Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 24, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, just to follow-up on my earlier stuff I was making a big error. Exmor does not equal Exmor-R. The APS-C sensor is the plain vanilla Exmor (not the backlit Exmor-R technology). This page explains the improvements that came with the plain

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-26 Thread Boris Liberman
I totally concur here. I'm in the middle of Galia's and mine trip to USA and even in Chicago I could get good pictures with 33mm lens of my Ricoh. The 50 mm equivalent focal length is extremely versatile. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: is on the KEH website

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 September 2012 04:06, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the $2000 Pentax-A* 135mm f1.8. Some say it is one of the 4 or 5 best lenses Pentax has ever made, but I would love to see a comparison between it and the K 135mm f2.5 (or the same optics in the S-M-C Takumar 135mm

a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Doug Brewer
is on the KEH website right now: http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Autofocus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-AP06999048589N?r=FE It's my most used lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow, there's actually 2 of them, the other a bit o more with caps and hood. I always wanted this lens but was always spending my money something else. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: is on the KEH website right now:

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
This lens (FA 35mm f2) is a bit less sought after since the introduction of the Pentax DA 35mm f/2.4 AL which, by all reports, gives close to the same sort of performance for about half of the price. I think that has reduced demand and prices on what this lens was fetching prior that lens being

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard to dispute the convenience of a zoom, particularly when working quickly and efficiently is important. Paul This lens (FA 35mm f2) is a bit less sought after since the

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread John Sessoms
KEH seems to have them quite frequently. From: Steven Desjardins Wow, there's actually 2 of them, the other a bit o more with caps and hood. I always wanted this lens but was always spending my money something else. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: is on

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ... The FA35/2 AL was my most used lens until I obtained te FA43/1.9 Limited. I much preferred it to the FA31/1.8 Limited too. :-) Never found it to be less sharp than any zoom, the only zoom I used that was on par (but two stops slower) was the FA20-35/4 AL. G On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. Almost $2K in bargain condition! http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE On 9/24/2012 11:20 AM, Doug Brewer

RE: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard to dispute the convenience of a zoom, particularly when working

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. Almost $2K in bargain condition!

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard to dispute the convenience of a zoom, particularly when working quickly and efficiently is important. Bit of a size/weight

RE: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard to dispute the convenience of a zoom, particularly when working quickly and efficiently

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
Regarding the $2000 Pentax-A* 135mm f1.8. Some say it is one of the 4 or 5 best lenses Pentax has ever made, but I would love to see a comparison between it and the K 135mm f2.5 (or the same optics in the S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). *That* is a stellar lens (albeit without A

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. Almost $2K in bargain condition!

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/24/2012 1:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. Almost $2K in bargain condition!

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 24, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard to dispute the convenience of a zoom,

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
1:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have the FA 35/2 but almost never use it. The DA* 16-50 is sharper and more contrasty at every stop IMO, and it's hard to dispute the convenience of a zoom

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:37 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/24/2012 1:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
The SMC P 135mm f2.5 has been called the poor mans A*135. I have never even seen a A*135 but I have one each of the 135mm f2.5 in K and M42 (SMCT), and I can attest to their excellent imaging qualities both on film and digital. I was able to get them quite inexpensively mostly because 135mm

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
ROFLMAO… FA lenses don't have the edge sharpness that the DA lenses deliver. They're not engineered to work with a sensor, and it's obvious in the results. P On Sep 24, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: LOL ... The FA35/2 AL was my most used lens until I

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/24/2012 2:47 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:37 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/24/2012 1:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/

RE: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Stenquist Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 2:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... ROFLMAO. FA lenses don't have the edge sharpness that the DA lenses deliver. They're not engineered to work with a sensor, and it's obvious in the results. P On Sep 24, 2012

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to compensate for the fact that the sensor is most sensitive to perpendicular light. Film did not have this issue, hence FA

RE: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL... Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to compensate for the fact that the sensor is most sensitive

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to compensate for the fact that the sensor is most sensitive to perpendicular light. Film

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread John Sessoms
It's still there at 3:30. Being broke suX. They also have 300 F2.8 SMC FA ED INTERNAL FOCUS (43 DROP-IN) WITH FILTERS WITH HOOD, CAPS, CASE, 35MM SLR AUTO FOCUS TELEPHOTO LENS http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Autofocus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-AP06999107182R?r=FE I wonder if maybe

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
re: improved off-axis light performance for Exmor sensor design After writing my last post about asking Falk Lumo about this, I decided to do it so sent him a PM through Pentax Forums. I'll pass along any reply he may have time to give if and when it happens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Toralf Lund
On 9/24/12 17:59, Darren Addy wrote: This lens (FA 35mm f2) is a bit less sought after since the introduction of the Pentax DA 35mm f/2.4 AL which, by all reports, gives close to the same sort of performance for about half of the price. I think that has reduced demand and prices on what this

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Naa, that's nothing, KEH also has the /truely/ legendary A* 135mm f1.8 in stock at this very moment. Look fast it won't last. Almost $2K in bargain condition!

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to compensate for the fact that the sensor

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
Bad form to reply to oneself, but since I'm mostly talking to myself here I pass this along just to be complete. : ) I found the following illustration of how sensors were always discussed pre-Exmor. A lot of people still discuss them this way, throwing them all in the same bucket.

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Pentax literature points out how the final element of DA glass is configured to direct the photons at right angles to the sensor to compensate for the

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
Well, just to follow-up on my earlier stuff I was making a big error. Exmor does not equal Exmor-R. The APS-C sensor is the plain vanilla Exmor (not the backlit Exmor-R technology). This page explains the improvements that came with the plain vanilla Exmor:

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: It's probably a mistranslation, then. Astigmatism is a lens aberration in which light rays are bent differently along the horizontal axis with respect to the vertical. Or vice-versa ;-) To clarify: Imagine a + sign. With a lens exhibiting significant astigmatism you could get

Re: a legendary FA 35 f/2 AL...

2012-09-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
I diagnosed myself with having an astigmatism while in the Navy in 1965, off the coast of Vietnam. I noticed a difference in the lines of a bar-code when I was sitting up or lying down at about 15 feet from the cardboard box. It has only gotten marginally worse 47 years later. Maybe we should