Caveman wrote:
C Any info on the 100/3.5 macro that could decide me to
C go in favor of the FA 135/2.8 ?
Yes, the 100/3.5 is the ugliest piece of crap that ever carried the
Pentax name. The feeling of cheap was amazing even when I hold it
side by side with the FA 28-70/4 - until then
Alin Flaider schrieb:
Caveman wrote:
C Any info on the 100/3.5 macro that could decide me to
C go in favor of the FA 135/2.8 ?
Yes, the 100/3.5 is the ugliest piece of crap that ever carried the
Pentax name.
Ha ha, true. But this is due to the fact that Cosina builds it.
However,
Arnold wrote:
Boz, you keep repeating the same wrong speculation, so I will quote
again what Pentax USA writes:
This is what they write on the *ist: Usable lenses - Pentax KAF2-(power
zoom not available), KAF-, KA- and K-mount lenses (Autofocus possible
with KA- and K-mount lenses using
Th. Stach schrieb:
Alin Flaider schrieb:
Caveman wrote:
C Any info on the 100/3.5 macro that could decide me to
C go in favor of the FA 135/2.8 ?
Yes, the 100/3.5 is the ugliest piece of crap that ever carried the
Pentax name.
Ha ha, true. But this is due to the fact
OK; http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/flower.html
Thx! :)
BTW what kind of film did you use? I like the shades of purple near the
top edges of the flower.
Sensia 100.
regards,
Alan Chan
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Hi Arnold,
on 10 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
Let's go to CeBit and put an end to all this speculation!
Good idea! I might be there on thursday (13.), but that's not sure at
the moment. Anyone else?
Cheers, Heiko
Heiko Hamann schrieb:
Hi Arnold,
on 10 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
Let's go to CeBit and put an end to all this speculation!
Good idea! I might be there on thursday (13.), but that's not sure at
the moment. Anyone else?
Are students cards or cards for university members
Hi Thomas,
on 11 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
Are students cards or cards for university members available?
Yes. All prices can be found here: http://www.cebit.de/21541
Cheers, Heiko
Hi,
1. Did we decide a date/location finally?
2. Did our couch surfer possibilities come to a decision on
participation?
mike
making plans for the summer.
Come on, K mount compatibility is one of the very few Pentax
trumps, and they need to play them all. Even if few posses both old
lenses and new equipment Pentax still has to proclaim loud and
clear our dslr takes whatever glass caries the Pentax name!.
Until they come up with
Hi!
I am trying to send you some e-mail off list. I've tried both
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses, but it keeps
bouncing back like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mail.safe-t.net[209.57.215.7]
said: 501
unacceptable mail address
I would appreciate if you provided me with
I have found that it's very difficult to shoot birds in the wild with
anything less than an 800. Sure, at a backyard bird feeder, you can get
closer. But pictures of birds at the feeder get tedious in a hurry. I
frequently shoot birds in wooded areas where some of the best shots find
them high off
All the bird people I know who take good bird pictures use very long lenses.
Its not an easy task to get halfway up a tall tree to take a picture of an
eagle or an owl. They tend to bugger off pretty fast when people approach
and start crashing about in the branches. Also the bird watching
On 10 Mar 2003 at 23:42, Ryan K. Brooks wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/10/03 11:17:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm not sure I follow you here, but it's probably just me. If you want
to get an IS lens, certainly Canon are presently the folks with the goods.
Why would you want a sharp portrait lens anyway ?
Well, ~I~ like sharp portraits, as a rule. My subjects don't always
like 'em, so I have to be flexible. However (as has been said here
before on the PDML when discussing portrait lenses), you can always
soften a sharp lens, but you just can't
BTW, one of the things I recall from a respected former pdml member -
Roberto Burgos - is that he highly valued his FA 135/2.8, both for
optics and AF.
Anybody know if he is still shooting? I miss his PUG contributions. Bob S.
Hi everybody,
Startled by a recent mention of bodies unable to precisely set the
diaphragm aperture, I conducted a small test to see for myself. Not
that I care much as I set the aperture from the lens most of the
time, but I wanted to know how reliable exposure is for those rare
Bruce wrote:
I'm beginning to strongly suspect a bit of translation/terminology
confusion going on here. What was originally meant in Japanese may not
have properly come through in English. If $300 is the cheapest body to
be sold in the US, then Pentax is dropping the biggest part of
When the shutter release is pressed and the image
is captured, it is immediately sent out the USB port
instead of being storedin memory.
TIA,
Collin
the only ones i know are the top DSLRs that allowed tethered mode of operation. they
don't use USB because it is too slow. either Firewire or SCSI for the really old ones.
USB 2.0 changes the speed equation, but i don't think enough.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: collinb [EMAIL
LOL. Depends how you define 'civilisation'.
that which the English and Japanese practice that the Americans try
to
imitate.
Not true. Americans have long since rejected civilization. The
ratings were too low . . 8^)
Your Message has been carefully placed in it's very own, specially prepared,
luxuriantly hand crafted circular file where it will receive ALL the dignity and
attention it deserves!
And, in case you're too dumb to understand that. It's been placed in the TRASHCAN,
moron!
Later,
Gary
This was my chain of reasoning, and hence I have the FA 100 2.8. It's a
heavy lens, but it's sharp and has a very solid feel. The adjustable
feel of the focus ring is very good for manual work (macro of portrait).
Unless money or weight is a real problem, save up and go for this one.
It
Hi,
1. Did we decide a date/location finally?
2. Did our couch surfer possibilities come to a decision on
participation?
mike
making plans for the summer.
Er sorry Basil, what was the question again???
I'll try to be there. Wherever.
Cotty
Oh, swipe
Hi,
never owning an 85 or similar lens before and been used to several 135
lenses I've had in my bag, I was afraid 77 would be to short. Finally, I've
bought an 77 and boy am I glad I did. Love it. It seems just perfect for
portraits.
Matjaz
They would tempt me with a nice AF portrait
From what I have read (I don't own one), the Kodak DCS-760 can do this.
This camera was expensive before but it has become obsolete and the prices
for used ones should be getting a lot lower. I haven't been searching eBay
for one.
Len
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From: collinb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL
Align
I hate to be the one to toss a rock in your gears but I see an inherent
problem with your theory. On most zoom lenses the f stop changes as you
change the zoom setting. Thus one reason why your testing proved better on
a 50 mm prime. You also list that your test was done successfully on
Hi!
The EOS Rebel Ti 35mm SLR Autofocus Camera Body sells for $240 at BH
(Canon's latest, greatest, current body). If Pentax doesn't have
anything at this, or a lower price, in their line up they're screwed.
Digital PS cameras are irrelevant: they are already the same price as
an entry SLR
BTW cheers - package arrived.
Rob
C'mon Robbo. Spill the beans! What was in the package??
;-)
Cot
Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
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Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
Don't you try to enable me again!
Not me squire. Oooh no. Well, not much anyway. Just think, 200mm F2.8
equivalent with min focus at (gets lens out of box and drools) 70cm.
The 50 was a good purchase though.
Cheers
Peter
Taz wrote:
TIf the zoom is set on the shortest focal length then,
T and only then with the exception of some lenses that claim f stop stays the
T same, the cameras shown f-stop will equal what it says on the aperture ring.
T I guess I would question the accuracy of doing this type of test in this
Alin
How are they running the tests on the PZ-1 and PZ-1p's, which were the
cameras that were specifically mentioned as having this problem originally.
They have depth of field preview, but it is a manual function rather then
electronic, that only works with the aperature ring actually turned to
Seeing as how you've got the Tokina 2.6-2.8 28-70 AT-X Pro, I was hoping
that you could show me some shots taken with said lens or at least offer me
an opinion on your likes/dislikes.
I'm shopping for one currently as I think it's my best option at a sharp
and fast 28-70 that doesn't cost me a
Ghosting is a form of flair.In fact, ghosting is the only form of flair that
can be mitigated by quality lens coatings.
Regards,
Bob
True that some ghosts still have a lot of flair but, joke apart, are
you sure lens coatings only improved ghosting? I think it
contributes to lower flare
Hello
In my quest for a multi-purpose lens I looked through the PEntax
selection.
What I know of this lens that it is extremely rare.
Anybody have one? How is it? How often does one pop up on the market
and what does it cost? Is the zoom push pull or twist the barrel zoom?
Can anyone
On 11 Mar 2003 at 11:52, Gary L. Murphy wrote:
And, in case you're too dumb to understand that. It's been placed in the
TRASHCAN, moron!
Gary,
Before you go throwing responses like this to the list quote some of the
original message or at the very least the author.
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE
On 11 Mar 2003 at 15:56, Andre Langevin wrote:
True that some ghosts still have a lot of flair but, joke apart, are
you sure lens coatings only improved ghosting? I think it
contributes to lower flare level of a lens even if lens
construction is mostly involved. Or have I been mislead by
Anybody have one? How is it? How often does one pop up on the market
and what does it cost? Is the zoom push pull or twist the barrel zoom?
Push pull I think.
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/medium/A35-135f3.5-4.5.html
Can anyone suggest viable alternatives? (don't have to be Pentax,
Starist (film) and BG-20 moved further away to April (mid to end) arrival. Pentax
USA quote.
Optio S - end of March
Burt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting test you got there, Alin.
Just tried it out with my Z-1, and I think it's possible to do with
the Z-1/p too. Here's my method:
Make sure you have no film in the camera.
Turn the f-stop ring to A.
Dial in M-bu mode, and select an aperture with the rear dial (eg.
f/11).
Trip the
I'm new to the board and thought I may help. I thought I saw one at Advance
Camera in Portland, Oregon but after talking with them found out it was an SMC
A 28-135 for $364 on consighnment. He thought it may go for less since it had
been there for a couple of months. They are on the web at
How are they running the tests on the PZ-1 and PZ-1p's, which were the
cameras that were specifically mentioned as having this problem originally.
I think the reason is that the Z-1p is the only body allowed the aperture to
be chosen through the bodies. With program or shutter priority mode, the
Can anyone suggest viable alternatives? (don't have to be Pentax,
only Pentax mount :))
I personally really like the A 28-135/4, and the A 35-105/3.5 is a
good alternative.
Fred
KEH.COM currently has a slew of 35 -105 in A or F mounts and several 35-135
F's. Tom M. ( new member)
Can anyone suggest viable alternatives? (don't have to be Pentax,
only Pentax mount :))
I personally really like the A 28-135/4, and the A 35-105/3.5 is a
good alternative.
Fred
I AGREE WITH THIS 1000% If they do abandon the K
mount on the *ist D, I think it would be a huge
mistake. Not only to current Pentax glass owners, but
non-owners as well. If they do abandon the K mount, I
will abandon Pentax...
--- Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Come on, K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wouldn't shoot them at the feeder. A properly placed branch above the
feeder with the right background and you are off to the races...
I've done that. It can be nice. But I prefer to find birds in their
natural habitat. The hunt is part of the fun.
Paul
My new(to me) FA 75mm f1.4 for the *ist D. The 77 will be too long a
portrait lens on the DSLR to me, so this should replace it nicely.
Looks like that is me committed to a degree now, its not a length I
would normally use on 35mm, despite its 'standard' tag - it is almost
always too short or not
Yeah, thanks.
To anyone considering buying from Sunny Brighton - I say go for it. I
mailed him on Friday agreed a price, phoned on mondya gave the card
details and less than 24 hours later the lens is in my hands. Exactly
as described.
Faultless as always peter - you da man!
-Original
No, I wouldn't call myself a pundit.
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 15:36, Peter Alling wrote:
No, that was Mike.
At 09:53 AM 3/11/2003 -0500, Doug wrote:
Or a pendant.
At 09:48 AM 3/11/03, you wrote:
Hum, my guees was $300, so I was $0.05 off.
$1 = £1.
And you call yourself a pundit. .
What's the general opinion of the above mentioned lens?
thanks
Paul
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One of our local dealers' (Citizen's Photo) salesman was at PMA and handled the
D *ist and said all current lenses would fit as well as the screw mounts. tomM
I AGREE WITH THIS 1000% If they do abandon the K
mount on the *ist D, I think it would be a huge
mistake. Not only to current
How many of you think you have enough equipment?
You may upgrade or transition to another medium or format,
but the quantity and class of hardware suits you.
Who will face the hardest question of all?
:)
Collin..
tut tut tut...
you can NEVER have enough toys...
Never.. never I say
Booowahahahahahahahaa!!!
Insanely yours,
Dave
-Original Message-
From: collinb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The really difficult
I have WAY TOO MUCH equipment, but I
know for sure I will be buying more!
JCO
-Original Message-
From: collinb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The really difficult question
How many of you think you have enough
I can't imagine that anyone (especially on this list!g) will say they
have enough!
There's always something longer, wider, faster, more compact, more
features, better reliability, better suited to a particular use, etc...
Every piece if equipment that I have, I'll eventually discover it's
That, from a man who changes systems as often as most people change
underwear... vbg
-frank
David Chang-Sang wrote:
Collin..
tut tut tut...
you can NEVER have enough toys...
Never.. never I say
Booowahahahahahahahaa!!!
Insanely yours,
Dave
--
Honour - that virtue of the
I'll be a dissenting voice. I have enough equipment. That doesn't
mean that there aren't one or two more things I might want.
At 08:36 PM 3/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
How many of you think you have enough equipment?
You may upgrade or transition to another medium or format,
but the quantity and
Try Sigma, Sunpak, Metz.
Joe
When I have one of everything Pentax made, then that will be enough!
(Well, maybe one A*135/1.8 to use and another to keep in the closet.)
(And I'll need a M85/2 to use, and - and - and... )
(I can say I definitely don't need three of anything, ...except maybe LX'es)
Bob S.
How many of you
- Original Message -
From: collinb
Subject: The really difficult question
How many of you think you have enough equipment?
You may upgrade or transition to another medium or format,
but the quantity and class of hardware suits you.
Who will face the hardest question of all?
:)
I
Paul Stenquist wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wouldn't shoot them at the feeder. A properly placed branch above the
feeder with the right background and you are off to the races...
I've done that. It can be nice. But I prefer to find birds in their
natural habitat. The hunt is part
give me a budget. reminds me of a story:
a teacher was teaching an English as a Second Language writing class and gave them a
writing assignment to be completed in class. they were asked what they would do if
they had a million dollars (this apparently was a story from the early 70's). the
- Original Message -
From: Paul Eriksson
Subject: Tokina 80-200 f/2.8 ATX Pro
What's the general opinion of the above mentioned lens?
I may have this lens. Mine is an ATX SD 80-200 f/2.8.
If this is the one you are asking after, it is very good.
William Robb
Well I have to get in on this discussion. Firstly, people have been using the
displays of other
ebayer's without permission. One New York TImes writer did an article on ebay -
it was supposed to
be this cute thing about ebay and how clever she was to link to another ebayer's
display. I wrote
Ok, here are the details:
It's a polaroid.
It had a 127mm/4.7 Rodenstock on the front.
It's a big gray folding rangefinder.
Seperate windows for rangefinding and composing.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
tv
tom wrote:
In case you missed it, Elliott Erwitt talked a little about
photography and his new book:
http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1186040.html
tv
And I taped it when it was on. I really thought Lopate did a
pathetically poor interview of
my personal idol. I could
Thanks Joe,
I will look into those. Peter
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative to the 360 FGZ AF flash on Mz 6
Try Sigma, Sunpak, Metz.
Joe
Hi Lawrence,
I think you are right in suggesting that I would be giving up allot by
not going with the 360 FGZ. I guess there are only so many corners to cut.
So it is time to be patient and save a bit longer and get the proper flash.
Thanks Peter
- Original Message -
From: Lawrence
I find two lenses 28-80 listed in Photodo Pentax lens test as below:
SMC-A 28-80/3.5-4.5 rating 2.1
SMC-F 28-80/3.5-4.5 rating 3.3
Does it mean that SMC-F 28-80 is far better than SMC-A 28-80 as above?
Thanks
Swades
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is there any way?
At 10:05 11.3.2003 -0500, caveman wrote:
Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:
Why would you want a sharp portrait lens anyway ? I bet the FA 135/2.8 is too sharp
for those really good portraits...
My reasoning is that there are many ways to soften a sharp image (optical filters
on lens, photoshop, lab
At 17:03 12.3.2003 +1030, you wrote:
is there any way?
With a Pentax 6x7 leaf shutter lens and adapter to 35mm you
should get 1/500 (?) Not very practical and it would be cheaper
to get the 360gz...
Antti-Pekka
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*
Hi!
I must join Peter Alling here. Somehow my lenses cover 28-222 range
which is enough for my ability and even has some room for growing. Of
course, given three hundred thousand more I would like to get some
more fixed focal lenses, since by now I have only two and a half - one
50 mm, one soft
Sharp lenses make the models so alive...
Yet so angry...
regards,
Alan Chan
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Hi Levi,
on 11 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
What I know of this lens that it is extremely rare.
Yes it is.
Anybody have one? How is it? How often does one pop up on the market
and what does it cost?
I have one and you might be lucky - I want to sell it ;-) It is in mint
condition,
At 23:19 11.3.2003 -0800, you wrote:
Sharp lenses make the models so alive...
Yet so angry...
regards,
Alan Chan
:-)
Antti-Pekka
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At 08:22 12.3.2003 +0100, you wrote:
I have one and you might be lucky - I want to sell it ;-) It is in mint
condition, (see www.mycroft.de/sale.html) and it is a really great lens.
It is sharp, contrasty and has a very solid built quality. I'm asking
for 145,- Euro plus shipping (I'm living
I am also interested in other, non Pentax brand options.
Then you might be interested in the Tamron 35-135/3.5-4.2 (sorry guys, I
know I shouldn't post eBay auctions here, but this is the only pic I have
found)?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2916542261category=707
regards,
At 09:26 12.3.2003 +0200, I wrote:
That looks like the SMC A 28-105, not the A 35-135 he was looking for...
Should have been:
That looks like the SMC A 35-105, not the A 35-135 he was looking for...
Antti-Pekka
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*
Ups - I was a bit too fast as I didn't read your subject line correct.
So see my offered 35-105 as good alternative to the 35-135 you've asked
for ;-)
Cheers, Heiko
Hi Antti-Pekka,
on 12 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
That looks like the SMC A 28-105, not the A 35-135 he was looking
for...
Should have been: That looks like the SMC A 35-105, not the A 35-135 he
was looking for...
LOL. Great confusion here ;-) But you're right, of course.
Cheers, Heiko
Well I'm glad you brought all this up as I've learned a bunch from all
this.
I tend to notice problems that I am not supposed to, or I don't want to. But
I do notice them somehow... :(
Is f11 to f13 a full or half stop?
1/2 I think? f11 f16 is 1 stop difference, f22 is another.
regards,
Alan
How many of you think you have enough equipment?
You may upgrade or transition to another medium or format,
but the quantity and class of hardware suits you.
Who will face the hardest question of all?
:)
Good question, I have never thought about this. Let me check with eBay and
see if I'll find
When I have one of everything Pentax made, then that will be enough!
(Well, maybe one A*135/1.8 to use and another to keep in the closet.)
Very good point! One set to use regularly, one set as backup, and of course,
the 3rd set is 100% brand new and for private collection only. Ah... I feel
so
I have everything I can use and most of the things I want. The * ist D will
almost certainly be my next purchase and I have already bought a 35f2 to go
on it. With 5 MXs, an LX, MZ5n and Spotmatic I have 35mm well and truly
covered and there aren't any real gaps in my lense lineup considering what
On 11 Mar 2003 at 20:36, collinb wrote:
How many of you think you have enough equipment?
You may upgrade or transition to another medium or format,
but the quantity and class of hardware suits you.
Who will face the hardest question of all?
:)
I have too much gear (I have recently sold a
I find two lenses 28-80 listed in Photodo Pentax lens test as below:
SMC-A 28-80/3.5-4.5 rating 2.1
SMC-F 28-80/3.5-4.5 rating 3.3
Does it mean that SMC-F 28-80 is far better than SMC-A 28-80 as above?
These 2 lenses should be optically identical. 'A' lenses were usually better
built than 'F'
I was talking to someone far more knowledgeable than myself and he was
saying that there is a difference in the quality of the pixel rating between
professional digital cameras and the garden variety point and shoot
digitals. Something to do with algorithms. For example, would a Nikon D1 or
D1H
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