Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 28, 2011, at 13:16 , P. J. Alling wrote: On 12/26/2011 3:59 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Dec 26, 2011, at 06:34 , Cotty wrote: On 25/12/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The school I went to we used an audio recorder to simultaneously record a quality audio track.

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-28 Thread P. J. Alling
On 12/26/2011 3:59 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Dec 26, 2011, at 06:34 , Cotty wrote: On 25/12/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The school I went to we used an audio recorder to simultaneously record a quality audio track. The on camera audio was only used to synchronize the

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/12/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The school I went to we used an audio recorder to simultaneously record a quality audio track. The on camera audio was only used to synchronize the audio with the video when we edited. This is an excellent idea. Two people with

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-26 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 26, 2011, at 06:34 , Cotty wrote: On 25/12/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The school I went to we used an audio recorder to simultaneously record a quality audio track. The on camera audio was only used to synchronize the audio with the video when we edited. This

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/12/11, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: Stick with cassette recorders. They're a proven technology. :-) What proven shite? -- ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-26 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 26, 2011, at 13:01 , Cotty wrote: On 26/12/11, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: Stick with cassette recorders. They're a proven technology. :-) What proven shite? -- ;-) You know it's working 'cause you can see the hubs go round Cotty. Couldn't do that with

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: Joseph McAllister On Dec 26, 2011, at 06:34 , Cotty wrote: On 25/12/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The school I went to we used an audio recorder to simultaneously record a quality audio track. The on camera audio was only used to synchronize the audio with the video

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 December 2011 10:25, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Joseph McAllister School used Zoom H4. I have the H4n but the new H2n looks like a nice compact and very capable recorder too. -- Rob Studdert (DigitalĀ  Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay,

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cotty wrote: On 22/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: 1 - I'd like a directional mic for recording at a concert, hopefully getting music instead of public noise. Mate, I hate to say this but with a cheap and cheerful camera-mounted 3.5mm jack unbalanced mic, you are not

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cory Waters wrote: I don't believe the impedance mismatch is the source of your problems. Most audio electronics will have a much higher specified input impedance than the corresponding output of the source device. Thanks! There's some quick reading here:

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: This boost in the microphone output allows the user to reduce the camera's preamp level (or mic-input level), effectively reducing the amount of noise generated by the camera's comparatively low quality audio circuitry. Is there a manual

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cotty wrote: On 24/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: This boost in the microphone output allows the user to reduce the camera's preamp level (or mic-input level), effectively reducing the amount of noise generated by the camera's comparatively low quality audio circuitry.

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-24 Thread Cory Waters
I bet the camera has some bit automatic circuitry that adjusts the input level for external sources. Given the lack of importance video people generally place in how the audio sounds (really tall Empire-types excluded, of course), I wouldn't be surprised if that circuit was designed by the

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-24 Thread John Sessoms
The school I went to we used an audio recorder to simultaneously record a quality audio track. The on camera audio was only used to synchronize the audio with the video when we edited. From: Cory Waters I bet the camera has some bit automatic circuitry that adjusts the input level for

Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Dario Bonazza
Hi all, Anybody here having experience with Pentax DSRL video recording? I especially ask which mic is better for the K-5. I've tried the SG-108: http://www.amazon.co.uk/SG-108-Microphone-microphone-Samsung-Camcorders/dp/B004UN9I2O and the result is crap: almost unintellegible and nothing

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: Anybody here having experience with Pentax DSRL video recording? I especially ask which mic is better for the K-5. I've tried the SG-108: http://www.amazon.co.uk/SG-108-Microphone-microphone-Samsung-Camcorders/ dp/B004UN9I2O and the result

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Joseph McAllister
Dario, I purchased the RODE VideoMic that is show in all the images from Pentax re: video recording. It works great, but the formed mic muffler that covers it from the factory is only good for indoor use. You have to spend a few bucks more for a proper wind attenuating cover, the ones that look

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cotty wrote: Dario, I'm afraid I can't answer your specific questions about recording video and mics for DSRLs as they use an unbalanced system. I do however use balanced systems and have a reasonable knowledge of video an audio. There are some interesting tutorials and links which may be of

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Dario Bonazza
Joseph McAllister wrote: Dario, I purchased the RODE VideoMic that is show in all the images from Pentax re: video recording. It works great, but the formed mic muffler that covers it from the factory is only good for indoor use. You have to spend a few bucks more for a proper wind attenuating

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: Is the 200 ohm output of the cheap Chinese Sg-18 mic responsible for the barely audible sound level I got? I had this suspect since the K-5 specs say that input impedance is 2.2 Kohm. If so, why should the Rode SVM mic everybody suggest be

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: 1 - I'd like a directional mic for recording at a concert, hopefully getting music instead of public noise. Mate, I hate to say this but with a cheap and cheerful camera-mounted 3.5mm jack unbalanced mic, you are not going to get the sound

RE: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: Dario Bonazza Hi all, Anybody here having experience with Pentax DSRL video recording? I especially ask which mic is better for the K-5. I've tried the SG-108: http://www.amazon.co.uk/SG-108-Microphone-microphone-Samsung-Camcorders/dp/B004UN9I2O and the result is crap: almost

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Cory Waters
I don't believe the impedance mismatch is the source of your problems. Most audio electronics will have a much higher specified input impedance than the corresponding output of the source device. There's some quick reading here: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/audio/imped.html#c1

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Cory Waters
If you have to deal with me, you're SOL, buddy... CW On 12/22/2011 11:28 AM, Cotty wrote: On 22/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: 1 - I'd like a directional mic for recording at a concert, hopefully getting music instead of public noise. Mate, I hate to say this but with a

Re: Mic for DSLR video?

2011-12-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/11, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed: If you have to deal with me, you're SOL, buddy... Actually that would be cl ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML