Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-13 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:05:42 +0200 schreef K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]: snip When gazing at the picture of the K10D with a lens attached, mounting surface does not appear visible (lens looks like attached close to body surface). If that's the case, as someone pointed out, only new lenses

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-13 Thread P. J. Alling
O ring seals that caused the Challenger to explode... (Sort of non sequitur in this context thought). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:25:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From the diagram in Steve's digicam, lens mount appears to have an O ring

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-13 Thread Adam Maas
Actually, it was the lack of them that caused it (Seal failure). -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: O ring seals that caused the Challenger to explode... (Sort of non sequitur in this context thought). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:25:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:10, P. J. Alling wrote: O ring seals that caused the Challenger to explode... (Sort of non sequitur in this context thought). Well incorrectly-used O-ring seals, in any case. They were being asked to do much more than an o-ring ought to do. -Charles --

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-13 Thread frank theriault
On 9/12/06, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel, I wasn't complaining by any stretch! snip You were so! Stop tapdancing. cheers, frank g -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Mike Hamilton
What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) will be weather sealed. If so, that's going to be an expensive lens, given the super-sonic motor and fast aperture... Perhaps Pentax's most expensive zoom

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Where has that be said ... can you provide a pointer? Shel [Original Message] From: Thibouille 16-50/2.8 is said to be about 1000 dollars. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
that announced anywhere? Shel [Original Message] From: Mike Hamilton What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) will be weather sealed. If so, that's going to be an expensive lens, given the super-sonic motor

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Thibouille
16-50/2.8 is said to be about 1000 dollars. 2006/9/12, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) will be weather sealed. If so, that's going to be an expensive lens

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I remember it being said before on this list... '-) G On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Where has that be said ... can you provide a pointer? 16-50/2.8 is said to be about 1000 dollars. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
Mail List Subject: RE: Weather-sealed body Y'gotta start somewhere. You've won the prize for being the first person to complain about the new camera. I wondered how long it would take before complaints and criticisms started. What makes you think the upcoming 16-50/2.8 will have a super-sonic

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Mike Hamilton wrote: What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) will be weather sealed. ... I fully expect that if they have gone the distance to a weather sealed body

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 12:36 PM, Thibouille, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 16-50/2.8 is said to be about 1000 dollars. 2006/9/12, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Adam Maas
Mike Hamilton wrote: What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) will be weather sealed. If so, that's going to be an expensive lens, given the super-sonic motor and fast aperture... Perhaps Pentax's

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Mike Hamilton
will have a super-sonic motor - I don't recall seeing that announced anywhere? Shel [Original Message] From: Mike Hamilton What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) will be weather sealed

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 10:11:26AM -0600, Mike Hamilton wrote: What is the purpose of a weather sealed body without any sealed lenses? I imagine that the two upcoming lenses (16-50/2.8 being one) will be weather sealed. If so, that's going to be an expensive lens, given the super-sonic motor

RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Actually, I do enjoy all the discussion and anticipation that surrounds rumors. More interesting reading than some purely technical discussions, such as how many photons can fit on the head of a pixel LOL Shel [Original Message] From: Tim Øsleby Rumours and/or documents being circulated

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 12:44 PM, Shel Belinkoff, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where has that be said ... can you provide a pointer? There are all sorts of info floating around, accurate or false, but I do not think people are posting the complete fabrication etc. Each person must have reasons to tell things

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
From the diagram in Steve's digicam, lens mount appears to have an O ring type seal. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My mistake just seemed that way from here ... glad to know that you weren't 'cause the prize is on back order LOL Shel [Original Message] From: Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 9/12/2006 10:31:49 AM Subject: Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I didn't deny the presence of that, just questioned where/what the source was. Shel [Original Message] From: Mike Hamilton As for the SSM, that was based on the speculation that has been circulating the list for some time. Aside from you, has anyone denied the presence of that? --

Re: RE: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Mike Hamilton wrote: replacing the fairly recent 16-45/4 lens with a 16-50/2.8 (aside from the minor aperture and focal length differences). Don't you think? Minor? Pentax had a 28-70/4 and a 28-70/2.8 selling at the same time in the recent past. I can't believe one was

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: From the diagram in Steve's digicam, lens mount appears to have an O ring type seal. Indeed it does. That's interesting. Canon put the seal on the back of the lenses (L). With the K10D you can seal camera to any lens. (calm down, I'm not

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Douglas Newman
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed it does. That's interesting. Canon put the seal on the back of the lenses (L). With the K10D you can seal camera to any lens. I'm not so sure about that. I think you will find that the 1-series D-SLRs (and the EOS-1V) have gaskets on the lens mount,

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:25:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From the diagram in Steve's digicam, lens mount appears to have an O ring type seal. Indeed it does. That's interesting. Canon put the seal on the back of the lenses (L). With the K10D you can seal camera

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 4:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please clarify. I clueless about what an O ring type seal is. O ring is usually made of rubber (for most low presure applications. sometimes a thin tubular metal etc) with a circular cross section. It is used to seal the circular

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 4:57 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's on the mount surface, any lens can be sealed. It may be bit harder to retain the ring in place but O rings are usually very easy to replace. If it's on the mount surface, it could be a very thin rubber ring, like 1mm dia which

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 5:03 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be a dovetail-like groove to which the rubber O ring is pushed in and only a very slight amount is protruding outside. Someone questioned if all lenses could be sealed. That's a good question because the retaining the O ring

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/9/06, Douglas Newman, discombobulated, unleashed: I think you will find that the 1-series D-SLRs (and the EOS-1V) have gaskets on the lens mount, as well: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos1dsmkii/page5.asp Aha. The Pentax K10D seal is around the lens mount-to-body position, then.

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: I wonder how canon is doing it. There's a rubber seal on the back of L lenses that fits flush with the lens mount. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/09/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/06 5:03 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be a dovetail-like groove to which the rubber O ring is pushed in and only a very slight amount is protruding outside. Someone questioned if all lenses could be sealed.

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 5:19 PM, Cotty, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how canon is doing it. There's a rubber seal on the back of L lenses that fits flush with the lens mount. Hmm, that's interesting. I wondered why they did not seal the body side but when taking a look at my canon body, I can see

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/12/06 5:53 PM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't get to see this famed leaky release but looking at the huge press kit photos I see no gasket of any kind on the very visible mount.? You are probably right. See my later post. IMO, Pentax cannot possibly put any

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
The LX has a seal between the mount and the body, so Pentax has been there before. Paul On Sep 12, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Cotty wrote: On 12/9/06, Douglas Newman, discombobulated, unleashed: I think you will find that the 1-series D-SLRs (and the EOS-1V) have gaskets on the lens mount, as well:

Re: Weather-sealed body

2006-09-12 Thread graywolf
Just tell them to take the back off their Rolex and look at it. Then send the watch back to Rolex, or take it to a good dive shop, to have it recertified grin. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof