Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Subash
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: The Pentax K-7 manages to combine ... etc ... On the other hand, it would appear that if if you've got a K20, the K-7 gets you the exact same image quality, plus video, in a nicer package. Which is a tough sell for

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Boris Liberman
John Francis wrote: o K10D owners who passed on the K20 because it wasn't a big upgrade. (that probably includes quite a large number of folks, like me, who started on digital with a *ist-D, and moved on to a K10D). That would be me all right. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Chris Mitchell
John Francis wrote: o K10D owners who passed on the K20 because it wasn't a big upgrade. (that probably includes quite a large number of folks, like me, who started on digital with a *ist-D, and moved on to a K10D). That would be me all right. Boris Me too. That makes at

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/3 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com:  Apples makes things rot around themselves because of all the nasty  gases they emit.  To air things out you need to open windows. Until the windows crash and break and let the weather in - then you put  on a mac ;-) Penguins do quite well in

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/3 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: What's a Cubit?     --Noah An archetype scale of measurment? Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/3 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: On the other hand, it would appear that if if you've got a K20, the K-7 gets you the exact same image quality, plus video, in a nicer package.  Which is a tough sell for $1000+. I agree. As long as we only measure the two cameras on image quality and

RE: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Bob W
When's the last time you measured anything with cubits? People still do - it's not so different from pacing out a distance. I was given very specific instructions for the boat I'm building right now. All of the measurements are in cubits, which I find quite odd. I tried to plug

RE: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Bob W
How about we all take a look at what we've got, and free the wrap to it's modern equivalent, the window size dictated wrap. That's a bad idea. Readability is severely reduced when the lines are too long - it's why newspapers and magazines are printed in columns. Optimum

RE: 645D news

2009-10-03 Thread Bob W
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Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Oct 3, 2009, at 01:50 , Bob W wrote: That's confusing two separate issues. Resizing the window is the wrong way to achieve optimum line length for readability - you might as well tell newspapers to supply papers one column wide. Don't confuse newspapers with on screen email. Does not

RE: OT - Portus

2009-10-03 Thread Bob W
Hi gang, Had the privilege of a quick trip to Rome on Tues/Weds this week to film amongst the archaeological excavations at the ancient Roman seaport or Portus. I know Stan the Man is big on antiquity, as are some others - Gianco! - so thought you might like a look:

RE: OT - Portus

2009-10-03 Thread Bob W
Had the privilege of a quick trip to Rome on Tues/Weds this week to film amongst the archaeological excavations at the ancient Roman seaport or Portus. I know Stan the Man is big on antiquity, as are some others - Gianco! - so thought you might like a look:

RE: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Bob W
That's confusing two separate issues. Resizing the window is the wrong way to achieve optimum line length for readability - you might as well tell newspapers to supply papers one column wide. Don't confuse newspapers with on screen email. Does not compute. I'm not confused.

Re: how many (US) national parks have you been to?

2009-10-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: So I didnt see Mark's post -  just this reply -- Doug - have you been to NONE?? or did you forget the list? or is your list the one under Mark's indent? boy am I confused! I

Re: how many (US) national parks have you been to?

2009-10-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:05 AM, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I'd have to go with a tie for 1st place between Arches/Canyonlands and Denali... But many of the places that are most vivid and loved are specific trails or visitas in natural areas that don't necessarily fall within park

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:03 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/3 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: On the other hand, it would appear that if if you've got a K20, the K-7 gets you the exact same image quality, plus video, in a nicer package.  Which is a tough sell for $1000+. I

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote: pentax is officially 'semi-pro' now... :) Thats good, my work is semi good, so it should fit right in., Dave http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk7/ gets a 'highly recommended' quote The final word The Pentax K-7

RE: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Bob W
pentax is officially 'semi-pro' now... :) Thats good, my work is semi good, so it should fit right in., Dave Oh, I see - so you think you're better than the rest of us, do you? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Blues GESO- Paul Rishell Annie Rains

2009-10-03 Thread Michael Beacom
On Sep 30, 2009, at 6:15 AM, Derby Chang wrote: Michael Beacom wrote: Pictures of a top drawer Blues duo, in a tiny venue- Archie's Barbershop. (http://www.acousticblues.com/) There were something like 30 or 40 people- just about all the place can comfortably hold. All told, a great

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread eckinator
That makes four of us. Hanging back for (hopefully) an edition model with matching grip. Then again, the japanese market silver K20D was gruesome... Cheers Ecke 2009/10/3 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net: John Francis wrote:   o K10D owners who passed on the K20 because it wasn't a big

Re: 645D news

2009-10-03 Thread eckinator
Archangels only fit into pixels with angled microlenses because of the arch... 2009/10/3 Bob W p...@web-options.com: How many angels can you fit in a pixel? Archangels, or just the ordinary ones? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Oh boy........

2009-10-03 Thread David J Brooks
Looks like it will be out side, on the water front by the marina in North Bay, with indoor reception. Any one have a preset for white dress, water and sand.?? :-) Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario,

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 08:47:49AM +0100, Chris Mitchell wrote: John Francis wrote: o K10D owners who passed on the K20 because it wasn't a big upgrade. (that probably includes quite a large number of folks, like me, who started on digital with a *ist-D, and moved on to a

I paid $5000.00 for this

2009-10-03 Thread David J Brooks
IIRC it sold new in 2000 for +- $7000 Canadian. http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/drh/pho/1365229435.html I paid $5000 in 2001. Might as well keep it. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread paul stenquist
Nice grades for the K7. I find it interesting that in RAW mode high ISO, both the K7 and K20D perform as well as the NIkon D300, with the K20D leading the way by a small margin. Jpeg is another story as Canon and Nikon apply a lot of in-camera noise reduction, but the results are

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:20 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Nice grades for the K7. I find it interesting that in RAW mode high ISO, both the K7 and K20D perform as well as the NIkon D300, with the K20D leading the way by a small margin. Jpeg is another story as Canon and

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread paul stenquist
I had a K20D and a K10D. The K20D was my every day camera, and the K10D was a backup. When the K7 was introduced I bought one and sold the K10. Believe me, the K7D is a big step up from the K20. Exposure is much better, the faster write speed is a blessing, and the autofocus is superior in

Re: I paid $5000.00 for this

2009-10-03 Thread eckinator
Totally. What a shame. eBay Germany was a crazy place last night, too - most of Germany was out shopping food for today's national holiday so stuff went for painfully low prices. Too bad there was nothing in it for me... Crisis? What crisis? Cheers Ecke 2009/10/3 David J Brooks

Re: K100 vs KM

2009-10-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:25 AM, MikeM mmo45...@bigpond.net.au wrote: My K10 and K100 both need repairing, I have been quoted $549 to replace the circuit board for the K100 and the K10 shutter is sticking. I have decided to get the K10 repaired but was thinking of replacing the K100 with a KM. I

Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro

2009-10-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Only problem with the Tamron SP 90 is that you need a 1:1 adapter or 2x SP TC to get 1:1. Otherwise it's a superb lens as both a macro and a short tele. I'm rather fond of mine.

Re: Pentax K-x

2009-10-03 Thread Bong Manayon
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Very cool! Did you try out the ISO 12,800? How would you compare the IQ to the K-7? I have a feeling Sony sensors are better than Samsung sensors, and the K-x vs the K-7 is reminiscent of the K100D vs K10D: lower MP count,

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Ira H. Bryant IV
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:59:04 +0200 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/3 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: What's a Cubit?     --Noah An archetype scale of measurment? Jostein I think he was referring to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0KHt8xrQkk Ira -- Ira

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, Like you, I sold a K10d before the K7 came out (after seeing the K7 @ GFM). I've kept the K20d but it doesn't get much usage. I like the K7 much better. Along with your comments, I'd mention speed and battery life. I had the frame rate turned up to high and returned it to low yesterday.

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/10/3 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com: pentax is officially 'semi-pro' now... :) http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk7/ gets a 'highly recommended' quote The final word The Pentax K-7 manages to combine superb build quality, comprehensive customization options, excellent ergonomics

PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/3 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I had a K20D and a K10D. The K20D was my every day camera, and the K10D was a backup. When the K7 was introduced I bought one and sold the K10. Believe me, the K7D is a big step up from the K20. Exposure is much better, the faster write speed

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/3 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: That should read When the K20D came out... When the K20D I was a bit surprised by how all the forums blabbed about it being a minor upgrade from K10D, despite the facts. They are two very, very different beasts. The K10D was probably as good as any

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Jack Davis
Beautiful girl, very well posed. Disorganized background hangings do, somewhat, detract. Would like slightly more detail in Anja's outfit. Head and face, perfectly exposed! Jack --- On Sat, 10/3/09, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Luka Knezevic-Strika

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread ann sanfedele
Luka My choice for your submission to the 2010 PDML book God , you're good! ann http://annsan.smugmug.com Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: how many (US) national parks have you been to?

2009-10-03 Thread Doug Franklin
Bob Sullivan wrote: Mark, Thanks for the list. I've been to about 20, but am confused. I've been to Vicksburg battelfield and thought it was a national park. Regards, Bob S. It's probably a National Military Park, National Battlefield Park, or National Battlefield Monument, all of which are

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsof t-mac-windows Now all the American tourists will be looking for lavatories on tube trains. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
thx, ann, it might as well be my submission :) @jack, i do like clutter, might be a fault though in this case. and for the details, it might be a little sharper and more detailed when i get it properly scanned (this is just a snap with a k10d). On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM, ann sanfedele

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Doug Franklin
Joseph McAllister wrote: OMG In the inter-sector gap? In my day we never even considered the ISG. I do remember discussions about being able to buffer enough read to do a linear read for small files. I misspoke slightly ... there was a day when the fastest *PCs* *had* *disk* *interface*

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread mike wilson
Scott Loveless wrote: On 10/2/09, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Oct 2, 2009, at 15:55 , Larry Colen wrote: How about we all take a look at what we've got, and free the wrap to it's modern equivalent, the window size dictated wrap. Cue the old saw about how the size of

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Doug Franklin
Chris Mitchell wrote: John Francis wrote: o K10D owners who passed on the K20 because it wasn't a big upgrade. (that probably includes quite a large number of folks, like me, who started on digital with a *ist-D, and moved on to a K10D). That would be me all right. Boris Me too.

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Doug Franklin
David J Brooks wrote: I have no use for video, but faster AF would help me out a lot. I tend to lose a lot of shots with the K10 do to its slow hunt and peck AF. Thus the keeping of the Nikon stuff. I want it for the faster AF and the faster frame rate, primarily. The bigger sensor

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Bray Subject: Re: DPR review of K-7 On the other hand, it would appear that if if you've got a K20, the K-7 gets you the exact same image quality, plus video, in a nicer package. Which is a tough sell for $1000+. Not really. William Robb --

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Doug Franklin
Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Love it. You've got quite a pleasingly distinctive style. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Luka Knezevic-Strika Subject: PESO: Anja Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Wow. Wonderful image. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Mark Roberts
AlunFoto wrote: When the K20D I was a bit surprised by how all the forums blabbed about it being a minor upgrade from K10D, despite the facts. They are two very, very different beasts. The K10D was probably as good as any APS-C CCD sensor could get, and Pentax used a 22 bit A/D converter to make

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:52 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: On 10/2/09, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Oct 2, 2009, at 15:55 , Larry Colen wrote: How about we all take a look at what we've got, and free the wrap to it's modern

RE: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Bob W
- Original Message - From: Luka Knezevic-Strika Subject: PESO: Anja Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Wow. Wonderful image. Agreed. Luka is one of 2 or 3 photographers on this list who's so good he makes up for the rest of us. Bob --

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Doug Brewer
Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ yep. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
Mark Roberts wrote: AlunFoto wrote: When the K20D I was a bit surprised by how all the forums blabbed about it being a minor upgrade from K10D, despite the facts. They are two very, very different beasts. The K10D was probably as good as any APS-C CCD sensor could get, and Pentax used a 22

Re: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread P N Stenquist
Excellent. Thanks for sharing. Paul On Oct 3, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Bob W wrote: - Original Message - From: Luka Knezevic-Strika Subject: PESO: Anja Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Wow. Wonderful image. Agreed. Luka is one of 2 or 3 photographers

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Dario Bonazza wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: AlunFoto wrote: When the K20D I was a bit surprised by how all the forums blabbed about it being a minor upgrade from K10D, despite the facts. They are two very, very different beasts. The K10D was probably as good as any APS-C CCD sensor could get,

Re: OT - Portus

2009-10-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Brewer Bob W wrote: Cotty wrote: Hi gang, Had the privilege of a quick trip to Rome on Tues/Weds this week to film amongst the archaeological excavations at the ancient Roman seaport or Portus. I know Stan the Man is big on antiquity, as are some others - Gianco! - so

Re: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
uh oh. you're all too kind On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 5:35 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Excellent. Thanks for sharing. Paul On Oct 3, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Bob W wrote: - Original Message - From: Luka Knezevic-Strika Subject: PESO: Anja Loving the 6x7 :)

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
thank you doug, a very nice thing to read :) On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Love it.  You've got quite a pleasingly distinctive style. --

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Joseph McAllister peaking of computers, and interfaces, and ergonomics, brings me to a question. How many of you members of this list have screens that limit you to 79 or 80 characters in width? I know on my Apple ][ and my original Macintosh Plus, that was the screen width. As

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen Cue the old saw about how the size of the space shuttle was influenced by the width of a horses ass. I thought it was the width of railroad tracks in Britain. I follow the part about two horses wide on chariots the ruts in old Roman roads influencing the wagon makers who

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Stan Halpin That site only gives conversions for English cubits. For some reason it is hard for me to believe that the personage Scott has been hearing from about boat building really intended English cubits. What we really need is a conversion table for Phoenician cubits or the like.

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Scott Loveless On 10/3/09, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: That site only gives conversions for English cubits. For some reason it is hard for me to believe that the personage Scott has been hearing from about boat building really intended English cubits. What we really

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Scott Loveless On 10/3/09, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: That site only gives conversions for English cubits. For some reason it is hard for me to believe that the personage Scott has been

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Miserere
2009/10/3 John Francis jo...@panix.com: On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 10:47:28PM -0700, Tim Bray wrote: But the primary market for the K-7 isn't folks upgrading from the K20. It's aimed at three types of buyer:  o K10D owners who passed on the K20 because it wasn't a big upgrade.    (that

PESO - Lighting Up

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
Had a pretty fruitful photo walk this morning - best in a while, I think. I'll post this and another today, the rest during the week. Hope you enjoy: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/10/lighting-up.html Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Oo! Gorgeous (both the photo and the young lady...). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson --

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Tom C
I basically agree. I thought because of the sensor, CMOS vs. CCD, that the K20D/K10D difference was considered quite large. Here's my chagrined viewpoint on the K-7, with my own rationale applied, and I reserve the right to change my mind: 1. First I have really been close to purchasing a Canon

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread eckinator
sweet. best pic I've seen from you so far! Cheers Ecke 2009/10/3 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:14:41PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Oo! Gorgeous (both the photo and the young lady...). Gotta

Re: PESO - Lighting Up

2009-10-03 Thread eckinator
neat! especially with all the parallel/convergent diagonal lines like sides of his head, shoulder/sleeve junction etc great job frank, no nits cheers ecke 2009/10/3 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: Had a pretty fruitful photo walk this morning - best in a while, I think.  I'll post

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread eckinator
I had a similar idea but decided to give her and Luca the benefit of the doubt Besides, wasn't that you with the hollowed skull bike helmet alien idea? ]=) Cheers Ecke 2009/10/3 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:14:41PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Tom C
I bet that 16meg card fills up really really fast with RAW files. :-) Tom On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, Like you, I sold a K10d before the K7 came out (after seeing the K7 @ GFM). I've kept the K20d but it doesn't get much usage.  I like the

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 07:25:51PM +0200, eckinator scripsit: 2009/10/3 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:14:41PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: Loving the 6x7 :)

Re: So Free is Free, I guess.

2009-10-03 Thread Tom C
It might be useful for telephoto shots where focus is at infinity, otherwise the little rings will probably become annoying... or artistic depending on you POV. Tom On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:34 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to be the guy that everyone thinks of when

Re: So Free is Free, I guess.

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: It might be useful for telephoto shots where focus is at infinity, otherwise the little rings will probably become annoying... or artistic depending on you POV. And nothing impresses the ladies like a big honkin' lens hanging off

PESO - By the Drake Hotel

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
Close to the shot I ~really~ wanted, but not quite. Too bad about the car coming out of the abdomen of the guy on the sign. Sigh... Also, does this look too dark to you? I really can't tell having rendered this on an uncalibrated laptop screen. Despite its flaws I think it's a fun shot - hope

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I basically agree.  I thought because of the sensor, CMOS vs. CCD, that the K20D/K10D difference was considered quite large. Here's my chagrined viewpoint on the K-7, with my own rationale applied, and I reserve the right to

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:39:10PM -0400, P. J. Alling wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: On Oct 2, 2009, at 15:55 , Larry Colen wrote: How about we all take a look at what we've got, and free the wrap to it's modern equivalent, the window size dictated wrap. Cue the old saw about how the

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Rick Womer
Mark! --- On Sat, 10/3/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Filling a 16meg card with Raw files is no problem (until you have to sort them), -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I think Graydon can find the creepy in anything. eckinator wrote: I had a similar idea but decided to give her and Luca the benefit of the doubt Besides, wasn't that you with the hollowed skull bike helmet alien idea? ]=) Cheers Ecke 2009/10/3 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Sat, Oct 03,

Re: PESO - By the Drake Hotel

2009-10-03 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:54:48PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: [snip] Also, does this look too dark to you? I really can't tell having rendered this on an uncalibrated laptop screen. [snip] http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/by-drake-hotel.html It does not appear dark on my

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 12:16:59PM -0500, Tom C wrote: Here's my chagrined viewpoint on the K-7, with my own rationale applied, and I reserve the right to change my mind: [ . . .] 2. I've been very unhappy with the K20D, mainly in the area of exposure accuracy. A very high number of images

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I think Graydon can find the creepy in anything. I was looking at her face, which is beautiful. Now that I go back and look at the body, yes, it does have a little girl look to it (that is to say, she appears from

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Tom, you'll be in the same boat with any system. Canon 6mp cameras are now selling for even less than Pentax. Read the Canon forums and you'll find that Canon has it's share of problems, with exposure, noise, focus, you name it. The question is what do you want, and is it even possible to get

Re: PESO - By the Drake Hotel

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:54:48PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: [snip] Also, does this look too dark to you?  I really can't tell having rendered this on an uncalibrated laptop screen. [snip]

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 09:30:21PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: You guys sure keep me busy. Can't you do anything on your own? :-) http://www.csgnetwork.com/cubitscnv.html Try this and take your pick! A friend once commented about a metric assload of stuff, and then pointed out that a

Re: OT: Quote of the day

2009-10-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 09:43:20PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: And I've never met a FAQ that had an answer for me. I'm fairly certain that there is no answer for you. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
About 1 shot I'd say. Tom C wrote: I bet that 16meg card fills up really really fast with RAW files. :-) Tom On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, Like you, I sold a K10d before the K7 came out (after seeing the K7 @ GFM). I've kept the K20d but

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Tom C
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I basically agree.  I thought because of the sensor, CMOS vs. CCD, that the K20D/K10D difference was considered quite large. Here's my chagrined viewpoint on the K-7,

Re: So Free is Free, I guess.

2009-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: It might be useful for telephoto shots where focus is at infinity, otherwise the little rings will probably become annoying... or artistic depending on you POV. And nothing impresses the ladies like

Re: PESO: Mischief

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Mischief or, considering the price of some of these shoes, Felony. Comment as you will. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 I've often seen shoes dangling from wires like that, but never

Curves Lines I

2009-10-03 Thread gldnbearz
From my recent trip to Washington, DC. We used to Metro system to get around. http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Nn-R2KLB88M/Ssa9s9pzKtI/AlI/pk_NcwvsPHk/s144/IMGP3872.JPG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Curves Lines I

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM, gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com wrote: From my recent trip to Washington, DC.  We used to Metro system to get around. http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Nn-R2KLB88M/Ssa9s9pzKtI/AlI/pk_NcwvsPHk/s144/IMGP3872.JPG I think this is a cool shot, but it's hard to tell

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Tom C
The K10/20/7 all have the same nominal sensor resolution . . . John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: K10D: 10MP K20D K7D: 14.6MP My mistake. I think that's the other thing that prompted me to get a K20D, it was twice the resolution as the *ist D. With the 5D MK II you get more

Re: PESO: Mischief

2009-10-03 Thread gldnbearz
Those shoes don't look all that new. The heel and ankle collars look pretty worn and loose. A not uncommon sight around here. - Pat On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Mischief

Re: DPR review of K-7

2009-10-03 Thread Tom C
I want the world and know I can't have it. Tom On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:59 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, you'll be in the same boat with any system. Canon 6mp cameras are now selling for even less than Pentax.  Read the Canon forums and you'll find that Canon has

Re: Curves Lines I

2009-10-03 Thread gldnbearz
Oops, let's try again. http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Nn-R2KLB88M/Ssa9s9pzKtI/AlI/pk_NcwvsPHk/s800/IMGP3872.JPG Must test links... On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM, gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com wrote: From my

Re: PESO - By the Drake Hotel

2009-10-03 Thread Bruce Walker
frank theriault wrote: I don't look at histograms because I don't know what they mean. *Well* worth your while finding out about, Frank. Not hard really, and they provide you lots of extra info to help get your intended exposure. As a public service, a 3-parter ... (warning: YouTube vids)

RE: PESO - By the Drake Hotel

2009-10-03 Thread Bob W
Close to the shot I ~really~ wanted, but not quite. It's also close to the shot I wanted, but not quite. It still works though, rather well. Too bad about the car coming out of the abdomen of the guy on the sign. I hate it when that happens - it makes such a mess. Aliens are so much

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