RE: Fwd: [PEIRCE-L] RE: de Waal Seminar: Chapter 6, Philosophy of Science

2014-04-23 Thread Sungchul Ji
Hi, Speaking about measurement, my students and I at Rutgers have found something quite unusual during the past 6 years: There exists a 3-parameter mathematical equation that (042314-1) fits data measured from (i) atoms (blackbody radiation spectra), (ii) proteins (Gibbs free energy of

RE: Fwd: [PEIRCE-L] RE: de Waal Seminar: Chapter 6, Philosophy of Science

2014-04-23 Thread Michael DeLaurentis
Having quantitative aspects is one thing; quantized signs is quite another. Given Peirce's synechism, I don't think the latter would sit well. Of course, we don't really know how Peirce would have reacted to, assimilated quantum theory into his synechism. -Original Message- From:

Re: [PEIRCE-L] de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, Pragmatism

2014-04-23 Thread Benjamin Udell
Gary, list, I think you're off to a solid start! You wrote, My first question is, What can we think of this very broad claim as to the foundational character of the [pragmatic maxim] for all of science, philosophy, and thought generally? Does Kees perhaps go too far here?

[PEIRCE-L] Peirce's 1870 “Logic Of Relatives” • Comment 10.9

2014-04-23 Thread Jon Awbrey
Post : Peirce's 1870 “Logic Of Relatives” • Comment 10.9 http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2014/04/23/peirces-1870-logic-of-relatives-%E2%80%A2-comment-10-9/ Posted : April 23, 2014 at 9:30 am Author : Jon Awbrey Peircers, The use of the concepts of identity and teridentity is not to identify a

Re: [PEIRCE-L] request of guidance

2014-04-23 Thread Kirsti Määttänen
Jaime, Highly interesting mail links. Thank you very much! Please, do tell us more. Kirsti Jaime Nubiola [jnubi...@unav.es] kirjoitti: Dear Asim, Peirce's review at http://www.unav.es/gep/SecretSwedenborg.html is of a book of Henry James, Sr, the father of Henry James. Henry James Jr, and

Re: [PEIRCE-L] de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, Pragmatism

2014-04-23 Thread Gary Richmond
Ben, list, I agree with you, Ben, that 'foundational' is the wrong word here, and that Kees' claim is along the lines of what you wrote, namely, that the pragmatic maxim applies to all conceptions, so it's extremely sweeping. But is it exactly the pragmatic maxim we're talking about when we're

RE: [PEIRCE-L] de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, framework vs foundational?

2014-04-23 Thread Deely, John N.
Perhaps framework rather than foundational, as foundational lies behind, as it were, whereas semosis accompanies every step along the way? From: Gary Richmond [mailto:gary.richm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:50 To: Benjamin Udell Cc: Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] de Waal

Re: [PEIRCE-L] de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, framework vs foundational?

2014-04-23 Thread Gary Richmond
John, Ben, list, I very much like this notion of pragmatism being a 'framework' rather than a 'foundation'. It would as well seem to help resolve the issue mentioned at the end of my last post as to whether it might be important not to conflate the informal use of pragmatic ideas with the formal

Re: [PEIRCE-L] de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, Pragmatism

2014-04-23 Thread Benjamin Udell
Gary, list, You wrote, So, in a nutshell, my concern, expressed as a question, is: Shouldn't we avoid conflating the informal (logica utens) use of pragmatic/critical-commonsensical ideas with the PM itself? Yes, I agree. The pragmatic maxim reflects aspects of informal reasoning

Re: [PEIRCE-L] de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, Pragmatism

2014-04-23 Thread Gary Richmond
Ben, list, I am tending to agree with much that you wrote, Ben, but would like you to clarify a point or two if possible. You wrote: In practice, this _*logica utens*_ aspect occurs not only prior to formal logic but afterward, in the special sciences too, since such scientists tend not to be

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, Pragmatism

2014-04-23 Thread Gary Richmond
Kees, List, I want to, and as profusely as possible, apologize for repeatedly and erroneously stating that Kees places pragmatism in speculative grammar when he explicitly says, near the end of the chapter, that pragmatism is a strictly regulative principle in the normative science of logic, or,

RE: [PEIRCE-L] de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, framework vs foundational?

2014-04-23 Thread Deely, John N.
Accompaniment carries no overtone of fundamentality or necessity, no sense of without which not. Framework does. From: Stephen C. Rose [mailto:stever...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 13:51 To: Deely, John N. Cc: Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, framework

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: de Waal Seminar: Chapter 7, Pragmatism

2014-04-23 Thread Cornelis de Waal
No apologies needed. I have no copy of the book at hand so I was raking my brain wondering how I could have screwed up so badly. In my opinion too the PM clearly falls within speculative rhetoric. I'm glad that Ben found I had not, though running through the quotes I think that I should have

[PEIRCE-L] Peirce's 1870 “Logic Of Relatives” • Comment 10.10

2014-04-23 Thread Jon Awbrey
Post : Peirce's 1870 “Logic Of Relatives” • Comment 10.10 http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2014/04/24/peirces-1870-logic-of-relatives-%E2%80%A2-comment-10-10/ Posted : April 24, 2014 at 12:00 am Author : Jon Awbrey Peircers, The last of the three examples involving the composition of triadic