Re: PESOs Hale at SFLX
Can't really see her toes... On 9/19/2012 12:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: This musician is a little prettier than the last from head: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001992852/ to toe: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001990121/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs Hale at SFLX
Beautiful subject, Larry! I love the first shot and think it's the best of the bunch. There were several that I think would've been even better but for her having her face turned ever-so-slightly away from the camera. I'm thinking 75283 in particular. What a lovely woman. -- Walt On 9/18/2012 11:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: This musician is a little prettier than the last from head: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001992852/ to toe: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001990121/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs Hale at SFLX
Thanks Walt, Dan, PJ ... On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:42 PM, Walt wrote: Beautiful subject, Larry! I love the first shot and think it's the best of the bunch. There were several that I think would've been even better but for her having her face turned ever-so-slightly away from the camera. There are certain challenges to photographing a concert, with a manual focus camera. Even with the A*200/2.8 stopped down to f/4, it doesn't have a hell of a lot of depth of field fifteen feet from the subject.Then there's the detail that singers seem to be more intent on singing than on psychically knowing exactly were to look so that I can get the best photo. I'm thinking 75283 in particular. What a lovely woman. She is indeed stunning. It turns out that she's going to school in Denton, about 30 miles from where my sister lives. Kind of makes me want to take a road trip to Texas. -- Walt On 9/18/2012 11:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: This musician is a little prettier than the last from head: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001992852/ to toe: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001990121/ Yes, I know the shoes are funky. A few years ago I discovered that lot of women really like photos of wild shoes. Ever since then, I've been taking a lot more pictures of shoes. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Downburst, Northern Buffalo County, Nebraska (7/28/2012)
On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Walt wrote: On 9/18/2012 6:58 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Didn't spend a lot of time on this one, but hope you like it nonetheless. It was one of the rare brief storms of the summer and I had to rush about 20 miles to catch it as it died is big exhale of wind, hail, and brief hard rain. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8001420606/lightbox/ Comments and evicerations welcome in equal measure. Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 on Pentax K-5 I really like it a lot, but less for the weather element than the galvanized tubs. For some reason, my eye was drawn to them more than the downpour. The lighting on the tubs, and grass, is really wonderful I'd have never thought to frame the photo that way. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Sunset cycle
Pic at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/-big/RUNE6125.jpg.html Bloggage at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/Bicycle-shadow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus
On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:37 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Holy s%t that is such a great photo! Edvard Munsch meets Alfred Hitchcock meets Alice Kramden. There might be some David Lynch in there too. Brilliant! I agree. I nearly missed it in the mass of email that was posted when I was off at SFLX. cheers, flank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus waiting for the proof copy of my new calendar... this isn't in it :-) Took this a couple of months ago Ist-D with the kit DA18-55 f/6.7 at 1/3000 ISO 400 Focal Length 40mm (60mm in 35mm) http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2020867290_jd6NcCt/Medium ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus
An interesting photo. A bit of the scream to the left, and a choice for apartment dwellers on the right: bars or a window air conditioner. Very New York and lots of fun. Paul On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: waiting for the proof copy of my new calendar... this isn't in it :-) Took this a couple of months ago Ist-D with the kit DA18-55 f/6.7 at 1/3000 ISO 400 Focal Length 40mm (60mm in 35mm) http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2020867290_jd6NcCt/Medium ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey Cory! New Canon 6D has wi-fi!
On 17/9/12, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Some people are way beyond pixel-peeping, they've started peeping at pixels that don't even exist yet. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ...
On 17/9/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I think we might all be chipping in to buy Cotty a new hat sometime soon. ;-) Well I hate to say it, but even I might have to agree with you. BUT do you think Photokina is where they will announce a FF? I somehow doubt it. But I think it could only be a matter of months away to an announcement... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens
Christine, Motorcycle helmuts - OK necessary! Filters - not so much. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: I use filters! When I did the construction shoot a while back, I was glad I was a filter-girl. One of those little trucks would come zooming by and soon enough I and my cameras were covered head to toe in dirt-dust, and, of course, tiny rock particles would fly about as well. One dinged my B + W polarizing filter real nice, but thankfully the pesky little rock particle didn't get the front element. This thread reminds me of the time I was at Bob Sullivan's house years ago after just joining the PDML. He began a long lecture on how PDMLers do not use filters and that if I wanted to be a true PDMLer I should give up the habit real fast. I said I would, but I had my fingers croxxed, and have been hiding my untruth all these good long years--until now, of course, but despite being junior to most, I am senior to some, so I'm feeling cocky and bold and devil may care and decided to come clean! I say use filters, but buy good ones. That reminds me: I need to replace my semi-cheap UV filters. I think I'll head over to the B + W store. To me, shooting without a filter is like riding a motorcycle without a helmut. You won't find filter-girl--aka helmut-girl--without either. Cheers, Filter-girl from Chicago On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared. Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter. My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it. I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who swear by the filter. Bipin. camp: San Mateo, CA and not from the far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus
This moving image is one that I'll possibly not forget. Is it a yawn or a desperate cry for help? Just great, Ann. Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:11 PM Subject: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus waiting for the proof copy of my new calendar... this isn't in it :-) Took this a couple of months ago Ist-D with the kit DA18-55 f/6.7 at 1/3000 ISO 400 Focal Length 40mm (60mm in 35mm) http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2020867290_jd6NcCt/Medium ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Lunch
Thanks, Bob. I may have overdone it a bit with curves. ;-) And as for the noise, I was shooting at high ISO. I don't know how to pull the exif data on my phone, but I do recall shooting as high as 1250 ISO that day. I wanted to try a really tiny aperture for a wide dof - I think that shot was f16. Thank you for your comment. All your points well-taken. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Lunch From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com I was having second thoughts about the title for exactly that reason. Also, the photo was taken late afternoon so it wasn't even lunch time. I'm glad you commented because I was beginning to wonder if my post made the list. I was getting paranoid: Is it that bad a photo? So, if anyone's reading this, let me know what you think, even if you think it's bad. As Boris says, be brutal. I actually think it's a good photo but on my android the colour looks off. Also I am now wondering if it needs to be cropped a bit so we can't see the bottom edge of the wing. I think this is a very detailed, well-focused close up. Maybe my feelings have affected my ability to properly critique this photo. So, have at it! Yay or nay (to quote another list member). If it can be improved let me know that, too. As I said I think I have at least the seed of a very good photo, so if you think it can be saved I'd like to know how. It's a nice subject and nicely composed - difficult to get anything new or astounding with such subject matter though unless you're a lepidopterist, or whatever manner of person it is that knows about these things. The light is just right for it, but it does seem over-saturated to me, and there seems to be a lot of noise in there among the greenery. I like being able to see the pollen standing out on the butterly's wings. B Thanks everyone! ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Lunch From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of frank theriault http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lunch.html you ate a butterfly? I thought you were Vegan! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
- J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - If your gonna put a fixed lens on a camera, why not have the sensor even bigger than 24x36? Quality could increase substantially -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Lunch
Thanks, Ken. Appreciate it. Again, point well-taken. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Lunch I like it but the biggest issue for me is the cutoff of both wings. -Original Message- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: PESO - Lunch From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com I was having second thoughts about the title for exactly that reason. Also, the photo was taken late afternoon so it wasn't even lunch time. I'm glad you commented because I was beginning to wonder if my post made the list. I was getting paranoid: Is it that bad a photo? So, if anyone's reading this, let me know what you think, even if you think it's bad. As Boris says, be brutal. I actually think it's a good photo but on my android the colour looks off. Also I am now wondering if it needs to be cropped a bit so we can't see the bottom edge of the wing. I think this is a very detailed, well-focused close up. Maybe my feelings have affected my ability to properly critique this photo. So, have at it! Yay or nay (to quote another list member). If it can be improved let me know that, too. As I said I think I have at least the seed of a very good photo, so if you think it can be saved I'd like to know how. It's a nice subject and nicely composed - difficult to get anything new or astounding with such subject matter though unless you're a lepidopterist, or whatever manner of person it is that knows about these things. The light is just right for it, but it does seem over-saturated to me, and there seems to be a lot of noise in there among the greenery. I like being able to see the pollen standing out on the butterly's wings. B Thanks everyone! ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Lunch From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of frank theriault http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lunch.html you ate a butterfly? I thought you were Vegan! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Sunset cycle
Love it! Great light, those long, long shadows and a bike. Wonderful composition. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com Sent: September 19, 2012 9/19/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Sunset cycle Pic at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/-big/RUNE6125.jpg.html Bloggage at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/Bicycle-shadow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESOs Hale at SFLX
Those are quite the shoes! And a beautiful portrait of the other end. She's got a real 40s look going with the hair and makeup, helped by that older-looking mic. Great stuff! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: September 19, 2012 9/19/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESOs Hale at SFLX This musician is a little prettier than the last from head: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001992852/ to toe: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001990121/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Sax Solo
I must be brutally honest here: that is a rather static and undynamic (if that's a word) photo. And to me that's always a difficulty shooting jazz. The guy can be blowing the most amazing Coltranesque solo and be standing stock-still staring into space (as this guy seems to be doing). Sometimes they will get into it physically but that can be hard to capture as well as that can be sporadic and unpredictable. Some are physically gesturing all the time, but my guess is that this player isn't one of them. ;-) So, whatever the reason, I have to say that this is unfortunately a fairly uninspiring photo of a musician who was likely playing amazing music - but not showing the outward indicators of it. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Sax Solo http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16469093 Comments are always welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT For those who wanted to pay for fewer features ...
On 9/19/2012 7:30 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 17/9/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I think we might all be chipping in to buy Cotty a new hat sometime soon. ;-) Well I hate to say it, but even I might have to agree with you. BUT do you think Photokina is where they will announce a FF? I somehow doubt it. But I think it could only be a matter of months away to an announcement... I've already predicted, just a bit too late for the Christmas buying season. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane
Thanks to everyone who viewed commented on these photos. I am glad there were different favorites among the group. I was fortunate in my location which was a small river town pretty much unchanged for the last 100 yrs. I also took a photo of the car's owners which I will post at some point. They look not so much proud as satisfied. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens
On Sep 19, 2012, at 24:02 , Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: I use filters! When I did the construction shoot a while back, I was glad I was a filter-girl. One of those little trucks would come zooming by and soon enough I and my cameras were covered head to toe in dirt-dust, and, of course, tiny rock particles would fly about as well. One dinged my B + W polarizing filter real nice, but thankfully the pesky little rock particle didn't get the front element. I can understand 'em for sand/rocks and crap flying at the lens. I stopped using them years ago when I was shooting the inside of a dark abandoned cathedral in Ireland. I pointed up to the dark arches above me and everything in my viewfinder looked grey. Hmm. Looked up with my eyeballs and it was dark. Back to the viewfinder: grey. Took filter off, looked through - dark. The lighting coming in from the (empty/open) windows on each side was hazing out the filter and SERIOUSLY reducing contrast. Maybe a super-high-buck expensive filter wouldn't have done that, but… hard hoods, keeping the camera in the bag, and capping the lenses when they're not actually mounted to the camera seems to have been doing the trick for the past 10 years for me. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW141 - Buried
Thanks, Rick and frank :-) DagT Den 17. sep. 2012 kl. 01:18 skrev knarftheria...@gmail.com: Love it! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: DagT li...@thrane.name Sent: September 16, 2012 9/16/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW141 - Buried http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Kind of OT, as the K-5 is in for focus adjustment. The camera here is the 4x5 large format camera shown here: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/Razzle/Razzle.html I even updated the Razzle gallery with a couple of snapshots. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO- I believe I can fly
Aww, that’s so sweet. Lovely. -T On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Been a while since I posted a PESO, and some of you have seen this if you're following me elsewhere, but still, I think it's a pretty decent shot. http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/i-believe-i-can-fly/ laters -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On wi-fi, flashes, batteries etc.
John, Let me comment on a few points that you made: 1. focus adjustment, 2. battery difference, and 3. SDM. 1. Sorry, but you apply the logic about the focus-adjustment functionality backwards. It is not the need to adjust the focus on the newer cameras, but rather a possibility. I don't think that K5/K7/.. are produced with more louse clearances than *ist D(S) cameras. Deviations from the perfect sizes exist in any [mass-]manufactured cameras and lenses. When those add up in a negative way, you have less than perfect focus. I haven't done any focus adjustment with any of my lenses as I moved from *ist DS to K-7. I don't see any difference between the two. It doesn't mean that they all focus perfectly. It's just that I am too lazy (or as I think, - busy) to play with that. I actually suspect that one of the lenses can benefit from the fine adjustment. 2. As for the batteries, - when I was switching from *istDS to K7, I also was not very happy at first that I had to use a proprietary battery. I was considering getting a grip just to be able to use AAs. However, having used it K7 with D-Li70, I see several big advantages beyond those experienced by the designers (Li-ion batteries provide more stable voltage/current values). First, Li-ion batteries tend to hold the charge better when they are not being used. Second, (while this is not a direct comparison), in my experience one charge of the D-Li90 lasts a bit longer in K-7, then fully charged set of 2000 mAh-2300 mAh rechargeable batteries in DS. That's despite the fact that the original Pentax D-Li90 is rated at 1860 mAh. The difference might be due to the higher efficiency of K-7, or due to the fact that AA's voltage falls off at an earlier point (i.e. the camera is not able to use the entire capacity of the batteries). Second, from the practical point of view of travel load. With K7, when I am flying, I also take 2 sets of spares: one D-Li90 spare and one set of freshly charged AAs. A spare D-Li90 is smaller in size, and probably slightly lighter than 4 AAs. The charger for D-Li90 is smaller and lighter than that for 4 AAs (I am using LaCrosse one for AAs). But, obviously, you'd carry two chargers instead of one. Let's see how this works for me in different scenarios. I assume the trips when I am flying, and hence the volume and weight is important. a) A trip where I don't need/take the flash. Those are rear, but when they happen, the advantage of D-Li90 is clear. b) A trip where I take both, and shoot a lot with both (such as a dance festival). On such trips, I sometimes take 500-1000 shots within one evening, and need to recharge both, camera and flash batteries overnight, to have them ready by the morning. With D-Li90 (K-5), I have no choice but taking two chargers. But that allows me to charge the batteries in parallel. With all AAs (DS), I had to either swap the batteries in the middle of the night, or take extra battery sets that I can be using next morning, while the last night batteries are still charging. In this case, D-Li90 (K-5) also has obvious advantage. c) A trip where I take both, and shoot moderate number of photographs at a relatively slow pace. Here is where one charger for all batteries has an advantage. However, if such a trip is short, I don't take the full set (spares and chargers), but only a part that I might need. As for the higher cost of spare batteries. I actually didn't by a spare for D-Li90 until almost two years later. As described above, I never had a shoot where I fully exhausted it. When I bought it, - it was $14.50 from a 3rd party, - you can read about that here: http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg635940.html That battery is fine, except that a small piece of plastic (one that looks like a small strip) broke off at the end, - so, now I need to be a bit more careful when inserting that battery. The bottom line is that in my typical usage scenarios, D-Li90 has considerable advantage for most scenarios (despite my original reservations that are similar to yours). YMMV. 3. If it is of interest to you: SDM focusing provides speed advantage. And, except for a failing chip in my 17-70 that was replaced under warranty, I did not have problems with SDM (I have 50-135 and 17-70 on my K-7), knock-on-the-wood. Having said all of that, - I agree with the main point of yours, - if your camera does all you need/want, there is no reason to upgrade it. Igor Wed Sep 19 01:13:14 EDT 2012 John Coyle wrote: One advantage of not having moved on from the *ist-D is that I can use simple old widely available AA batteries in both camera and flash (AF330FTZ)! Normally carrying two sets of spare recently-recharged batteries means I have seldom run out of juice. There seem to be other advantages too, from what I read here: no problems with fancy-shmancy SDM focussing. no need to calibrate my lenses - they all seem to focus pretty well. I don't attempt to shoot in available light where I
Re: PESO Up
There's an awful lot of visible noise in that sky... Actually that's very good for the small sensor camera. It really does appear to have better low light response than the K20d/K7 sensors. Nice composition too. On 9/19/2012 12:48 PM, Toine wrote: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/234-up Q, 01 lens, 30s, f2.8 Toine -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
So far my snark at Ricewhine stands. I wish I could say it makes me feel good but I had really hoped for a 24mp APS-C DSLR, a FF was just to much to hope for. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
About newest models (K5 II, iphone 5, etc.) (Was: DA 17-70mm AS IS (without correction))
Tue Sep 18 08:17:12 EDT 2012 Roman Melihhov wrote: ^^^ thanks to pentax with its just another K-5 mockup. Who'd need just another similar camera with very few modifications. Maybe those who did not buy K-5 in the first place? Why people assume that they have to buy every new model of their favorite gadget line?! It's a stupid frenzy of people trying to get the newest and the bestest [sic] model, which is catered to and kept heated up by the manufacturers. These people feel entitled to receive the great innovated model every year. It is the same frenzy that fires back at the manufacturers as a f.. flatus from the same fans who are unhappy that the new model is only incrementally better than the previous one. [Resume your regular activities. :-) ] Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Up
Yes and it doesn't have the ugly banding effect of the K20 sensor. Toine On 19 September 2012 19:04, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: There's an awful lot of visible noise in that sky... Actually that's very good for the small sensor camera. It really does appear to have better low light response than the K20d/K7 sensors. Nice composition too. On 9/19/2012 12:48 PM, Toine wrote: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/234-up Q, 01 lens, 30s, f2.8 Toine -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nocturnal Hyatt
Rick, You seem to be _captivated_ by that Hyatt. :-) IMHO, the first two shots are much more interesting, especially the first one, with the fish-eye. That one was a great shot. (The last one, nocturnal, didn't touch me.) Igor PS. I stayed in that Hyatt for a 4-day conference in November of 2010. The conference was in those subterranean conference rooms as well. It was just two days ago that I erased the wi-fi networks from that hotel from my laptop as I was cleaning the list of the networks it was allowed to connect to. Tue Sep 18 21:43:16 EDT 2012 Rick Womer wrote: One at right angles to the one I was photographing; the International Tower. I was paroled after 2 nights and 2 12-hour days in subterranean conference rooms. http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele annsan at nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml at pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:21 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Nocturnal Hyatt On 9/18/2012 21:01, Rick Womer wrote: A bit more conventional than the last two: I would'd say that... which cell block were you in? ann http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16464256size=lg Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus
on 2012-09-18 21:11 Ann Sanfedele wrote http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2020867290_jd6NcCt/Medium this one's a real keeper; attention-getting, but it's the geometry and tones that give it depth -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
I'm with you there. A jump in rez of that amount would be welcome, and would continue to justify my investment in only DA and DA* lenses. Anyways, so far my K20D isn't stopping me from just shutting up and shooting. :-) On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: So far my snark at Ricewhine stands. I wish I could say it makes me feel good but I had really hoped for a 24mp APS-C DSLR, a FF was just to much to hope for. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
A 24MP APS-C without AA-filter would have been nice. DagT Den 19. sep. 2012 kl. 20:03 skrev Bruce Walker: I'm with you there. A jump in rez of that amount would be welcome, and would continue to justify my investment in only DA and DA* lenses. Anyways, so far my K20D isn't stopping me from just shutting up and shooting. :-) On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: So far my snark at Ricewhine stands. I wish I could say it makes me feel good but I had really hoped for a 24mp APS-C DSLR, a FF was just to much to hope for. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
But improved autofocus will be even nicer. If it's truly a step up, the K5 IIs will take the lead spot ahead of my K5, and the current backup, a K7, will go on ebay. Paul On Sep 19, 2012, at 2:11 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: A 24MP APS-C without AA-filter would have been nice. DagT Den 19. sep. 2012 kl. 20:03 skrev Bruce Walker: I'm with you there. A jump in rez of that amount would be welcome, and would continue to justify my investment in only DA and DA* lenses. Anyways, so far my K20D isn't stopping me from just shutting up and shooting. :-) On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: So far my snark at Ricewhine stands. I wish I could say it makes me feel good but I had really hoped for a 24mp APS-C DSLR, a FF was just to much to hope for. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nocturnal Hyatt
Maybe he's just a captive of the Hyatt. On 9/19/2012 1:24 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Rick, You seem to be _captivated_ by that Hyatt. :-) IMHO, the first two shots are much more interesting, especially the first one, with the fish-eye. That one was a great shot. (The last one, nocturnal, didn't touch me.) Igor PS. I stayed in that Hyatt for a 4-day conference in November of 2010. The conference was in those subterranean conference rooms as well. It was just two days ago that I erased the wi-fi networks from that hotel from my laptop as I was cleaning the list of the networks it was allowed to connect to. Tue Sep 18 21:43:16 EDT 2012 Rick Womer wrote: One at right angles to the one I was photographing; the International Tower. I was paroled after 2 nights and 2 12-hour days in subterranean conference rooms. http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele annsan at nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml at pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:21 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Nocturnal Hyatt On 9/18/2012 21:01, Rick Womer wrote: A bit more conventional than the last two: I would'd say that... which cell block were you in? ann http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16464256size=lg Comments always appreciated! Rick -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Fire Evacuation
Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: But improved autofocus will be even nicer. If it's truly a step up, the K5 IIs will take the lead spot ahead of my K5, and the current backup, a K7, will go on ebay. I recognize that I tend to take photos in conditions that are a bit more challenging than most people face. I've spent the past couple of days going through my photos from last weekend. I'd say that I lost the most shots through mis-focus. Unfortunately I can't easily tell in lightroom which were manual and which were auto focus. The biggest camera change to improve my keeper ratio would probably be more focus points, each one restricted to a narrower range. I lost several photos because the camera focused on someone closer to the camera that was just barely in the frame. Then, of course, there is the ongoing problem with focusing on the microphone. Beyond that, faster accurate focus in stupid low light would really help. Dancers just are not considerate enough to only move perpendicular to the line of focus. One feature that would really help me would be different exposure metering modes, one where I could say to not meter on the bright back lighting, another, where it would ignore dark backgrounds (though that is more a lightroom issue). I mostly just shoot manual exposure anyways, but sometimes when people are moving around from light to dark areas, I don't have that luxury and have to go to TAv. There were also a bunch of pictures that weren't lost per se, but were rougher than I'd like because in order to have a fast enough shutter speed for lindy hop, I was shooting in the ISO 12,800-25,600 range. An 8MP sensor with the latest technology would do me more good than a 24MP sensor. Well done mirrorless technology could alleviate a lot of my problems. Without the mirrorbox and needing retrofocus lenses, I could get faster wide lenses. When focus is an issue, a sharp 30/1.4 on APS would do me more good than a FF 50/1.4. Likewise, for manually focusing in the dark, liveview, and I imagine focus peaking , would be an immense aid. However, most of these things would make no difference to a landscape photographer. Sure, fast wide glass would be nice, but it's not as big of an issue if you have a tripod. Ralf's probably the only one crazy enough to shoot landscapes at night. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso: Downburst, Northern Buffalo County, Nebraska (7/28/2012)
Looks a lot like Iowa all summer. Have you guys been keeping all the rain for yourselves? pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:58 PM Subject: Peso: Downburst, Northern Buffalo County, Nebraska (7/28/2012) Didn't spend a lot of time on this one, but hope you like it nonetheless. It was one of the rare brief storms of the summer and I had to rush about 20 miles to catch it as it died is big exhale of wind, hail, and brief hard rain. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8001420606/lightbox/ Comments and evicerations welcome in equal measure. Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 on Pentax K-5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fire Evacuation
Sorry to hear. Be safe. And good luck. Paul On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fire Evacuation
Stressful times. Thoughts and prayers are with you and yours, Tom. 20% chance of rain Wed. night and Thurs. and then again Friday through Saturday, but a mile is far too close. Looks like you have next to no wind right now, which is good. The fires we had down here in NW Nebraska got into pine forest and those trees can go up instantly. Hope they can contain it while it is still relatively small. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nocturnal Hyatt
Nocturnal Hyatt sounds like some sort of marsupial. I think the one light upper right makes it of interest. I did poke around a little there and I did like cleaning windows also. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Nocturnal Hyatt Message-ID: 1348016461.74157.yahoomail...@web121801.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A bit more conventional than the last two: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16464256size=lg Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fire Evacuation
Keep safe, Tom. If you have to get out, git while the gitten's good. That 18 year old ought to be strung up by his thumbs. -p On 9/19/2012 2:24 PM, Tom C wrote: Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:31:43PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: Beyond that, faster accurate focus in stupid low light would really help. From some of the reports I've seen, this is one area where the K-5 II has significant improvements. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:Subject: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus
Calls to mind the painting The Scream which just went on exhibit again this week. Like the painting this photo begs more questions than it answers. Intriguing. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:11:49 -0400 From: Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus Message-ID:505937f5.7040...@nyc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed waiting for the proof copy of my new calendar... this isn't in it:-) Took this a couple of months ago Ist-D with the kit DA18-55 f/6.7 at 1/3000 ISO 400 Focal Length40mm (60mm in 35mm) http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2020867290_jd6NcCt/Medium ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: But improved autofocus will be even nicer. If it's truly a step up, the K5 IIs will take the lead spot ahead of my K5, and the current backup, a K7, will go on ebay. I recognize that I tend to take photos in conditions that are a bit more challenging than most people face. I've spent the past couple of days going through my photos from last weekend. I'd say that I lost the most shots through mis-focus. Unfortunately I can't easily tell in lightroom which were manual and which were auto focus. The biggest camera change to improve my keeper ratio would probably be more focus points, each one restricted to a narrower range. I lost several photos because the camera focused on someone closer to the camera that was just barely in the frame. Then, of course, there is the ongoing problem with focusing on the microphone. Use single point autofocus. For singers with microphones use the top spot and place it right on the eyeball when you squeeze the trigger halfway down. For dancers, you probably want to use the second one down on verticals and put it on the head. When shooting horizontals, you can use the upper left of upper right and put it on the head of one of the two dancers. Once you get used to using single spots, you can switch back and forth rapidly with your thumb. That being said, a narrower range and more points would be nice, even when using single point. Beyond that, faster accurate focus in stupid low light would really help. Dancers just are not considerate enough to only move perpendicular to the line of focus. One feature that would really help me would be different exposure metering modes, one where I could say to not meter on the bright back lighting, another, where it would ignore dark backgrounds (though that is more a lightroom issue). You already have that. It's called exposure com. If you don't want it to meter on the bright background, give it a plus one stop or more. If you don't want it to meter on the dark background, minus the exposure. I mostly just shoot manual exposure anyways, but sometimes when people are moving around from light to dark areas, I don't have that luxury and have to go to TAv. There were also a bunch of pictures that weren't lost per se, but were rougher than I'd like because in order to have a fast enough shutter speed for lindy hop, I was shooting in the ISO 12,800-25,600 range. An 8MP sensor with the latest technology would do me more good than a 24MP sensor. Well done mirrorless technology could alleviate a lot of my problems. Without the mirrorbox and needing retrofocus lenses, I could get faster wide lenses. When focus is an issue, a sharp 30/1.4 on APS would do me more good than a FF 50/1.4. Likewise, for manually focusing in the dark, liveview, and I imagine focus peaking , would be an immense aid. However, most of these things would make no difference to a landscape photographer. Sure, fast wide glass would be nice, but it's not as big of an issue if you have a tripod. Ralf's probably the only one crazy enough to shoot landscapes at night. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT interesting development in the patent wars
Motorola asks the ITC to ban almost every Apple device: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/motorola-asks-itc-to-ban-every-mac-ipad-and-most-iphones/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: One feature that would really help me would be different exposure metering modes, one where I could say to not meter on the bright back lighting, another, where it would ignore dark backgrounds (though that is more a lightroom issue). You already have that. It's called exposure com. If you don't want it to meter on the bright background, give it a plus one stop or more. If you don't want it to meter on the dark background, minus the exposure. Then there's the spot-metering exposure mode. That's been available for a while too. :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:PESO - Not Aung San Suu Kyi
I like the photo but I wonder if my reaction or critical senses would be different if I did not know that it was a phone pic. I also wonder if it would differ somehow if it was taken with Q or 4/3 camera. Not why you posted I know. So nice portrait of concentration. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 13 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:54:56 +1000 From: John Coylejco...@iinet.net.au To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Not Aung San Suu Kyi Message-ID:002901cd962b$4bf21990$e3d64cb0$@iinet.net.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Taken while having a coffee and waiting for my granddaughter to finish work. http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@iinet.net.au/PESO_011.html One of the few I've taken on my smartphone, having no other camera with me. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunset cycle
The long shadow of Dad conjures up a series of metaphors. Nice work. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 4 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:17:46 -0700 From: Tim Braytb...@textuality.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Sunset cycle Message-ID: cahbu6isrmt-6cnugjqrj2bnwrghp8pzv4avautevmmydos2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pic athttp://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/-big/RUNE6125.jpg.html Bloggage athttp://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/Bicycle-shadow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
Paul and Bruce have given great advice. You also might find it helpful to de-couple focus from the shutter button and use the back focus button. Once you focus on something, the camera will stay focused at that distance, eliminating the camera's need to re-focus every time you touch the shutter button. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: One feature that would really help me would be different exposure metering modes, one where I could say to not meter on the bright back lighting, another, where it would ignore dark backgrounds (though that is more a lightroom issue). You already have that. It's called exposure com. If you don't want it to meter on the bright background, give it a plus one stop or more. If you don't want it to meter on the dark background, minus the exposure. Then there's the spot-metering exposure mode. That's been available for a while too. :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Fire Evacuation
that's bad news - hope it stays well away from your house. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 19 September 2012 20:24 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Fire Evacuation Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated- 170286736.html -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fire Evacuation
Tom, Be safe, hope they strike it. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fire Evacuation
on 2012-09-19 13:24 Tom C wrote Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. be sure to get out before it gets at all tight, and let firefighters know you are there -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items ondisplay.
Has anyone suggested focussing manually? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of George Sinos Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:10 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items ondisplay. Paul and Bruce have given great advice. You also might find it helpful to de-couple focus from the shutter button and use the back focus button. Once you focus on something, the camera will stay focused at that distance, eliminating the camera's need to re-focus every time you touch the shutter button. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: One feature that would really help me would be different exposure metering modes, one where I could say to not meter on the bright back lighting, another, where it would ignore dark backgrounds (though that is more a lightroom issue). You already have that. It's called exposure com. If you don't want it to meter on the bright background, give it a plus one stop or more. If you don't want it to meter on the dark background, minus the exposure. Then there's the spot-metering exposure mode. That's been available for a while too. :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fire Evacuation
Be safe Tom. My prayers are with you and your family Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: OT: Fire Evacuation Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fire Evacuation
Hoping you're all safe and stay so. Will add my wish for all worldly goods (especially CAMERAS) are saved. Am, seriously, hoping to read soon that it's over and that all folks, pets and good are safe. Jack - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:24 PM Subject: OT: Fire Evacuation Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
Wed Sep 19 15:31:43 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: Beyond that, faster accurate focus in stupid low light would really help. Dancers just are not considerate enough to only move perpendicular to the line of focus. I feel for you Larry! Those damn dancers! Shoot them! ;-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com Wed Sep 19 15:31:43 EDT 2012 On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: But improved autofocus will be even nicer. If it's truly a step up, the K5 IIs will take the lead spot ahead of my K5, and the current backup, a K7, will go on ebay. I recognize that I tend to take photos in conditions that are a bit more challenging than most people face. I've spent the past couple of days going through my photos from last weekend. I'd say that I lost the most shots through mis-focus. Unfortunately I can't easily tell in lightroom which were manual and which were auto focus. The biggest camera change to improve my keeper ratio would probably be more focus points, each one restricted to a narrower range. I lost several photos because the camera focused on someone closer to the camera that was just barely in the frame. Then, of course, there is the ongoing problem with focusing on the microphone. Often suggested technique to deal with those cases is to set the AF to use the central point. That can be done for centered objects or for static ones even when they are off center (AF, hold, reframe). That can work for shooting single musicians who are more steady, and/or typically are in the middle of the frame. The problem with that when you are shooting dancing couples is that in many cases, the central AF point is right between the dancers. A possible work-around that is that you switch AF to a point that you choose off center, where you expect one of the two to be. This is not universal and requires switching (so it is not suitable if you are trying to shoot several couples within one song), but it is good, e.g. when you are trying to get a good shot of a particular couple and taking a series of their shots with simillar framing and camera orientation. I've done this with *istDS, and it seemingly worked. I haven't done it much with K7, as its frame-based AF engine improved drastically. But I am considering using that again at some events. Beyond that, faster accurate focus in stupid low light would really help. Dancers just are not considerate enough to only move perpendicular to the line of focus. I feel for you Larry! Those damn dancers! Shoot them! ;-) One feature that would really help me would be different exposure metering modes, one where I could say to not meter on the bright back lighting, another, where it would ignore dark backgrounds (though that is more a lightroom issue). I mostly just shoot manual exposure anyways, but sometimes when people are moving around from light to dark areas, I don't have that luxury and have to go to TAv. When there is a large variation of the light throughout the frame, and the camera either cannot cover the full dynamic range, or you don't care for the extreme parts of it (direct light, dark background shadows), you can try a very similar technique as described in relation to AF above: use the central point metering. I haven't tried it myself yet, but in principle you can couple the metering and the AF points (in the menu), - and use the same approach for dancers who are off-center. You can play with that when not on assignment. :-) There were also a bunch of pictures that weren't lost per se, but were rougher than I'd like because in order to have a fast enough shutter speed for lindy hop, I was shooting in the ISO 12,800-25,600 range. An 8MP sensor with the latest technology would do me more good than a 24MP sensor. I think you mean that the noise level from a larger pixel is lower. I didn't think about it in full depth, but I would assume that averaging the signal, say, 3 adjacent pixels while downsampling from 24 MP to 8 MP, if done correctly from the RAW format, should produce close, if not equivalent result. It might, actually, produce even a better result under certain conditions (that's my guess only). But then the question is whether the software you are using (e.g. LR) is doing a good job in averaging those pixels in a right way in the process of downsampling. After all, - you see a similar noise-smoothing effect on a 900pxx600px image, where the noise is not that pronounced. Well done mirrorless technology could alleviate a lot of my problems. Without the mirrorbox and needing retrofocus lenses, I could get faster wide lenses. When focus is an issue, a sharp 30/1.4 on APS would do me more good than a FF 50/1.4. Likewise, for manually focusing in the dark, liveview, and I imagine focus peaking , would be an immense aid. I am not sure what you mean by retrofocus. Are you talking about the crop-factor of the lenses on FF and APS? If that guess is correct, it's just a question of the sensor size on the mirroless camera, not the fact that it is mirrorless. I suspect I am just not understanding what you are trying to say here about the mirrorless. Best, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
RE: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items ondisplay.
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell Has anyone suggested focussing manually? The man who suggested focussing manually: http://www.hmbateman.com/images/watermarked/13_royal_enclosure.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sax Solo
Point well taken, Frank. This group was playing cool jazz. Great stuff, to my taste, but not the kind of music that results in animated performers. I loved his performance, and he looked like a cool guy, so I liked this image. On reflection, I will admit that it lacks much interest. Thanks for looking and commenting. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:51 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I must be brutally honest here: that is a rather static and undynamic (if that's a word) photo. And to me that's always a difficulty shooting jazz. The guy can be blowing the most amazing Coltranesque solo and be standing stock-still staring into space (as this guy seems to be doing). Sometimes they will get into it physically but that can be hard to capture as well as that can be sporadic and unpredictable. Some are physically gesturing all the time, but my guess is that this player isn't one of them. ;-) So, whatever the reason, I have to say that this is unfortunately a fairly uninspiring photo of a musician who was likely playing amazing music - but not showing the outward indicators of it. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Sax Solo http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16469093 Comments are always welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
You mean like a 645D? J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - If your gonna put a fixed lens on a camera, why not have the sensor even bigger than 24x36? Quality could increase substantially -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
On Sep 19, 2012, at 2:01 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: You mean like a 645D? Oops, didn't notice the fixed lens bit until after I hit send. J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - If your gonna put a fixed lens on a camera, why not have the sensor even bigger than 24x36? Quality could increase substantially -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Fire Evacuation
Glad to hear all are safely evacuated. You must now keep yourself safe! My thoughts are with you and all in your community. Take care, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Sent: September 19, 2012 9/19/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Fire Evacuation Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens
On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 24:02 , Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: I use filters! When I did the construction shoot a while back, I was glad I was a filter-girl. One of those little trucks would come zooming by and soon enough I and my cameras were covered head to toe in dirt-dust, and, of course, tiny rock particles would fly about as well. One dinged my B + W polarizing filter real nice, but thankfully the pesky little rock particle didn't get the front element. Maybe a super-high-buck expensive filter wouldn't have done that, but… hard hoods, keeping the camera in the bag, and capping the lenses when they're not actually mounted to the camera seems to have been doing the trick for the past 10 years for me. What is it with people and looking for a one size fits all answer. Asking whether or not to use a protective filter is like asking whether or not to use a zoom lens. There are cases where going one way will lead to problems, there are also cases where going the other way will lead to problems, and the vast majority of the time it doesn't make much difference. The UV filter on my lens is kind of like wearing a helmet when I ride my bicycle. I don't always wear a helmet, and I've only actually used a bike helmet once. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO- I believe I can fly
On 9/19/12 12:41 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Aww, that’s so sweet. Lovely. -T Thank you, Tim. er, I mean, +1. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Fire Evacuation
From: Tom C Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html I hope it spares you and your neighbors. Shame about how it started. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso: Downburst, Northern Buffalo County, Nebraska, (7/28/2012)
No they haven't. We've had heavy rain thunderstorms at least twice a week here in Raleigh since National Severe Weather Preparedness Week back in April. From: Don Guthrie Looks a lot like Iowa all summer. Have you guys been keeping all the rain for yourselves? pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:58 PM Subject: Peso: Downburst, Northern Buffalo County, Nebraska (7/28/2012) Didn't spend a lot of time on this one, but hope you like it nonetheless. It was one of the rare brief storms of the summer and I had to rush about 20 miles to catch it as it died is big exhale of wind, hail, and brief hard rain. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8001420606/lightbox/ Comments and evicerations welcome in equal measure. Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 on Pentax K-5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT interesting development in the patent wars
From: Larry Colen Motorola asks the ITC to ban almost every Apple device: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/motorola-asks-itc-to-ban-every-mac-ipad-and-most-iphones/ Sew the wind, reap the whirlwind. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
On Sep 19, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: But improved autofocus will be even nicer. If it's truly a step up, the K5 IIs will take the lead spot ahead of my K5, and the current backup, a K7, will go on ebay. I recognize that I tend to take photos in conditions that are a bit more challenging than most people face. I've spent the past couple of days going through my photos from last weekend. I'd say that I lost the most shots through mis-focus. Unfortunately I can't easily tell in lightroom which were manual and which were auto focus. The biggest camera change to improve my keeper ratio would probably be more focus points, each one restricted to a narrower range. I lost several photos because the camera focused on someone closer to the camera that was just barely in the frame. Then, of course, there is the ongoing problem with focusing on the microphone. Use single point autofocus. For singers with microphones use the top spot and place it right on the eyeball when you squeeze the trigger halfway down. For dancers, you probably want to use the second one down on verticals and put it on the head. When shooting horizontals, you can use the upper left of upper right and put it on the head of one of the two dancers. Once you get used to using single spots, you can switch back and forth rapidly with your thumb. To a first approximation, that is the only way that I use autofocus. Sometimes on the center, and recompose, sometimes I pick a point off of center for rule of thirds composition. I seem to have gotten into some difficulty on a few shots, where I rotated the camera for a vertical composition and didn't adjust the focus point from being in the lower third to the upper third and the camera did a great job of focusing on the feet rather than the face. Who knew that there was enough angle that it would make a difference? Well, I do now. Also, George, what I do is pretty much the opposite of what you suggest. I have the AF button set to disable auto focus. I set focus with half a shutter press, then use my thumb to hold focus. As to focusing manually, I often do so. I find the split prism focusing screen invaluable for that. Especially with my non-autofocus lenses. I've also found that in low light, low contrast, situations, manually focusing with the screen is nearly impossible, and in almost every case, if autofocus will work, and it happens to focus on the right thing, it is both faster and more accurate than manually focusing. What I frequently do in situations where the light is too low for either normal manual focus, or autofocus, is to put the camera in live view, maybe use the info button to zoom in, and manually focus that way. Unfortunately, it takes so long to take a picture in live view mode that leaving the camera in live view when shooting action is useless. Even without shutter lag, the visual lag in live view, in low light, is a significant fraction of a second. I have to focus in live view, switch it back to optical, then hope that my subject doesn't move out of focus. I also have to remember to move my face to the camera, rather than move my camera to my face, or I'll front focus by 10-20 cm. That being said, a narrower range and more points would be nice, even when using single point. Beyond that, faster accurate focus in stupid low light would really help. Dancers just are not considerate enough to only move perpendicular to the line of focus. One feature that would really help me would be different exposure metering modes, one where I could say to not meter on the bright back lighting, another, where it would ignore dark backgrounds (though that is more a lightroom issue). You already have that. It's called exposure com. If you don't want it to meter on the bright background, give it a plus one stop or more. If you don't want it to meter on the dark background, minus the exposure. If the background were consistent, and exposure compensation would work, I could just set the exposure manually and leave it be. What I need is to be able to tell the metering to ignore any point that is above (or below) a certain EV. A case that I run into often is photographing dancers, or martial artists, in a room where the light source is often, but not always, in the frame of the picture, and there is nothing that I can do about it. The light source is where it is, I am where I am, and the subject moves around. I'm going to pull numbers out of the air, I don't know what EV actually relates to how much light. I don't use a manual meter enough for that. Sometimes the light is falling on the subject and they might be at EV 7, sometimes they have their back to the light and they are at EV 3, and the light is EV 17. What I need is to tell
Re: PESO: Sunset cycle
Very nice Dave On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Pic at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/-big/RUNE6125.jpg.html Bloggage at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/Bicycle-shadow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Downburst, Northern Buffalo County, Nebraska (7/28/2012)
Captured very well. Dave On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't spend a lot of time on this one, but hope you like it nonetheless. It was one of the rare brief storms of the summer and I had to rush about 20 miles to catch it as it died is big exhale of wind, hail, and brief hard rain. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8001420606/lightbox/ Comments and evicerations welcome in equal measure. Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 on Pentax K-5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus
Ann. Thats one of your finest shots IMNSHO Dave On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: waiting for the proof copy of my new calendar... this isn't in it :-) Took this a couple of months ago Ist-D with the kit DA18-55 f/6.7 at 1/3000 ISO 400 Focal Length40mm (60mm in 35mm) http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2020867290_jd6NcCt/Medium ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Up
That is quite nice Dave On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/234-up Q, 01 lens, 30s, f2.8 Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - iAudience
Well done. Love the composition and facials here. Dave On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: One of the sidewalk troubadours at Shop The Shore last Saturday ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000110049/in/photostream/lightbox/ K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 43mm/f:14, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600 Lr 4.1, Silver Efex Pro 2.0 Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Ragtime John
Great Dave On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Another street troubadour: Ragtime John Layton. With his antique resonator he didn't need an amp. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000832205/lightbox/ K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 35mm/f:5.6, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600 Lr 4.1, Silver Efex Pro 2.0 Still polishing my BW workflow; comments appreciated. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina opens nothing beyond the already announced items on display.
On Sep 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com Wed Sep 19 15:31:43 EDT 2012 On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Often suggested technique to deal with those cases is to set the AF to use the central point. That can be done for centered objects or for static ones even when they are off center (AF, hold, reframe). That can work for shooting single musicians who are more steady, and/or typically are in the middle of the frame. The problem with that when you are shooting dancing couples is that in many cases, the central AF point is right between the dancers. A possible work-around that is that you switch AF to a point that you choose off center, where you expect one of the two to be. This is not universal and requires switching (so it is not suitable if you are trying to shoot several couples within one song), but it is good, e.g. when you are trying to get a good shot of a particular couple and taking a series of their shots with simillar framing and camera orientation. This is pretty much exactly what I do. Beyond that, faster accurate focus in stupid low light would really help. Dancers just are not considerate enough to only move perpendicular to the line of focus. I feel for you Larry! Those damn dancers! Shoot them! ;-) I had the feeling that you would know exactly what I'm dealing with. And lindy hop, as you know, is even worse than tango or blues. One feature that would really help me would be different exposure metering modes, one where I could say to not meter on the bright back lighting, another, where it would ignore dark backgrounds (though that is more a lightroom issue). I mostly just shoot manual exposure anyways, but sometimes when people are moving around from light to dark areas, I don't have that luxury and have to go to TAv. When there is a large variation of the light throughout the frame, and the camera either cannot cover the full dynamic range, or you don't care for the extreme parts of it (direct light, dark background shadows), you can try a very similar technique as described in relation to AF above: use the central point metering. I haven't tried it myself yet, but in principle you can couple the metering and the AF points (in the menu), - and use the same approach for dancers who are off-center. You can play with that when not on assignment. :-) My camera is set to lock AE with AF point. There were also a bunch of pictures that weren't lost per se, but were rougher than I'd like because in order to have a fast enough shutter speed for lindy hop, I was shooting in the ISO 12,800-25,600 range. An 8MP sensor with the latest technology would do me more good than a 24MP sensor. I think you mean that the noise level from a larger pixel is lower. Lower noise, more DR. I didn't think about it in full depth, but I would assume that averaging the signal, say, 3 adjacent pixels while downsampling from 24 MP to 8 MP, if done correctly from the RAW format, should produce close, if not equivalent result. It might, actually, produce even a better result under certain conditions (that's my guess only). I think that may work. But then the question is whether the software you are using (e.g. LR) is doing a good job in averaging those pixels in a right way in the process of downsampling. That is an important question. And one I don't know the answer to. After all, - you see a similar noise-smoothing effect on a 900pxx600px image, where the noise is not that pronounced. Well done mirrorless technology could alleviate a lot of my problems. Without the mirrorbox and needing retrofocus lenses, I could get faster wide lenses. When focus is an issue, a sharp 30/1.4 on APS would do me more good than a FF 50/1.4. Likewise, for manually focusing in the dark, liveview, and I imagine focus peaking , would be an immense aid. I am not sure what you mean by retrofocus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide-angle_lens If the registration distance is greater than the focal length, you need extra elements to move the focus point back to the sensor (film). Are you talking about the crop-factor of the lenses on FF and APS? If that guess is correct, it's just a question of the sensor size on the mirroless camera, not the fact that it is mirrorless. I suspect I am just not understanding what you are trying to say here about the mirrorless. With a mirrorless camera, you don't have to have the rear element far enough from the sensor for the mirror to swing up out of the way. In theory, the rear element could be practically touching the the sensor. This is why my friend Marco has a 25mm f/0.95 lens for his u4/3 camera, and for camera systems based on 35mm SLRs there aren't a lot (any?) really sharp lenses shorter than 30mm and faster than f/1.8, though reasonably sharp 50/1.4 lenses are so common as to have been almost the default.
Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens
On Sep 19, 2012, at 2:28 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Well, first of all, Larry, you're not most people. Neither are most list members. But that doesn't stop people on the PDML from arguing that their size should fit everyone. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
NO, I mean a fixed lens digital camera with very large sensor - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of l...@red4est.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:01 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36? You mean like a 645D? J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - If your gonna put a fixed lens on a camera, why not have the sensor even bigger than 24x36? Quality could increase substantially -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fire Evacuation
On Sep 19, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Tom C wrote: Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. Ouch! Too much excitement! I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. Good luck. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Please keep us posted. I didn't realize you lived near Boise. I have several other friends in the area, including one that is often playing with old warbirds. Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. I did a double take when I saw that, as it's the same .sig I use on my phone. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen On Sep 19, 2012, at 2:28 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Well, first of all, Larry, you're not most people. Neither are most list members. But that doesn't stop people on the PDML from arguing that their size should fit everyone. I don't think they do. I think they say This is what I do, and this is why I do it that way. It's one of the reasons the list doesn't collapse into flame wars very often. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I had a great idea, too bad that it didn't work
The dance venue for the evening dances at SFLX had the lights turned way down. Not only did this make photographing dancers dancing to fast music a challenge, but it brought the color temperature way down below the 2000K that lightroom will adjust for. In the past, I've cheated by exporting my finished lightroom file as a tiff, reimporting it, and then setting the color balance on the intermediate file, thereby expanding the adjustment range of lightroom. Realizing that the adjustment brush will also adjust color balance, I hoped I could add a bit more temperature adjustment by using that on top of the adjustment for the whole frame. No joy, it only seems to work within the parameters which I already have maxed out. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
Like a digital version of a Fujifilm GSW 6x7 or 6x9 camera? That would be swt Mark On 9/19/2012 5:48 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: NO, I mean a fixed lens digital camera with very large sensor - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of l...@red4est.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:01 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36? You mean like a 645D? J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - If your gonna put a fixed lens on a camera, why not have the sensor even bigger than 24x36? Quality could increase substantially -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs Hale at SFLX
That first portrait is delicious. -T On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: This musician is a little prettier than the last from head: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001992852/ to toe: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001990121/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
I wasnt thinking that large of sensor, but its a good idea if cost wasnt prohibitive for the sensor alone... - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:34 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36? Like a digital version of a Fujifilm GSW 6x7 or 6x9 camera? That would be swt Mark On 9/19/2012 5:48 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: NO, I mean a fixed lens digital camera with very large sensor - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of l...@red4est.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:01 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36? You mean like a 645D? J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - If your gonna put a fixed lens on a camera, why not have the sensor even bigger than 24x36? Quality could increase substantially -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs Hale at SFLX
On Sep 19, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Tim Bray wrote: That first portrait is delicious. -T Thank you. It helps that the subject is rather yummy to start with. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: This musician is a little prettier than the last from head: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001992852/ to toe: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8001990121/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Like a digital version of a Fujifilm GSW 6x7 or 6x9 camera? That would be swt It would be grand, but it would be very very costly. A big sensor like that is the most expensive component of the camera. I'd love a true 6x6 digital camera with a 75 mm lens. The available, new film cameras (Fuji GF670 $1600, or Voigtländer Bessa III $2995, or Rolleiflex TLR $5500) are already a great deal of money. Add a $10,000 sensor/data system package ... Eventually, someone will make it, I'm sure. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I had a great idea, too bad that it didn't work
You can get more out of those image files by using the Adobe DNG Profile Editor and creating a customized camera calibration profile to bring the values into ACR/Lightroom's operating adjustment range. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The dance venue for the evening dances at SFLX had the lights turned way down. Not only did this make photographing dancers dancing to fast music a challenge, but it brought the color temperature way down below the 2000K that lightroom will adjust for. In the past, I've cheated by exporting my finished lightroom file as a tiff, reimporting it, and then setting the color balance on the intermediate file, thereby expanding the adjustment range of lightroom. Realizing that the adjustment brush will also adjust color balance, I hoped I could add a bit more temperature adjustment by using that on top of the adjustment for the whole frame. No joy, it only seems to work within the parameters which I already have maxed out. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I had a great idea, too bad that it didn't work
On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can get more out of those image files by using the Adobe DNG Profile Editor and creating a customized camera calibration profile to bring the values into ACR/Lightroom's operating adjustment range. Can you post a link to some good written directions on how to do that? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The dance venue for the evening dances at SFLX had the lights turned way down. Not only did this make photographing dancers dancing to fast music a challenge, but it brought the color temperature way down below the 2000K that lightroom will adjust for. In the past, I've cheated by exporting my finished lightroom file as a tiff, reimporting it, and then setting the color balance on the intermediate file, thereby expanding the adjustment range of lightroom. Realizing that the adjustment brush will also adjust color balance, I hoped I could add a bit more temperature adjustment by using that on top of the adjustment for the whole frame. No joy, it only seems to work within the parameters which I already have maxed out. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
As long as the megapixels arent too great, say 24MP, I dont know why a larger sensor is more expensive to make, it should be cheaper than a small one intuitively. limiting the resolution would keep cost down while still allowing for many advantages of larger format sensor. Another cool camera would be a digital version of the 6x17. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Like a digital version of a Fujifilm GSW 6x7 or 6x9 camera? That would be swt It would be grand, but it would be very very costly. A big sensor like that is the most expensive component of the camera. I'd love a true 6x6 digital camera with a 75 mm lens. The available, new film cameras (Fuji GF670 $1600, or Voigtländer Bessa III $2995, or Rolleiflex TLR $5500) are already a great deal of money. Add a $10,000 sensor/data system package ... Eventually, someone will make it, I'm sure. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT interesting development in the patent wars
Interesting that they should ask for a ban on sales of hardware, based on a software patent. I guess that is just an ambit claim unless there is something at the hardware level that actually infringes the patent. FWIW the Australian government science body, CSIRO, sued all of the big hardware manufacturers over a wifi patent and one by one they settled. I can't remember the details but it was an algorithm developed for radio telescopes and was fundamental to how wifi works. Paul On 20/09/2012, at 5:55 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Motorola asks the ITC to ban almost every Apple device: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/motorola-asks-itc-to-ban-every-mac-ipad-and-most-iphones/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I had a great idea, too bad that it didn't work
I learned everything I know about it from the Adobe pages and from using it: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:FAQ http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:Editor On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can get more out of those image files by using the Adobe DNG Profile Editor and creating a customized camera calibration profile to bring the values into ACR/Lightroom's operating adjustment range. Can you post a link to some good written directions on how to do that? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The dance venue for the evening dances at SFLX had the lights turned way down. Not only did this make photographing dancers dancing to fast music a challenge, but it brought the color temperature way down below the 2000K that lightroom will adjust for. In the past, I've cheated by exporting my finished lightroom file as a tiff, reimporting it, and then setting the color balance on the intermediate file, thereby expanding the adjustment range of lightroom. Realizing that the adjustment brush will also adjust color balance, I hoped I could add a bit more temperature adjustment by using that on top of the adjustment for the whole frame. No joy, it only seems to work within the parameters which I already have maxed out. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
It's not the sensel density, it's the chip size. The larger the chip, the fewer that you can fit onto standardized silicon wafers. Since the defect rate is fairly constant across a wafer, having larger chips means that you have fewer chips per wafer, and with the defect rate, a smaller percentage of usable chips. That's the reason why MFD is so expensive. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:11 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: As long as the megapixels arent too great, say 24MP, I dont know why a larger sensor is more expensive to make, it should be cheaper than a small one intuitively. limiting the resolution would keep cost down while still allowing for many advantages of larger format sensor. Another cool camera would be a digital version of the 6x17. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Like a digital version of a Fujifilm GSW 6x7 or 6x9 camera? That would be swt It would be grand, but it would be very very costly. A big sensor like that is the most expensive component of the camera. I'd love a true 6x6 digital camera with a 75 mm lens. The available, new film cameras (Fuji GF670 $1600, or Voigtländer Bessa III $2995, or Rolleiflex TLR $5500) are already a great deal of money. Add a $10,000 sensor/data system package ... Eventually, someone will make it, I'm sure. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:11 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: As long as the megapixels arent too great, say 24MP, I dont know why a larger sensor is more expensive to make, it should be cheaper than a small one intuitively. limiting the resolution would keep cost down while still allowing for many advantages of larger format sensor. The probability of errors is proportional to the area of the chip. If there is a 1% chance of an error on any square centimeter, and you can put 150 1cm^2 sensors on a wafer, but only 10 10cm^2 on a singe round wafer, you'll get about 135 1cm^2 sensors, and 10*(.9^10) 10cm^2 sensors. In short, out of each wafer you'll get fewer sensors, and each sensor will have a much higher chance of failure. Then there is the economy of scale issue, the development of an APS sensor is amortized over millions of units, a MF sensor is amortized over thousands of units. Another cool camera would be a digital version of the 6x17. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Like a digital version of a Fujifilm GSW 6x7 or 6x9 camera? That would be swt It would be grand, but it would be very very costly. A big sensor like that is the most expensive component of the camera. I'd love a true 6x6 digital camera with a 75 mm lens. The available, new film cameras (Fuji GF670 $1600, or Voigtländer Bessa III $2995, or Rolleiflex TLR $5500) are already a great deal of money. Add a $10,000 sensor/data system package ... Eventually, someone will make it, I'm sure. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
Wow, you said it in English, I was lazy and said it in math. On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:22 PM, David Parsons wrote: It's not the sensel density, it's the chip size. The larger the chip, the fewer that you can fit onto standardized silicon wafers. Since the defect rate is fairly constant across a wafer, having larger chips means that you have fewer chips per wafer, and with the defect rate, a smaller percentage of usable chips. That's the reason why MFD is so expensive. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:11 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: As long as the megapixels arent too great, say 24MP, I dont know why a larger sensor is more expensive to make, it should be cheaper than a small one intuitively. limiting the resolution would keep cost down while still allowing for many advantages of larger format sensor. Another cool camera would be a digital version of the 6x17. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Like a digital version of a Fujifilm GSW 6x7 or 6x9 camera? That would be swt It would be grand, but it would be very very costly. A big sensor like that is the most expensive component of the camera. I'd love a true 6x6 digital camera with a 75 mm lens. The available, new film cameras (Fuji GF670 $1600, or Voigtländer Bessa III $2995, or Rolleiflex TLR $5500) are already a great deal of money. Add a $10,000 sensor/data system package ... Eventually, someone will make it, I'm sure. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dog Boy
On 9/13/2012 9:58 PM, frank theriault wrote: Not sure about his painted face: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/dog-boy.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank LOL - cute shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: 3rd Alaska Coastal Image
Awoke one morning the first thing I saw was the attached scene. Taken in Glacier Bay on the way to the Johns Hopkins Glacier http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16470662 Comments appreciated. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fixed lens digital cameras : Why not go larger than 24x36?
On 20 September 2012 10:03, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Like a digital version of a Fujifilm GSW 6x7 or 6x9 camera? That would be swt It would be grand, but it would be very very costly. A big sensor like that is the most expensive component of the camera. I'd love a true 6x6 digital camera with a 75 mm lens. The available, new film cameras (Fuji GF670 $1600, or Voigtländer Bessa III $2995, or Rolleiflex TLR $5500) are already a great deal of money. Add a $10,000 sensor/data system package ... Eventually, someone will make it, I'm sure. Granted, they aren't fixed lens cameras, but in their configuration some of the Alpas are functionally like fixed lens cameras. They don't look like they'd be very handy for quick change of lenses, and extra lenses on their boards would be very UNhandy to carry about. But a set up Alpa looks sweet. I'd love to hit the streets with an Alpa 12 TC, http://www.alpa.ch/en/products/cameras/camera-bodies/alpa-12-tc.html It's got the kind of presence that says, Never mind me, I'm just a photographer going about my business. I'm certainly not a creepy old guy with a big, expensive black camera. regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - from a window of the 103 bus
On 9/18/2012 11:11 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: waiting for the proof copy of my new calendar... this isn't in it :-) Took this a couple of months ago Ist-D with the kit DA18-55 f/6.7 at 1/3000 ISO 400 Focal Length40mm (60mm in 35mm) http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2020867290_jd6NcCt/Medium ann Wow - that is fabulous. Excellent shot, Ann. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 3rd Alaska Coastal Image
An intriguing abstract pattern, Ken. Nicely composed and rendered. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:05 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Awoke one morning the first thing I saw was the attached scene. Taken in Glacier Bay on the way to the Johns Hopkins Glacier http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16470662 Comments appreciated. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fire Evacuation
Keep safe. On 9/19/2012 3:24 PM, Tom C wrote: Evacuated self, people, pets, pictures, computers, cameras, other important items of sentimental value yesterday @ 7:30 AM. I'm currently here in case I need to fell a couple of trees near the house. No flames in sight. Fire's on other side of ridge about a mile away. Everyone is safe. As Karney Fire grows, more homes evacuated Tom C. http://www.ktvb.com/home/As-Karney-Fire-grows-more-people-evacuated-170286736.html -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunset cycle
That is quite macroscian! Good photography also. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Pic at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/-big/RUNE6125.jpg.html Bloggage at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/09/19/Bicycle-shadow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT interesting development in the patent wars
A lot of hardware is dependent on the firmware imbedded in to function, more true 15 years ago than today, with a lot of hardware entirely dependent on software to function at all. On 9/19/2012 8:19 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: Interesting that they should ask for a ban on sales of hardware, based on a software patent. I guess that is just an ambit claim unless there is something at the hardware level that actually infringes the patent. FWIW the Australian government science body, CSIRO, sued all of the big hardware manufacturers over a wifi patent and one by one they settled. I can't remember the details but it was an algorithm developed for radio telescopes and was fundamental to how wifi works. Paul On 20/09/2012, at 5:55 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Motorola asks the ITC to ban almost every Apple device: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/motorola-asks-itc-to-ban-every-mac-ipad-and-most-iphones/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
