Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:32 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: YOUR spamming- please stop posting posts with absolutely no relevant content to the list... P.S. havent you got anything better to do that count my posts and report to the list? that's sad... What I'm posting is extremely relevant to the

RE: George's potty stop deconstructed

2005-09-20 Thread Bob W
As usual in these cases, he was back in the government faster than you can say 'revolving door'. There is now speculation that he will soon return as Home Secretary (Minister of the Interior). He was the most illiberal, authoritarian Home Secretary I can remember. For the sake of administrative

Re: Rename request

2005-09-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/19/2005 7:55:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You must not have had the pleasure of owning and using these K/M lenses and are playing some selfish game where you think your $5 savings is more important than continued support of perfectly working

PESO: Others 2005 - 37p - GDG

2005-09-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
A view of Arundel Castle: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/37p.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey

Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread John Celio
It's a tough job but somebody has to do it. I'll accept the burden for the good of the PDML community. :-) Way to take one for the team, Godfrey. (: Personally, I'm tired of his close-minded, self-righteous ballyhooing. Lucky for him I'm not a moderator, or I would have taken the hint

Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 19/9/05, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: P.S. havent you got anything better to do that count my posts and report to the list? Godders, the man *has* a point ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 19/9/05, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: Once the ordure came into contact with the rotational air circulating device they screamed for help from the engineers, who were able to come up with a reasonable workaround. What, and they didn't see it coming? Come on John, companies that

Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
We know that Pentax have lost one sale, so far. Not a lot, really. And all they have lost is the sale of a body. It is quite clear that the person in question won't buy another lens if he lives for four hundred years. I'd love to know what car /cart he drives, and I'm surprised his old

Re: Interior photography and the *istD

2005-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 19/9/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: If the job pans out AARGH :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/19/2005 8:21:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Count: 78 green button messages from JCO in 27 hours. Bloody slacker. That's only three per hour. He needs better spam- generating software. Godfrey = I am tired of this, so I am going to say

Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/20/2005 12:28:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What, and they didn't see it coming? Come on John, companies that actually stay in business just don't do things like that. It's not being cynical, it's just covering your bases Cheers, Cotty

Re: Rename request

2005-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 19/9/05, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: Now do you get it? Plain and clear this end! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

PESO: Blue Flower Macro

2005-09-20 Thread John Celio
Been meaning to post this for a while: http://www.neovenator.com/special/flower-2-big.html and a very tight crop, just for fun: http://www.neovenator.com/special/flower_detail.html I shot this with my MX while my D was out for repair. The flower itself is no more than an inch and a half

Re: PESO - On a stick

2005-09-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/19/2005 7:48:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This particular cattail was intriguing because it looked so much like a hot dog to me. Pentax *istD, K 200/2.5, Handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2173.htm Comments welcome --

Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/9/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: He makes the Amish look positively groovy. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread mike wilson
From: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 07:23:11 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: green button wars (again) It's a tough job but somebody has to do it. I'll accept the burden for the good of the PDML community. :-) Way to take one for the team,

Re: PESO: Blue Flower Macro

2005-09-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/20/2005 12:39:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Been meaning to post this for a while: http://www.neovenator.com/special/flower-2-big.html and a very tight crop, just for fun: http://www.neovenator.com/special/flower_detail.html I shot this with my MX

Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
Thank God for that. Then perhaps you can move on from your obsession with Pentax's financial downfall. One down, one to go. John On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 01:56:18 +0100, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unless it is available in 2 weeks, it's too late. Herb... - Original Message -

Re: OT: Batch Image Rotation Thumbnail Creation

2005-09-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/19/2005 4:38:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Several people have recommended IrfanView. They're right :-) Lots of other free stuff out there, too: http://www.robertstech.com/pixel/software.htm -- Mark Roberts Hey, nice page, Mark! Very handy

Re: PESO: Portrait of Leah

2005-09-20 Thread danilo
On 9/19/05, Fred Widall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the comments - good to see such a level of unanimity on the list for once VBG I was trying for the supermodel/barbie look but guess I overdid things. Funnily enough Leah thought it was a beautiful image, ah well. This

Re: more green button wars

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
And if Pentax don't sell more lenses, they'll go to the wall. Very clever. John On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 03:39:14 +0100, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EXCUSE ME, arent you forgetting one little thingy? PENTAX CANT SELL MORE NEW REPLACEMENT LENSES if they support the K/Ms - that’s

Re: illogical

2005-09-20 Thread danilo
lol, there are times I wonder why I am still subscribed to this list (I use no pentax gear anymore, sad but true). Then threads like this remind me the reasons why... cheers, Danilo

Re: Rename request

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
This posts brings an old story to mind. Proud mother, who has just watched her son marching in his first parade: They was all out of step except our Freddy! John On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 03:13:25 +0100, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For your information it was the spotmatic list and

Re: Rename request

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
Yes, this isn't the first time he's made a complete fool of himself on this list. John On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 04:10:43 +0100, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JCO is one of the old timers here. Bob Sullivan wrote: Brian, JCO was on the Yahoo Pentax Screwmount Lens list until last

Re: Rename request

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 05:58:45 +0100, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I have got better things to do than waste big time on things like thatSorry I cant accommodate you but it isnt going to change... Mark! John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:

Re: PESO: Blue Flower Macro

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:44:02 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I have a great deal of trouble photographing flowers myself because of wind. Marnie aka Doe Lots of us have this problem, and not just with flowers or photography! John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:

Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 37p - GDG

2005-09-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/20/2005 12:20:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A view of Arundel Castle: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/37p.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey = That's nice. No criticisms. Marnie aka Doe :-) Though

Re: GESO: A few pics from Zoom Gallery

2005-09-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/18/2005 4:12:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect this never made it to the list. I never saw it. If it's a dupe, please accept my apologies. Fridayt saw another gallery crawl in Birmingham, Michigan. The gallery that has been showing some of my

Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 37p - GDG

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
This looks rather artificial to me, Godfrey. John On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:19:19 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A view of Arundel Castle: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/37p.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- Using

istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I seem to recall some people saying that, when using manual exposure, and/or manual focus lenses, the DS (and maybe the D as well) has had some exposure problems. Today the DS was sporting a K28/3.5 - as manual as you can get - and I was making a few exposures of some wooden bears on a friend's

istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I seem to recall some people saying that, when using manual exposure, and/or manual focus lenses, the DS (and maybe the D as well) has had some exposure problems. Today the DS was sporting a K28/3.5 - as manual as you can get - and I was making a few exposures of some wooden bears on a friend's

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread mike wilson
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 08:11:01 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: istDS Exposure Problems I seem to recall some people saying that, when using manual exposure, and/or manual focus lenses, the DS (and maybe the D as well) has had some

Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread Herb Chong
between April and June 2005, KM sold 10K, Nikon sold 330K, Olympus sold 40K, Pentax sold 20K, and Canon sold 500K DSLRs. everyone else was enough under 10K not to matter. Herb... - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday,

Re: PESO: Blue Flower Macro

2005-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like the wider version. Nicely composed with pleasing colors. With the focal point on the tips of the stamen, the limited DOF works well here. I would clone out the other petal or leaf that's visible between two petals at lower right to preserve the geometry of the composition. But then

Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm

2005-09-20 Thread Herb Chong
Zeiss and Voigtlander can appeal to the retro market as they have done in the past. they will release new film cameras with small changes from their basic chassis. most of the differences will be cosmetic. Herb... - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread Herb Chong
since it is on a tripod, one handed makes little difference. Herb... - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:15 PM Subject: Re: green button wars (again) For you maybe, I find I'm a lot steadier if I

Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread Herb Chong
given that Pentax hopes to sell 120K DSLRs this fiscal year, all of which are low profit margin, what do you think? Herb... - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'pentax-discuss' pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:27 AM Subject: Camera

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's probably a hiccup. The only possible logical explanation would be the slight reframing could change exposure if you were using the spot meter. I've had that happen to me. But I've also encountered situations where my *istD just seemed to get confused and go slightly bonkers. Might you

Re: Rename request

2005-09-20 Thread Herb Chong
and irrelevant. that is the part he doesn't get. Herb - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:34 AM Subject: Re: Rename request On 19/9/05, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: Now

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
It looks rather as though the aperture didn't stop down fully. Sticky? John On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:12:50 +0100, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 08:11:01 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: istDS Exposure Problems

Re: Interior photography and the *istD

2005-09-20 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/20/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19/9/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: If the job pans out AARGH :-) HAHA! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman

Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)

2005-09-20 Thread Herb Chong
you haven't figured it out yet, my position represents the same as that of people who manage hundreds of millions of dollars of Pentax stock. Pentax's camera business is in serious trouble, not the company. if Pentax pulls out of the camera business, then all the money have i have put into

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No metering, Paul. It was all in manual. Camera in Manual mode (M on the dial), aperture set manually, shutter speed set manually. Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive? [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist It's probably a hiccup. The only possible logical explanation would be the

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course. That's a logical explanation. Paul On Sep 20, 2005, at 6:44 AM, John Forbes wrote: It looks rather as though the aperture didn't stop down fully. Sticky? John On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:12:50 +0100, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John, Not that I can tell, but I did exercise the lens for about 100 cycles after seeing this just to be sure. The aperture is certainly working fine now. My concern isn't so much that the lens may be at fault so much as that there may be some odd behavior that's an issue with these cameras.

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, mike wilson wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 08:11:01 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: istDS Exposure Problems The camera was set at the same aperture, shutter speed, and ISO for both of these shots, made within a minute of each

Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)

2005-09-20 Thread Mishka
why? please enlight. what's gonna happen @Q1 2006 or shortly thereafter? mishka On 9/20/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it. anyone who is not profitable in the digital camera game by 1Q 2006 isn't ever going to be.

Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm

2005-09-20 Thread Mishka
most were surprised to see F6 from Nikon and Ikon from Zeiss too. so? life is full of surprises. mishka On 9/19/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be surprised if we see another new film camera from Nikon. Leica, perhaps if they manage to stay in business. Wouldn't know about

Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
Herb, You are a photographer. You know less than nothing about finance, or about marketing, or about how large corporations operate. You read a few handouts and come on here posturing as an expert on Pentax and the business world in general. As you yourself concede, Pentax as a company

Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm

2005-09-20 Thread Mishka
my point was, they released new (and in Zeiss case, designed from the scratch) film cameras when the film is dead was pretty much a given. i am not sure exactly what's the deep meaning of that, except that, maybe, they know something we don't? like, how to make money staying in camera business?

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
Shel, The simple explanation is usually the one to go for. The aperture is set by the lens. The camera's only input is to activate the stop down lever, and I would guess that that is something that either works or it doesn't. The camera of course has to fire the shutter at the correct

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'm starting to think that it may have been a sticky aperture. However, I'm going to pay careful attention to the situation over the next few days. I just made about seventy shots with the aperture fully open, and didn't see any exposure differences.Thanks! Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive?

Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread Toralf Lund
Mark Erickson wrote: [ ... ] s Anyone here with manufacturing engineering background care to actually make some estimates? Say in the number of engineering hours, broken down into design, development, integration, and test? I guess I have *some* relevant experience, but I don't think I

Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm

2005-09-20 Thread John Forbes
We'll be even more surprised to see any more Nikons, but if there are, they'll be very expensive, and hand-built to order. Same with Zeiss. John On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 12:17:48 +0100, Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most were surprised to see F6 from Nikon and Ikon from Zeiss too. so? life is

Re: PAW: Chinatown Abstract

2005-09-20 Thread David Savage
Don't worry Frank. You didn't sound artsy at all. Overblown pretentious well... VBG BTW. After initially looking at it, it didn't do anything form me. After your explanation I had another look, and I can see where your coming from, but it still doesn't do anything for me. I quite often like

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I agree and no, it was not a sudden change in the light. I'm gonna go for the simple explanation for the time being ;-)) Thanks! Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive? [Original Message] From: John Forbes The simple explanation is usually the one to go for. The aperture is set by

Re: Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread mike wilson
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 11:13:53 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: istDS Exposure Problems On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, mike wilson wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 08:11:01 GMT To:

Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 37p - GDG

2005-09-20 Thread David Savage
Sorry Godfrey, this, IMO, just doesn't seem to be up to your usual standard. It looks a bit flat, and at this size not particularly sharp. Dave On 9/20/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A view of Arundel Castle: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/37p.htm

Re: Interior photography and the *istD

2005-09-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have a line on a job taking photographs for a company that does interior and exterior work for real estate companies. While I don't know the details of said work just yet, I do know that they provide those interior panoramas that are quite popular

Re: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)

2005-09-20 Thread mike wilson
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 11:20:47 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm) Herb, You are a photographer. You know less than nothing about finance, or about marketing, or about how large

Re: Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread mike wilson
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 11:32:27 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: istDS Exposure Problems I'm starting to think that it may have been a sticky aperture. However, I'm going to pay careful attention to the situation over the next few

Re: George's potty stop deconstructed

2005-09-20 Thread keith_w
Jack Davis wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4099581.stm And, in all the new news about his leaving office, not a sentence about the food and lodging fiasco he so blithely perpetrated! Is all that forgotten so quickly? Seems so... keith

Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)

2005-09-20 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, John Forbes wrote: bodies you want. As it is, your wholly negative and destructive attitude is designed to do the opposite. You are a sad and unpleasant person, and I wish you would go away, or at least restrict your contribution to subjects you know something about.

Re: Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, mike wilson wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue AM 11:32:27 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: istDS Exposure Problems I'm starting to think that it may have been a sticky aperture. However, I'm going to pay careful attention to

Re: Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I wanted to eliminate the aperture from the equation, Mike, and see if it was something within the camera. After your comment I did the test again with the aperture @ F8.0. Exposures were erratic. I guess the lens needs a CLA :-(( Thanks to all for your suggestions. Shel [Original Message]

Re: illogical

2005-09-20 Thread David Savage
It's threads like this that make the PDML interesting. Dave On 9/20/05, danilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol, there are times I wonder why I am still subscribed to this list (I use no pentax gear anymore, sad but true). Then threads like this remind me the reasons why... cheers,

Re: Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread mike wilson
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/20 Tue PM 12:01:40 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: istDS Exposure Problems I wanted to eliminate the aperture from the equation, Mike, and see if it was something within the camera. After your comment I did the test

Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)

2005-09-20 Thread dagt
if Pentax pulls out of the camera business, then all the money have i have put into Pentax dead-ends. Well. I've got a Bronica SQ-A with a very good PS 40mm, PS 180mm and an OK 80mm and some more equipment. The lenses were bought new, so they represent a large investment for me. Now

Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone here with manufacturing engineering background care to actually make some estimates? Say in the number of engineering hours, broken down into design, development, integration, and test? I have a little background in this area, having worked in the

RE: Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Don Sanderson
Hi Shel, To test the aperture mechanism, stop the lens all the way down, hold the aperture open with your finger via the lever on the back of the lens, wait a few minutes and then release the lever as fast as you can while looking thru then lens. The blades should close _way_ faster than your

RE: Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Don Sanderson
Mike makes a good point, I've had a couple lenses that the lever was bent out slightly and rubbed on the lens mount. Look for slight rub marks on the wide side of the lever. Don -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:15 AM

RE: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You don't need to be a camera engineer to see that in the overall cost of designing and building these cameras that this INCREDIBLY simple and cheap part removal COULD NOT result in any signifigant cost savings due to the much more massive engineering costs required for the rest of the camera and

Re: Albano featured in Photoblogs Magazine

2005-09-20 Thread frank theriault
On 9/18/05, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got email about the September issue of photoblogs magazine, and inside, found a writeup with photos by PDML's own Albano Garcia: http://www.photoblogsmagazine.org/magazine/sept2005/septalbano.php Congratulations Albano! If I didn't

RE: Rename request

2005-09-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
YES WE CAN- there is a long history of these parts in bottom of the line PENTAX cameras that sold for only $150 FOR THE WHOLE CAMERAHow much do you think that parts maximum cost could have been for that to be possible? jco -Original Message- From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
STOP the personal attacks. It is irresponsible behavior for you to continue classify my posts as inane or religious or wasted bandwidth without responding to them directly. In other words if you cant refute what I am saying then you don't have the right to make those kind of personal insults

Buffer upgrade to DSLR

2005-09-20 Thread Mark Roberts
From DP Review: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0509/05092001s3pro256.asp Fujifilm Japan has today announced that it will make available an upgrade for the S3 Pro digital SLR which will increase the camera's internal buffer from 128 MB to 256 MB. I don't know about anyone else, but *I'd* pay a

RE: Rename request

2005-09-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
NO - I didn't state this before because its so obvious that I didn't think it needed stating. I am huge fan of the K/M PENTAX lenses. I really like them and I really enjoy using them. Some of the best lenses they ever made are in this series. There is no sense is disabling them over a $5 part

Re: Buffer upgrade to DSLR

2005-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
ditto. On Sep 20, 2005, at 8:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: From DP Review: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0509/05092001s3pro256.asp Fujifilm Japan has today announced that it will make available an upgrade for the S3 Pro digital SLR which will increase the camera's internal buffer from 128 MB to

RE: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I am sorry but you are grossly mistaken on the entire issue. This isnt about things lasting forever. This is about compatability vs support. The K/M lenses are in NO WAY incompatable with the current mount (FA). What they are doing is DISABLING the features of these lenses even thought there are

RE: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)

2005-09-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
JOHN - STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ME- reply to my posts and on-topic or don't reply at all. that's basic netiquitte. I don't call you an idiot but you are one if you continue that behavior. this is a discussion list about pentax. if you cant discuss pentax and would rather prefer to personally

RE: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
UMMM, excuse me this wasn't just a cost reduction, this was a feature reduction...Cost reduction in itself is always important to remain competetive no doubt but this was more than that because key functions were removed so its basically a bottom of the line model at the top of their line at the

RE: Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I just gave it your test. Darn and shucks, if that's not what's happening. Sluggish diaphragm. I think I'll send it off to Don's House of Lens Repair, Storm Door Company, and Bagel Bakery. LOL Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson To test the aperture mechanism, stop the lens all

Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread David Savage
JCO, The thing that you seem unwilling to concede or admit is that these legacy lenses CAN still be used, ARE still being used, and still take fine pictures. Your point about them doing away with the metering coupler, or whatever it's called, has been made already. Pentax chose to do away with

Re: Buffer upgrade to DSLR

2005-09-20 Thread David Savage
Double ditto. Dave On 9/20/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ditto. On Sep 20, 2005, at 8:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: From DP Review: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0509/05092001s3pro256.asp Fujifilm Japan has today announced that it will make available an upgrade for the S3

Re: Buffer upgrade to DSLR

2005-09-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Make it triple. -- Boris

Best high speed short telephoto?

2005-09-20 Thread Charles Robinson
I'm looking for something that may not exist. Back in my film days when I shot a lot of concerts, I was quite fond of my 135mm f2.5 zoom. Not the sharpest lens on the planet, but the combination of reach and speed seemed to work well in combination with the 28 and 50mm lenses. These

Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why is that so hard for you to understand??? Why is it so hard for you to accept that Pentax has f***ed you in the ass and move on? Face it, and I know other pdmlers have already stated this, it's a goddam conspiracy for

RE: Best high speed short telephoto?

2005-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
There's not much choice in the 70mm~90mm range except for the various 85mm lenses, both in screw mount and in K mount. They all tend to be a bit spendy, more or less. If you can live with it, a Super Takumar 105/2.8 may be just the thing. Comes in a K-mount as well. There's also the M 100/2.8.

Re: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread frank theriault
On 9/20/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip He makes the Amish look positively groovy.snip Is it okay to make fun of the Amish on the internet, because they don't have electricity, let alone computers? g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Best high speed short telephoto?

2005-09-20 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:41:22 +0200, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something

RE: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I am sorry but you certainly can not have been reading or comprehending all my posts because if you had read them you would know I was forced to say it repeatedly, possibly for the third time now, this is totally different than NIKON OR CANON FD situations. With CANON FD- they lost FD mounting

Re: Best high speed short telephoto?

2005-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/9/05, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something reasonably-priced

Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 37p - GDG

2005-09-20 Thread frank theriault
On 9/20/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A view of Arundel Castle: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/37p.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. I like it. The angle, with the flowery hill, makes the castle look quite imposing. cheers, frank --

Re: istDS Exposure Problems

2005-09-20 Thread Jack Davis
On two occasions I've had a problem with stuck stop-down levers. In one case (A*-300mm f/2.8) it was sent to Pentax Colorado. I had it 'handled' by a local camera shop with which I've been closely associated for many years. When returned, I opened it in the presence of the shop owner. First thing

RE: Camera engineering (was Re: Rename request)

2005-09-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I am only responding to these lame attempts to somehow prove that Pentax's decision **wasn't*** a screwing of not just me but millions of other pentax customers.. And if you are conceding that Pentax has indeed screwed their customers, what exactly makes you think you wont be next in line???

Re: Buffer upgrade to DSLR

2005-09-20 Thread Adam Maas
Quadruple, it's my only major issue with the D. -Adam Boris Liberman wrote: Make it triple.

Re: Fixer Labs software

2005-09-20 Thread wendy beard
On 9/19/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been using it since it came out. it is one of the true deblurring Photoshop filters. until Smart Sharpen came out in Photoshop CS2, there was no real deblur function in Photoshop that allowed modifying any settings. Unsharp Mask is not a

Re: How Pentax Could Survive (was:Re: Pentax K 2.5/200mm)

2005-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/9/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: You are a sad and unpleasant person, and I wish you would go away, or at least restrict your contribution to subjects you know something about. Photography, for instance. I think that's a compliment ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: PESO - On a stick

2005-09-20 Thread wendy beard
On 9/19/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This particular cattail was intriguing because it looked so much like a hot dog to me. Pentax *istD, K 200/2.5, Handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2173.htm Yes, it does rather. Aren't these the things we

Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-20 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: RE: green button wars (again) as for reasons to switch from PS digicams to DSLRS are DSLRS actually quieter? Why? Bigger sensor/photosites

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