RE: Peso - Hoboken train station
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps- 2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1206929219_wgRuT/Large ann That's a nice shot, captures some great body language. I'd prefer the colour cast to be naturalised though. Magnificent station, too. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso - Hoboken train station
Nice capture Ann... Not to detract from the capture but I am curious to know what are people's reactions to you taking a picture they may appear to be in. This goes for you and anyone on the list. I am thinking about going downtown around 2nd avenue to some weekend and want to know what to expect as far as people and being able to snap their picture. You have two options. One is to make yourself invisible, the other is to make yourself unmissable. The worst thing to do in my opinion is to creep around furtively trying to 'sneak' pictures, although sometimes it seems to be the only way. In any case, confidence is everything. That plus a winning smile. People are generally ok with it. Even then, sometimes people can get a bit annoyed with you, and you just have to learn to deal with it. This guy was a bit annoyed when I took his picture, bit I was rather in his face, so I don't blame him: http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/L1030011_large.html B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Zenit
This shelf is just a small part of my collection of soviet cameras. Speaking of Zenits, I do have couple of Olympic ones (TTL, E) as well as other commemorative versions (there have been quite plenty of special versions for different Communist Party Congresses, October Revolution anniversaries etc.). All of those are carefully packed away to the boxes as I do prefer pure cameras on display. More cameras and less ideology, if you like :) BR, Margus On 05-Mar-11 10:33 PM, mike wilson wrote: On 05/03/2011 10:37, Margus Männik wrote: Well, memories, seventies... just two steps to go, door to open and... http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/shelf.jpg :) BR, Margus Excellent! No Olympics one? Boris the mention of the Zenit film camera brings back fond memories. I had one in the 70's as a second camera to my Ricoh using cheap off-brand Pentax screw mount lenses. I came across it the other day cleaning out some closets. I don't think I would use it today but the negatives from those days are around here somewhere. hmmm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Free Time Management Workshop
Why would you want to manage your free time? That kind of defeats the purpose. 2011/3/4 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: They're offering a Free Time Management Workshop where I go to school. But, of course, I won't have time to attend it. 8-D - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3480 - Release Date: 03/03/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Vote vor Pebtax K-5
Sorry 'bout this. I had ni idea. I recently bought a license for Portrait Proffessional. That why the sent me the email about the vote. When I clicked the link - whre I coued vote for the software, I realized that ther's a voto as well for cameras :-). Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Mar 6, 2011 01:41 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Me too. On 3/5/2011 6:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: It wants me to log in. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Jensp...@planfoto.dk wrote: https://webmail.one.com/email/?get=msgxslt=mailspfolder=INBOXui d=2450uidval=1216895682prefmod=20090921143703Z Please consider voting for Pentax K-5. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This seems backwards
2011/3/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: I just noticed how much more time I was spending on managing photos, and just quipped that in an attempt to make humor of my plight. I think that I was defining serious as photography that I get paid for, or ought to. What I thought you meant. And I loved the slightly wistful sentiment. :-) I once changed career from science teaching to IT (in a previous millennium), turning a hobby into profession. Even for a regular job it meant less joy and more management. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement: LX w. 2.8 24mm + extras
On 06/03/2011 00:02, William Robb wrote: On 05/03/2011 4:31 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Brian, Just so you can't forget. ;-) Regards, Bob S. http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/Gallery_index.html I thought I was being so clever. You mean using java? Must be horrible to realise your own gallery won't work in your present browser configuration. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Enablement: LX w. 2.8 24mm + extras
Thanks. The guy who sold it to me had an advert, selling it with an f. 1.2 50mm. But sadly he sold the f. 1.2 lens seperately allready. Never mind - this lens is probably a colectors item, not really a user lens. I remeber reading it's not very sharp wide open anyway. I'm actually looking to buy a better 50 mm (for portraits). I own an FA 1.4 50mm - but it's not sensational. I want an F 1.4 50mm or a FA 1.7 50mm. Or perhaps a Carl Zeiss 50mm dedicated with K-mount (expensive). Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Mar 6, 2011 02:36 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 March 2011 10:02, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I was being so clever. Good job too looking back. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!
On 06/03/2011 00:46, Steven Desjardins wrote: Resistance is futile. I do it purely for contrary SOB reasons, so it is also intensely satisfying. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:43 PM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 05/03/2011 22:25, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! I'm still hoping for total annihilation of MS, Google and Adobe when the battle for omniscience kicks off. With a side order of Apple obliteration. My first UNIX install will begin shortly. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Vote vor Pebtax K-5
2011/3/6 Jens p...@planfoto.dk: Sorry 'bout this. I had ni idea. I recently bought a license for Portrait Proffessional. That why the sent me the email about the vote. When I clicked the link - whre I coued vote for the software, I realized that ther's a voto as well for cameras :-). The link you gave us is to your webmail interface, I think. I'd gladly place my vote, even if I haven't had more than a few hours' worth of playing with the K-5. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Free Time Management Workshop
On 06/03/2011 05:38, John Sessoms wrote: From: Matthew Hunt On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:01 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: They're offering a Free Time Management Workshop where I go to school. Gratis or leisure? You know, I didn't think about the different ways that might be parsed. Pretty much a fatal mistake on this list. Even non-native speakers will jump on an opportunity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO by Boris and Galia - Almonds
On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! We chanced today to come by the whole plantation of almond trees that were totally in bloom. I think I can say that one of my photographic dreams has come true. Galia and I each produced a gallery which you can see here: http://liberman-family.com/boris/pics/Israel/Almonds%202011/index.html Galia must have a really good camera. I particularly like: http://liberman-family.com/boris/pics/Israel/Almonds%202011/By%20Galia/slides/K7_12739.html Also I should say that this is renovated presentation of photos on my web site. Feel free to browse around as you may find some new stuff there as well. I am particularly impressed by Galia who chose to shoot with her trusty FA 100/3.5 macro and produced this shot upon my request: http://liberman-family.com/boris/pics/Israel/Almonds%202011/By%20Galia/slides/K7_12762.html That's nice too. I like the way the pink contrasts with the green. Galia did some great work, she probably had a better photography teacher than you did. /wink/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fox tracks
2011/3/5 Bob W p...@web-options.com: that's a very beautiful picture. How do you know it's fox? Hmm... One indicator is the apparent gait. The fox likes to travel at a light trot even on bumpy terrain, consistent with the pacing of these tracks. The only possible mix-up is with a dog of similar size. The decisive difference between dogs and foxes is the width of the paw imprint, so my photo can't prove anything. If it was a dog, however, it would have to be a stray. The only human track was before the last snowfall five days ago. The likelihood of a stray dog is very small. I don't believe it would have the necessary hunting skills for these conditions. Current snow depth is more than a meter. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Free Time Management Workshop
2011/3/6 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Even non-native speakers will jump on an opportunity. I thought most of us non-natives were regarded as odd. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - the coffee shop portraits
Excellent sniping there Paul. On Mar 5, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Another in this long-running series. ISO 3200, DA* 60-250, and K-5, f8, 1/160th, 60mm. Shot with live view with the camera in my lap. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12780173size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Portrait Party
On 3/3/2011 8:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote: If the person who's being photographed is not standing, it does not seem too much of an issue. But if they are standing, such a viewpoint distorts the relation between legs and torso. Again, it depends on the goal and conscious decision of a photographer and their model(s), but I am thinking that here it is not always flattering... You are, of course, correct. That is why I shot a few like that to get some variety, but did not shoot the whole series like that. My theory is that to get great shots, you have to risk taking some bad ones, and to guarantee that not all of the shots are bad, you have to mix things up a bit, knowing that'll ruin some but others will turn out. Think of it as bracketing the composition. I understand. Well, both you and I know that your approach (more that of trigger happy combinatorics) and mine (more that of a 'try to make each shot the winner') are different. Therefore, that K-7 that Galia has been given has really low shutter activation count. But your approach is definitely valid. It is just that specifically in this case, it seems that these very specific compositional solutions were not to the liking of this very viewer. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement: LX w. 2.8 24mm + extras
On 3/4/2011 7:31 PM, Jens wrote: WOO-HOOO! I got my very first Pentax LX today. It is beautiful - near mint (just one tiny paint loss at the top of the prisma - one square mm, that's all). It came with a very nice 2.8 24mm w. filter, lens hood and the original round box. I also got the caps for the VF/body and an extra focusing screen. And I got the late version of the AF280T flash - thats's the one that can shoot backwards, which is very nice for hitting the ceiling while the camera is pointed downwards. I already own the older version, which unfortunately can't do this. I'm very plesed - and I payed only 350 USD, which is below the current ebay prises. Regards Jens Congratulations, Jens. LX and 24/2.8 for USD 350 isn't expensive at all. Enjoy your new lens and camera, I know you can put them to very good use. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT So, cyclists,....
... how are your downhill skills? This needs sound on and full screen for best effect. http://www.wimp.com/urbanchile/ Note the correct attire. I wimped out at passing the sheets of corrugated iron, end on, at about 30mph. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Free Time Management Workshop
On 06/03/2011 11:20, AlunFoto wrote: 2011/3/6 mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Even non-native speakers will jump on an opportunity. I thought most of us non-natives were regarded as odd. :-) Jostein I think nutty is the term used. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Portrait Party
On Mar 6, 2011, at 3:26 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 3/3/2011 8:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Think of it as bracketing the composition. I understand. Well, both you and I know that your approach (more that of trigger happy combinatorics) and mine (more that of a 'try to make each shot the winner') are different. Therefore, that K-7 that Galia has been given has really low shutter activation count. I've been trying your approach for my own photography. If I am photographing for other people, I don whatever it takes to make sure I get the shot. But since my trip to LA, when shooting for myself, I've been trying to not take pictures that aren't winners. As a result, I've taken much fewer bad shots. Then again, rather than going on a mini photo walk every time that I have a few minutes to kill, I think that apart from one time, it's probably been a couple of months since I've gone shooting just for fun. But your approach is definitely valid. It is just that specifically in this case, it seems that these very specific compositional solutions were not to the liking of this very viewer. No problem at all. Any time the aesthetic goal is that nobody dislikes it, the result is something that nobody loves. I'd rather take photos that some people really love, even if others hate them, than pictures that nobody feels strongly one way or the other about. If we were to both go out shooting film, it would be interesting to compare our frame counts at the end of the day. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
March PUG is up!
Evenin' all Everything from big weather to no weather Lots of good stuff for your viewing pleasure, although still only limited interest in the 'Open Gallery' concept. You'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ Please note (in case you missed the recent 'PUG image sizes' thread). There is a slight change in how images are displayed. Any image too large to display without scrolling on most desktop monitors, will be seen at a reduced size. In this gallery the images most affected by this are those by Bong, Matthew Hunt, John Coyle and Bruce Walker. To view an image at its original size, just click on the displayed image - the original size image should appear in a new overlaid window (if you have javascript disabled, the original size image will still appear but you will need to use the browser's 'back' button to return to the gallery). If you have problems with this, please let me know. I've tested it on Firefox 3, IE8, Opera 10, Chrome 9 and Safari 5 (Win version) and it seems to be working OK (but how did Chrome get to version 9 so quickly?). Next up: April - Memories of Kodachrome. (PJ - this was your suggestion, so I assume there will be a submission from you.) Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html Increased image size limits apply for the April and future galleries (see the submission guidelines for details). Well, I'm off to bed - see you in a few hours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO Portrait Party
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen [...] But since my trip to LA, when shooting for myself, I've been trying to not take pictures that aren't winners. As a result, I've taken much fewer bad shots. the important questions is, have you taken more good shots? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT So, cyclists,....
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson ... how are your downhill skills? This needs sound on and full screen for best effect. http://www.wimp.com/urbanchile/ Note the correct attire. I wimped out at passing the sheets of corrugated iron, end on, at about 30mph. speaking as someone who broke his wrist failing to negotiate at 2 mph a bit of pavement raised less than one inch from the road, I'll give that a miss. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - the coffee shop portraits
Thanks Larry. I'm beginning to appreciate live view. Paul On Mar 6, 2011, at 6:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Excellent sniping there Paul. On Mar 5, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Another in this long-running series. ISO 3200, DA* 60-250, and K-5, f8, 1/160th, 60mm. Shot with live view with the camera in my lap. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12780173size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
BOB ANN RE: Peso - Hoboken train station
I thank you both for your suggestions. When we went last Saturday to Mt. Olivet Cemetery we ended up going downtown and turning onto 1st avenue. Which we should have known it would be busy but I did not realize just how many people were downtown. Being the Country Music capital there were and are a lot of musicians on the different corners and a lot of different tourists as well as locals hanging out around the stores and bars downtown. It would be an interesting photo capturing trip to spend either the evening or morning taking pictures. I will just have to figure out a good place to park so it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to do so. Jeffery -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 2:12 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Peso - Hoboken train station You have two options. One is to make yourself invisible, the other is to make yourself unmissable. The worst thing to do in my opinion is to creep around furtively trying to 'sneak' pictures, although sometimes it seems to be the only way. In any case, confidence is everything. That plus a winning smile. People are generally ok with it. Even then, sometimes people can get a bit annoyed with you, and you just have to learn to deal with it. This guy was a bit annoyed when I took his picture, bit I was rather in his face, so I don't blame him: http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/L1030011_large.html B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Free Time Management Workshop
Well, I can manage my free time thank you so much. On the other hand, a free (like in 'unpaid') time management workshop couldn't possibly be any good because it is free. Boris On 3/4/2011 9:01 PM, John Sessoms wrote: They're offering a Free Time Management Workshop where I go to school. But, of course, I won't have time to attend it. 8-D - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3480 - Release Date: 03/03/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Portrait Workshop
Some friends at oeur local camera club (Køge Foto Klub) are doing a portrait/lighting workshop. We meet the second weddensday of every month (not July and December). We want to test 10 of the best lighting samples in the Visatec book: http://www.photal.nl/fabrikanten/Visatec/PDF_files/Visatec_portfolio_2_E.pdf We do one lighting sample on every venue. So, we'll do 10 workshops in one year. These are samples of mine from the workshop sessions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157625815965480/ The first two workshops was not from the book: 1. One lamp samples - Rembrandt, Butterfly and Edge. 2. One lamp sample from the earlier, printed Visatec book, which I am fortunate enough to own. When we're finished we'll make our own book (pdf-file), similar to the original Visatec Guide. I have allready made the first four pages :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Hoboken train station
You're using the old, but effective sneaky/deceptive method. ;)) Jack --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Peso - Hoboken train station To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 9:22 PM Wow - I see who the night birds are here! I went off to play Scrabble and found a bunch of niceness when I came back here... So thanks all of you for that... I glommed onto this one to answer Jefferys question first No one thought I was taking pictures of them, actually... the man reading the paper was engrossed, the others were asleep, and people in the station walking around saw my delight in the lighting .. one guy said it looks like gold about the windows on top. That being said, I generally don't get in people's faces... If what I want are the people in the scene I prentend I'm just shooting structure... I might click one off quickly then put the camera down as if they were in my way and I was waiting... or just keep the camera to my face as they pass by. I don't take photos of the unfortunate... and sometimes I literally shoot from the hip-- er-- well waist if I am going for street shots. Sometimes I'm jsut out of their line of vision and frequently shoot people only for scale or passing by at right angles and some distance so they just think I'm taking a photo of what they are walking by. Ann Jeffery Johnson wrote: Nice capture Ann... Not to detract from the capture but I am curious to know what are people's reactions to you taking a picture they may appear to be in. This goes for you and anyone on the list. I am thinking about going downtown around 2nd avenue to some weekend and want to know what to expect as far as people and being able to snap their picture. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:30 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso - Hoboken train station http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/1538920 6_z3saz/1/1206929219_wgRuT/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up!
My favorites are the panorama Squall Line from Mathew Hunt and Big Weather (the colorado landscape) from John Sessoms. You gotta love the light in both! Next most favorites - all of the water/fog/mountains/cloud shots. This is a very good gallery, congratulations to all! Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Evenin' all Everything from big weather to no weather Lots of good stuff for your viewing pleasure, although still only limited interest in the 'Open Gallery' concept. You'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ Please note (in case you missed the recent 'PUG image sizes' thread). There is a slight change in how images are displayed. Any image too large to display without scrolling on most desktop monitors, will be seen at a reduced size. In this gallery the images most affected by this are those by Bong, Matthew Hunt, John Coyle and Bruce Walker. To view an image at its original size, just click on the displayed image - the original size image should appear in a new overlaid window (if you have javascript disabled, the original size image will still appear but you will need to use the browser's 'back' button to return to the gallery). If you have problems with this, please let me know. I've tested it on Firefox 3, IE8, Opera 10, Chrome 9 and Safari 5 (Win version) and it seems to be working OK (but how did Chrome get to version 9 so quickly?). Next up: April - Memories of Kodachrome. (PJ - this was your suggestion, so I assume there will be a submission from you.) Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html Increased image size limits apply for the April and future galleries (see the submission guidelines for details). Well, I'm off to bed - see you in a few hours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2011 - 039 - GDG
Thanks for the comments! And thanks for the correction, Ann! I've updated the photo (title, caption) now. :-) On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: It's a beautiful shot! ... but it isn't a crane. :-) Tip: cranes fly with their necks extended straight out... egrets and herons with the neck position as on your bird. Great Egret is what it is. (used to be called Great White Heron, too) The yellow bill and the black legs are other clues and you did say it was huge. :_) Interesting and nice that it has your signature style even though you are photographing something that isn't normally in your subject range. The bird's position in the sky and the tone of the whole thing is really stunning.. maybe you shoudl do more!! ann Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'm not a wildlife or bird photographer, normally ... I was out on my walk this morning with it fitted to the E-1, photographing landscape and trees, when this huge white crane drifted into view. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5500881188/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5500881188/ Here's a special bonus for this photo: a larger version at http://homepage.mac.com/godders/039-craneinflight.jpg I think this photo needs the bigger size so you can see the whites of its eye. ;-) enjoy! Godfrey -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2011 - 039 - GDG
It's totally lovely. I might consider cropping to put the bird either at the 1/3-1/3 point or center, but anyhow. However, I'm wondering what an E-1 is and how a walk can be fitted to it. -T Hmm, some words got snipped there somehow. ... the new-old Nikkor-H 85mm f/1.8 ... is what it was referring to. ;-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This seems backwards
On 3/5/2011 3:27 AM, Larry Colen wrote: It seems that the more serious photography I do, the lower the percentage of time I spend actually taking pictures. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Larry, you're a programmer, right? So you ought to know that 80-20 rule - 80% of time you analyze requirements, design, plan, scratch your head etc, and only 20% of time you actually write code. So long as you don't go way below the 20% waterline - you're fine, methinks. No, seriously, if you are being serious, it necessarily means lots of planning, preparation, pre-visualization, and a lot of post-effort - editing, dealing with people for whom you do the photography and so on. So I see nothing that is specifically backwards here. Or I misunderstood your question... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tripod Coffee
Left you comment on the blog page. On 3/3/2011 8:40 PM, AlunFoto wrote: There's a story to this one, so I'll only provide the blog link. It's about a small moment of improvised achievement, and a nice day out. http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/tripod-coffee.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Free Time Management Workshop
2011/3/6 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Even non-native speakers will jump on an opportunity. I thought most of us non-natives were regarded as odd. :-) I think nutty is the term used. That's our prime condition. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tripod Coffee
I noticed that. Jostein :-) 2011/3/6 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Left you comment on the blog page. On 3/3/2011 8:40 PM, AlunFoto wrote: There's a story to this one, so I'll only provide the blog link. It's about a small moment of improvised achievement, and a nice day out. http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/tripod-coffee.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?
On 3/4/2011 11:00 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: I think Jostein's below comment explains why SilkyPix developer produces a better looking output: It might be that SilkyPix' understanding of proprietary data gives it an edge in the processing. I use LightZone and still like it very much. However, in spite of my attempts at slight exposure compensation (using K20D) to expose to the right, LightZone displays the default images as 1/2 stops or more underexposed. They simply look lifeless at first sight. The same pef files look different (properly exposed) under SilkyPix. Chiming in here. Bulent, personally I resolved to using LightRoom which I find consistent and convenient. I am thinking that the curves that you mention are somewhat similar to the secret ingredients of fine chefs. I don't think that you can absolutely match the way one piece of RAW software makes it happen on the other such software. You can try to do so my trial and error or by shooting some very controlled shots (such as color targets under well defined lighting) and work from there, but personally I think it will be a bit of a Sisyphus' labor. My understanding that more recent Pentax own software is based on SilkyPix engine. It therefore would stand to reason that SilkyPix would have a bit of 'advantage' over others, but like I said - LR does it for me and LR 3.0 was a very welcome improvement in debayering algorithm and other aspects of processing. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT So, cyclists,....
On Mar 6, 2011, at 5:51 AM, mike wilson wrote: ... how are your downhill skills? Wow, that was fun! Thanks for sharing Mike. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT So, cyclists,....
Damn, that was a long hill. I like how the crowds get deep at all the points where serious injury is highest. Personally, however, I like the dog the best. I'm sure these guys had thought about that whole course and a dog randomly wanders out in front of them. On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Mar 6, 2011, at 5:51 AM, mike wilson wrote: ... how are your downhill skills? Wow, that was fun! Thanks for sharing Mike. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2011 - 039 - GDG
On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'm not a wildlife or bird photographer, normally ... I was out on my walk this morning with it fitted to the E-1, photographing landscape and trees, when this huge white crane drifted into view. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5500881188/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5500881188/ Here's a special bonus for this photo: a larger version at http://homepage.mac.com/godders/039-craneinflight.jpg Nice. Painterly. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up!
On 11-03-06 7:35 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Evenin' all Everything from big weather to no weather Lots of good stuff for your viewing pleasure, although still only limited interest in the 'Open Gallery' concept. You'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ On my first glance through this the thought that came immediately to mind was, wow! there's a great deal of talent on this list. My faves include, * Dreaming of a White Christmas by Henk Terhell * Before the Storm by George K. Vlachou * Snow Devil by Ann Sanfedele But the best in show has got to be, * Lofoten by Dag Thrane Dag, I hate you. ;) A terrific gallery. Thank you for all your work, Brian! -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!
On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:15 PM, mike wilson wrote: On 04/03/2011 16:29, Eric Weir wrote: After reading Jostein's response to Mike I realized I shoulda been writing to Mike! My apologies, Mike! Thank *you* for the very clear explanation. Er, no. You were right the first time - I just clarified a small technical point. Do you use google mail, by any chance? Thanks for correcting me again, Mike. I'm a member of a couple of google groups, but don't use google mail. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT So, cyclists,....
On Mar 6, 2011, at 4:51, mike wilson wrote: ... how are your downhill skills? This needs sound on and full screen for best effect. http://www.wimp.com/urbanchile/ Note the correct attire. I wimped out at passing the sheets of corrugated iron, end on, at about 30mph. That was fun. Thanks! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!
On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! That was my complaint about Windows. Don't have that complaint anymore. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up!
Good gallery, speaking as someone who looked hard and found nothing of my own to submit. I really like The Optimist. On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Evenin' all Everything from big weather to no weather Lots of good stuff for your viewing pleasure, although still only limited interest in the 'Open Gallery' concept. You'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ Please note (in case you missed the recent 'PUG image sizes' thread). There is a slight change in how images are displayed. Any image too large to display without scrolling on most desktop monitors, will be seen at a reduced size. In this gallery the images most affected by this are those by Bong, Matthew Hunt, John Coyle and Bruce Walker. To view an image at its original size, just click on the displayed image - the original size image should appear in a new overlaid window (if you have javascript disabled, the original size image will still appear but you will need to use the browser's 'back' button to return to the gallery). If you have problems with this, please let me know. I've tested it on Firefox 3, IE8, Opera 10, Chrome 9 and Safari 5 (Win version) and it seems to be working OK (but how did Chrome get to version 9 so quickly?). Next up: April - Memories of Kodachrome. (PJ - this was your suggestion, so I assume there will be a submission from you.) Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html Increased image size limits apply for the April and future galleries (see the submission guidelines for details). Well, I'm off to bed - see you in a few hours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!
On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:43 PM, mike wilson wrote: On 05/03/2011 22:25, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! I'm still hoping for total annihilation of MS, Google and Adobe when the battle for omniscience kicks off. With a side order of Apple obliteration. My first UNIX install will begin shortly. I spent a whole year trying to transition into Unix before I finally threw in the towel and bought a Mac. To think, all the time lost to that failed effort when I could have gone to work immediately if I'd gone straight to Mac in the first place. I do have to say, if I'd been working with a new machine, not even necessarily a high-powered one, just adequate, Unix mighta worked out fine for me. As I was, my thinking was, If I can get a have decent installation running on this old junk, I'll buy a new machine. But I am really not sorry that I went Mac. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - the coffee shop portraits
On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Another in this long-running series. ISO 3200, DA* 60-250, and K-5, f8, 1/160th, 60mm. Shot with live view with the camera in my lap. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12780173size=lg Nice, sharp, love the expression on his face. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Got You Covered, Mom
On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12780172 K-5, DA* 60-250, f5.6, 1/50th, ISO 400, 250mm Wow! Sweet. Nice capture. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up!
Works fine in Safari 5 on a Mac. On Mar 6, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Evenin' all Everything from big weather to no weather Lots of good stuff for your viewing pleasure, although still only limited interest in the 'Open Gallery' concept. You'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ Please note (in case you missed the recent 'PUG image sizes' thread). There is a slight change in how images are displayed. Any image too large to display without scrolling on most desktop monitors, will be seen at a reduced size. In this gallery the images most affected by this are those by Bong, Matthew Hunt, John Coyle and Bruce Walker. To view an image at its original size, just click on the displayed image - the original size image should appear in a new overlaid window (if you have javascript disabled, the original size image will still appear but you will need to use the browser's 'back' button to return to the gallery). If you have problems with this, please let me know. I've tested it on Firefox 3, IE8, Opera 10, Chrome 9 and Safari 5 (Win version) and it seems to be working OK (but how did Chrome get to version 9 so quickly?). Next up: April - Memories of Kodachrome. (PJ - this was your suggestion, so I assume there will be a submission from you.) Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html Increased image size limits apply for the April and future galleries (see the submission guidelines for details). Well, I'm off to bed - see you in a few hours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fox tracks
On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, AlunFoto wrote: Hope I stop short of inundating you guys. :-) I don't. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Hoboken train station
Just so you know... that is the real color... (at least, what I'm seeing on my monitor is as close to it as possible) in fact, I actually slightly desaturated it. There are gilded panels near the ceiling and that, in combo with the late afternoon light coming in made for the glow. anyway, thanks :-) ann Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps- 2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1206929219_wgRuT/Large ann That's a nice shot, captures some great body language. I'd prefer the colour cast to be naturalised though. Magnificent station, too. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fox tracks
On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, AlunFoto wrote: Hope I stop short of inundating you guys. :-) I don't. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?
There are several of areas of differences where image quality is concerned with raw conversion. Let's consider the process, to first order approximation: - chroma interpolation is the stage where the raw processor takes the bayer matrix data and extracts from it RGB channel organized data ... an intensity map of RGB values layered one on top of the other to produce the final full spectrum color image ... also called demosaicking. - gamma interpolation is the stage where the linear capture gamma of the sensor is curved to approximate the 2D-PDE gamma response of the human eye. This involves compressing high values together and expanding low values out to one degree or another. - defect removal is where the raw conversion isolates obviously anomalous values (eg: a single photosite's 255 value next to surrounding photosites with 100-110 values indicates that this is a hot or stuck photosite value). - camera calibration profile application is the step where the characteristics of a particular camera are brought to bear in adjusting the final balance of RGB channel mix. Different raw processing algorithms perform each of these operations slightly differently, but the largest influence on the image quality, at least with regards to color and tonal values, is the last step of applying a camera calibration profile. This is the part where Silkypix' close association with Pentax might have some small advantage over other raw processors when used at the raw conversion defaults. Why? Because Pentax shares both their internal camera calibration profiles along with details of how to read the in-camera image processor settings embedded in the raw file as metadata with the engineers writing Silkypix. However, this only really affects the quality of the conversion at the defaults. My testing and evaluation of raw processors is getting a little long in the tooth now, but the end sum of about two months testing with all the capable raw processors in the past showed that all of them could achieve very nearly the exact same thing *given sufficient time and expertise in adjusting their settings*. This last can take substantial amounts of effort in some cases. By and large, the current best practices in raw conversion algorithms are those that Adobe is putting into Camera Raw v6.x and Lightroom v3.x, and there are a couple of competitors (Raw Developer is one) that are almost at the same level. Camera Raw and Lightroom have as advantage a semi-open architecture as you can take advantage of the Adobe DNG Profile Editor and generate camera calibration curves which are arbitrarily close to or better than the ones that Pentax uses, depending on your likes and needs. So, in direct answer to your questions, Is there a practical way (other than trial and error) to use/copy/replicate the effect of a curve of, say, Silkypix for another raw developer? Yes. Or, the curves are hidden, embedded, protected etc.? Yes, well, they're either embedded in the application or supplied to the application in data formats that are not easily decomposed, for software other than the Adobe software. But with the appropriate amount of work, the Adobe software can be manipulated to an indistinguishable value. It's important to remember when thinking about this stuff: digital image processing and chemical image processing are separated by a significant chasm. Chemical image processing has to do with the relative behavior of photo-sensitive chemicals by nature of their molecular structures. This is complex but, from the point of view of a photographer working in a darkroom, provides only a limited degrees of freedom from the baseline established by the nature of the recording medium and the interaction with available chemistry. Digital image processing, on the other hand, is all numbers and mathematics. The degrees of freedom in processing a digital image are substantially greater than the degrees of freedom in processing a film image. It simply requires that you understand how to work the mathematics, through software tools, and have sufficient data to work with. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry for cross-posting; no one has replied to this one in the forum I visit every day). I understand that a raw developer software works like the clasical darkroom developer (solution). There are different varieties producing different outputs from the same negative/raw file. In the film days, companies (like Kodak) used to suggest their own developers for their films. However, experienced photographers have always used their favorite film with their favorite developer without necessarily taking those suggestions into account. Now, Pentax suggests Silkypix to develop their raw files. Let us say, I like the look of the raw files developed by Silkypix. And, let us assume that I happen to like Brand X Raw Developer, which is very good in certain regards. However, the look of the
Re: PESO 2011 - 039 - GDG
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Thanks for the comments! And thanks for the correction, Ann! I've updated the photo (title, caption) now. :-) 'Welks Whenever I get to make a bird ID thats correct before Christian gets to it , I'm happy :-) ann On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: It's a beautiful shot! ... but it isn't a crane. :-) Tip: cranes fly with their necks extended straight out... egrets and herons with the neck position as on your bird. Great Egret is what it is. (used to be called Great White Heron, too) The yellow bill and the black legs are other clues and you did say it was huge. :_) Interesting and nice that it has your signature style even though you are photographing something that isn't normally in your subject range. The bird's position in the sky and the tone of the whole thing is really stunning.. maybe you shoudl do more!! ann Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'm not a wildlife or bird photographer, normally ... I was out on my walk this morning with it fitted to the E-1, photographing landscape and trees, when this huge white crane drifted into view. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5500881188/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5500881188/ Here's a special bonus for this photo: a larger version at http://homepage.mac.com/godders/039-craneinflight.jpg I think this photo needs the bigger size so you can see the whites of its eye. ;-) enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!
Apple still uses you it's just gentler about it. On 3/6/2011 10:29 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! That was my complaint about Windows. Don't have that complaint anymore. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!
Yeah, I thought about that as I was composing the response. The difference, for me anyway, is that even though the Mac is pretty locked-down, too --not really, though -- the Apple people seem to understand human beings better, to know what they're looking for, what will work for them. Everything works. Straight out of the box. It's unobtrusive. In contrast, MS's attempts to be helpful almost always irritated the hell out of me. On Mar 6, 2011, at 11:34 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Apple still uses you it's just gentler about it. On 3/6/2011 10:29 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! That was my complaint about Windows. Don't have that complaint anymore. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The right zoom
Fri Mar 4 21:10:55 CST 2011 P. J. Alling wrote: It's a bit late, but I have experience with the Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~6.5, ... That sounds rather intriguing... (if not kinky). ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The right zoom
Fri Mar 4 21:10:55 CST 2011 P. J. Alling wrote: It's a bit late, but I have experience with the Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~6.5, ... ... and I forgot: Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Geso - Salon des Refusés
The first 7 photos here were dropped into my Declined folder on the PPG :-( http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_3pLhP None of the others that you can see here were submitted (I hid a couple from view that were still up there waiting for review) The annoying thing is that I was resizing to meet the requirements - I'm thinking now I should upload the files just as I load them to my smugmug folders and let them resize. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT So, cyclists,....
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 5:51 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: ... how are your downhill skills? This needs sound on and full screen for best effect. http://www.wimp.com/urbanchile/ Same course, different rider. Mike's guy is more fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0VLouJFNQ -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Serial photography
A week or 2 ago there was a brief discussion in which someone - sorry, can't remember who - suggested the idea of telling a story in 4 photos. By coincidence I ordered a few weeks ago a book called Serial Photography, which arrived yesterday. It's by Harald Mante, a photographer whose books I've mentioned before - Photo Design (my particular favourite) and Colour Design. This new book is about displaying similar pictures in multiples - the strapline of the book is 'Using themed images to improve your photographic skills'. It's full of very interesting ideas and well worth looking at if you get the chance, with numerous ideas for photographic practising, like doing your scales on the piano. I like Harald Mante's books. His pictures are very good but not great - they are about form more than they are about subject matter, but they can make you think; they are deceptively simple. But his greatness is as a teacher of photographic composition. The great photographers of subject matter, such as HCB, are masters of form and composition, which they use as tools to show the subject matter in the most effective way possible, so I think it's very important that photographers try to understand master these techniques, even if it's only to reject them, just as painters like Van Gogh and Picasso were trained in the academic method and went on to reject it. Where this book differs from the story essay is that the traditional story essay is narrative, whereas these photographs are not - their effect comes from the juxtaposition of photographs which are similar, but different enough not to be repetitive. It would, of course, be possible to construct a narrative using this technique, for example by some sort of sequence or time lapse. http://www.harald-mante.de/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement: LX w. 2.8 24mm + extras
On 06/03/2011 2:43 AM, mike wilson wrote: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/Gallery_index.html You mean using java? Must be horrible to realise your own gallery won't work in your present browser configuration. Maybe it doesn't work in your hobbled down browser configuration, but it works fine in my browser. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Geso - Salon des Refusés
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele The first 7 photos here were dropped into my Declined folder on the PPG :-( http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in- the-day/5908739_3pLhP I think that tells us rather a lot about the judges. B None of the others that you can see here were submitted (I hid a couple from view that were still up there waiting for review) The annoying thing is that I was resizing to meet the requirements - I'm thinking now I should upload the files just as I load them to my smugmug folders and let them resize. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up!
Thanks , Bruce ! George's Before the Storm is on my fave's list as well... But Brian's 'Storm in the Gulf' I think is my personal fave, I can't stop looking at it. (I think Brian put this subject up so he could show off :-) ) The gallery is overall really terrific - surprised there were no flood photos I almost used one from the 1993 midwest floods couple more personal stand outs for me are France Waller's Me in Denali in Orange really tells the story. (I've been on that bus and route in bad weather, but not as foul as that.) Steve Sharpe's Breaking Wave perfect timing. ann Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-03-06 7:35 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Evenin' all Everything from big weather to no weather Lots of good stuff for your viewing pleasure, although still only limited interest in the 'Open Gallery' concept. You'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ On my first glance through this the thought that came immediately to mind was, wow! there's a great deal of talent on this list. My faves include, * Dreaming of a White Christmas by Henk Terhell * Before the Storm by George K. Vlachou * Snow Devil by Ann Sanfedele But the best in show has got to be, * Lofoten by Dag Thrane Dag, I hate you. ;) A terrific gallery. Thank you for all your work, Brian! -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso - Salon des Refusés
Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele The first 7 photos here were dropped into my Declined folder on the PPG :-( http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in- the-day/5908739_3pLhP I think that tells us rather a lot about the judges. B thanks :-) Thought it odd that 10 suddenly appeared all at once... sounds like I got through us but got rejected by the staff oh well ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Totally OT - Mark!
I just realized that this story might be sound especially funny to PDMLers. First, historical background: In Russia, the flagman institution in Physics education is Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT), so-called PhysTech. The main way of getting to it is by a suburban train (about 25 minutes from the one of the main railway stations in Moscow). The station where PhysTech is located is called Novodachnaya. A lot of people (students, faculty) usually get off at it in the morning from 2 trains that arrive there between 8 and 9am. The previous station, where seemingly nothing significant is located (and usually much fewer people use it) called Mark. There is a legend that tells why that station is called that way. One of the famous professors, Mark Aiserman (a world-reknown specialist and an author of a textbook on analytical mechanics) was afraid to miss his stop, and so, he was asking all the students and colleagues who he saw entering the train to remind him about the station. And since he was always taking the train at the same time, even the train engineer knew that, and was announcing via PA system: Mark, the next station is Novodachnaya So, the previous station started being called Mark. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portrait Workshop
Sounds interesting. Can you share the PDF? -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/3/6 Jens p...@planfoto.dk: Some friends at oeur local camera club (Køge Foto Klub) are doing a portrait/lighting workshop. We meet the second weddensday of every month (not July and December). We want to test 10 of the best lighting samples in the Visatec book: http://www.photal.nl/fabrikanten/Visatec/PDF_files/Visatec_portfolio_2_E.pdf We do one lighting sample on every venue. So, we'll do 10 workshops in one year. These are samples of mine from the workshop sessions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157625815965480/ The first two workshops was not from the book: 1. One lamp samples - Rembrandt, Butterfly and Edge. 2. One lamp sample from the earlier, printed Visatec book, which I am fortunate enough to own. When we're finished we'll make our own book (pdf-file), similar to the original Visatec Guide. I have allready made the first four pages :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Stormy Day Stroller
I enjoy shooting in the rain. It's always interesting to see how people deal with it. This guy seems to be enjoying the weather. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12783733 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso - Salon des Refusés
Some excellent photos there. The Pentax Gallery criteria is hard to predict, although over-saturated landscapes seem to be a shoe-in. Paul On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele The first 7 photos here were dropped into my Declined folder on the PPG :-( http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in- the-day/5908739_3pLhP I think that tells us rather a lot about the judges. B thanks :-) Thought it odd that 10 suddenly appeared all at once... sounds like I got through us but got rejected by the staff oh well ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Totally OT - Mark!
Thats a great story! ann Igor Roshchin wrote: I just realized that this story might be sound especially funny to PDMLers. First, historical background: In Russia, the flagman institution in Physics education is Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT), so-called PhysTech. The main way of getting to it is by a suburban train (about 25 minutes from the one of the main railway stations in Moscow). The station where PhysTech is located is called Novodachnaya. A lot of people (students, faculty) usually get off at it in the morning from 2 trains that arrive there between 8 and 9am. The previous station, where seemingly nothing significant is located (and usually much fewer people use it) called Mark. There is a legend that tells why that station is called that way. One of the famous professors, Mark Aiserman (a world-reknown specialist and an author of a textbook on analytical mechanics) was afraid to miss his stop, and so, he was asking all the students and colleagues who he saw entering the train to remind him about the station. And since he was always taking the train at the same time, even the train engineer knew that, and was announcing via PA system: Mark, the next station is Novodachnaya So, the previous station started being called Mark. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The right zoom
On 3/6/2011 12:31 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Fri Mar 4 21:10:55 CST 2011 P. J. Alling wrote: It's a bit late, but I have experience with the Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~6.5, ... That sounds rather intriguing... (if not kinky). I could only wish, but unfortunatly it's just awkwardly written... ;-) -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT So, cyclists,....
On 06/03/2011 13:51, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson ... how are your downhill skills? This needs sound on and full screen for best effect. http://www.wimp.com/urbanchile/ Note the correct attire. I wimped out at passing the sheets of corrugated iron, end on, at about 30mph. speaking as someone who broke his wrist failing to negotiate at 2 mph a bit of pavement raised less than one inch from the road, I'll give that a miss. You should have worn your pin stripe. Then you wouldn't have earned your wrist pin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: video on supermacro by a Pentax K200D user -- Oops!
On 06/03/2011 17:34, P. J. Alling wrote: Apple still uses you it's just gentler about it. You must have a silencer on your wallet. On 3/6/2011 10:29 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Do you use google mail, by any chance? You don't use Google mail - it uses YOU! That was my complaint about Windows. Don't have that complaint anymore. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso - Salon des Refusés
I rather like the ironic whimsy of the Criminal Courts Building - 1980 with it's unintended admonishment to Lead a clean life. On 3/6/2011 12:37 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The first 7 photos here were dropped into my Declined folder on the PPG :-( http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back-in-the-day/5908739_3pLhP None of the others that you can see here were submitted (I hid a couple from view that were still up there waiting for review) The annoying thing is that I was resizing to meet the requirements - I'm thinking now I should upload the files just as I load them to my smugmug folders and let them resize. ann -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement: LX w. 2.8 24mm + extras
On 06/03/2011 18:53, William Robb wrote: On 06/03/2011 2:43 AM, mike wilson wrote: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/Gallery_index.html You mean using java? Must be horrible to realise your own gallery won't work in your present browser configuration. Maybe it doesn't work in your hobbled down browser configuration, but it works fine in my browser. I can allow it to work but Java and some other functions are not allowed by default. Bite me once, won't get fooled again and all that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement: LX w. 2.8 24mm + extras
On 06/03/2011 18:53, William Robb wrote: On 06/03/2011 2:43 AM, mike wilson wrote: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/Gallery_index.html You mean using java? Must be horrible to realise your own gallery won't work in your present browser configuration. Maybe it doesn't work in your hobbled down browser configuration, but it works fine in my browser. So what was the clever comment about, if not page construction? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting
Incident light meters work well too. On 2/9/2011 9:40 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Dammit! I knew I was forgetting something last time I left the camera shop! Been meaning to get one of those for a while. I've clearly got a lot to learn, and appreciate all the help everyone's giving me. Thanks, Paul. On 2/9/2011 8:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: If the scene you're shooting is primarily snow covered, you should overexpose by about two stops. At a centered meter reading, you'll get gray snow. The alternative is to take your meter reading from a gray card. Paul -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting
The problem with an incident light meter is that the measurement should, though it doesn't have to be, depending on conditions, be made from the /subject/ location. On 2/9/2011 10:18 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Thanks for the explanation, Collin. When Paul said to overexpose, I was actually thinking it sounded counter-intuitive -- that you'd want to under-expose in a snowy situation. But, it makes sense now that you explained that the meter assumes a neutral grey. So, I'm assuming that in extra-low-light situations, I'd want to under-expose by a couple of stops in that case. No. It's not amount the amount of light. The reason you overexpose snow or anything else that fills your frame with white is simply because it's white and very reflective. Like Collin said, the meter assumes everything is 18% gray and reflects the amount of light that an 18% gray surface would reflect. So shooting a white subject in low light, you would still overexpose. Shooting something totally black, you would want to underexpose by about one stop, since black doesn't reflect much light.. Again, using the gray card and exposing to the meter reading is usually better in really tricky lighting situations. Another alternative is an incident meter, which measures the light source rather than the scene. As with the gray card, you don't have to correct for the reflectivity of the subject when shooting with an incident meter. Paul Glad I found this out before getting too deep into the roll! -- Walt On 2/9/2011 8:40 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: No!!! Always overexpose snow by 2 stops. Why? Because an averaging meter expects a mid-gray tone. The result will be gray snow unless you open it up, either with the shutter, aperture, or both. You can also change to iso32. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Portrait Party
On Mar 6, 2011, at 4:44 AM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen [...] But since my trip to LA, when shooting for myself, I've been trying to not take pictures that aren't winners. As a result, I've taken much fewer bad shots. the important questions is, have you taken more good shots? To a first approximation, I haven't taken any shots that weren't for someone else, or practicing a technique. Some of those were good. A couple, I think, very good. But, I haven't really taken any photos for fun. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Hoboken train station
Do you go to Herald Square - I saw a lot of movies there in the 50's 60's. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Peso - Hoboken train station So thanks to the guys in order that I saw the posts to Tim, Dan, Paul, Jeff, Jack, Ken, John and Steve ! As to what I was doing in Hoboken... you may regret wondering ... about once a month or sometimes more I go out to the Pavonia Newport area of Jersey City to shop .. There is a Target there, the tax on no food is less than NY, it is actually a cheaper trip for me on the PATH train than going anyhwere in NYC. There is also a great Salvation ARmy Thrift ... all walking distance from the Pavornia Newport stop on the PATH... However there are two PATH trains.. and I got on the wrong one. I used to go to HOboken to get a train to go upstate to a friends house... this time I just wasn't noticing that I got on the HOboken train and not the JERsey CIty one. That was earlier in the afternoon... Hoboken and JErsey City are right next to each other and there is a thing called the light rail that goes from that station to the big shopping mall near where my stores are 9I could have stayed underground and just gotten on another PATH but it was a nice day so.. I hopped on the light rail... THEN as I was shooting the Manhattan skyline from the elevated train I noticed a people walking along the river and damned if they weren't following a real path that went between the two locations. After I shopped I found the walkway and went back to Hoboken to come back into NY . By now it is golden light time. and, as you see, it was golden. The station is old and very beautiful inside and part of the outside. It is also a terminal for a ferry that goes across to the financial district but it is a bit beyond my budget. and thats, as Paul Harvey would have said... the rest of the story ann drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. What were you doing in Hoboken? -Original Message- -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:30 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso - Hoboken train station http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/1538920 6_z3saz/1/1206929219_wgRuT/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting
Pentax has a newly scanned, (the old scans pretty much killed all of the example photos, the new ones are much better), K1000 manual on line in PDF. http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/K1000%20Instruction%20Manual.pdf On 2/11/2011 4:05 AM, Thibouille wrote: Hey that's funny, John. I didn't know KM and K1000 was 'Full frame' metering instead of CWA, as I assumed. Interesting :) Learnt something. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT So, cyclists,....
I've done the Haleakala (around 10,000 feet @ the top) down hill on Maui several times (used 'Cruiser Bob's outfit) several years ago - and am pretty sure we went at least 30mph in spots. We were required to wear full face helmets as used in auto racing. They had 'mega brakes' installed on some heavy duty frame bicycles. A little intimidating, especially on the bus ride up as the guides tell you about all the possible dangers - by the time you get to the top you're asking yourself if you still want to do it. But once you start it is quite a rush you only have to pedal for a very small part of the total trip to the bottom. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: OT So, cyclists, From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson ... how are your downhill skills? This needs sound on and full screen for best effect. http://www.wimp.com/urbanchile/ Note the correct attire. I wimped out at passing the sheets of corrugated iron, end on, at about 30mph. speaking as someone who broke his wrist failing to negotiate at 2 mph a bit of pavement raised less than one inch from the road, I'll give that a miss. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Hoboken train station
Ken Waller wrote: Do you go to Herald Square - I saw a lot of movies there in the 50's 60's. Not if I can avoid it. It's a zoo - and not in a good way :-) The only thing that gets me anywhere near is if need to go to BH. (I catch the PATH at 9th street and 6th ave to get to NJ) ann Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Peso - Hoboken train station So thanks to the guys in order that I saw the posts to Tim, Dan, Paul, Jeff, Jack, Ken, John and Steve ! As to what I was doing in Hoboken... you may regret wondering ... about once a month or sometimes more I go out to the Pavonia Newport area of Jersey City to shop .. There is a Target there, the tax on no food is less than NY, it is actually a cheaper trip for me on the PATH train than going anyhwere in NYC. There is also a great Salvation ARmy Thrift ... all walking distance from the Pavornia Newport stop on the PATH... However there are two PATH trains.. and I got on the wrong one. I used to go to HOboken to get a train to go upstate to a friends house... this time I just wasn't noticing that I got on the HOboken train and not the JERsey CIty one. That was earlier in the afternoon... Hoboken and JErsey City are right next to each other and there is a thing called the light rail that goes from that station to the big shopping mall near where my stores are 9I could have stayed underground and just gotten on another PATH but it was a nice day so.. I hopped on the light rail... THEN as I was shooting the Manhattan skyline from the elevated train I noticed a people walking along the river and damned if they weren't following a real path that went between the two locations. After I shopped I found the walkway and went back to Hoboken to come back into NY . By now it is golden light time. and, as you see, it was golden. The station is old and very beautiful inside and part of the outside. It is also a terminal for a ferry that goes across to the financial district but it is a bit beyond my budget. and thats, as Paul Harvey would have said... the rest of the story ann drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. What were you doing in Hoboken? -Original Message- -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:30 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso - Hoboken train station http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/1538920 6_z3saz/1/1206929219_wgRuT/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Totally OT - Mark!
Yeah. On Mar 6, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Thats a great story! ann Igor Roshchin wrote: I just realized that this story might be sound especially funny to PDMLers. First, historical background: In Russia, the flagman institution in Physics education is Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT), so-called PhysTech. The main way of getting to it is by a suburban train (about 25 minutes from the one of the main railway stations in Moscow). The station where PhysTech is located is called Novodachnaya. A lot of people (students, faculty) usually get off at it in the morning from 2 trains that arrive there between 8 and 9am. The previous station, where seemingly nothing significant is located (and usually much fewer people use it) called Mark. There is a legend that tells why that station is called that way. One of the famous professors, Mark Aiserman (a world-reknown specialist and an author of a textbook on analytical mechanics) was afraid to miss his stop, and so, he was asking all the students and colleagues who he saw entering the train to remind him about the station. And since he was always taking the train at the same time, even the train engineer knew that, and was announcing via PA system: Mark, the next station is Novodachnaya So, the previous station started being called Mark. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up!
Thanks again Brian for your time and effort put into the PUG ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: March PUG is up! Evenin' all Everything from big weather to no weather Lots of good stuff for your viewing pleasure, although still only limited interest in the 'Open Gallery' concept. You'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ Please note (in case you missed the recent 'PUG image sizes' thread). There is a slight change in how images are displayed. Any image too large to display without scrolling on most desktop monitors, will be seen at a reduced size. In this gallery the images most affected by this are those by Bong, Matthew Hunt, John Coyle and Bruce Walker. To view an image at its original size, just click on the displayed image - the original size image should appear in a new overlaid window (if you have javascript disabled, the original size image will still appear but you will need to use the browser's 'back' button to return to the gallery). If you have problems with this, please let me know. I've tested it on Firefox 3, IE8, Opera 10, Chrome 9 and Safari 5 (Win version) and it seems to be working OK (but how did Chrome get to version 9 so quickly?). Next up: April - Memories of Kodachrome. (PJ - this was your suggestion, so I assume there will be a submission from you.) Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html Increased image size limits apply for the April and future galleries (see the submission guidelines for details). Well, I'm off to bed - see you in a few hours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
I don't know of any bona fide, examples of cameras being ruined but I have ruined clear plastic parts cleaning them with off brand caned air cleaners. I have had no problems with relatively low pressure systems such as dust off, as long as you handle them correctly., (as Bill described). The brand I currently use is 3M Dust remover, it's less expensive than dust off but just as reliable. On 2/7/2011 11:10 PM, William Robb wrote: On 07/02/2011 9:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? I always make people cringe when I say this, but I use canned gas, specifically Dust-Off. To all the nattering nabobs, I say I've yet to damage anything ever using canned gas. I ran a poll one time over on ForumsNeurotica when the whimperers of doom cried that surely the sun would explode and all life in the solar system would be obliterated in a cataclysm of fusion because of my habits regarding sensor cleaning, asking if anyone could come up with a bona fide and reputable report about canned gas wrecking a camera. The silence was astounding. Caveat: Always squirt a wee shot of gas anywhere but inside your camera before blowing off the sensor on the off chance that there actually is some liquid propellant in the nozzle. On the very rare occasion that I need a wet clean, I use a visible dust swab and whatever is in the ridiculously overpriced bottle of poo that I had to buy to keep my pusher happy. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
On 2/7/2011 11:43 PM, William Robb wrote: On 07/02/2011 10:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: - but it just seemed wrong somehow Wrong is tying a sheep to a lamp post and calling it a rec centre. I think that's a little beyond wrong... -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Free Time Management Workshop
2011/3/6 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: I think nutty is the term used. That's our prime condition. hey, don't zoom in on it... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Hoboken train station
Sorry Ann, I meant Journal Square in Jersey City. Although I did go to Herald Square also Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Peso - Hoboken train station Ken Waller wrote: Do you go to Herald Square - I saw a lot of movies there in the 50's 60's. Not if I can avoid it. It's a zoo - and not in a good way :-) The only thing that gets me anywhere near is if need to go to BH. (I catch the PATH at 9th street and 6th ave to get to NJ) ann Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Peso - Hoboken train station So thanks to the guys in order that I saw the posts to Tim, Dan, Paul, Jeff, Jack, Ken, John and Steve ! As to what I was doing in Hoboken... you may regret wondering ... about once a month or sometimes more I go out to the Pavonia Newport area of Jersey City to shop .. There is a Target there, the tax on no food is less than NY, it is actually a cheaper trip for me on the PATH train than going anyhwere in NYC. There is also a great Salvation ARmy Thrift ... all walking distance from the Pavornia Newport stop on the PATH... However there are two PATH trains.. and I got on the wrong one. I used to go to HOboken to get a train to go upstate to a friends house... this time I just wasn't noticing that I got on the HOboken train and not the JERsey CIty one. That was earlier in the afternoon... Hoboken and JErsey City are right next to each other and there is a thing called the light rail that goes from that station to the big shopping mall near where my stores are 9I could have stayed underground and just gotten on another PATH but it was a nice day so.. I hopped on the light rail... THEN as I was shooting the Manhattan skyline from the elevated train I noticed a people walking along the river and damned if they weren't following a real path that went between the two locations. After I shopped I found the walkway and went back to Hoboken to come back into NY . By now it is golden light time. and, as you see, it was golden. The station is old and very beautiful inside and part of the outside. It is also a terminal for a ferry that goes across to the financial district but it is a bit beyond my budget. and thats, as Paul Harvey would have said... the rest of the story ann drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. What were you doing in Hoboken? -Original Message- -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:30 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso - Hoboken train station http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/1538920 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Geso - Salon des Refusés
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele The first 7 photos here were dropped into my Declined folder on the PPG :-( http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back- in- the-day/5908739_3pLhP I think that tells us rather a lot about the judges. B thanks :-) Thought it odd that 10 suddenly appeared all at once... sounds like I got through us but got rejected by the staff oh well ann whoever rejected those doesn't know a good photo from a bite on the ass. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Advice solicitation for analog shooting
The problem with an incident light meter is that the measurement should, though it doesn't have to be, depending on conditions, be made from the /subject/ location. in my experience that's rarely necessary - you can usually find some light right where you are which is the same as that falling on the subject. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Free Time Management Workshop
2011/3/6 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2011/3/6 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: I think nutty is the term used. That's our prime condition. hey, don't zoom in on it... We got to get to the root of it, Ecke. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Hoboken train station
On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Do you go to Herald Square - I saw a lot of movies there in the 50's 60's. Not if I can avoid it. It's a zoo - and not in a good way :-) The only thing that gets me anywhere near is if need to go to BH. (I catch the PATH at 9th street and 6th ave to get to NJ) When I first moved to NY, I lived in a transient hotel on 35th street, just a few doors off Broadway. My roommates were of the grey, furry variety. I used to go to Macy's and hang, because it was a good 20 degrees warmer than my room. I lived on chinese fast food and cheap pizza. Hunan chicken, fried rice and an egg roll sold for less than five bucks at the joint on the corner of 35th and Broadway. Paul Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Peso - Hoboken train station So thanks to the guys in order that I saw the posts to Tim, Dan, Paul, Jeff, Jack, Ken, John and Steve ! As to what I was doing in Hoboken... you may regret wondering ... about once a month or sometimes more I go out to the Pavonia Newport area of Jersey City to shop .. There is a Target there, the tax on no food is less than NY, it is actually a cheaper trip for me on the PATH train than going anyhwere in NYC. There is also a great Salvation ARmy Thrift ... all walking distance from the Pavornia Newport stop on the PATH... However there are two PATH trains.. and I got on the wrong one. I used to go to HOboken to get a train to go upstate to a friends house... this time I just wasn't noticing that I got on the HOboken train and not the JERsey CIty one. That was earlier in the afternoon... Hoboken and JErsey City are right next to each other and there is a thing called the light rail that goes from that station to the big shopping mall near where my stores are 9I could have stayed underground and just gotten on another PATH but it was a nice day so.. I hopped on the light rail... THEN as I was shooting the Manhattan skyline from the elevated train I noticed a people walking along the river and damned if they weren't following a real path that went between the two locations. After I shopped I found the walkway and went back to Hoboken to come back into NY . By now it is golden light time. and, as you see, it was golden. The station is old and very beautiful inside and part of the outside. It is also a terminal for a ferry that goes across to the financial district but it is a bit beyond my budget. and thats, as Paul Harvey would have said... the rest of the story ann drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. What were you doing in Hoboken? -Original Message- -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:30 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso - Hoboken train station http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/1538920 6_z3saz/1/1206929219_wgRuT/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Free Time Management Workshop
2011/3/6 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: That's our prime condition. hey, don't zoom in on it... We got to get to the root of it, Ecke. you mean you need to get your rear element checked? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS: more stuff.
#1 Two Super Program bodies for sale. Both for $20 shipped (US). One powers up but the film advance just keeps going and going and going. The other does not power up. #2 K1000. Older, pre-China, with M50/2. Modest wear. $50 shipped. #3 Super Program in good shape, with A50/1.7. Moderate use. $100. #4 A50/1.7. Has that broken spring under the aperture ring. U-fix. $25 PayPal. And in case you happen to have a 4x5 reducing back for a Kodak/Eastman 8x10 ... Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Totally OT - Mark!
LOL On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yeah. On Mar 6, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Thats a great story! ann Igor Roshchin wrote: I just realized that this story might be sound especially funny to PDMLers. First, historical background: In Russia, the flagman institution in Physics education is Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT), so-called PhysTech. The main way of getting to it is by a suburban train (about 25 minutes from the one of the main railway stations in Moscow). The station where PhysTech is located is called Novodachnaya. A lot of people (students, faculty) usually get off at it in the morning from 2 trains that arrive there between 8 and 9am. The previous station, where seemingly nothing significant is located (and usually much fewer people use it) called Mark. There is a legend that tells why that station is called that way. One of the famous professors, Mark Aiserman (a world-reknown specialist and an author of a textbook on analytical mechanics) was afraid to miss his stop, and so, he was asking all the students and colleagues who he saw entering the train to remind him about the station. And since he was always taking the train at the same time, even the train engineer knew that, and was announcing via PA system: Mark, the next station is Novodachnaya So, the previous station started being called Mark. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting
On 3/6/2011 2:36 PM, Bob W wrote: The problem with an incident light meter is that the measurement should, though it doesn't have to be, depending on conditions, be made from the /subject/ location. in my experience that's rarely necessary - you can usually find some light right where you are which is the same as that falling on the subject. B I thought I implied that, Oh, well. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New online Landscape Photography Magazine
It looks good, but, I start to get antsy the minute that anyone uses the word bespoke, and the editor uses it in the first paragraph. Still I'll give them a chance for now. On 3/3/2011 5:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Looks interesting. I'm not sure if they intend to keep it free but the price is right for now :-) It's available for online reading (via Issuu) or as a downloadable pdf. http://landscapephotographymagazine.com/2011/02/issue-1/ Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Hoboken train station
Ken Waller wrote: Sorry Ann, I meant Journal Square in Jersey City. Although I did go to Herald Square also Ah! well that's not so attractive these days either! I've only been there to change to a regular train from a PATH one recently what was your name again??? ann Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Peso - Hoboken train station Ken Waller wrote: Do you go to Herald Square - I saw a lot of movies there in the 50's 60's. Not if I can avoid it. It's a zoo - and not in a good way :-) The only thing that gets me anywhere near is if need to go to BH. (I catch the PATH at 9th street and 6th ave to get to NJ) ann Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Peso - Hoboken train station So thanks to the guys in order that I saw the posts to Tim, Dan, Paul, Jeff, Jack, Ken, John and Steve ! As to what I was doing in Hoboken... you may regret wondering ... about once a month or sometimes more I go out to the Pavonia Newport area of Jersey City to shop .. There is a Target there, the tax on no food is less than NY, it is actually a cheaper trip for me on the PATH train than going anyhwere in NYC. There is also a great Salvation ARmy Thrift ... all walking distance from the Pavornia Newport stop on the PATH... However there are two PATH trains.. and I got on the wrong one. I used to go to HOboken to get a train to go upstate to a friends house... this time I just wasn't noticing that I got on the HOboken train and not the JERsey CIty one. That was earlier in the afternoon... Hoboken and JErsey City are right next to each other and there is a thing called the light rail that goes from that station to the big shopping mall near where my stores are 9I could have stayed underground and just gotten on another PATH but it was a nice day so.. I hopped on the light rail... THEN as I was shooting the Manhattan skyline from the elevated train I noticed a people walking along the river and damned if they weren't following a real path that went between the two locations. After I shopped I found the walkway and went back to Hoboken to come back into NY . By now it is golden light time. and, as you see, it was golden. The station is old and very beautiful inside and part of the outside. It is also a terminal for a ferry that goes across to the financial district but it is a bit beyond my budget. and thats, as Paul Harvey would have said... the rest of the story ann drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. What were you doing in Hoboken? -Original Message- -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:30 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso - Hoboken train station http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/1538920 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso - Salon des Refusés
Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele The first 7 photos here were dropped into my Declined folder on the PPG :-( http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-City-back- in- the-day/5908739_3pLhP I think that tells us rather a lot about the judges. B thanks :-) Thought it odd that 10 suddenly appeared all at once... sounds like I got through us but got rejected by the staff oh well ann whoever rejected those doesn't know a good photo from a bite on the ass. B Well but sometimes... :-) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up!
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:54 -0500, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Thanks , Bruce ! George's Before the Storm is on my fave's list as well... But Brian's 'Storm in the Gulf' I think is my personal fave, I can't stop looking at it. (I think Brian put this subject up so he could show off :-) ) Well - of course! :-) Actually, one of the curses of maintaining the PUG is that I have to keep changing my mind over what I submit because of too much similarity to what someone else has submitted. I thought 'Storm in the Gulf' only marginally fitted the theme because it's more about the lighthouse than the storm. Anyway, thanks Ann - glad you liked it! My top three (not in any particular order): * George's 'Before the Storm' * Patrick's 'Leuven Sky' * Bong's 'The Optimist' * Dag's 'Lofoten' (OK - top four!) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ The gallery is overall really terrific - surprised there were no flood photos I almost used one from the 1993 midwest floods couple more personal stand outs for me are France Waller's Me in Denali in Orange really tells the story. (I've been on that bus and route in bad weather, but not as foul as that.) Steve Sharpe's Breaking Wave perfect timing. ann Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-03-06 7:35 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Evenin' all Everything from big weather to no weather Lots of good stuff for your viewing pleasure, although still only limited interest in the 'Open Gallery' concept. You'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ On my first glance through this the thought that came immediately to mind was, wow! there's a great deal of talent on this list. My faves include, * Dreaming of a White Christmas by Henk Terhell * Before the Storm by George K. Vlachou * Snow Devil by Ann Sanfedele But the best in show has got to be, * Lofoten by Dag Thrane Dag, I hate you. ;) A terrific gallery. Thank you for all your work, Brian! -bmw -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
