Re: Pentax Spotted

[Jack Davis]

A bit arty, but well spotted.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:38 AM, Alan C  wrote:
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> A local TV show, Carte Blanche, ran an item on DNA & Facial recognition 
> profiling last night. This image appeared in a snippet from an American Lab.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/45488710581/
> 
> Taken by a pal with his K500 & Super Tak 55mm
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Re: Pentax spotted

[P. J. Alling]

What, Ricoh has hired a marketing staff to sell Pentax, why, why, 
that's... Blasphemy!



On 5/11/2018 12:39 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Also, Ricoh has a full page add on the back cover of the latest Outdoor 
Photographer magazine.

-Original Message-

From: Gonz 

Re: Pentax spotted

[Ken Waller]

Also, Ricoh has a full page add on the back cover of the latest Outdoor 
Photographer magazine.

-Original Message-
>From: Gonz Subject: Pentax spotted
>
>https://fstoppers.com/business/are-you-pricing-your-photography-services-correctly-248648
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Re: Pentax Spotted

[John Francis]

On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 12:28:43PM -0600, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:
> Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my photography page
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674
> 
> I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without having
> to be logged into Facebook.
> 
> Jeffery Johnson
> 
> > Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me to
> > create an account obscured it.

Just click on "Not Now" and the pop-up pops back down.

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Re: Pentax Spotted

[ann sanfedele]

We had been wondering where Knarf was!

ann

On 12/8/2017 4:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



mike wilson wrote:

On 08 December 2017 at 18:28 "PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com"
  wrote:


Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my 
photography page


https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674

I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without
having to be logged into Facebook.


Your naivety is very refreshing and utterly misplaced.  Pop!



A lot of times there is a special link to use to make facebook photos 
and albums publicly, you might need to click on the gear shaped icon 
near the photo then "get link"





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Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me
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Re: Pentax Spotted

[Larry Colen]

mike wilson wrote:

On 08 December 2017 at 18:28 "PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com"
  wrote:


Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my photography page

https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674

I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without
having to be logged into Facebook.


Your naivety is very refreshing and utterly misplaced.  Pop!



A lot of times there is a special link to use to make facebook photos 
and albums publicly, you might need to click on the gear shaped icon 
near the photo then "get link"





Jeffery Johnson


Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me
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Re: Pentax Spotted

[mike wilson]

> On 08 December 2017 at 18:28 "PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my photography page
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674
> 
> I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without 
> having to be logged into Facebook.

Your naivety is very refreshing and utterly misplaced.  Pop!

> 
> Jeffery Johnson
> 
> > Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me 
> > to create an account obscured it.

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Re: Pentax Spotted

[PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com]

Okay let me try this from my regular Facebook instead of my photography page

https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.t.johnson.7/posts/1985563248126674

I have the post public so maybe it will allow viewing of it without 
having to be logged into Facebook.


Jeffery Johnson

Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me 
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Re: Pentax Spotted

[John]

On 12/7/2017 18:06, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:

Here is something to brighten your evening, night, morning

https://www.facebook.com/PhotoCapturesbyJeffery/posts/1499730210096658

Do let me know if you were able to view it.



Saw it for just a few seconds before a Facebook pop-up that wanted me to create 
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Re: Pentax Spotted

[PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com]

Not Sure John if it is limited lens or not :-)

Jeffery Johnson | Photo Captures by Jeffery
http://www.PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com
/Diverse range of photography Artistic - Animals - Events/Festivals - 
Transportation - Pets - Nature - Scenic - Cityscape. That you can 
purchase as framed or unframed prints, with loads of variety in home 
decor./

On 12/7/2017 8:31 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 05:06:35PM -0600, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:

Here is something to brighten your evening, night, morning

https://www.facebook.com/PhotoCapturesbyJeffery/posts/1499730210096658
  
Is that a Limited lens that bunny has there?





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Re: Pentax Spotted

[John Francis]

On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 05:06:35PM -0600, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:
> Here is something to brighten your evening, night, morning
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/PhotoCapturesbyJeffery/posts/1499730210096658
 
Is that a Limited lens that bunny has there?


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Re: Pentax spotted

[John]

On 2/23/2017 2:56 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 23/2/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


Most of my jokes are for the humor impaired.


I'd say all.



Be nice!

In truth, Larry's jokes are NOT for the humor impaired, nor for the slow
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Re: Pentax spotted

[Steve Cottrell]

On 23/2/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Most of my jokes are for the humor impaired.

I'd say all.

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Re: Pentax spotted

[Larry Colen]

P. J. Alling wrote:

Don't you know, just stuff the film into the NAS and viola* the images
are in right there...

*that's a joke for the humor impaired, (voilà).


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[P. J. Alling]

Don't you know, just stuff the film into the NAS and viola* the images 
are in right there...


*that's a joke for the humor impaired, (voilà).


On 2/19/2017 6:03 PM, Gonz wrote:

K1000, which seems to be not the right type of camera to be showing
next to an NAS.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/hard-drive-reviews/wd-pr4100-nas-review/




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Re: Pentax spotted

[Bob W-PDML]

Nice lens

> On 19 Feb 2017, at 23:03, Gonz  wrote:
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> K1000, which seems to be not the right type of camera to be showing
> next to an NAS.
> 
> http://www.digitaltrends.com/hard-drive-reviews/wd-pr4100-nas-review/
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Re: Pentax spotted

[Jack Davis]

Yep, Lik is the saturation master, without a doubt. ;)
He well knows the rewards of super saturating nature.
Just not my cup of tea.

J

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Subject: Re: Pentax spotted

I agree Paul.  If I only looked at photos as an investment, I would
never buy any photo.  If I buy them, its because there is something I
like about it enough to part with my money.  And if I really like it,
it might just take up some better real estate on my walls.  I wouldn't
mind having this Lik on one of my walls for example:
http://www.lik.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/u/autumn-impressions.jpg

Of course, getting me to part with that much money is going to be the
gatekeeper here.



On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:24 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 if Lik's message sells photo, then it’s a good one. I sometimes hustle photos 
 when I shoot cars for publications. The owners will be much more likely to 
 buy if I praise their car and tell them I’m going to make a print for myself. 
 “Would you like one as well?” On a $1200 shoot for Mopar Action, I usually 
 sell $2000 worth of photos.

 I think there are perhaps two PDML members who are as skillful as Lik. I 
 won’t name them, but I will say that I’m certainly not one of them. I know 
 when I’m outclassed. He’s a damn good photographer, and if he can sell his 
 work, more power to him. I don’t think he should say that it’s a good 
 investment, but it’s okay to say that it might be a good investment. I 
 haven’t seen his pitch, so I don’t know.

 If you’re a photo hobbyist, you don’t have to worry about salesmanship, but 
 if you intend to earn a living at photography, you have to be a businessman, 
 and given how hard it is to sell photos, you better have a real good story.  
 I earn a very good living selling communications, although the vast majority 
 of it is copy, not photography. But it still requires working the beat and 
 salesmanship.

 Paul
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@me.com wrote:

 Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
 photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. 
 What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I 
 consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it 
 with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who 
 earn more than I do. More power to them.

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:



 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great 
 deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.

 However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't 
 make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage 
 we use.



 Paul via phone

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:



 John wrote:
 He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

 It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
 actually used some of the equipment he reviews.
 I was just about to phrase it as:

 Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically 
 as Mr. Rockwell.

 But, yeah.


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Re: Pentax spotted

[Gonz]

I agree Paul.  If I only looked at photos as an investment, I would
never buy any photo.  If I buy them, its because there is something I
like about it enough to part with my money.  And if I really like it,
it might just take up some better real estate on my walls.  I wouldn't
mind having this Lik on one of my walls for example:
http://www.lik.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/u/autumn-impressions.jpg

Of course, getting me to part with that much money is going to be the
gatekeeper here.



On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:24 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 if Lik's message sells photo, then it’s a good one. I sometimes hustle photos 
 when I shoot cars for publications. The owners will be much more likely to 
 buy if I praise their car and tell them I’m going to make a print for myself. 
 “Would you like one as well?” On a $1200 shoot for Mopar Action, I usually 
 sell $2000 worth of photos.

 I think there are perhaps two PDML members who are as skillful as Lik. I 
 won’t name them, but I will say that I’m certainly not one of them. I know 
 when I’m outclassed. He’s a damn good photographer, and if he can sell his 
 work, more power to him. I don’t think he should say that it’s a good 
 investment, but it’s okay to say that it might be a good investment. I 
 haven’t seen his pitch, so I don’t know.

 If you’re a photo hobbyist, you don’t have to worry about salesmanship, but 
 if you intend to earn a living at photography, you have to be a businessman, 
 and given how hard it is to sell photos, you better have a real good story.  
 I earn a very good living selling communications, although the vast majority 
 of it is copy, not photography. But it still requires working the beat and 
 salesmanship.

 Paul
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@me.com wrote:

 Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
 photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. 
 What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I 
 consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it 
 with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who 
 earn more than I do. More power to them.

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:



 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great 
 deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.

 However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't 
 make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage 
 we use.



 Paul via phone

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:



 John wrote:
 He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

 It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
 actually used some of the equipment he reviews.
 I was just about to phrase it as:

 Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically 
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 But, yeah.


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RE: Pentax spotted

[Malcolm Smith]

Larry Colen wrote:

 It's not so much that people offer him that sort of money for his
 photos, but that they are told that the photos are a good investment,
 when in reality, they are nearly guaranteed to lose money:
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for-
 success-sell-prints-print-money.html
 
 Here is another interesting article:
 http://scottreither.com/blogwp/2012/06/11/peter-lik-gallery-
 photographer-my-story/

It's the world of the bizarre, and I can't help feeling that most of those
paying extreme amounts of money for prints (one off or limited edition),
must be getting them to offset tax in some way.

I can look on these images a very different way. I'm not in any way
connected with the industry and my photographic interest is as a hobby only,
and I have no desire to it ever becoming more than it is. I very much enjoy
looking at local galleries and occasionally I'll see something I think that
I will have a go at shooting my own version of.

However, when I see prints selling at these sums, I think the more expensive
they are moves them further away from art and photography all the time. They
become financial instruments, or items bought because 'x' person has one.
This all smells of money with multiple galleries; it is the fast art
equivalent of a fast food franchise.

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Re: Pentax spotted

[Larry Colen]

Ken Waller wrote:

However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the
PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than
most of the other landscape photos.


The difference is he is a well known name if photographic circles and as
far as I know none on the PDML'ers are.


I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money
by selling his photos as an artwork investment.


So I assume if someone were to offer you an ungodly amount for one of
your images you'd refuse !


It's not so much that people offer him that sort of money for his 
photos, but that they are told that the photos are a good investment, 
when in reality, they are nearly guaranteed to lose money:


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for-success-sell-prints-print-money.html

Here is another interesting article:
http://scottreither.com/blogwp/2012/06/11/peter-lik-gallery-photographer-my-story/

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Re: Pentax spotted

[Christine Aguila]

To pick up on Paul’s point, this 2013 article on how Andreas Gursky started 
selling big might be of interest to others—it speaks well to Paul’s point of 
the role of auction houses, galleries, and art dealers—see 2nd graph and on.

http://gizmodo.com/what-does-it-take-to-sell-the-most-expensive-photograph-838447250


Also, here’s a list of the most expensive photos:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_photographs


Cheers, Christine

 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 9:16 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 While future generations and the test of time will  have to decide if Mr. 
 Lik’s work is indeed valuable art, the fact that it sells for big prices now 
 is not a determining factor in measuring its worth. The world’s greatest art 
 sells for astronomical sums, in part due to good marketing by auction houses 
 and galleries. It’s all about deriving as much benefit as possible. Lik is 
 entitled to whatever he gets, and those who buy his photos do so willingly. 
 
 Lik is of course an obnoxious boor and a severe egotist. (They say Mozart was 
 as well.) But that should never be a factor in evaluating his work. 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:57 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 
 Larry Colen wrote:
 
 It's not so much that people offer him that sort of money for his
 photos, but that they are told that the photos are a good investment,
 when in reality, they are nearly guaranteed to lose money:
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for-
 success-sell-prints-print-money.html
 
 Here is another interesting article:
 http://scottreither.com/blogwp/2012/06/11/peter-lik-gallery-
 photographer-my-story/
 
 It's the world of the bizarre, and I can't help feeling that most of those
 paying extreme amounts of money for prints (one off or limited edition),
 must be getting them to offset tax in some way.
 
 I can look on these images a very different way. I'm not in any way
 connected with the industry and my photographic interest is as a hobby only,
 and I have no desire to it ever becoming more than it is. I very much enjoy
 looking at local galleries and occasionally I'll see something I think that
 I will have a go at shooting my own version of.
 
 However, when I see prints selling at these sums, I think the more expensive
 they are moves them further away from art and photography all the time. They
 become financial instruments, or items bought because 'x' person has one.
 This all smells of money with multiple galleries; it is the fast art
 equivalent of a fast food franchise.
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

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While future generations and the test of time will  have to decide if Mr. Lik’s 
work is indeed valuable art, the fact that it sells for big prices now is not a 
determining factor in measuring its worth. The world’s greatest art sells for 
astronomical sums, in part due to good marketing by auction houses and 
galleries. It’s all about deriving as much benefit as possible. Lik is entitled 
to whatever he gets, and those who buy his photos do so willingly. 

Lik is of course an obnoxious boor and a severe egotist. (They say Mozart was 
as well.) But that should never be a factor in evaluating his work. 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:57 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 
 Larry Colen wrote:
 
 It's not so much that people offer him that sort of money for his
 photos, but that they are told that the photos are a good investment,
 when in reality, they are nearly guaranteed to lose money:
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for-
 success-sell-prints-print-money.html
 
 Here is another interesting article:
 http://scottreither.com/blogwp/2012/06/11/peter-lik-gallery-
 photographer-my-story/
 
 It's the world of the bizarre, and I can't help feeling that most of those
 paying extreme amounts of money for prints (one off or limited edition),
 must be getting them to offset tax in some way.
 
 I can look on these images a very different way. I'm not in any way
 connected with the industry and my photographic interest is as a hobby only,
 and I have no desire to it ever becoming more than it is. I very much enjoy
 looking at local galleries and occasionally I'll see something I think that
 I will have a go at shooting my own version of.
 
 However, when I see prints selling at these sums, I think the more expensive
 they are moves them further away from art and photography all the time. They
 become financial instruments, or items bought because 'x' person has one.
 This all smells of money with multiple galleries; it is the fast art
 equivalent of a fast food franchise.
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[John]

Well, FWIW, my snark was aimed at Lik.

While he is indeed a competent photographer, his style is not exactly to
my taste, and his self promotion occasionally gets on my nerves.

I also think the value of his images does not justify the price of his
prints. I know others disagree, but that's fine with me. It's my opinion
 I'm the only one who has to deal with the consequences.

That said, if someone were to offer me an ungodly amount of money for
one of my images, I'd take the money and run ... in a New York minute.

What I hope I would *NOT* do is break my arm trying to pat myself on the
back pretending that just because someone was willing to spend a lot of
money for my work it makes me superior to everyone else.


On 6/27/2015 12:03 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the
PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than
most of the other landscape photos.


The difference is he is a well known name if photographic circles and as
far as I know none on the PDML'ers are.


I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money
by selling his photos as an artwork investment.


So I assume if someone were to offer you an ungodly amount for one of
your images you'd refuse !



Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
Subject: Re: Pentax spotted





paul stenquist wrote:

Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love
seeing photographers achieve financial success by producing something
people want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a
buck, but I consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money,
but he does it with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been
jealous of those who earn more than I do. More power to them.



In case it wasn't obvious the snark in my comment was not directed at
Mr. Lik. My first exposure to him was when I was staying with a friend
and there was some show about him on TV. My reaction to what he said
and his presentation was that he was on overly dramatic pompous
buffoon. I was far more impressed by the videography in that episode
than the photos that he took.

My impression of his work photographically is that he is indeed a
competent photographer.  However, if one of his shots with the 645Z
were to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would
stand out as any better than most of the other landscape photos.

I do recognize that what I objected to on the TV show could well have
more to do with the medium than him, and I do not object to any artist
making an honest living with their work.

I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money
by selling his photos as an artwork investment.  In a situation
somewhat like the gels from the Disney animated movies, in reality the
supply far exceeds the demand on the market, so when people try to
recoup their investment in his art, they find that the would end up
losing money in the process.

As was pointed out, Kinkade would probably be a more apt comparison.
However, I contend that selling investments that lose money can be
equivalent to selling advice that is wrong, and in that regard Lik and
Rockwell are cut from the same cloth.



Paul

On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote:

A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has
a great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.

However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who
don't make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard
drive storage we use.


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Re: Pentax spotted

[Christine Aguila]

Some really interesting things on the site:  1) yes, there was a medium format 
Pentax, 2) Rick Wormer should check it out because he loves to shoot fields of 
blue bells, and there is a very nice shot of blue bells in the video, 3) the 
gallery of stills shows photographs printed large on canvas  and how they might 
work hanging on the wall in different types of interior rooms—and his shot of 
the blue bells looks really nice in that dining room.

Cheers, Christine







 On Jun 25, 2015, at 3:59 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective.
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik 
 and have sworn off.
 
 J 
 
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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM
 Subject: Pentax spotted
 
 Looks like a 645 digital in the video?
 
 http://www.europe.lik.com/
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[Ken Waller]

I especially enjoyed seeing his images mounted, framed and hung on clients 
walls.


I generally ask people that have purchased my images to let me see the final 
result - mounted, matted  framed and where they've hung the images.


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- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com

Subject: Re: Pentax spotted


Some really interesting things on the site:  1) yes, there was a medium 
format Pentax, 2) Rick Wormer should check it out because he loves to 
shoot fields of blue bells, and there is a very nice shot of blue bells in 
the video, 3) the gallery of stills shows photographs printed large on 
canvas  and how they might work hanging on the wall in different types of 
interior rooms—and his shot of the blue bells looks really nice in that 
dining room.


Cheers, Christine







On Jun 25, 2015, at 3:59 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
wrote:


Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective.



On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:

Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR 
Lik and have sworn off.


J

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From: Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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Subject: Pentax spotted

Looks like a 645 digital in the video?

http://www.europe.lik.com/

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Re: Pentax spotted

[Ken Waller]

I agree Paul.

I remember a John Shaw seminar where he was asked 'What's the best way to 
sell images?


He responded by advising the audience to become writers and use their images 
in the article/books.



What I've seen over the years, especially since the wide spread use of 
digital capture, is that there are so many really good/great images out 
there that good marketing will set the difference between what sells and 
what doesn't.



Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: Pentax spotted


Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
photographers achieve financial success by producing something people 
want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I 
consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it 
with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who 
earn more than I do. More power to them.


Paul

On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote:
A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a 
great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.


However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't 
make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive 
storage we use.





Paul via phone


On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:



John wrote:
He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of 
the

645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
actually used some of the equipment he reviews.

I was just about to phrase it as:

Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and 
artistically as Mr. Rockwell.


But, yeah.


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Re: Pentax spotted

[P.J. Alling]

I donno, I'm sure Kennyboy finds they make fine paperweights and door 
stops.


On 6/25/2015 6:09 PM, John wrote:

He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
actually used some of the equipment he reviews.

On 6/25/2015 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR 
Lik and have sworn off.


J

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From: Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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Subject: Pentax spotted

Looks like a 645 digital in the video?

http://www.europe.lik.com/






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Re: Pentax spotted

[P.J. Alling]

I resent that remark, the price of Hard Drives has fallen considerably 
in the last few years...


On 6/25/2015 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote:
A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a 
great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.


However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who 
don't make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard 
drive storage we use.





Paul via phone


On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:



John wrote:
He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of 
the

645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
actually used some of the equipment he reviews.

I was just about to phrase it as:

Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and 
artistically as Mr. Rockwell.


But, yeah.


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Re: Pentax spotted

[Jack Davis]

Much prefer the vivid BW.

J

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 26, 2015, at 12:39 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'd be a Hypocrite, if I didn't admit to not overly processing to yield 
 dramatic Black and White images.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20butisitart.html
 
 and before conversion
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20becauseannasked.html
 
 but you've got to know what you're working for.  No one was ever really 
 supposed to see the second image.
 
 
 
 
 On 6/25/2015 8:29 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
 I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.
 
 So you'd like his work if it was B+W ?
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Pentax spotted
 
 
 I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.
 
 On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
 I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced.
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, 
 but in a different way, just sayin'.
 
 On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote:
 Looks like a 645 digital in the video?
 
 http://www.europe.lik.com/
 
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[P.J. Alling]

I'd be a Hypocrite, if I didn't admit to not overly processing to yield 
dramatic Black and White images.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20butisitart.html

and before conversion

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20becauseannasked.html

but you've got to know what you're working for.  No one was ever really 
supposed to see the second image.





On 6/25/2015 8:29 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.


So you'd like his work if it was B+W ?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: P.J. Alling 
webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Pentax spotted



I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.

On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain 
replaced.



On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling 
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more 
bizarre, but in a different way, just sayin'.


On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote:

Looks like a 645 digital in the video?

http://www.europe.lik.com/






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Re: Pentax spotted

[Larry Colen]

paul stenquist wrote:

Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. 
What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider 
him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with 
intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn more 
than I do. More power to them.



In case it wasn't obvious the snark in my comment was not directed at 
Mr. Lik. My first exposure to him was when I was staying with a friend 
and there was some show about him on TV. My reaction to what he said and 
his presentation was that he was on overly dramatic pompous buffoon. I 
was far more impressed by the videography in that episode than the 
photos that he took.


My impression of his work photographically is that he is indeed a 
competent photographer.  However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were 
to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out 
as any better than most of the other landscape photos.


I do recognize that what I objected to on the TV show could well have 
more to do with the medium than him, and I do not object to any artist 
making an honest living with their work.


I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by 
selling his photos as an artwork investment.  In a situation somewhat 
like the gels from the Disney animated movies, in reality the supply far 
exceeds the demand on the market, so when people try to recoup their 
investment in his art, they find that the would end up losing money in 
the process.


As was pointed out, Kinkade would probably be a more apt comparison. 
However, I contend that selling investments that lose money can be 
equivalent to selling advice that is wrong, and in that regard Lik and 
Rockwell are cut from the same cloth.




Paul

On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote:

A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal 
of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.

However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make 
enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use.


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Re: Pentax spotted

[paul stenquist]

if Lik's message sells photo, then it’s a good one. I sometimes hustle photos 
when I shoot cars for publications. The owners will be much more likely to buy 
if I praise their car and tell them I’m going to make a print for myself. 
“Would you like one as well?” On a $1200 shoot for Mopar Action, I usually sell 
$2000 worth of photos. 

I think there are perhaps two PDML members who are as skillful as Lik. I won’t 
name them, but I will say that I’m certainly not one of them. I know when I’m 
outclassed. He’s a damn good photographer, and if he can sell his work, more 
power to him. I don’t think he should say that it’s a good investment, but it’s 
okay to say that it might be a good investment. I haven’t seen his pitch, so I 
don’t know.

If you’re a photo hobbyist, you don’t have to worry about salesmanship, but if 
you intend to earn a living at photography, you have to be a businessman, and 
given how hard it is to sell photos, you better have a real good story.  I earn 
a very good living selling communications, although the vast majority of it is 
copy, not photography. But it still requires working the beat and salesmanship. 

Paul
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
 photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. 
 What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider 
 him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with 
 intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn 
 more than I do. More power to them. 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great 
 deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.
 
 However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make 
 enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we 
 use.
 
 
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:
 
 
 
 John wrote:
 He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.
 
 It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
 actually used some of the equipment he reviews.
 I was just about to phrase it as:
 
 Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically 
 as Mr. Rockwell.
 
 But, yeah.
 
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[Ken Waller]

However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the PDML 
annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than most of 
the other landscape photos.


The difference is he is a well known name if photographic circles and as far 
as I know none on the PDML'ers are.


I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by 
selling his photos as an artwork investment.


So I assume if someone were to offer you an ungodly amount for one of your 
images you'd refuse !




Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: Pentax spotted





paul stenquist wrote:
Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
photographers achieve financial success by producing something people 
want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but 
I consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does 
it with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those 
who earn more than I do. More power to them.



In case it wasn't obvious the snark in my comment was not directed at Mr. 
Lik. My first exposure to him was when I was staying with a friend and 
there was some show about him on TV. My reaction to what he said and his 
presentation was that he was on overly dramatic pompous buffoon. I was far 
more impressed by the videography in that episode than the photos that he 
took.


My impression of his work photographically is that he is indeed a 
competent photographer.  However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were 
to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as 
any better than most of the other landscape photos.


I do recognize that what I objected to on the TV show could well have more 
to do with the medium than him, and I do not object to any artist making 
an honest living with their work.


I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by 
selling his photos as an artwork investment.  In a situation somewhat like 
the gels from the Disney animated movies, in reality the supply far 
exceeds the demand on the market, so when people try to recoup their 
investment in his art, they find that the would end up losing money in 
the process.


As was pointed out, Kinkade would probably be a more apt comparison. 
However, I contend that selling investments that lose money can be 
equivalent to selling advice that is wrong, and in that regard Lik and 
Rockwell are cut from the same cloth.




Paul

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Paul Stenquist wrote:
A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a 
great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.
However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't 
make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[paul stenquist]

Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective.


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 Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and 
 have sworn off.
 
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 Looks like a 645 digital in the video?
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

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I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced.


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 With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, but 
 in a different way, just sayin'.
 
 On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote:
 Looks like a 645 digital in the video?
 
 http://www.europe.lik.com/
 
 
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[Jack Davis]

I'm a bit surprised, Paul, but as you
wrote, it is subjective.
J

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 Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective.
 
 
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 Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik 
 and have sworn off.
 
 J 
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[P.J. Alling]

I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.

On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced.



On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, but 
in a different way, just sayin'.

On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote:

Looks like a 645 digital in the video?

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Re: Pentax spotted

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You may not like him or his marketing but his photography speaks for itself.

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Subject: Re: Pentax spotted


Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik 
and have sworn off.


J

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Re: Pentax spotted

[Gonz]

Oh yeah, I dont care for the overpriced and overhyped stuff.  Just
care about the use of the medium format Pentax shown there.

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 Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and 
 have sworn off.

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Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and 
have sworn off.

J 

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Re: Pentax spotted

[Gonz]

Funny cuz I thought the first posting didnt make it, remembering that
in the past the discussion list needed text only and my email is not
by default.


On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh yeah, I dont care for the overpriced and overhyped stuff.  Just
 care about the use of the medium format Pentax shown there.

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 Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik 
 and have sworn off.

 J

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[P.J. Alling]

With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more 
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Looks like a 645 digital in the video?

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Re: Pentax spotted

[Jack Davis]

Well put, Larry!

J

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 John wrote:
 He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.
 
 It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
 actually used some of the equipment he reviews.
 
 I was just about to phrase it as:
 
 Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as 
 Mr. Rockwell.
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

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It's not for purists perhaps, but it's colorful, well composed and a unique 
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intellectually compulsory to ridicule him, but he's quite the technician and 
damn gods at what he does.

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 On Jun 25, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I'm a bit surprised, Paul, but as you
 wrote, it is subjective.
 J
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:59 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective.
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik 
 and have sworn off.
 
 J 
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[Paul Stenquist]

A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal 
of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.

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 On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 
 
 John wrote:
 He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.
 
 It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
 actually used some of the equipment he reviews.
 
 I was just about to phrase it as:
 
 Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as 
 Mr. Rockwell.
 
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 04:18 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik
 and have sworn off.


How dare you sir!  He's one of our National Living Treasures!!

/satire


Cheers

Brian

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 J 
 
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[John]

He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
actually used some of the equipment he reviews.

On 6/25/2015 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik and 
have sworn off.

J

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John wrote:

He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
actually used some of the equipment he reviews.


I was just about to phrase it as:

Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and 
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Probably due to your living upside down too long. G
J



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 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 04:18 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik
 and have sworn off.
 
 
 How dare you sir!  He's one of our National Living Treasures!!
 
 /satire
 
 
 Cheers
 
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 J 
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[Paul Stenquist]

He's like Kinkade in that he's a good businessman, but Kinkade's work was 
sophomoric and derivative, while Lik's is somewhat unique and original. Kinkade 
is boring; Lik projects energy.

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 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 
 Larry Colen wrote:
 
 John wrote:
 He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.
 
 It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
 actually used some of the equipment he reviews.
 
 I was just about to phrase it as:
 
 Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and 
 artistically as Mr. Rockwell.
 
 I disagree. I think he's more of a Thomas Kinkade than a Kenny
 Rockwell.
 
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[Larry Colen]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal 
of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.


However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't 
make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive 
storage we use.





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John wrote:

He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
actually used some of the equipment he reviews.

I was just about to phrase it as:

Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically as 
Mr. Rockwell.

But, yeah.


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Re: Pentax spotted

[paul stenquist]

Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. 
What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider 
him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with 
intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn more 
than I do. More power to them. 

Paul
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great 
 deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.
 
 However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make 
 enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use.
 
 
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:
 
 
 
 John wrote:
 He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.
 
 It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
 actually used some of the equipment he reviews.
 I was just about to phrase it as:
 
 Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically 
 as Mr. Rockwell.
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[Mark Roberts]

Larry Colen wrote:

John wrote:
 He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

 It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
 actually used some of the equipment he reviews.

I was just about to phrase it as:

Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and 
artistically as Mr. Rockwell.

I disagree. I think he's more of a Thomas Kinkade than a Kenny
Rockwell.
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

[Ken Waller]

I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.


So you'd like his work if it was B+W ?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Pentax spotted



I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.

On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced.


On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
wrote:


With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more 
bizarre, but in a different way, just sayin'.


On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote:

Looks like a 645 digital in the video?

http://www.europe.lik.com/



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Re: Pentax spotted on the screen redux

[Christian]

My favorite part (besides Rebecca in various stages of undress) is when Antonio is 
using his 645N, takes a picture, runs over to his Mac and umm, plugs the camera in and 
DOWNLOADS the picture and prints it! 

I'd recommend the movie to anyone who likes weird plot twists, lots of sex and Pentax 
cameras (there's a few Canons too).

Christian

-Original Message-
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jun 24, 2004 6:25 PM
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pentax spotted on the screen redux


My TiVo box decided to record Femme Fatale.
As there wasn't much else on, and it had a decent
cast, I decided to give it a try.

At one point, Antoni Banderas' character is trying
to get a photograph of Rebecca Romijn-Stamos' character,
using a PZ-1p and an FA* 80-200/2.8!

RE: Pentax spotted on the screen redux

[frank theriault]

And someone said no one bought that lens!  Hah!!  vbg
-frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer



From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pentax List)
Subject: Pentax spotted on the screen redux
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:25:46 -0400 (EDT)
My TiVo box decided to record Femme Fatale.
As there wasn't much else on, and it had a decent
cast, I decided to give it a try.
At one point, Antoni Banderas' character is trying
to get a photograph of Rebecca Romijn-Stamos' character,
using a PZ-1p and an FA* 80-200/2.8!
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Re: Pentax spotted on the screen redux

[Bob W]

Hi,

 My TiVo box decided to record Femme Fatale.
 As there wasn't much else on, and it had a decent
 cast, I decided to give it a try.

 At one point, Antoni Banderas' character is trying
 to get a photograph of Rebecca Romijn-Stamos' character,
 using a PZ-1p and an FA* 80-200/2.8!

On British TV last week there was a showing of Nicolas Roeg's
Performance with James Fox and Mick Jagger.
http://www.phinnweb.com/roeg/films/performance/images.html

I noticed that in one scene - where the Fox character is in a pub with
his gangster boss and various henchmen - that someone is taking a lot
of photos with a Spotmatic of some sort.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

RE: Pentax spotted

[Jens Bladt]

Intersting. This is one big lens. I believe, I once read that this lens
(range) was designed especially for baseball and sold at the price of a very
nice car?

Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


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Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Pentax spotted



Dunno about pin sharp, but I've had satisfactory results from just that
setup (PZ-1p, 250-600, monopod).  Not up to my chest in water, mind you.

 I wonder if pin sharp result are possible with setup like this. Last time
I
 tried, my Z-1p was hopeless with 300/4.5+2X due to mirror/shutter
vibration
 even though the shutter was 1/250s on tripod.  :-(

 Regards,
 Alan Chan
 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan

 Who said Pentaxes weren't tough?  The picture shows a Z1p with what I
 think is a 250 - 600 attached being used armpit deep in water.  I saw
 the poster in an Australian Geographic shop.
 
 http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/whatson/show.asp?ID=561442

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RE: Pentax spotted

[Alan Chan]

I think it would be a wonder safari lens, but I wonder if any serious 
shooters actually bought one for the purpose. To be a little OT, the F* has 
a double deck hood which is a lot deeper than the FA*.

Regards,
Alan Chan
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Intersting. This is one big lens. I believe, I once read that this lens
(range) was designed especially for baseball and sold at the price of a 
very
nice car?
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RE: Pentax spotted

[Frits Wüthrich]

Well, don't forget this combination is water damped in this case :-)

On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 02:27, Alan Chan wrote:
 I wonder if pin sharp result are possible with setup like this. Last time I 
 tried, my Z-1p was hopeless with 300/4.5+2X due to mirror/shutter vibration 
 even though the shutter was 1/250s on tripod.  :-(
 
 Regards,
 Alan Chan
 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
 
 Who said Pentaxes weren't tough?  The picture shows a Z1p with what I
 think is a 250 - 600 attached being used armpit deep in water.  I saw
 the poster in an Australian Geographic shop.
 
 http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/whatson/show.asp?ID=561442
 
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RE: Pentax spotted

[Alan Chan]

One slip and it will be underwater camera!! g

Regards,
Alan Chan
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RE: Pentax spotted

[Alan Chan]

I wonder if pin sharp result are possible with setup like this. Last time I 
tried, my Z-1p was hopeless with 300/4.5+2X due to mirror/shutter vibration 
even though the shutter was 1/250s on tripod.  :-(

Regards,
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Who said Pentaxes weren't tough?  The picture shows a Z1p with what I
think is a 250 - 600 attached being used armpit deep in water.  I saw
the poster in an Australian Geographic shop.
http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/whatson/show.asp?ID=561442
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