc. It all works just fine. You can have Windows full screen, or Minimize, work on OS 10, then click back to

Re: istDS and K100D (pentaprism and pentamirror)

2006-10-13 Thread Adam Maas
Gasha wrote: Hi all, I feel that i can now afford a DSLR. Mostly for snapshots together with P645. So one option is to get used istDS for a good price (someone will upgrade to K100D/K10D). I will get penta-prism viewfinder. Second option is K100D. Price for new body is acceptable. I

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: *Lowball* estimated cost of aperture smulator: $5.00/camera Production plans for K10D: 13000/month Additional cost to Pentax: $65,000.00/month or $780,000.00/year I suppose if we look into the next decade the figure becomes more impressive, esp if you

Re: What would you take?

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I ended up taking the 28-105, But unfortunately I didn't have either the time or the opportunity to take it out of my bag. It was an interesting trip, and I have my memories of the sights. And that's good enought for me. The best part was the flight home.

Re: Well, that's it, I cracked.

2006-10-13 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, I don't need any new lenses or a new camera. I should just go out and take some new pictures... Mark! (should go in the traditional section, I think) Yep: Get out and take some pictures! - Doug Brewer While digging through my

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/13/06 3:35 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html Quick translation; [Pentax have decided the new launch date of K10D be Nov.30 Although we have

Re: My Canon BCI 6 Ink Experiment update

2006-10-13 Thread David J Brooks
Interesting. I tried some Kodak paper back in 2002 and threw it out. It would not print very well, and everything looked like the PS mosaic filter had been applied. Maybe things have changed. Dave Quoting Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave, This fading of prints off the Canon

Re: 67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-13 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's this lens like? Any good? It's not particularly wide, but I've found one that's affordable. Would I be better off waiting for a 55? Hi James, It depends on what you are looking for... The 90mm (the normal one, not the leaf shutter one) is

Re: OT: what I need to do street photography

2006-10-13 Thread Matt Kelch
John Francis wrote: On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 01:34:50PM -0400, Matt Kelch wrote: Gonz wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget about the K10D. Heck, forget even about a Leica M8. This is what I really need: http://red.com/ 12 Megapixels, 60 frames per second. 24x14mm

K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-13 Thread K.Takeshita
This may have already been shown but I noticed in the Japanese site a good visual illustration of the effectiveness of the 22 bit converter. http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/image/k10d_09.gif The left graph is the RAW analogue signal from CCD. Middle is the prevalent 12 bit

Re: 67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J and K Messervy Subject: 67 90mm f2.8 What's this lens like? Any good? It's not particularly wide, but I've found one that's affordable. Would I be better off waiting for a 55? They are two very different focal lengths. There are two versions of the

Re: 67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-13 Thread J and K Messervy
Thanks very much mate. i can get one pretty cheap, but i really want to start with a 45 or 55 so I'll wait. - Original Message - From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: 67 90mm f2.8 J and K Messervy [EMAIL

Re: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide

2006-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
All well and good, and no contradiction to what I said. I wouldn't choose it for doing architecture, however. Between the rendering quality and the need to do rectilinear correction with PTLens, I'd find it a pain. ;-) Godfrey On Oct 13, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I've used

Re: PESO: Blue Angels (or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love DNG Recover Edges)

2006-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 13, 2006, at 10:01 AM, David Mann wrote: On Oct 13, 2006, at 9:11 PM, John Celio wrote: http://www.neovenator.com/special/blueangelscrossover.html Great save! Of course, with film you'd have had a bigger frame to start with ;)) Huh? If the nose was clipped on film, there would be

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J and K Messervy Subject: Re: The JCO survey I'm skimming all of these posts and still have no idea what the hell an aperture simulator is. I guess it can't be too important if I never knew I needed it. HAR!!! William Robb -- PDML

Re: Open letter to Marnie Eactivist

2006-10-13 Thread pnstenquist
No contest. Snap-On is th Mac of hand tools:-) Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Christian wrote: Or at least MAC vs Windows. :-) You prefer to use automotive hand tools

Director Gillo Pontecorvo dies at 86

2006-10-13 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Not entirely off topic (I'll explain why in a couple of lines). Italian director Gillo Pontecorvo died yesterday at 86; one of the less prolific authors of all times (only 5 movies in 50 years...) he is well known for his masterpiece The Battle of Algiers (La battaglia di Algeri, 1966) in which

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
- Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The JCO survey On Oct 13, 2006, at 7:28 AM, mike wilson wrote: At this point, how can anyone take any of this seriously? It's a farce. My trousers are still up. Whoops! Spoke too soon. don't worry,

RE: Well, that's it, I cracked.

2006-10-13 Thread Bob W
And one from 2006: Use? Connection vessel yes it is cheap the equipment spiral shellfish mouth? - Babelfish translation of something from Pentax Japan For all we know that could be a perfectly accurate translation of the original. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread pnstenquist
-- Original message -- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/13 Fri AM 10:47:24 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: The JCO survey At this point, how can anyone take

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
On 10/13/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/13/06 3:35 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html Quick translation; [Pentax have decided

Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-13 Thread Perry Pellechia
That's a little misleading. The 12 bit rendering is only using 4 bits. The signal could certainly be preconditioned to use the digitizer better than that. On 10/13/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may have already been shown but I noticed in the Japanese site a good visual

Director Gillo Pontecorvo dies at 86

2006-10-13 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Not entirely off topic (I'll explain why in a couple of lines). Italian director Gillo Pontecorvo died yesterday at 86; one of the less prolific authors of all times (only 5 movies in 50 years...) he is well known for his masterpiece The Battle of Algiers (La battaglia di Algeri, 1966) in which

Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Well, I do have one K/M lens at present, and I had five or six. I sold them (at a small profit) and bought the latest series in the same focal lengths because the latest series perform better. I never had any trouble using them. Godfrey On Oct 13, 2006, at 9:26 AM, Lon Williamson wrote:

Re: Open letter to Marnie Eactivist

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
I've got 99 left also. Frank I reckon all us Gmail users should bombard Cotty with unwanted invites just to see what he does. It could be fun. :-) Or not ;-( Dave ;-) On 10/13/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/10/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I've only got 99

OT, way OT: Another silly survey...

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
Given a certain silly survey (I like the sound of that ;-) the recent razor/lens marketing analogy, I thought I'd start my own survey. In 2 parts: 1. Which do you use/prefer: razor blade or electric shaver? 2. At how many blades do you think the manufactures will stop? 5, 10, 100? Dave (PS:

Re: OT: what I need to do street photography

2006-10-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Matt Kelch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not going to be too portable is it? haha. Even then, assuming you had 8x 750GB drives (6TB) that would only give you somewhere around 800 minutes of recording time. Thats a shocking amount of data. At 60 frames per minute, even _I_ might get a

Re: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 10/13/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every time he visited there, the AF speed has been noticeably faster. Opps, sorry, he was saying that the AF accuracy (not the speed) was constantly improving. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
LOL These are the parts under discussion/debat/rant/barage: Camera: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/IMGP5596.jpg Lens http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/IMGP5597.jpg I hope I got it right this time ;-) Dave On 10/13/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm skimming all of

RE: OT, way OT: Another silly survey...

2006-10-13 Thread Bill Owens
electric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 9:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT, way OT: Another silly survey... Given a certain silly survey (I like the sound of that ;-) the recent

Re: Scanner question

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
And you certainly don't want Newtons ring up yournever mind. Dave On 10/13/06, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't do it! You'll get newton rings up the wazzoo. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: OT, way OT: Another silly survey...

2006-10-13 Thread Bob W
Hot wax. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 13 October 2006 14:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT, way OT: Another silly survey... Given a certain silly survey (I like the sound of that

Re: OT, way OT: Another silly survey...

2006-10-13 Thread Dario Bonazza
1. Which do you use/prefer: razor blade or electric shaver? Bloody blade type. 2. At how many blades do you think the manufactures will stop? 5, 10, 100? 7 will be optimum. It will be called smb = super-multi-blade Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: istDS and K100D (pentaprism and pentamirror)

2006-10-13 Thread Gasha
Errr, I only have manual-focus lenses. But that anti-shake feature definitely is worth the money. Especially for portraits in low light situations. Gasha The DS is bigger and easier to manually focus, the K100D is brighter. I've owned both the D (Same finder as DS) and now own the

Re: OT, way OT: Another silly survey...

2006-10-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/13/2006 7:01:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In 2 parts: 1. Which do you use/prefer: razor blade or electric shaver? Razor. 2. At how many blades do you think the manufactures will stop? 5, 10, 100? Dave - I don't care as

RE: OT, way OT: Another silly survey...

2006-10-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I use an old fashioned straight edge razor and an electric strop. Five certainly seems adequate although guys with really tough, fast growing beards, and women with unruly leg hair, may opt for a Briggs Stratton Power Blade razor. Shel [Original Message] From: Bill Owens Given a

Re: OT, way OT: Another silly survey...

2006-10-13 Thread Privé
Op Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:27:53 +0200 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Given a certain silly survey (I like the sound of that ;-) the recent razor/lens marketing analogy, I thought I'd start my own survey. Ah, surveys, cool :o) In 2 parts: 1. Which do you use/prefer: razor blade

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread Bob W
How many angels can dance on the head of an aperture stimulator? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 13 October 2006 14:33 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey LOL These are

Re: Sample Pic - SMC Pentax M* 67 400mm f4 ED (IF)

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
I'm with Shel on this it's, very blue. a little muddy. I hope you don't mind, but I had a play with it in PS (~155kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/convict_Brendan-MacRae_DSvC.jpg IMO the scan just needed a little more post processing. BTW, nice picture Dave On 10/13/06, Shel

Re: OT iMac question

2006-10-13 Thread gfen
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, David J Brooks wrote: Maybe i'll just hang tight untill Leopard is released, unless it already is. Don't wait, join us! JOIN US! If/when they lump Boot Camp into the OS release, you'd still use it the same way, so waiting won't make that much of a difference from that

FS Friday - SMC Pentax K 50mm f/1.2 Lens

2006-10-13 Thread Jose R. Rodriguez
If anyone is interested, I have decided to sell my SMC Pentax K 50mm f/1.2 Lens: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZjrrodriguez Thanks, Jose R. Rodriguez -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Anti-shake (unscientific) test

2006-10-13 Thread Scott Loveless
I walked out the front door, leaned against the porch rail and took these two photos of a sign across the street. K100D, M200/4, f32, 1/10. These are center section crops. With: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4985380570086965266 Without:

Re: FS Friday - SMC Pentax K 50mm f/1.2 Lens

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
Wise choice, seeing as it's doesn't work on the new Pentax bodies. Dave On 10/13/06, Jose R. Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is interested, I have decided to sell my SMC Pentax K 50mm f/1.2 Lens: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZjrrodriguez Thanks, Jose R.

Re: OT, way OT: Another silly survey...

2006-10-13 Thread mike wilson
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/13 Fri PM 01:27:53 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT, way OT: Another silly survey... Given a certain silly survey (I like the sound of that ;-) the recent razor/lens marketing analogy, I thought I'd start my

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/13 Fri PM 02:01:36 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: The JCO survey How many angels can dance on the head of an aperture stimulator? -- Cheers, Bob We haven't had an auto-da-fe for a while. -Original

Re: 67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-13 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: J and K Messervy Subject: 67 90mm f2.8 What's this lens like? Any good? It's not particularly wide, but I've found one that's affordable. Would I be better off waiting for a 55? They are two very different

Cancelled my K10D Order

2006-10-13 Thread Walter Hamler
I'm pissed at Pentax! They absolutely refuse to honor their rebate on a 10~17 FE Zoom that I purchased in late August. Because I ordered the lens through Ritz Camera in late July, but was not charged to CC til 4 days before delivery, they are claiming that I waited more than 30 days from

Re: Cancelled my K10D Order

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
I was under the impression that Pentax doesn't manage the rebate program. So it's not all their fault. Dave ;-) On 10/13/06, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pissed at Pentax! They absolutely refuse to honor their rebate on a 10~17 FE Zoom that I purchased in late August. Because I

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