Re: Printing service recommendations sought

2023-01-10 Thread Ken Waller
Bay photo. Ken Waller -Original Message- From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Jan 10, 2023 9:34 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Printing service recommendations sought I have several photos on the wall that have darkened over the years, and lost their charm. As I recall I

Re: Printing service recommendations sought

2023-01-10 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 6:33 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > I have several photos on the wall that have darkened over the years, and lost > their charm. As I recall I used Slideprinter/Denver Digital imaging for them. > > I have more photos I’d like to get printed, and a few old ones re-printed.

Re: Printing service recommendations sought

2023-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hi Rick, The only printing I've had done for me has been canvas wrap prints, which I've had printed by Artistic Photo Canvas in Florida. They're still around, and I imagine still do a lovely job. I'd recommend them if you want canvas wraps. Everything else I've done in prints are printed

Re: Printing service recommendations sought

2023-01-10 Thread ann sanfedele
Are you talking about printing from chromes , negatives or digital files?   What size? If you have jpg files  and 8 1/2" x 11 print would work  ,  I'll make some for you at cost. (paper and shipping)  I have some good Ultra premiun glossy Epson paper and a good Epson r220.. I'm like the

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread John
I'm pretty sure the National Geographic photographic "how to" book on taking photos with a cell phone is still in print. https://www.amazon.com/Camera-Phone-Book-Display-Images/dp/1426200900 On 9/7/2019 20:14:22, P. J. Alling wrote: Maybe you should disregard my suggestion.  They don't seem to

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread John
On 9/5/2019 12:02:39, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408.431.4601 cell On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Eric Weir wrote: What determines the size of the image I get with my camera, i.e., my phone? Is it always the same? Is iso a factor? The number of pixels in

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread John
On 9/5/2019 11:51:44, Eric Weir wrote: On Sep 4, 2019, at 10:32 PM, John wrote: Generally, "72 dpi" is screen resolution. You don't want to print at "72 dpi" because it will look like crap. At the 240ppi Godfrey mentioned 4032 x 2268 pixels gives you 16.8 x 9.45 inches. To get a 20" wide

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Maybe you should disregard my suggestion.  They don't seem to have any reviews of cell phone cameras.   Since i don't buy my cell phone based on it's built in camera I never noticed before. On 9/7/2019 6:48 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Sep 7, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Sep 6, 2019,

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread Larry Colen
> On Sep 7, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > >> >> There are times when a lack of sharpness can negatively impact a photo, >> however if that is because the print is too big, then just display the photo >> someplace that people can’t leave nose prints on it from looking at it that >>

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 7, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > >> >> On Sep 6, 2019, at 11:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >> >> I'll just jump in here and confuse things a bit. You'll always get the same >> number of pixels from any given camera, but the quality of the pixels count >> too. Higher ISO will

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 7, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On the other hand, you might want to not worry overmuch about the theory of > things. Knarf had an interesting quote in his signature about sharpness. > > Nine years ago I went to burning man for my 50th birthday. I shot about > eight

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 11:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > I'll just jump in here and confuse things a bit. You'll always get the same > number of pixels from any given camera, but the quality of the pixels count > too. Higher ISO will have an effect. > > Usually all things being equal higher

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 7:04 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> >>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Eric Weir wrote: >>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good. I

Re: Printing

2019-09-07 Thread Larry Colen
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 8:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > I'll just jump in here and confuse things a bit. You'll always get the same > number of pixels from any given camera, but the quality of the pixels count > too. Higher ISO will have an effect. > > Usually all things being equal higher

Re: Printing

2019-09-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I'll just jump in here and confuse things a bit.  You'll always get the same number of pixels from any given camera, but the quality of the pixels count too.  Higher ISO will have an effect. Usually all things being equal higher noise which will degrade image quality in any give size print. 

Re: Printing

2019-09-06 Thread Larry Colen
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > >> On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Eric Weir wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: >>> >>> Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good. I have traditionally >>> gotten my prints done at Costco. >> >>

Re: Printing

2019-09-06 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > >> >> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: >> >> Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good. I have traditionally >> gotten my prints done at Costco. > > Thanks to Larry and Ken for comments/suggestions regarding

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 1:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > ... > > Thanks again, Godfrey. My pleasure. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Eric Weir wrote: >>> >>> What determines the size of the image I get with my camera, i.e., my phone? >>> Is it always the same? Is iso a factor? >> >> The number of pixels in a full frame capture will

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:01 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> The camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at >> 25. Is what I should expect? Will I ever be able to get good large prints >> with this camera? > >

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 11:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> So now two questions: (1) My image is 72 dpi/ppi, far short of 240 dpi/ppi. >> What can I do with that, i.e., what’s the largest print I could get? (2) The >> camera was my phone,

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> What determines the size of the image I get with my camera, i.e., my phone? >> Is it always the same? Is iso a factor? > > The number of pixels in a full frame capture will always be the same. ... ISO will affect how much noise is apparent

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Godfrey -- Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408.431.4601 cell > On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > What determines the size of the image I get with my camera, i.e., my phone? > Is it always the same? Is iso a factor? The number of pixels in a full frame capture

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > The camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at > 25. Is what I should expect? Will I ever be able to get good large prints > with this camera? An iPhone 6s image at ISO 25, presuming a good exposure with the

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > So now two questions: (1) My image is 72 dpi/ppi, far short of 240 dpi/ppi. > What can I do with that, i.e., what’s the largest print I could get? (2) The > camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72 dpi/ppi result was with iso at 25. > Is what

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 11:50 AM, John wrote: > > On 9/5/2019 11:08:33, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> So now two questions: (1) My image is 72 dpi/ppi, far short of 240 dpi/ppi. >> What can I do with that, i.e., what’s the largest print I could get? (2) The >> camera was my phone, an iPhone 6s. The 72

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 10:32 PM, John wrote: > > Generally, "72 dpi" is screen resolution. You don't want to print at "72 dpi" > because it will look like crap. > > At the 240ppi Godfrey mentioned 4032 x 2268 pixels gives you 16.8 x 9.45 > inches. > > To get a 20" wide print, 4032 pixels is

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread John
On 9/5/2019 11:08:33, Eric Weir wrote: On Sep 4, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Can’t give you much advice on print services since I always do my own prints. But be aware that that pixel count on the long edge nets a max print area length of about 17” @ 240ppi which is as low as

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 1:09 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote: > > Check prices, there may not be any reason other than convenience to use > Flickr rather than Bay directly. Download the bay roes software and process > your photos specifically for printing. Thanks again, Larry. I did a superficial

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread John
When I was running the mini-lab, about the lowest I could go & still give the customer an acceptable print was 150 ppi/dpi. And the customer's just didn't want to hear it. "But it looks great on my phone/camera/fakebook/AOL ... Why can't you print it so it looks like that?" On 9/4/2019

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Can’t give you much advice on print services since I always do my own prints. > But be aware that that pixel count on the long edge nets a max print area > length of about 17” @ 240ppi which is as low as I’d want to go for best >

Re: Printing

2019-09-05 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > > I haven't posted to the group in several years, but I've been following. On > this topic, maybe I have some information to offer. I recently had reason to > try the "Fracture" service that most of you (in North America, at least) have

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread lrc
Check prices, there may not be any reason other than convenience to use Flickr rather than Bay directly. Download the bay roes software and process your photos specifically for printing. On September 4, 2019 4:11:06 PM PDT, Eric Weir wrote: > >> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Doug Franklin
I haven't posted to the group in several years, but I've been following. On this topic, maybe I have some information to offer. I recently had reason to try the "Fracture" service that most of you (in North America, at least) have probably already seen advertised (https://fractureme.com). I

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread John
Generally, "72 dpi" is screen resolution. You don't want to print at "72 dpi" because it will look like crap. At the 240ppi Godfrey mentioned 4032 x 2268 pixels gives you 16.8 x 9.45 inches. To get a 20" wide print, 4032 pixels is going to give you around "201 ppi", suggesting a crop to 2016

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > Thanks, Godfrey. Guess I’ll adjust the size of the test print downward. > > WIAI, I take it “ppi" is "pixels per inch.” Data on this image as displayed > in Dropbox indicates 72 “dots per inch.” is that the same as "pixels per > inch”?

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Can’t give you much advice on print services since I always do my own prints. > But be aware that that pixel count on the long edge nets a max print area > length of about 17” @ 240ppi which is as low as I’d want to go for best >

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: > > Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good. I have traditionally > gotten my prints done at Costco. Thanks to Larry and Ken for comments/suggestions regarding printing services. If Flickr uses Bay I think I’ll give them a

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Can’t give you much advice on print services since I always do my own prints. But be aware that that pixel count on the long edge nets a max print area length of about 17” @ 240ppi which is as low as I’d want to go for best detail on a landscape shot like that. G > > I have never printed a

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Ken Waller
Eric, as I’ve posted here before, I’ve had very good results with Bay Photo. They’ve done everything from 4 X 6 inch up to 2 X 3 feet prints on paper, canvas and metal for me and I have nothing but good things to say about them. They will offer discounts (usually 20% off) from time to time when

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Costco. Damn autocorrect. Paul > On Sep 4, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Cost is good if you embed the icc profile for your store > > Paul > >> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: >> >> Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good. I have traditionally

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Cost is good if you embed the icc profile for your store Paul > On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: > > Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good. I have traditionally > gotten my prints done at Costco. > >> On September 4, 2019 10:48:48 AM PDT, Eric Weir wrote: >>

Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread lrc
Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good. I have traditionally gotten my prints done at Costco. On September 4, 2019 10:48:48 AM PDT, Eric Weir wrote: > >I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With >this image, just as a test:

Re: Printing question

2018-05-05 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 5 May 2018, at 20:47, Larry Colen wrote: > > >> On May 5, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Mark C wrote: >> >> Relative colorimetirc maps out of gamut colors to the nearest in gamut color >> in the desintation color space. Perceptual maps out of gamut colors

Re: Printing question

2018-05-05 Thread Larry Colen
> On May 5, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Mark C wrote: > > Relative colorimetirc maps out of gamut colors to the nearest in gamut color > in the desintation color space. Perceptual maps out of gamut colors into the > destination color space and also shifts other colors to

Re: Printing question

2018-05-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for the clear explanation, Mark! I tried printing the same file twice in Relative Colorimetric. Once with Black Point Compensation on and once with it off. Hard to see a difference, but with it turned on the print seemed to pick up a bit more contrast. I’m leaving it on for now. Paul >

Re: Printing question

2018-05-05 Thread Mark C
Relative colorimetirc maps out of gamut colors to the nearest in gamut color in the desintation color space. Perceptual maps out of gamut colors into the destination color space and also shifts other colors to preserve the relative differences between them. Relative Colorimetiric could result

Re: Printing question

2018-05-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
I use Relative Colorimetric without black point compensation. Haven’t really thought about it for years. My prints are nice. I don’t know if they could be better. I print on Epson Premium Luster or Exhibition Fiber and use the ICC profiles. Perhaps I should experiment with other settings? Paul

Re: Printing question

2018-05-05 Thread Mark C
Paul Sorenson wrote: Kind of looking for a consensus...when printing using ICC profiles what is your preferred rendering intent? Perceptual or relative colorimetric? Does your choice vary by paper surface? -p I start with perceptual with black point compensation enabled. I don't change

Re: Printing on glass -- Fracture

2017-09-29 Thread John
You can still get Duratrans or Endura Transparancy prints. A 16x20 runs about $50 plus whatever back-light system you choose. On 9/29/2017 10:34, P. J. Alling wrote: I haven't read the claims in the posts you linked yet, but, this really puts me in mind of, is when we could print on clear

Re: Printing on glass -- Fracture

2017-09-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
in the case of my painting on glass, the painting was done on the back side of the glass. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > John, > > If I understood you correctly, you are assuming the

Re: Printing on glass -- Fracture

2017-09-29 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 02:12:41PM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > John, > > If I understood you correctly, you are assuming the photo is printed on the > front surface of the glass. My understanding is that it is printed on the > back surface of the glass. So, in principle, you have the same

Re: Printing on glass -- Fracture

2017-09-29 Thread Igor PDML-StR
John, If I understood you correctly, you are assuming the photo is printed on the front surface of the glass. My understanding is that it is printed on the back surface of the glass. So, in principle, you have the same number of surfaces to reflect from, as in case of a photo behind the

Re: Printing on glass -- Fracture

2017-09-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have never had a photo printed on glass, but someone did a painting of my airplane on glass, and it was a very effective presentation. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:34 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I

Re: Printing on glass -- Fracture

2017-09-29 Thread P. J. Alling
I haven't read the claims in the posts you linked yet, but, this really puts me in mind of, is when we could print on clear Cibachrome materials.  You display these prints back lighted and a well done print, with the proper subject matter, was like looking at a giant color slide on a giant

Re: Printing on glass -- Fracture

2017-09-28 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 01:14:34PM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > If we compare these prints directly on the glass surface to a print mounted > behind a glass, does the fact that the image is right on the glass surface > improve the reflection problem, make it worse, or does not affect it much?

Re: Printing problem _ I need you geniuses !

2015-12-22 Thread P.J. Alling
Does it allow a custom setting? Several of my past HP printers allowed custom setting with max dimension, of 44", one IIRC had a custom setting allowing an effectively unlimited length, though there was no provision for roll paper, but they hid that pretty thoroughly. I haven't used an Epson

Re: Printing problem _ I need you geniuses !

2015-12-22 Thread ann sanfedele
Thanks for input P. J. - Paul Sorensens helped - thought it was to do with Elements 10 but we eliminated that quickly.. the R220 does have a user defined section... but the way it is set up was confusing... once I discovered that I had to click on it in an area I would not have thought about

Re: Printing problem _ I need you geniuses !

2015-12-22 Thread ann sanfedele
thanks, Paul - I will :-) ann On 12/22/2015 12:56 AM, Paul wrote: Ann - I still have a copy of PSE10 on my machine. If you would e-mail me a copy of the full rez image file, I'll take a look at it in the morning. -p On 12/21/2015 10:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: So I accidentally got

Re: Printing problem _ I need you geniuses !

2015-12-22 Thread P.J. Alling
I just checked the Canon pixma ix6520 it allows a 91"x2 1/2" custom print. On 12/21/2015 11:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: So I accidentally got my R220 to print an 8 1/2" x 19" last night- but have not been able to replicate it. I'm printing from a file that measures just that.. (this one) at

Re: Printing problem _ I need you geniuses !

2015-12-21 Thread Paul
Ann - I still have a copy of PSE10 on my machine. If you would e-mail me a copy of the full rez image file, I'll take a look at it in the morning. -p On 12/21/2015 10:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: So I accidentally got my R220 to print an 8 1/2" x 19" last night- but have not been able to

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-03 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. One could always resort to film. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. One could always resort to film. I've spent lots of time in darkrooms. Shooting film does nothing to stop you wasting paper! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-03 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I've spent lots of time in darkrooms. Shooting film does nothing to stop you wasting paper! No, but it does deal with *some* of the pretense of digital being better/faster. Good printing in both digital and chemical work takes effort. (And I'm still waiting for a digital print that can stand up

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-03 Thread Jack Davis
Inkjet printing of scans would still require photo paper. ;-)   Jack - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Printing BW I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. One could

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-03 Thread Jack Davis
I'd rather not tote an 8x10 field camera in a wheel borrow, but I agree.   Jack - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Printing BW I've spent lots of time in darkrooms. Shooting

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/4/13, Mark C, discombobulated, unleashed: Paul and Bill and others are right to note that you have to disable printer management of the color and then let PS Elements manage it. Otherwise you could get double profiling - PS Elements outputs the print profiled to the paper and then the

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. One could always resort to film. I've spent lots of time in darkrooms. Shooting film does nothing to stop you wasting paper! Say what you will, I've never had any color management problems in a BW

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-03 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:27 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Say what you will, I've never had any color management problems in a BW darkroom. BW prints came out BW, not cyan or magenta. I most often printed on Ilford Multigrade IV RC, and for me it tended to have a greenish

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Derby Chang
Hi Jack Others have been giving you good advice. Don't guess, you need to calibrate a printer profile, or at least use one of the canned profiles. One other thing I've found, print and print often. My R1800 doesn't do too badly at BW, but leave it for a week or two, a few nozzles get

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Jack Davis
@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW When I do Black and white on the Epson v500 I have made a file that is in _saved in grayscale_... seems to me that problems with color cast I've had were a combination of the type of paper I was printing

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Jack Davis
I don't seem to have received it, Paul. PLEASE re-send it. Thanks!   Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW Jack - I sent you a long reply off list

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Derby. Am using the profile offered by Epson for there Ultra Premium Luster.   Jack - Original Message - From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 2:31 AM Subject: Re: Printing BW Hi Jack Others have

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Mark C
Paul and Bill and others are right to note that you have to disable printer management of the color and then let PS Elements manage it. Otherwise you could get double profiling - PS Elements outputs the print profiled to the paper and then the printer re-profiles that and things go wonky...

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Jack Davis
-m...@charter.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW Paul and Bill and others are right to note that you have to disable printer management of the color and then let PS Elements manage it. Otherwise you could get double

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good results are very difficult to achieve when the printer controls the color. Change your setup to Photoshop controls color and turn off all printer color control. You can find instructions for printing workflow management on the web. Paul On Apr 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Jack Davis

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Mark Roberts
If the R1800 doesn't have a dedicated BW mode (using only black inks), then at the very minimum you need to buy the hardware and software for making your own paper profiles to have any hope of good black and white results. Even then it's a very finicky business. I gave up and ended up buying an

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Jack Davis
...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW Good results are very difficult to achieve when the printer controls the color. Change your setup to Photoshop controls color and turn off all printer color control. You can

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 1/4/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: . I gave up and ended up buying an Epson R3000 with multiple black inks for my BW work and I believe that's really the way to go. I'd never go back to printing BW with a color inkset. Great - thanks a lot mate! Now I have to save up for one of

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Jack Davis
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW If the R1800 doesn't have a dedicated BW mode (using only black inks), then at the very minimum you need to buy the hardware and software for making your own paper profiles to have any hope

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah...problem solved.   Jack ;-) - Original Message - From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW On 1/4/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: . I gave up and ended up buying an Epson

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
about ready to give him a call. Thanks! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW Good results are very difficult to achieve when

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Bill
On 01/04/2013 3:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours. Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with meals, toilet and accompanying my

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote: Sometimes with BW, you just have to decide what colour cast is least objectionable. Wisdom. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks again, Paul.   Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW I used to be able to get decent BW prints with an Epson 1200, which doesn't have

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Jack Davis
Appreciated info, Bill. Thanks. I'll save your message.   Jack - Original Message - From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW On 01/04/2013 3:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote:           I'm

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Ann Sanfedele
-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Printing BW I used to be able to get decent BW prints with an Epson 1200, which doesn't have multiple blacks. It's much easier with one of the newer multi-black printers like the 3000 or the 2880, but you should

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Brian Walters
Subject: Re: Printing BW I used to be able to get decent BW prints with an Epson 1200, which doesn't have multiple blacks. It's much easier with one of the newer multi-black printers like the 3000 or the 2880, but you should be able to get acceptable BW results with the 1800. You don't

Re: Printing BW

2013-04-01 Thread Paul Sorenson
Jack - I sent you a long reply off list. If you have any questions please let me know. -p On 4/1/2013 4:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours. Would

Re: printing

2012-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/9/12, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: Eventually we'll be able to project our shots through a 4K system onto a cinema-sized screen. 1080p is getting there, but not sufficiently better then our plain old LCD displays. But 4K digital is decently hi-rez. 8K is the new 4K. --

Re: printing

2012-09-24 Thread mike wilson
On 23/09/2012 21:40, Bob W wrote: showing slides, which were so much nicer than prints, and projected beautifully through their Leica projector onto their cinema-sized screen. _There's_ a lost art. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: printing

2012-09-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 4:54 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 23/09/2012 21:40, Bob W wrote: showing slides, which were so much nicer than prints, and projected beautifully through their Leica projector onto their cinema-sized screen. _There's_ a lost art. Eventually we'll

Re: printing

2012-09-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote: On 9/21/12 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: So I haven't been able to get out and actually do any photography for far too long. But today I sat down and did something I also haven't done in far too long: printing. Made a few prints for myself and one for the faculty art exhibit

Re: printing

2012-09-23 Thread Stan Halpin
It is amazing that you can get such large prints from the small HP printer shown on the right of your desk! But seriously, it is also always amazing to see the quality of your work as a photographer and printer. Even though it is a picture of the prints, displayed at typical internet

Re: printing

2012-09-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Stan Halpin wrote: It is amazing that you can get such large prints from the small HP printer shown on the right of your desk! I am the Doctor Who of printing! ;-) But seriously, it is also always amazing to see the quality of your work as a photographer and printer. Even though it is a

RE: printing

2012-09-23 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts [...] Thanks Stan. Sometimes I fear that printing is becoming a lost art. Most photo contests now want a medium size JPEG rather than a print. (The last one I entered that asked for people to send prints

Re: printing

2012-09-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: I've been a printing fool this week. I sold a lot of prints from my recent three-day shoot at the Mopar Nationals and have been working to fill the orders. I print from PhotoShop and can match my monitor, so I'm happy with the results. But I'm always up for trying

Re: printing

2012-09-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Speaking of printing -- as in the Annual as I recall you wanted all our images to be sent in with the SRGB profile ... I ask because of a firend who did a Blurb and was unhappy with the printing... Or was it that we should remove the profile because blurb printed using CMYK? great that

Re: printing

2012-09-21 Thread Doug Brewer
On 9/21/12 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: So I haven't been able to get out and actually do any photography for far too long. But today I sat down and did something I also haven't done in far too long: printing. Made a few prints for myself and one for the faculty art exhibit that's coming up

Re: printing

2012-09-21 Thread Stan Halpin
On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Speaking of printing . . .I got my calendar back to proof and the cover is great but some of the pages too light. However, mine is Black and white, too and in that regard the calendar looks super. most of what I have to fix are (big

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