Pentax SMC Pentax DA f1.8 $160 at Amazon.
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Re: OT: Naked Beauty
On 6 Oct 2014, at 02:27, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I'm not familiar with which model this is. Do you happen to know? Its an F4 Phantom - a Viet Nam era jet - Its not in active duty. We still use them over here for door-step milk deliveries in High Wycombe. It was Dan M.'s ride. [...] - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:28:06 AM Subject: OT: Naked Beauty Not my image, but one that really quickens my pulse: http://tinyurl.com/ksn6jfb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Naked Beauty
On 10/6/2014 3:07 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 6 Oct 2014, at 02:27, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I'm not familiar with which model this is. Do you happen to know? Its an F4 Phantom - a Viet Nam era jet - Its not in active duty. We still use them over here for door-step milk deliveries in High Wycombe. It must be fun having milk bottles hit the door step at mach .8. It was Dan M.'s ride. [...] - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:28:06 AM Subject: OT: Naked Beauty Not my image, but one that really quickens my pulse: http://tinyurl.com/ksn6jfb -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Naked Beauty
On 6 Oct 2014, at 08:12, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/6/2014 3:07 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 6 Oct 2014, at 02:27, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I'm not familiar with which model this is. Do you happen to know? Its an F4 Phantom - a Viet Nam era jet - Its not in active duty. We still use them over here for door-step milk deliveries in High Wycombe. It must be fun having milk bottles hit the door step at mach .8. They don't fly them - that would be absurd! They're pulled by a team of draught-stoats. Have you any idea how many mustelids, not including badgers, it would take to pull a Phantom at close to the speed of sound? B It was Dan M.'s ride. [...] - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:28:06 AM Subject: OT: Naked Beauty Not my image, but one that really quickens my pulse: http://tinyurl.com/ksn6jfb -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - In The Mudroom
Lovely kitty, never saw a camera before:) On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/in-the-mudroom This used to be a true mudroom - buildt onto the exterior of the house, no electricity except for the over head light, just bare tongue and groove wood paneling on the walls. We spiffed it up a bit a couple of years ago when we remodeled and it is not heated and integrated into the kitched as additional storage space. Taken with the IR converted K10d and Ricoh XR Rikenon 28mm f2.8 , though there is Little IR effect here even with direct sunlight streaming in. Comments always welcome! Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gloucester cathedral interior pano
Interesting presentation. After inhaling some incense, you'll see a perfectly straight curve g On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Freaky and distorted. But I like it :) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gloucester1.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gloucester cathedral interior pano
Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting presentation. After inhaling some incense, you'll see a perfectly straight curve g Have you ever read The Name of the Rose? :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gloucester cathedral interior pano
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting presentation. After inhaling some incense, you'll see a perfectly straight curve g Have you ever read The Name of the Rose? :-) No, but I saw the movie twice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity - is up!!
Thanks, Dave. That's not a bad idea, so I've noted the spot where I was most likely standing. Might have to take a print along with me when I go for the next season. :) I've been documenting this park in all seasons, though admittedly light on winter. A closeup of the stand of three trees to the left is the subject of my only ever juried exhibition hanging. I think it was in a prior PUG. https://ello.co/brucewalker/post/Of4BVR08GzIrgP5dcQr7tw On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:35 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce Walker's shot would make a nice 4 seasons photo shoot Dave On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Twenty submissions this month - it seems the 'Synchronicity' theme was a popular one. Many and varied subjects, including a few by dedicated souls who took the theme to heart and pressed the shutter at the exact time of the equinox. Well done! We also have our first submission with the 645Z. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Next up for November is 'Motion'. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. * Nominal closing date: 31 October. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity - is up!!
This is a fascinating gallery; the synchronicity theme was a great idea! Quite enjoyed this snapshot from around the globe. On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Twenty submissions this month - it seems the 'Synchronicity' theme was a popular one. Many and varied subjects, including a few by dedicated souls who took the theme to heart and pressed the shutter at the exact time of the equinox. Well done! We also have our first submission with the 645Z. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Next up for November is 'Motion'. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. * Nominal closing date: 31 October. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity - is up!!
Feels like a familiar image, if somewhat further away. IOW, it was a scene to remember. Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 7:03:30 AM Subject: Re: October PUG - Synchronicity - is up!! Thanks, Dave. That's not a bad idea, so I've noted the spot where I was most likely standing. Might have to take a print along with me when I go for the next season. :) I've been documenting this park in all seasons, though admittedly light on winter. A closeup of the stand of three trees to the left is the subject of my only ever juried exhibition hanging. I think it was in a prior PUG. https://ello.co/brucewalker/post/Of4BVR08GzIrgP5dcQr7tw On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:35 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce Walker's shot would make a nice 4 seasons photo shoot Dave On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Twenty submissions this month - it seems the 'Synchronicity' theme was a popular one. Many and varied subjects, including a few by dedicated souls who took the theme to heart and pressed the shutter at the exact time of the equinox. Well done! We also have our first submission with the 645Z. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Next up for November is 'Motion'. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. * Nominal closing date: 31 October. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity - is up!!
BRuck that black and white shot is gorgeous! I think you did show it to us before... or is there yet another shot at a distance, of those.. maybe in color? ann On 10/6/2014 10:03, Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks, Dave. That's not a bad idea, so I've noted the spot where I was most likely standing. Might have to take a print along with me when I go for the next season. :) I've been documenting this park in all seasons, though admittedly light on winter. A closeup of the stand of three trees to the left is the subject of my only ever juried exhibition hanging. I think it was in a prior PUG. https://ello.co/brucewalker/post/Of4BVR08GzIrgP5dcQr7tw On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:35 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce Walker's shot would make a nice 4 seasons photo shoot Dave On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Twenty submissions this month - it seems the 'Synchronicity' theme was a popular one. Many and varied subjects, including a few by dedicated souls who took the theme to heart and pressed the shutter at the exact time of the equinox. Well done! We also have our first submission with the 645Z. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Next up for November is 'Motion'. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. * Nominal closing date: 31 October. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: Dawn Ducks
I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gloucester cathedral interior pano
Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting presentation. After inhaling some incense, you'll see a perfectly straight curve g Have you ever read The Name of the Rose? :-) No, but I saw the movie twice. I never saw the movie but I've read the book at least twice. That image is kind of what I imagine parts of the abbey look like. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
Jack, I like wild ducks (in many different ways). However, I've always struggled getting a good photo of them: I couldn't find a composition that works for me. I like what you've got. If this photo were mine, I probably would try to play with sharpening with masking (on unsharp filter), to highlight the individual ducks. and would consider pushing the contrast just a notch up. The funny thing is that I've seen your photo while working on a gallery where I also had a few duck shots. So, I thought I'd respond in a photo-jam-session type of way: http://42graphy.org/misc/2014-06-26-ducks/ (My apology for invading your thread with my photos.) Cheers, Igor Jack Davis Mon, 06 Oct 2014 08:18:12 -0700 wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
Your ducks are uniquely sharp, Igor. G Are those bubbles in the air in the single duck shot? Thanks for commenting. You'll be receiving a bill for using some of my space. ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 10:37:09 AM Subject: Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks Jack, I like wild ducks (in many different ways). However, I've always struggled getting a good photo of them: I couldn't find a composition that works for me. I like what you've got. If this photo were mine, I probably would try to play with sharpening with masking (on unsharp filter), to highlight the individual ducks. and would consider pushing the contrast just a notch up. The funny thing is that I've seen your photo while working on a gallery where I also had a few duck shots. So, I thought I'd respond in a photo-jam-session type of way: http://42graphy.org/misc/2014-06-26-ducks/ (My apology for invading your thread with my photos.) Cheers, Igor Jack Davis Mon, 06 Oct 2014 08:18:12 -0700 wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
Jack, yep, those are regular soap bubbles. It was a family walk in the park during my short trip to Moscow this past summer, and we were blowing bubbles with the kids. The condition (probably because of the relatively high humidity and moderate temperature) was such that some of those bubbles lived for long time, and traveled rather far (some, - as far as crossing that small pond (which is probably some 80-140 yards/meters in size). But I had only one moment when they were blowing over these ducks, that's when I tried to catch the moment. Cheers, Igor PS. Please, send that bill directly to The Swiss bank, and ask them to pay from my account. Jack Davis Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:47:34 -0700 wrote: Your ducks are uniquely sharp, Igor. G Are those bubbles in the air in the single duck shot? Thanks for commenting. You'll be receiving a bill for using some of my space. ;-) Jack On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Jack, I like wild ducks (in many different ways). However, I've always struggled getting a good photo of them: I couldn't find a composition that works for me. I like what you've got. If this photo were mine, I probably would try to play with sharpening with masking (on unsharp filter), to highlight the individual ducks. and would consider pushing the contrast just a notch up. The funny thing is that I've seen your photo while working on a gallery where I also had a few duck shots. So, I thought I'd respond in a photo-jam-session type of way: http://42graphy.org/misc/2014-06-26-ducks/ (My apology for invading your thread with my photos.) Cheers, Igor Jack Davis Mon, 06 Oct 2014 08:18:12 -0700 wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: What have we done?!
Thank you, Tim, Ann, and Dave for your response. Special thanks to Ann for encouraging me to edit this photo. Actually, I had tried to darken that lit part, but it was requiring a more careful work to be done, so, I didn't go all the way with its processing. So, the photo is updated: http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsGraffiti/_IR09778.html How does it look now? (for those who have seen it before) I am also puzzled why this well-lit portion shows in my browser somewhat lighter than outside of the browser (Firefox). I know that I am using settings (the LR default) to export photos with RGB color profile. So, they should be seen correctly in Firefox. I just checked, and Opera and Chrome seem to be showing colors more consistently. Igor Ann Sanfedele Sat, 04 Oct 2014 20:57:09 -0700 Nice Catch, Igor! worth toning down the overexposed piece of the wall.. ann On 10/4/2014 22:07, Tim Bray wrote: Ouch. On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote: http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsGraffiti/_IR09778.html I wonder if the scene is as obvious to others as for me . All comments are welcome! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
I have my people ready to prepare a billing just as soon as I decide how many zeros should follow the numbers. Jack - Original Message - From: Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 11:46:37 AM Subject: Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks Jack, yep, those are regular soap bubbles. It was a family walk in the park during my short trip to Moscow this past summer, and we were blowing bubbles with the kids. The condition (probably because of the relatively high humidity and moderate temperature) was such that some of those bubbles lived for long time, and traveled rather far (some, - as far as crossing that small pond (which is probably some 80-140 yards/meters in size). But I had only one moment when they were blowing over these ducks, that's when I tried to catch the moment. Cheers, Igor PS. Please, send that bill directly to The Swiss bank, and ask them to pay from my account. Jack Davis Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:47:34 -0700 wrote: Your ducks are uniquely sharp, Igor. G Are those bubbles in the air in the single duck shot? Thanks for commenting. You'll be receiving a bill for using some of my space. ;-) Jack On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Jack, I like wild ducks (in many different ways). However, I've always struggled getting a good photo of them: I couldn't find a composition that works for me. I like what you've got. If this photo were mine, I probably would try to play with sharpening with masking (on unsharp filter), to highlight the individual ducks. and would consider pushing the contrast just a notch up. The funny thing is that I've seen your photo while working on a gallery where I also had a few duck shots. So, I thought I'd respond in a photo-jam-session type of way: http://42graphy.org/misc/2014-06-26-ducks/ (My apology for invading your thread with my photos.) Cheers, Igor Jack Davis Mon, 06 Oct 2014 08:18:12 -0700 wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape
P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to spend $10K on a 645Z, I wouldn't have any money left over for the $500 astro mount. I was surprised to find that there don't seem any lenses faster than f/2.8 available for the 645. Doing some quick web search, there don't even seem to be any manual focus lenses faster than f/2.8 available. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
American nightmares
Some good stuff here: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/oct/06/american-nightmares-the-photography-of-william-mortensen B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity - is up!!
Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: This is a fascinating gallery; the synchronicity theme was a great idea! Quite enjoyed this snapshot from around the globe. Agreed! One of the good things about the Synchronicity theme is that it forces us to go out a take a photo - rather than sifting through the archives to find something that fits (not a criticism - I do it all the time, myself) Stan suggested we run Synchronicity again in 2015 and I think that's not a bad idea. Full list of themes to follow shortly. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Twenty submissions this month - it seems the 'Synchronicity' theme was a popular one. Many and varied subjects, including a few by dedicated souls who took the theme to heart and pressed the shutter at the exact time of the equinox. Well done! We also have our first submission with the 645Z. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Next up for November is 'Motion'. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. * Nominal closing date: 31 October. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESOS Mondegreen and Palimpsest
Mondegreen: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/15439868146/ Palimpsest: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/15276089439 Walking down to photograph palimpsest, my camera slipped around, the lens hit my elbow and I heard something hit the ground. Now, I can't find the lens cap to my 16-50 in the ivy. I walked home to make sure it hadn't fallen off my lens in the camera bag, but no joy. Hopefully I'll have better luck going back to look for it again. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO my September faves
Ann Sanfedele wrote: I like all of them this time... even though the musicians are not my kinda thing usually, it is well done within that context. I started to comment yesterday but I got distracted looking for my bird book to look up photo 5... couldn't find it, but googled Godwit , that being my first guess and it sure looks right. lovely shot, Larry! Thanks a lot Ann. Yes, I was told that it was a marbled godwit. I've gone back and tagged my bird photos from those two days. Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American nightmares
Very cool, but I suspect Photoshopping. :) Thanks for that article, Bob. My kind of stuff. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Some good stuff here: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/oct/06/american-nightmares-the-photography-of-william-mortensen B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity - is up!!
Thank you, Ann. I'm pretty sure that the only two shots of those trees I've shown anywhere are these. I have taken hundreds of shots of that stand alone, but no matter what distance or angle they always disappointed me until the fog rolled in a couple of mornings in a row. A few days later -- with three days to the deadline -- I submitted the bw trees for the Visual Arts Mississauga exhibit. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: BRuck that black and white shot is gorgeous! I think you did show it to us before... or is there yet another shot at a distance, of those.. maybe in color? ann On 10/6/2014 10:03, Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks, Dave. That's not a bad idea, so I've noted the spot where I was most likely standing. Might have to take a print along with me when I go for the next season. :) I've been documenting this park in all seasons, though admittedly light on winter. A closeup of the stand of three trees to the left is the subject of my only ever juried exhibition hanging. I think it was in a prior PUG. https://ello.co/brucewalker/post/Of4BVR08GzIrgP5dcQr7tw On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:35 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce Walker's shot would make a nice 4 seasons photo shoot Dave On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Twenty submissions this month - it seems the 'Synchronicity' theme was a popular one. Many and varied subjects, including a few by dedicated souls who took the theme to heart and pressed the shutter at the exact time of the equinox. Well done! We also have our first submission with the 645Z. As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Next up for November is 'Motion'. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. * Nominal closing date: 31 October. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
I really like this shot, Jack. The only thing that I would change were it mine is to crop about half of the distance from the bottom to the spit (preserving the reflected duck heads). Were you tempted to caption this: Cluster Duck? ducks On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American nightmares
Bruce is being tongue-in-cheek with his Photoshopping comment, but there was lots of photo manipulation being done in film days (and before) both at the negative and in the printing (as with the work of one of my photographic hero's Jerry Uelsmann.) I wouldn't be surprised if http://120pearls.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/film-photo-manipulation-b-p-before-photoshop/ http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/28/before-photoshop-how-photographers-have-been-manipulating-images-for-years See also: Faking It: Manipulated Photography before Photoshop (Metropolitan Museum of Art) by Mia Fineman http://www.amazon.com/Faking-Manipulated-Photography-Photoshop-Metropolitan/dp/0300185014/ In fact, it appears (from Google Books) that Ms. Fineman's book includes some discussion involving the work of William Mortensen. A footnote in her bibliography makes reference to a June 1934 Camera Craft 41 article written by William Mortensen entitled Fallacies of 'Pure Photography'. That might be interesting to track down. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Very cool, but I suspect Photoshopping. :) Thanks for that article, Bob. My kind of stuff. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Some good stuff here: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/oct/06/american-nightmares-the-photography-of-william-mortensen B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Purple fringing explanation
Hi Guys, As much as I don't like Matt this video where he interviews Dr Hubert Nasse from Zeiss contains some interesting info (and displays Matt's ignorance of even basic optics) particularly at around 29 mins where there is an explanation of the reason that purple fringing occurs when using old fast optics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnEnRADDLo Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American nightmares
http://hyperallergic.com/58916/dreaming-in-argentina-when-juan-peron-was-president/ Quote from the above link: Before discussing Stern’s work, I want to say something about William Mortensen (1897–1965), who was both a photographer and the author of numerous manuals and books, including Madonnas and Monsters (1936). Born nearly a decade before Sommer and Laughlin, and working at the same time as Edward Steichen (1879 –1973) and Alfred Steiglitz (1864–1946), Mortensen championed photographic manipulation over straight photography, and paid for it dearly. Ansel Adams (1902–1984) dubbed Mortensen “the Anti-Christ,” which tells you how much he was reviled and feared by “straight” photographers. In the ensuing argument between Mortensen and the purists, straight photography won out. In his seminal study, The History of Photography from 1839 to the Present (New York: Museum of Modern Art, 1937), Beaumont Newhall left Mortensen out altogether. Now that Photoshop has become ubiquitous, perhaps Mortensen’s fortune will change. Also of interest (wow!) http://feralhouse.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/American-Grotesque-Excerpt.pdf On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce is being tongue-in-cheek with his Photoshopping comment, but there was lots of photo manipulation being done in film days (and before) both at the negative and in the printing (as with the work of one of my photographic hero's Jerry Uelsmann.) I wouldn't be surprised if http://120pearls.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/film-photo-manipulation-b-p-before-photoshop/ http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/28/before-photoshop-how-photographers-have-been-manipulating-images-for-years See also: Faking It: Manipulated Photography before Photoshop (Metropolitan Museum of Art) by Mia Fineman http://www.amazon.com/Faking-Manipulated-Photography-Photoshop-Metropolitan/dp/0300185014/ In fact, it appears (from Google Books) that Ms. Fineman's book includes some discussion involving the work of William Mortensen. A footnote in her bibliography makes reference to a June 1934 Camera Craft 41 article written by William Mortensen entitled Fallacies of 'Pure Photography'. That might be interesting to track down. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Very cool, but I suspect Photoshopping. :) Thanks for that article, Bob. My kind of stuff. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Some good stuff here: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/oct/06/american-nightmares-the-photography-of-william-mortensen B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American nightmares
A bit more on some of Mortensen's photoshopping techniques: Figure 1.16 In his essay Fallacies of ‘Pure Photography',” Mortensen challenged the hypothesis of Group f/64 by stating, Purists and puritans alike have been marked by a crusading devotion to self-defined fundamentals, by a tendency to sweeping condemnation of all who over-step the boundaries they have set up, and by grim disapproval of the more pleasing and graceful things in life.”8 Mortensen etched the original negative to remove unwanted detail. He then elongated the image during the enlargement process and made the projection through a texture screen. For details about his printmaking methods, including the Abrasion-Tone Process he used to make this image, see William Mortensen, Print Finishing, San Francisco: Camera Craft Publishing, 1938. © William Mortensen. Machiavelli, from the book Monsters and Madonnas, 1936. 10¼ × 8¼ inches. Abrasion-tone gelatin silver print. Courtesy of Robert Hirsch Collection. Source: http://www.photovideoedu.com/Learn/Print/12590.aspx On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://hyperallergic.com/58916/dreaming-in-argentina-when-juan-peron-was-president/ Quote from the above link: Before discussing Stern’s work, I want to say something about William Mortensen (1897–1965), who was both a photographer and the author of numerous manuals and books, including Madonnas and Monsters (1936). Born nearly a decade before Sommer and Laughlin, and working at the same time as Edward Steichen (1879 –1973) and Alfred Steiglitz (1864–1946), Mortensen championed photographic manipulation over straight photography, and paid for it dearly. Ansel Adams (1902–1984) dubbed Mortensen “the Anti-Christ,” which tells you how much he was reviled and feared by “straight” photographers. In the ensuing argument between Mortensen and the purists, straight photography won out. In his seminal study, The History of Photography from 1839 to the Present (New York: Museum of Modern Art, 1937), Beaumont Newhall left Mortensen out altogether. Now that Photoshop has become ubiquitous, perhaps Mortensen’s fortune will change. Also of interest (wow!) http://feralhouse.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/American-Grotesque-Excerpt.pdf On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce is being tongue-in-cheek with his Photoshopping comment, but there was lots of photo manipulation being done in film days (and before) both at the negative and in the printing (as with the work of one of my photographic hero's Jerry Uelsmann.) I wouldn't be surprised if http://120pearls.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/film-photo-manipulation-b-p-before-photoshop/ http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/28/before-photoshop-how-photographers-have-been-manipulating-images-for-years See also: Faking It: Manipulated Photography before Photoshop (Metropolitan Museum of Art) by Mia Fineman http://www.amazon.com/Faking-Manipulated-Photography-Photoshop-Metropolitan/dp/0300185014/ In fact, it appears (from Google Books) that Ms. Fineman's book includes some discussion involving the work of William Mortensen. A footnote in her bibliography makes reference to a June 1934 Camera Craft 41 article written by William Mortensen entitled Fallacies of 'Pure Photography'. That might be interesting to track down. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Very cool, but I suspect Photoshopping. :) Thanks for that article, Bob. My kind of stuff. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Some good stuff here: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/oct/06/american-nightmares-the-photography-of-william-mortensen B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Video on photos recreating a PanAm flight
Great video, thanks! On 3 October 2014 23:32, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: This is the link with all the tech info. Great read! http://www.mpkelley.com/pan-am-flies-again On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-best-flying-experience-ever-perfectly-recreated-in-1641714584 The video is actually pretty interesting from a photographic point of view. He discusses the lighting and what it took to get the effects he wanted. Link to just the video http://vimeo.com/92430997 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American nightmares
It also occurs to me that Bruce (and everybody else in this room) already knew about Mortensen's techniques and history and his Photoshopping comment was not tongue-in-cheek at all. Oh well, wouldn't be the first time the joke was on me. :) That forthcoming book American Grotesque has an entire glossary of Mortensen's Methods (only the introductory page of that section is in the preview PDF I linked to, above). According to the Guardian article linked from Bob's first link, the new book should be released sometime this month. It is only available for preorder on Amazon here in the U.S. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: A bit more on some of Mortensen's photoshopping techniques: Figure 1.16 In his essay Fallacies of ‘Pure Photography',” Mortensen challenged the hypothesis of Group f/64 by stating, Purists and puritans alike have been marked by a crusading devotion to self-defined fundamentals, by a tendency to sweeping condemnation of all who over-step the boundaries they have set up, and by grim disapproval of the more pleasing and graceful things in life.”8 Mortensen etched the original negative to remove unwanted detail. He then elongated the image during the enlargement process and made the projection through a texture screen. For details about his printmaking methods, including the Abrasion-Tone Process he used to make this image, see William Mortensen, Print Finishing, San Francisco: Camera Craft Publishing, 1938. © William Mortensen. Machiavelli, from the book Monsters and Madonnas, 1936. 10¼ × 8¼ inches. Abrasion-tone gelatin silver print. Courtesy of Robert Hirsch Collection. Source: http://www.photovideoedu.com/Learn/Print/12590.aspx On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://hyperallergic.com/58916/dreaming-in-argentina-when-juan-peron-was-president/ Quote from the above link: Before discussing Stern’s work, I want to say something about William Mortensen (1897–1965), who was both a photographer and the author of numerous manuals and books, including Madonnas and Monsters (1936). Born nearly a decade before Sommer and Laughlin, and working at the same time as Edward Steichen (1879 –1973) and Alfred Steiglitz (1864–1946), Mortensen championed photographic manipulation over straight photography, and paid for it dearly. Ansel Adams (1902–1984) dubbed Mortensen “the Anti-Christ,” which tells you how much he was reviled and feared by “straight” photographers. In the ensuing argument between Mortensen and the purists, straight photography won out. In his seminal study, The History of Photography from 1839 to the Present (New York: Museum of Modern Art, 1937), Beaumont Newhall left Mortensen out altogether. Now that Photoshop has become ubiquitous, perhaps Mortensen’s fortune will change. Also of interest (wow!) http://feralhouse.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/American-Grotesque-Excerpt.pdf On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce is being tongue-in-cheek with his Photoshopping comment, but there was lots of photo manipulation being done in film days (and before) both at the negative and in the printing (as with the work of one of my photographic hero's Jerry Uelsmann.) I wouldn't be surprised if http://120pearls.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/film-photo-manipulation-b-p-before-photoshop/ http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/28/before-photoshop-how-photographers-have-been-manipulating-images-for-years See also: Faking It: Manipulated Photography before Photoshop (Metropolitan Museum of Art) by Mia Fineman http://www.amazon.com/Faking-Manipulated-Photography-Photoshop-Metropolitan/dp/0300185014/ In fact, it appears (from Google Books) that Ms. Fineman's book includes some discussion involving the work of William Mortensen. A footnote in her bibliography makes reference to a June 1934 Camera Craft 41 article written by William Mortensen entitled Fallacies of 'Pure Photography'. That might be interesting to track down. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Very cool, but I suspect Photoshopping. :) Thanks for that article, Bob. My kind of stuff. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Some good stuff here: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/oct/06/american-nightmares-the-photography-of-william-mortensen B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz --
Re: OT Purple fringing explanation
The first time I tried watching that video (a week or so ago) it literally put me to sleep, in the middle. I'll have to give it another try in the morning when I am full of caffeine. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, As much as I don't like Matt this video where he interviews Dr Hubert Nasse from Zeiss contains some interesting info (and displays Matt's ignorance of even basic optics) particularly at around 29 mins where there is an explanation of the reason that purple fringing occurs when using old fast optics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnEnRADDLo Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gloucester cathedral interior pano
Nice, I bet it would look fine on a cylindrical monitor ;) On 6 October 2014 03:32, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Freaky and distorted. But I like it :) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gloucester1.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Purple fringing explanation
Well, I zoomed to the 29 minute mark. I don't think his explanation really applies in the case of P.J.s photo because I don't think the fringing is in front of the plane of focus. It is just around the transition area of white (to darker). I'm sure that if Zeiss would send P.J. an Otus 85mm for use on his K-5II he would be happy to try to see if it makes the problem go away, however. Sadly, it is only currently preorderable (is that a word?) for Nikon/Canon. It is still possible that it is an artifact of post-processing. A question for P.J. I'm assuming, P.J. that you see it in the RAW files also, before processing or compression? I've seen some derogatory comments on the web about purple fringing being an issue commonly known (as in, a given) regarding Sony sensors. No idea if that is mularkey or not - or was possibly true at some times and not others? On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: The first time I tried watching that video (a week or so ago) it literally put me to sleep, in the middle. I'll have to give it another try in the morning when I am full of caffeine. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, As much as I don't like Matt this video where he interviews Dr Hubert Nasse from Zeiss contains some interesting info (and displays Matt's ignorance of even basic optics) particularly at around 29 mins where there is an explanation of the reason that purple fringing occurs when using old fast optics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnEnRADDLo Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Purple fringing explanation
PJ has a purple fringing problem? How unfortunate :( On 7 October 2014 11:19, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I zoomed to the 29 minute mark. I don't think his explanation really applies in the case of P.J.s photo because I don't think the fringing is in front of the plane of focus. It is just around the transition area of white (to darker). I'm sure that if Zeiss would send P.J. an Otus 85mm for use on his K-5II he would be happy to try to see if it makes the problem go away, however. Sadly, it is only currently preorderable (is that a word?) for Nikon/Canon. It is still possible that it is an artifact of post-processing. A question for P.J. I'm assuming, P.J. that you see it in the RAW files also, before processing or compression? I've seen some derogatory comments on the web about purple fringing being an issue commonly known (as in, a given) regarding Sony sensors. No idea if that is mularkey or not - or was possibly true at some times and not others? On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: The first time I tried watching that video (a week or so ago) it literally put me to sleep, in the middle. I'll have to give it another try in the morning when I am full of caffeine. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, As much as I don't like Matt this video where he interviews Dr Hubert Nasse from Zeiss contains some interesting info (and displays Matt's ignorance of even basic optics) particularly at around 29 mins where there is an explanation of the reason that purple fringing occurs when using old fast optics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnEnRADDLo Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
October PUG - Synchronicity shoot
Hi Team, I did shoot on the day but not with Pentax so I didn't feel that I should contribute any shots. I've been a bit busy managing a new (surprise) addition to the family: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/DSC03102.JPG Shot with my always handy Sony RX100M2 Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Final PUG Themes for 2015
G'day all Here the list for 2015, based mainly on suggestions received. January: Abstract February: On the Beach March: Curved April: Panorama May: Celebrating Autumn/Spring June: The Lake July: Open Gallery August: Simplicity September: Synchronicity - World Photography Day October: Wind November: On Two Wheels December: Tools Regarding 'Synchronicity', Godfrey mentioned 'World Photography Day' in a post a month or two ago and I thought that event might be a useful reference point for the Synchronicity theme, even if a little less restrictive than using the equinox as the reference point (http://www.worldphotoday.org/). Your thoughts? -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity shoot
On 7/10/2014 11:26, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, I did shoot on the day but not with Pentax so I didn't feel that I should contribute any shots. I've been a bit busy managing a new (surprise) addition to the family: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/DSC03102.JPG Shot with my always handy Sony RX100M2 Cheers, Congratulations! Pete in Melbourne -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity shoot
Future model is born? :) Congratulations, Rob! On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, I did shoot on the day but not with Pentax so I didn't feel that I should contribute any shots. I've been a bit busy managing a new (surprise) addition to the family: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/DSC03102.JPG Shot with my always handy Sony RX100M2 Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape
On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to spend $10K on a 645Z, I wouldn't have any money left over for the $500 astro mount. I was surprised to find that there don't seem any lenses faster than f/2.8 available for the 645. Doing some quick web search, there don't even seem to be any manual focus lenses faster than f/2.8 available. There are adapters that support the use of Hassleblad etc. on the 645. Maybe you can find the faster glass you need by going that route? stan -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American nightmares
I know about many darkroom processing techniques and how much was or was not done back in the day, but, although I could see clearly that he'd manipulated those images, I wasn't specifically aware of Mortensen's work and his attempts to gain general acceptance of his heavy post processing. I find it quite fascinating and I thank you, Darren, for digging those references up. Or maybe I shouldn't thank you because now I'm going to be digging further tomorrow. ;-) And I'll have to get the book now too. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: It also occurs to me that Bruce (and everybody else in this room) already knew about Mortensen's techniques and history and his Photoshopping comment was not tongue-in-cheek at all. Oh well, wouldn't be the first time the joke was on me. :) That forthcoming book American Grotesque has an entire glossary of Mortensen's Methods (only the introductory page of that section is in the preview PDF I linked to, above). According to the Guardian article linked from Bob's first link, the new book should be released sometime this month. It is only available for preorder on Amazon here in the U.S. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: A bit more on some of Mortensen's photoshopping techniques: Figure 1.16 In his essay Fallacies of ‘Pure Photography',” Mortensen challenged the hypothesis of Group f/64 by stating, Purists and puritans alike have been marked by a crusading devotion to self-defined fundamentals, by a tendency to sweeping condemnation of all who over-step the boundaries they have set up, and by grim disapproval of the more pleasing and graceful things in life.”8 Mortensen etched the original negative to remove unwanted detail. He then elongated the image during the enlargement process and made the projection through a texture screen. For details about his printmaking methods, including the Abrasion-Tone Process he used to make this image, see William Mortensen, Print Finishing, San Francisco: Camera Craft Publishing, 1938. © William Mortensen. Machiavelli, from the book Monsters and Madonnas, 1936. 10¼ × 8¼ inches. Abrasion-tone gelatin silver print. Courtesy of Robert Hirsch Collection. Source: http://www.photovideoedu.com/Learn/Print/12590.aspx On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://hyperallergic.com/58916/dreaming-in-argentina-when-juan-peron-was-president/ Quote from the above link: Before discussing Stern’s work, I want to say something about William Mortensen (1897–1965), who was both a photographer and the author of numerous manuals and books, including Madonnas and Monsters (1936). Born nearly a decade before Sommer and Laughlin, and working at the same time as Edward Steichen (1879 –1973) and Alfred Steiglitz (1864–1946), Mortensen championed photographic manipulation over straight photography, and paid for it dearly. Ansel Adams (1902–1984) dubbed Mortensen “the Anti-Christ,” which tells you how much he was reviled and feared by “straight” photographers. In the ensuing argument between Mortensen and the purists, straight photography won out. In his seminal study, The History of Photography from 1839 to the Present (New York: Museum of Modern Art, 1937), Beaumont Newhall left Mortensen out altogether. Now that Photoshop has become ubiquitous, perhaps Mortensen’s fortune will change. Also of interest (wow!) http://feralhouse.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/American-Grotesque-Excerpt.pdf On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce is being tongue-in-cheek with his Photoshopping comment, but there was lots of photo manipulation being done in film days (and before) both at the negative and in the printing (as with the work of one of my photographic hero's Jerry Uelsmann.) I wouldn't be surprised if http://120pearls.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/film-photo-manipulation-b-p-before-photoshop/ http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/28/before-photoshop-how-photographers-have-been-manipulating-images-for-years See also: Faking It: Manipulated Photography before Photoshop (Metropolitan Museum of Art) by Mia Fineman http://www.amazon.com/Faking-Manipulated-Photography-Photoshop-Metropolitan/dp/0300185014/ In fact, it appears (from Google Books) that Ms. Fineman's book includes some discussion involving the work of William Mortensen. A footnote in her bibliography makes reference to a June 1934 Camera Craft 41 article written by William Mortensen entitled Fallacies of 'Pure Photography'. That might be interesting to track down. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Very cool, but I suspect Photoshopping. :) Thanks for that article, Bob. My kind of stuff. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Some good stuff here:
Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to spend $10K on a 645Z, I wouldn't have any money left over for the $500 astro mount. I was surprised to find that there don't seem any lenses faster than f/2.8 available for the 645. Doing some quick web search, there don't even seem to be any manual focus lenses faster than f/2.8 available. There are adapters that support the use of Hassleblad etc. on the 645. Maybe you can find the faster glass you need by going that route? I always assumed that there isn't faster glass because there doesn't need to be. The DoF on medium format is already razor thin compared to 35mm and APS-C and perhaps a 1.4 on a 645z would create a serious focusing problem? Or ridiculously OOF portraits? In other words, we have what's practical to sell, as with other formats. Or am I way off base? -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Purple fringing explanation
Ah, I assumed you were referring to our earlier thread. Apologies. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: PJ has a purple fringing problem? How unfortunate :( On 7 October 2014 11:19, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I zoomed to the 29 minute mark. I don't think his explanation really applies in the case of P.J.s photo because I don't think the fringing is in front of the plane of focus. It is just around the transition area of white (to darker). I'm sure that if Zeiss would send P.J. an Otus 85mm for use on his K-5II he would be happy to try to see if it makes the problem go away, however. Sadly, it is only currently preorderable (is that a word?) for Nikon/Canon. It is still possible that it is an artifact of post-processing. A question for P.J. I'm assuming, P.J. that you see it in the RAW files also, before processing or compression? I've seen some derogatory comments on the web about purple fringing being an issue commonly known (as in, a given) regarding Sony sensors. No idea if that is mularkey or not - or was possibly true at some times and not others? On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: The first time I tried watching that video (a week or so ago) it literally put me to sleep, in the middle. I'll have to give it another try in the morning when I am full of caffeine. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, As much as I don't like Matt this video where he interviews Dr Hubert Nasse from Zeiss contains some interesting info (and displays Matt's ignorance of even basic optics) particularly at around 29 mins where there is an explanation of the reason that purple fringing occurs when using old fast optics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnEnRADDLo Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American nightmares
I find it fascinating that Ansel Adams and Weston (and the f/64 group) continued attacking Mortensen even after he was dead. (!) Sort of modifies my view of them. They were purists in most senses of the word, apparently. Good for them, but I don't think that gives them the right to dictateset themselves up as Judge, Jury, Executioner of all other photographer's work and technique. Sounds to me like what Mortensen did was rather groundbreaking in its own right. As Don Henley said: Rebels been rebels since I don't know when. :) On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I know about many darkroom processing techniques and how much was or was not done back in the day, but, although I could see clearly that he'd manipulated those images, I wasn't specifically aware of Mortensen's work and his attempts to gain general acceptance of his heavy post processing. I find it quite fascinating and I thank you, Darren, for digging those references up. Or maybe I shouldn't thank you because now I'm going to be digging further tomorrow. ;-) And I'll have to get the book now too. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: It also occurs to me that Bruce (and everybody else in this room) already knew about Mortensen's techniques and history and his Photoshopping comment was not tongue-in-cheek at all. Oh well, wouldn't be the first time the joke was on me. :) That forthcoming book American Grotesque has an entire glossary of Mortensen's Methods (only the introductory page of that section is in the preview PDF I linked to, above). According to the Guardian article linked from Bob's first link, the new book should be released sometime this month. It is only available for preorder on Amazon here in the U.S. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: A bit more on some of Mortensen's photoshopping techniques: Figure 1.16 In his essay Fallacies of ‘Pure Photography',” Mortensen challenged the hypothesis of Group f/64 by stating, Purists and puritans alike have been marked by a crusading devotion to self-defined fundamentals, by a tendency to sweeping condemnation of all who over-step the boundaries they have set up, and by grim disapproval of the more pleasing and graceful things in life.”8 Mortensen etched the original negative to remove unwanted detail. He then elongated the image during the enlargement process and made the projection through a texture screen. For details about his printmaking methods, including the Abrasion-Tone Process he used to make this image, see William Mortensen, Print Finishing, San Francisco: Camera Craft Publishing, 1938. © William Mortensen. Machiavelli, from the book Monsters and Madonnas, 1936. 10¼ × 8¼ inches. Abrasion-tone gelatin silver print. Courtesy of Robert Hirsch Collection. Source: http://www.photovideoedu.com/Learn/Print/12590.aspx On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://hyperallergic.com/58916/dreaming-in-argentina-when-juan-peron-was-president/ Quote from the above link: Before discussing Stern’s work, I want to say something about William Mortensen (1897–1965), who was both a photographer and the author of numerous manuals and books, including Madonnas and Monsters (1936). Born nearly a decade before Sommer and Laughlin, and working at the same time as Edward Steichen (1879 –1973) and Alfred Steiglitz (1864–1946), Mortensen championed photographic manipulation over straight photography, and paid for it dearly. Ansel Adams (1902–1984) dubbed Mortensen “the Anti-Christ,” which tells you how much he was reviled and feared by “straight” photographers. In the ensuing argument between Mortensen and the purists, straight photography won out. In his seminal study, The History of Photography from 1839 to the Present (New York: Museum of Modern Art, 1937), Beaumont Newhall left Mortensen out altogether. Now that Photoshop has become ubiquitous, perhaps Mortensen’s fortune will change. Also of interest (wow!) http://feralhouse.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/American-Grotesque-Excerpt.pdf On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce is being tongue-in-cheek with his Photoshopping comment, but there was lots of photo manipulation being done in film days (and before) both at the negative and in the printing (as with the work of one of my photographic hero's Jerry Uelsmann.) I wouldn't be surprised if http://120pearls.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/film-photo-manipulation-b-p-before-photoshop/ http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/28/before-photoshop-how-photographers-have-been-manipulating-images-for-years See also: Faking It: Manipulated Photography before Photoshop (Metropolitan Museum of Art) by Mia Fineman http://www.amazon.com/Faking-Manipulated-Photography-Photoshop-Metropolitan/dp/0300185014/ In fact, it appears (from Google Books)
Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape
Using the term astrophotography is sort of like using the term Dr. or PhD. It implies something that can be rather broad without revealing the particulars. Frankly, I think that calling Milky Way shots, (particularly with landscape sillouettes or light painting )astrophotography is a stretch. But to each, their own. In any event fast lenses are really only important if you must limit your shutter speed, as we often need to do in terrestial photography. In astrophotography, with a motorized, polar-aligned platform, your shutter speed is limited only by your motorized/guided accuracy or periodic error built into the gears. It makes little difference if you are shooting at f2.8 or f/10 (as with using many of the popular Schmidt-Cassegrain telescopes for lenses). Most good apochromats for astrophotography are around f/5.5 or f/6. Most photographic lenses need to be stopped down 1 or two stops for best performance, particularly off-axis. So the wide open speed of the lens only determines at what focal ratio that one or two stops down is going to BE. A *scope* made for imaging has no such aperture iris and is made to shoot wide open because that is your only choice. Stacking images in post-processing allows you to take your longest guided/polar-aligned images and reduce noise, effectively pulling out more detail. A lens that performs well when stopped down to f5.6 is plenty good for astrophotography, though a lens that is fine at wider apertures might be even better. The DA* 200mm f2.8 is, by all accounts, one of the Good Ones, for deep space objects like nebula, galaxies star clusters. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to spend $10K on a 645Z, I wouldn't have any money left over for the $500 astro mount. I was surprised to find that there don't seem any lenses faster than f/2.8 available for the 645. Doing some quick web search, there don't even seem to be any manual focus lenses faster than f/2.8 available. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape
Not off-base at all Bruce. Scale it up and look at the fastest lenses for 4x5 or 5x7 film cameras. Same reasoning. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to spend $10K on a 645Z, I wouldn't have any money left over for the $500 astro mount. I was surprised to find that there don't seem any lenses faster than f/2.8 available for the 645. Doing some quick web search, there don't even seem to be any manual focus lenses faster than f/2.8 available. There are adapters that support the use of Hassleblad etc. on the 645. Maybe you can find the faster glass you need by going that route? I always assumed that there isn't faster glass because there doesn't need to be. The DoF on medium format is already razor thin compared to 35mm and APS-C and perhaps a 1.4 on a 645z would create a serious focusing problem? Or ridiculously OOF portraits? In other words, we have what's practical to sell, as with other formats. Or am I way off base? -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity shoot
Very cute, Rob and big congrats on the new lovely addition. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, I did shoot on the day but not with Pentax so I didn't feel that I should contribute any shots. I've been a bit busy managing a new (surprise) addition to the family: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/DSC03102.JPG Shot with my always handy Sony RX100M2 Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gloucester cathedral interior pano
Oops, I like that a lot. Love the light, colors, texture and the freaky shape! Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 5, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Freaky and distorted. But I like it :) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gloucester1.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
I like the subject, Jack, but I think the composition is a bit cluttered. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity - is up!!
I agree about Rick's photo as well. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 4, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Cotty - absolutely agree about Rick's wonderful shot and also favor John's (Herzog?? in North Carolina? - hmmm) Glad you liked mine, too And Toralf may think his shot is nothing special, but I could look at that all day. so much good stuff all around ann On 10/4/2014 18:33, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 5/10/14, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: As usual, you'll find the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ Very strong gallery as always. One shot that stands out for me and I have to say this is the strongest work I've seen from him, is 'Waiting Evangelist' by Rick Womer. I like John Sessoms' shot a lot, as I do Annsan's. But they are all really worthy photographs and enjoyed browsing, as I always do. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: a hodge podge :-)
Thanks Tim, Mark, and Dave. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 4, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: There's a great picture lurking inside IMG3831; so much detail. Might benefit from heavy-handed over-processing. On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: I was able to exercise my shutter finger yesterday while running an errand downtown. I included the straight photo (#2) of the steeple for Ann, anticipating she may want to see the original :-). I’d really like to photograph the water tanks around Chicago. Just a little practice shown here. http://www.caguila.com/train/index.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- - Tim Bray (If you’d like to send me a private message, see https://keybase.io/timbray) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gloucester cathedral interior pano
Freaky and distorted. But I LOVE it! On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Oops, I like that a lot. Love the light, colors, texture and the freaky shape! Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 5, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Freaky and distorted. But I like it :) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gloucester1.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
I think that image is just ducky! On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: I like the subject, Jack, but I think the composition is a bit cluttered. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape
On 10/6/2014 9:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to spend $10K on a 645Z, I wouldn't have any money left over for the $500 astro mount. I was surprised to find that there don't seem any lenses faster than f/2.8 available for the 645. Doing some quick web search, there don't even seem to be any manual focus lenses faster than f/2.8 available. There are adapters that support the use of Hassleblad etc. on the 645. Maybe you can find the faster glass you need by going that route? I always assumed that there isn't faster glass because there doesn't need to be. The DoF on medium format is already razor thin compared to 35mm and APS-C and perhaps a 1.4 on a 645z would create a serious focusing problem? Or ridiculously OOF portraits? In other words, we have what's practical to sell, as with other formats. Or am I way off base? Not just DOF, but an f2.0 135mm would be quite large and heavy if built to cover the 645 format, yet it would be the equivalent of a Portrait lens say 85mm on 35mm, (75mm actually). Fast glass makes in any focal length on 645 need a tripod, whereas Pentax build a system to be equally good as a hand held field camera, as well as at home on a tripod in a studio. Traditionally medium format lenses have been fairly slow. There are exceptions, but they are exceptions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity shoot
Surprise? Don't you usually get at least several months warning? On 10/6/2014 8:26 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, I did shoot on the day but not with Pentax so I didn't feel that I should contribute any shots. I've been a bit busy managing a new (surprise) addition to the family: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/DSC03102.JPG Shot with my always handy Sony RX100M2 Cheers, -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Purple fringing explanation
The fringing is in the sample Jpeg imbedded in the file, and in the images rendered by both Adobe Bridge and PDCU, so if it was in the processing it's also in the processing in the cameras Jpeg engine. I read a reason for it being purple having to do with the fact that the color demosaicing algorithm biasing towards the red and blue to make up for there being two green for every red and blue pair of photo sites, (otherwise it will bias green), it makes a certain amount of sense where there's a sharp edge, and the highlights are at the cusp of being over exposed. I've seen enough red/blue fringing in digital files, I've got at least one lens where the fringing is several pixels in width. This doesn't seem to be that at all. On 10/6/2014 8:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, I zoomed to the 29 minute mark. I don't think his explanation really applies in the case of P.J.s photo because I don't think the fringing is in front of the plane of focus. It is just around the transition area of white (to darker). I'm sure that if Zeiss would send P.J. an Otus 85mm for use on his K-5II he would be happy to try to see if it makes the problem go away, however. Sadly, it is only currently preorderable (is that a word?) for Nikon/Canon. It is still possible that it is an artifact of post-processing. A question for P.J. I'm assuming, P.J. that you see it in the RAW files also, before processing or compression? I've seen some derogatory comments on the web about purple fringing being an issue commonly known (as in, a given) regarding Sony sensors. No idea if that is mularkey or not - or was possibly true at some times and not others? On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: The first time I tried watching that video (a week or so ago) it literally put me to sleep, in the middle. I'll have to give it another try in the morning when I am full of caffeine. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, As much as I don't like Matt this video where he interviews Dr Hubert Nasse from Zeiss contains some interesting info (and displays Matt's ignorance of even basic optics) particularly at around 29 mins where there is an explanation of the reason that purple fringing occurs when using old fast optics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnEnRADDLo Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Purple fringing explanation
It's nothing that a couple of aspirin and a shot of whiskey won't cure... Really not a problem at all... On 10/6/2014 8:23 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: PJ has a purple fringing problem? How unfortunate :( On 7 October 2014 11:19, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I zoomed to the 29 minute mark. I don't think his explanation really applies in the case of P.J.s photo because I don't think the fringing is in front of the plane of focus. It is just around the transition area of white (to darker). I'm sure that if Zeiss would send P.J. an Otus 85mm for use on his K-5II he would be happy to try to see if it makes the problem go away, however. Sadly, it is only currently preorderable (is that a word?) for Nikon/Canon. It is still possible that it is an artifact of post-processing. A question for P.J. I'm assuming, P.J. that you see it in the RAW files also, before processing or compression? I've seen some derogatory comments on the web about purple fringing being an issue commonly known (as in, a given) regarding Sony sensors. No idea if that is mularkey or not - or was possibly true at some times and not others? On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: The first time I tried watching that video (a week or so ago) it literally put me to sleep, in the middle. I'll have to give it another try in the morning when I am full of caffeine. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, As much as I don't like Matt this video where he interviews Dr Hubert Nasse from Zeiss contains some interesting info (and displays Matt's ignorance of even basic optics) particularly at around 29 mins where there is an explanation of the reason that purple fringing occurs when using old fast optics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnEnRADDLo Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
Thanks for comments including your crop suggestion. Perhaps oddly, I like the intervening tules. Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 4:34:35 PM Subject: Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks I really like this shot, Jack. The only thing that I would change were it mine is to crop about half of the distance from the bottom to the spit (preserving the reflected duck heads). Were you tempted to caption this: Cluster Duck? ducks On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
Yeah, I see why that would trouble some. Thanks for commenting, Christine. Jack - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 7:25:33 PM Subject: Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks I like the subject, Jack, but I think the composition is a bit cluttered. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks
- Original Message - From: Davis, Jack jdavi...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 8:12:20 PM Subject: Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks Glad you do, Darren. Thanks! Jack - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 7:31:32 PM Subject: Re: Peso: Dawn Ducks I think that image is just ducky! On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: I like the subject, Jack, but I think the composition is a bit cluttered. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: I checked out a local wildlife preserve and found the flooding well under way. No geese yet, but it's receiving a covering of migrating ducks. Liked the lighting and the setting in general, so am posting. Comments invited, of course. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=829 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Fly General Store
Me and a friend had a nice outing down the Natchez Trace to Highway 7 on our way to locate Fly General Store in Fly TN. If you ever find yourself in Middle TN visit with mister Wilson Fly and his general store. His family has been running the general store for several generations. There is also an interesting antique store next to the store but be careful as the floors lean every which way. Oh and while you are at the general store you should purchase one of Mr. Fly's handmade reuse wood bird houses. http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p892528771/ea885e5f -- Jeffery Johnson Photo Captures by Jeffery http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com http://www.Facebook.com/photocapturesbyjeffery https://twitter.com/PhotoCaptures Bringing joy and happiness to lonely and depressed walls across the nation with wonderful eclectic photography and Pet photo sessions for an array of pets and their families. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: October PUG - Synchronicity shoot
cute surprise :-) ann On 10/6/2014 20:26, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, I did shoot on the day but not with Pentax so I didn't feel that I should contribute any shots. I've been a bit busy managing a new (surprise) addition to the family: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/DSC03102.JPG Shot with my always handy Sony RX100M2 Cheers, -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape
On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:38 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/6/2014 9:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to spend $10K on a 645Z, I wouldn't have any money left over for the $500 astro mount. I was surprised to find that there don't seem any lenses faster than f/2.8 available for the 645. Doing some quick web search, there don't even seem to be any manual focus lenses faster than f/2.8 available. There are adapters that support the use of Hassleblad etc. on the 645. Maybe you can find the faster glass you need by going that route? I always assumed that there isn't faster glass because there doesn't need to be. The DoF on medium format is already razor thin compared to 35mm and APS-C and perhaps a 1.4 on a 645z would create a serious focusing problem? Or ridiculously OOF portraits? In other words, we have what's practical to sell, as with other formats. Or am I way off base? Not just DOF, but an f2.0 135mm would be quite large and heavy if built to cover the 645 format, yet it would be the equivalent of a Portrait lens say 85mm on 35mm, (75mm actually). Fast glass makes in any focal length on 645 need a tripod, whereas Pentax build a system to be equally good as a hand held field camera, as well as at home on a tripod in a studio. Traditionally medium format lenses have been fairly slow. There are exceptions, but they are exceptions. Bruce, not to disagree with your point at all, but FYI a 645 135mm lens on the 645z would have an effective field of view equivalent to a 110mm lens on a 35mm film camera. The “crop factor” is 0.8. So taking (many of) the actual lenses available, the 645z has: X 645 lens = equivalent to Ymm focal length on 35mm 25 = 20mm 35 = 28mm 45 = 35mm 55 = 44mm 75 = 60mm 90 = 72mm 120 = 96mm 150 = 120mm 200 = 160mm I think you were basing your comparison on actual 6x4.5 film vs. 35mm film. One other point about lens speed: the importance of wide apertures has seriously diminished (except for very specialized niche applications that call for shallow DOF) - the ability to shoot clean shots at ISO6400 or 12800 really makes “fast” lenses a relic of the good old days when we had a choice of either Kodachrome as God intended it to be at ISO 25 or of that new Kodachrome 64 that was a serious compromise in quality. Though I must admit that I prefer a fast lens to a slower one for the simple reason that I have a brighter image to focus and compose. Stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape
Sorry Bruce, P.J. - I misattributed your post, P.J., to Bruce. stan On Oct 7, 2014, at 12:32 AM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:38 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/6/2014 9:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to spend $10K on a 645Z, I wouldn't have any money left over for the $500 astro mount. I was surprised to find that there don't seem any lenses faster than f/2.8 available for the 645. Doing some quick web search, there don't even seem to be any manual focus lenses faster than f/2.8 available. There are adapters that support the use of Hassleblad etc. on the 645. Maybe you can find the faster glass you need by going that route? I always assumed that there isn't faster glass because there doesn't need to be. The DoF on medium format is already razor thin compared to 35mm and APS-C and perhaps a 1.4 on a 645z would create a serious focusing problem? Or ridiculously OOF portraits? In other words, we have what's practical to sell, as with other formats. Or am I way off base? Not just DOF, but an f2.0 135mm would be quite large and heavy if built to cover the 645 format, yet it would be the equivalent of a Portrait lens say 85mm on 35mm, (75mm actually). Fast glass makes in any focal length on 645 need a tripod, whereas Pentax build a system to be equally good as a hand held field camera, as well as at home on a tripod in a studio. Traditionally medium format lenses have been fairly slow. There are exceptions, but they are exceptions. Bruce, not to disagree with your point at all, but FYI a 645 135mm lens on the 645z would have an effective field of view equivalent to a 110mm lens on a 35mm film camera. The “crop factor” is 0.8. So taking (many of) the actual lenses available, the 645z has: X 645 lens = equivalent to Ymm focal length on 35mm 25 = 20mm 35 = 28mm 45 = 35mm 55 = 44mm 75 = 60mm 90 = 72mm 120 = 96mm 150 = 120mm 200 = 160mm I think you were basing your comparison on actual 6x4.5 film vs. 35mm film. One other point about lens speed: the importance of wide apertures has seriously diminished (except for very specialized niche applications that call for shallow DOF) - the ability to shoot clean shots at ISO6400 or 12800 really makes “fast” lenses a relic of the good old days when we had a choice of either Kodachrome as God intended it to be at ISO 25 or of that new Kodachrome 64 that was a serious compromise in quality. Though I must admit that I prefer a fast lens to a slower one for the simple reason that I have a brighter image to focus and compose. Stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Questions about LR database manipulations
I know that several people on PDML have extensive expertise with LR. So, I would like to ask a few questions about the information I cannot find. In the context of LR: 1. Is there any difference of how the editing information (and not just the end result, but also the editing steps) and metadata are handled between the following two scenrios of moving photo files: a) within LR b) within the OS, and then reattaching in LR via locate photos? I've seen recommendations for both scenarios, but more for (b), especially in case of large quantities of files/folder. Those people argue that the moving using OS means is more efficient, while moving within LR is prone to problems/interruptions (e.g. if LR encounters a problem alone the way). I haven't seen any authoritative information if there is any difference between the two with respect to handling editing and metadata information, especially if the information is not written back into the file (or .xmp), but kept within the LR database. I assume there shouldn't be any problem, but I am not 100% sure. I am also curious if there is a difference in this behavior between LR-3 and LR-5. Lightroom knows about the original image file locations by storing their pathname in the catalog database (the .LRCAT file). With earlier versions of Lightroom (v 2 and 3), I found that moving very large numbers of files (thousands) from one volume to another at one time from within the LR app was prone to having problems and the OS was more adept at it. So what I used to do is organize all the files using the Folders panel so that they were all in a single rooted file hierarchy on a per-volume basis. That is, you could find a single root directory that was the ultimate parent of all the imported files. Then I'd quit Lightroom and use the operating system (or a file synchronization utility like ChronoSync) to move all the files from one volume to another, preserving the directory tree. Re-open Lightroom when that finishes, control-click on the root folder and use the command Find Missing Folder (or some such), navigate to the new location, and click OK. Lightroom then updates all the file entries for images it knows about to use the files on the new volume. All of the editing metadata is stored on a per-file basis in the catalog; it's unnecessary to write it to disk independently as .xmp files (or embed it into .dng files) unless you want to share it to other programs in the Adobe suite. There is no difference whatever in the end result of moving files from entirely within the app to working as I describe above as long as you organize the files into a single-rooted directory tree. I haven't moved volumes of files like that en masse from place to place in quite a long time now. I notice that LR5.6 is much more efficient at it and I haven't seen a single issue doing it yet. So perhaps moving files the external way is a thing of the past and unwarranted nowadays. 2. If I am merging catalogs and importing one into another, I understand that I can check-mark the option to preserve duplicates as virtual copies. My question is what happens in that case if I have Collections with the same names? How is the clash resolved by LR? Again, if there is a difference between LR3 and LR5, I'd like to know. I don't have LR3 installed any longer to do a test with, but if you have collections that are named identically in both the host catalog (the one you are importing into) and the source catalog (the one you are importing from), LR5 puts all the image files in identically named catalogs into the one catalog of the same name in the host catalog. Hope that helps! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
