On Jun 24, 2005, at 10:28 PM, Tom Reese wrote:
I really would like to shoot some landscapes with one. I bet that
thing gives some incredible full frame perspective.
It's surprisingly difficult to use a 15mm lens well: not many scenes
really call for it. But when you need to get
On 6/24/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.lookingglassphoto.com/index.html
Are you sure that's Berkeley and not Toronto? Looks like Frank shot the
portrait on the home page. :-P
1) It's colour,
2) Those green things in the background are fairly sharp, and,
3) That's
On 6/23/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 23/6/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed:
And we have Frank, Cotty and Bill Robb as well.
Now hang on a minute mate. It's bad enough being lumped into the same
frying pan as Frank. But Rottweiler Robb as well??
Geez, I'm away from the
On 25/6/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
-frank (who has a long memory, Cotty. GFM is only about 11 months
away... g
Flashguns at ten paces sir!
Cheers,
Cotty
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William Robb wrote:
Reese's Pieces at the next GFM.
Don't start something you can't finish Robb. I'll send you back to
Regina with all your parts rearranged.
BTW, curse you and that 15/3.5 lens. You got my curiosity up and I've
been wanting one since GFM. Those babies are in high demand.
Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/22/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the camera shops I visit is selling Film is Not Dead T-shirts ;-))
I think I grabbed a snap of the sample shirt hung on the wall just below
the Moose head LOL
Shel
Would that be these guys?
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, curse you and that 15/3.5 lens. You got my curiosity up and I've
been wanting one since GFM. Those babies are in high demand. Did you see
this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4688item=7522707091rd=1ssPageName=WDVW
I should
William Robb wrote:
I thought there was something odd about (Doug the List Guy) Brewer
Yeah and there's something cold about ice cream.
Tom Reese
Mark (the Enabler) Roberts wrote:
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really would like to shoot some landscapes with one. I bet that thing
gives some incredible full frame perspective.
http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d202303.htm
Nice work. Great use of that wide AOV. The foreground elements and
resulting perspective make these special.
Paul
On Jun 24, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, curse you and that 15/3.5 lens. You got my curiosity up and I've
been wanting one since
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Jun 24, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I really would like to shoot some landscapes with one. I bet that thing
gives some incredible full frame perspective.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Reese
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Mark (the Enabler) Roberts wrote:
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really would like to shoot some landscapes with one. I bet that thing
gives some incredible full frame perspective.
http
- Original Message -
From: Tom Reese
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
I really would like to shoot some landscapes with one. I bet that thing
gives some incredible full frame perspective.
If you promise not to steal it, maybe we could arrange a loan.
William Robb
Bill Robb made a most generous offer:
If you promise not to steal it, maybe we could arrange a loan (of his A
15/3.5).
Thank you for the offer Bill. I really appreciate it but I never borrow
anything I can't easily replace. I couldn't stand the guilt if something
happened to it while it was in
P. J. Alling wrote this about the different angle of view between the 15mm
and 20mm pentax lenses:
The actual 5° would make an enormous difference, 15° would make a
stupendous difference
Hmmm. I used the Field Of View Calculator on Boz's website:
On 24/6/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d202422.htm
Hm.
Look mighty familiar!!!
Cheers,
Cotty
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The actual 5° would make an enormous difference, 15° would make a
stupendous difference
Tom Reese wrote:
Mark (the Enabler) Roberts wrote:
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really would like to shoot some landscapes with one. I bet that
thing gives some incredible full frame
The numbers dont tell the whole story, you have to see it through a
viewfinder, (and in a picture).
Tom Reese wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote this about the different angle of view between the 15mm
and 20mm pentax lenses:
The actual 5° would make an enormous difference, 15° would make a
well, on the *istD, the DA 14 is a good substitute.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
BTW, curse you and that 15/3.5 lens. You got my curiosity up
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Oh sure, pour more fuel on the fire.
I already have an FA 20mm and I have some doubts about how much difference
that extra 15 degrees AOV would make. I really need to compare the two
lenses.
The only thing worse than wanting something is having
Herb Chong replied to my comments about wanting a 15/3.5 by writing:
well, on the *istD, the DA 14 is a good substitute.
That might be but it's a terrible substitute for a slide shooter using
an MZ-S.
Tom Reese
Very, very true.
Tom Reese wrote:
Herb Chong replied to my comments about wanting a 15/3.5 by writing:
well, on the *istD, the DA 14 is a good substitute.
That might be but it's a terrible substitute for a slide shooter using
an MZ-S.
Tom Reese
--
A man's only as old as the woman
Message -
From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
That might be but it's a terrible substitute for a slide shooter using an
MZ-S.
Herb Chong wrote:
the Sigma 12-24 is pretty good and not hugely expensive. mine is very
sharp. from comments here and other places, it seems that it suffers
from the usual Sigma problem of not so great QC. i got lucky and got a
good example. won't be as flare resistant as the Pentax, and bokeh
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Tom Reese
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Mark (the Enabler) Roberts wrote:
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really would like to shoot some landscapes with one. I bet that
thing gives some incredible full frame
Tom Reese wrote:
Bill Robb made a most generous offer:
If you promise not to steal it, maybe we could arrange a loan (of his A
15/3.5).
Thank you for the offer Bill. I really appreciate it but I never borrow
anything I can't easily replace. I couldn't stand the guilt if something
On 22/6/05, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
Here's another
A rooster lays an egg on a pitched roof that runs exactly north/south. The
question is
ready for this
Will the egg roll off the roof on the east or west side?
A 1000 pixels to the one with the correct answer.
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I brought a dead aircrash survivor to your car wash, would you insist
on checking his watermark
That teeters on the edge of being worthy of inclusion in the quotes list.
-
Email provided by
Cotty wrote:
On 22/6/05, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
Here's another
A rooster lays an egg on a pitched roof that runs exactly north/south. The
question is
ready for this
Will the egg roll off the roof on the east or west side?
A 1000 pixels to the one with
I don't understand why you thought you should fool us Europeans.
At least in Italy, I've already heard all of this jokes.
It may be just a little bit difficult to understand all those english
words, that's the only way to fool us, to not understand what
rooster stay for, but since I knew it I've
You are obviously in the right place, Danilo. The PDML is more of a community
than just a mailing list. Some of the nicest people in the world hang out here.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
danilo wrote:
I don't understand
Oh I'm not new here, I'm just a lurker, hence I second every one of
your words...
;)
danilo
Graywolf wrote:
The PDML is more of a community than just a mailing list. Some of the
nicest people in the world hang out here.
And we have Frank, Cotty and Bill Robb as well.
Tom Reese
uahahah rofl
On 23/6/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed:
And we have Frank, Cotty and Bill Robb as well.
Now hang on a minute mate. It's bad enough being lumped into the same
frying pan as Frank. But Rottweiler Robb as well??
Cheers,
Cotty
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- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
No one said it's a barometer for anything., Bill asked a question about
the area and I replied.
Don't take it personal. Remember, Paul is the guy who figures the children
of professional
- Original Message -
From: Tom Reese
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Graywolf wrote:
The PDML is more of a community than just a mailing list. Some of the
nicest people in the world hang out here.
And we have Frank, Cotty and Bill Robb as well.
Tom Reese
Reese's
- Original Message -
From: Paul Sorenson
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Cruel? You want cruel?
TRAGEDY IN EASTERN CANADA (Gander NFLD - CP)
Canada's worst air disaster occurred earlier today when a Cessna 152, a
small two-seater plane, crashed into a cemetery early
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Re: Are your photos too good?
Geez that is at least fifty years old.
The survivors get shipped to Kentucky for burial. That's where western
hemisphere air crash survivors have been buried for more than seventy
years
Alright, I'll bite, Whats black and blue and floats in St. John's harbor?
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson Subject: Re: Are
your photos too good?
Cruel? You want cruel?
TRAGEDY IN EASTERN CANADA (Gander NFLD - CP)
Canada's worst air disaster occurred
Okay look guys, if you operated a car wash, and I brought my car along,
would you insist on seeing my proof of ownership before you washed and
valeted it?
Cheers,
Cotty
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a different processor guy.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 6/21/2005 3:37:14 PM
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Hi Bill,
As said
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Hi Bill,
As said in an earlier message, a copied photo is pretty obvious. But
I
was
talking about film, scanned images on CD, and those images
digital in many situations. It seems I'm not alone in that feeling ... at
least not out here in the boonies LOL
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 6/22/2005 4:03:18 AM
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
I'm pleased to here
On 22/6/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Look, digital is on the march ... San Francisco will be the last bastion on
earth that uses film in any quantity. OK ... we'll at some point have to
go digital. We will ultimately embrace it and learn to like and accept it.
Ironic seeing
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Okay look guys, if you operated a car wash, and I brought my car along,
would you insist on seeing my proof of ownership before you washed and
valeted it?
No. As long as you realize the question and answer
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Okay look guys, if you operated a car wash, and I brought my car along,
would you insist on seeing my proof of ownership before you washed and
valeted it?
No. As long as you realize the question and answer are both irrelevant.
William
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/22 Wed PM 12:54:11 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Okay look guys, if you operated a car wash, and I brought my car along,
would
Geez that is at least fifty years old.
The survivors get shipped to Kentucky for burial. That's where western
hemisphere air crash survivors have been buried for more than seventy
years. Thought you'd fool us, did you!
Shel
From: Cotty
Okay, here's another question.
Imagine a
Cotty wrote:
Imagine a plane coming down and crashing *right* on the border between
Canada and the United States. Literally, half the plane on one side of
the border, and half the plane on the other side. So where do you bury
the survivors?
I'd advise against trying to bury them - they might
On 22/6/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
The survivors get shipped to Kentucky for burial. That's where western
hemisphere air crash survivors have been buried for more than seventy
years. Thought you'd fool us, did you!
LOL. Well, I was hoping to catch maybe one or two of our
On 22/6/05, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, unleashed:
I'd advise against trying to bury them - they might object.
C'mon Steve, I expect a mathematical formula as an explanation from you
young man
Cheers,
Cotty
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- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Okay, here's another question.
Imagine a plane coming down and crashing *right* on the border
between
Canada and the United States. Literally, half the plane on one side
of
the border, and half the plane on the other side. So where
so far, and
expect that number to climb as digging continues into the evening.
mike wilson wrote:
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/22 Wed PM 12:54:11 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Are your photos too
Jostein wrote:
Cotty wrote:
Imagine a plane coming down and crashing *right* on the border between
Canada and the United States. Literally, half the plane on one side of
the border, and half the plane on the other side. So where do you bury
the survivors?
That reminds me of the story about
photos too good?
Wrom: LBDXRQB
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Okay look guys, if you operated a car wash, and I brought my car along,
would you insist on seeing my proof of ownership before you washed and
valeted it?
No. As long as you realize the question and answer
From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/22 Wed PM 02:20:02 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Cruel? You want cruel?
TRAGEDY IN EASTERN CANADA (Gander NFLD - CP)
Canada's worst air disaster occurred earlier today when a Cessna 152
In Cotty's backyard. He will furish the the beer.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Cotty wrote:
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Okay look guys, if you operated a car wash, and I brought my car along
12:54:11 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
From: Cotty Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Okay look guys, if you operated a car wash, and I brought my car
along,
would you insist on seeing my proof of ownership before you washed
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Okay, here's another question.
Imagine a plane coming down and crashing *right* on the border between
Canada and the United States. Literally, half the plane on one side of
the border, and half the plane
On 22/6/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Imagine a plane coming down and crashing *right* on the border between
Canada and the United States. Literally, half the plane on one side of
the border, and half the plane on the other side. So where do you bury
the survivors?
Trick
Not before first asking if you'd like fries with that ...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Cotty
If I brought a dead aircrash survivor to your car wash, would you insist
on checking his watermark
More wine *hic*
On 6/22/05, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cruel? You want cruel?
TRAGEDY IN EASTERN CANADA (Gander NFLD - CP)
Canada's worst air disaster occurred earlier today when a Cessna 152, a
small two-seater plane, crashed into a cemetery early this morning in
central Newfoundland.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Okay look guys, if you operated a car wash, and I brought my car along,
would you insist on seeing
?
A 1000 pixels to the one with the correct answer.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
Wrom: EMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKY
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Wrom: LEJGDGV
Subject: Re
Rooster eh?
Queer bird and no mistake!
-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 11:52 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Here's another
A rooster lays an egg on a pitched roof that runs exactly
with the Walm-Mart (or other such labs) corporate mentality. No one has
ever asked me if the work was mine.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: William Robb
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
That seems to be a rather subjective concept
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
I'd be real pissed if I brought some work to my lab and Mo said Gee,
Shel,
that's better than anything you've ever done. It must have been done
professionally, so we're not going to print it. OTOH
I next see her. I'd like to know what, if any, policy her lab has.
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
I'd be real pissed if I brought some work to my lab and Mo said Gee, Shel,
that's better than anything you've ever done. It must have
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Hi Bill,
As said in an earlier message, a copied photo is pretty obvious. But I was
talking about film, scanned images on CD, and those images on memory
cards.
Therin lies the problem for us.
It's
]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 6/21/2005 3:37:14 PM
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Hi Bill,
As said in an earlier message, a copied photo is pretty obvious. But I
was
talking about film
not even show
a passport or driver license to somebody else than the police, I'm in no way
obliged to do so.
greetings
Markus
From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 3:43 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Rob S replied;
I don't
On 19 Jun 2005 at 21:42, Butch Black wrote:
Go back to the deep pocket theory. Who would you rather sue? Joe six-pack
net worth $50G or Wally-World, net worth $50B. Plus my guess is that suing the
customer would get the photographer little more then legal costs But you
Honor,
I just wanted
On 19 Jun 2005 at 21:42, Butch Black wrote:
Go back to the deep pocket theory. Who would you rather sue? Joe six-pack
net worth $50G or Wally-World, net worth $50B. Plus my guess is that suing
the
customer would get the photographer little more then legal costs But you
Honor,
I just wanted
That seems to be a rather subjective concept. How is the photofinisher
really supposed to know who made the photo? In some instances if an actual
photo is brought in for copying or duplication, it may be easier to tell.
But what about a roll of film, or pics on a CD or memory card?
Shel
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Go back to the deep pocket theory. Who would you rather sue? Joe six-pack
net worth $50G or Wally-World, net worth $50B. Plus my guess is that
suing the
customer would get the photographer little more
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
That seems to be a rather subjective concept.
Laws are somewhat subjective things.
William Robb
That seems to be a rather subjective concept. How is the photofinisher
really supposed to know who made the photo? In some instances if an actual
photo is brought in for copying or duplication, it may be easier to tell.
But what about a roll of film, or pics on a CD or memory card?
Shel
It is
On 18/6/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
We are paranoid because we don't want to accidentally break the law and then
get busted.
We want to be erring on the side of caution.
thanks for the info - points taken.
I had never thought that this goes one, but in retrospect, I am not
Hi William
how do you prove ownership of a digital image?
With film, I can crop the published image a bit and show you the negative as
a prove.
greetings
Markus
that it is the
wrong thing to do, and the law happens to agree with us.
All the customer has to do is prove ownership.
William Robb
On 18 Jun 2005 at 11:43, William Robb wrote:
The law, in this instance is not about intent, it's about actions.
And yes, we are a really easy target to take potshots at, so we are
exceptionally careful.
We use customers photos from time to time, with written permission.
Verbal agreements
- Original Message -
From: Markus Maurer
Subject: RE: Are your photos too good?
Hi William
how do you prove ownership of a digital image?
Thats your problem as a photographer, not mine as a photofinisher.
I would really like an ironclad way of being able to tell at the counter
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
On 18 Jun 2005 at 11:43, William Robb wrote:
The law, in this instance is not about intent, it's about actions.
And yes, we are a really easy target to take potshots at, so we are
exceptionally careful
On 19 Jun 2005 at 8:06, William Robb wrote:
The copyright owners don't want to sue decietful customers, it's bad for
getting repeat business or referals. It's much easier and generally
financially more viable to go after a large faceless corporation than
someone who's wedding you
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
I guess copyright holders like you guys making prints then, seems like a
scam
to wring cash out of big corporations.
Some photographers will attempt to sting us by sending people
On 19 Jun 2005 at 8:47, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
I guess copyright holders like you guys making prints then, seems like a
scam
to wring cash out of big corporations.
Some photographers
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
In our little backwater we would treat such an action if proven as fraud.
We treat it as a copy with permission, and breath a sigh of relief that we
dodged one.
William Robb
:-)
Sharp means (here) elegant, posh, great, stylish etc.
Regards
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 18. juni 2005 18:02
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Are your photos too good
Hi Jens
and of course I would like to see you in that sharp outfit or at least see a
photo of the Bubettis ;-)
greetings
Markus
-Original Message-
From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:09 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Are your photos too
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Are your photos too good?
Or one that's in focus, not taken with a Point and Shoot. Under those
terms Frank's work is fair game.
Steve Jolly wrote:
David Mann wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=528e=1u=/ap/20050617/ap_on_hi_te
Comments interspersed. If this has been covered already, sorry, I'm behind
on the digest.
On 18 Jun 2005 at 11:43, William Robb wrote:
The law, in this instance is not about intent, it's about actions.
And yes, we are a really easy target to take potshots at, so we are
exceptionally careful.
Two things I forgot to add that would p**s me off. Not marking proofs with a
copyright notice and photojournalistic wedding photographers with no
notice, as they were the hardest to tell from an amateur's effort.
Butch
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=528e=1u=/ap/20050617/
ap_on_hi_te/photo_printing_frustration
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
David Mann wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=528e=1u=/ap/20050617/
ap_on_hi_te/photo_printing_frustration
I particularly like the implication that a professional photograph is
one that has been sharpened in Photoshop...
S
On 18/6/05, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=528e=1u=/ap/20050617/
ap_on_hi_te/photo_printing_frustration
Cheers,
- Dave
LOL.
Load a rubbish!
Cheers,
Cotty
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- Original Message -
From: David Mann
Subject: Are your photos too good?
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=528e=1u=/ap/20050617/
ap_on_hi_te/photo_printing_frustration
More and more, this is becoming a frustrating issue in the industry.
We are routinely pulling customer
They should have implemented this fifty years ago to protect their
business against negative thieves.
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 11:59 AM
Subject: Are your photos too good?
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! Advertising use. Loss of profits. Big no-no.
As I said money is the real issue.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
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William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: David Mann
Subject: Are your photos too good?
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Or one that's in focus, not taken with a Point and Shoot. Under those
terms Frank's work is fair game.
Steve Jolly wrote:
David Mann wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=528e=1u=/ap/20050617/
ap_on_hi_te/photo_printing_frustration
I particularly like the implication that a
- Original Message -
From: Graywolf
Subject: Re: Are your photos too good?
Sell lots of them. You will need the money.
Which is the point I have been trying to make. It is not about the image.
It is about the right to the profits from the image. Paul has the right ot
all profits
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