Jeffrey Downard
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy
Northern Arizona University
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From: Edwina Taborsky
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Clark - OK - I'll put in a long comm
who think about axioms as fundamental rules that are beyond doubt.
--Jeff
Jeffrey Downard
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy
Northern Arizona University
(o) 928 523-8354
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that
are beyond doubt.
--Jeff
Jeffrey Downard
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy
Northern Arizona University
(o) 928 523-8354
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that might be caused for people who think about axioms as fundamental rules that are beyond doubt.
--Jeff
Jeffrey Downard
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy
Northern Arizona University
(o) 928 523-8354
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Jon, list
The psychical law i.e., Mind, is primordial and 'matter is effete
mind' - but - this Mind is not human mind, but that basic natural
'primordial mind' which seeks or wills, so to speak, itself into
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John
Thursday, 30 March 2017 9:23 PM
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> John - thanks for the quotation.
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> I fully agree. The Peircean framework is
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John - thanks for the quotation.
I fully agree. The Peircean framework is irreducibly triadic. As he writes,
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John C., List:
[John Collier] Peirce uses “sign” in both ways, which can be
confusing.
Perhaps I missed them, but I am not aware of any passages where
Peirce used "sign" to mean a
Jon, List,
Thank you. So this was another semantic problem, this time with the term "would"!
30. März 2017 um 20:04 Uhr
Von: "Jon Alan Schmidt"
Helmut, List:
HR: Eg. he wrote, that the dynamical object is real, and that it also is the object as a final
Schmidt
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Edwina, List:
Just one (hopefully last) comment here.
ET: But a thing that bothers me about some of the focus of this
list
Helmut, List:
HR: Eg. he wrote, that the dynamical object is real, and that it also is
the object as a final study would show it to be.
I think that the key word here is *would*. The idea is that the real is
that which *would *come to be known by an infinite community after
indefinite
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>> I am not very keen on multiple universes, though I readily admit
>> different metaphysical categories. But I think any deep difference is just
>> talk.
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From: Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com>
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Edwina, List:
Just one (hopefully last) comment here.
ET: But a thing that bothe
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> *[John Collier] Peirce uses “s
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Edwina, List:
Just one (hopefully last) comment here.
ET: But a thing that bothers me about some of the focus of this list is its
iso
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John C., List:
[John Collier] Peirce uses “sign” in both ways, which can be confusing.
Perhaps I missed them, but I am not aware of any passages where Peirce used
"sign" to mean a "triad&qu
Clark, list - I think I wasn't clear in my post below. What I meant
to say is that Peirce himself did not use singular terms that meant
'only this' in his work. As John Collier points out - he used 'sign'
and 'representamen'; his use of the three categories were filled
with expansive
Edwina, List:
Just one (hopefully last) comment here.
ET: But a thing that bothers me about some of the focus of this list is
its isolation from reality; that is, it's all about words and definitions.
But Peirce wasn't focused on that.
Peirce was certainly not *only *focused on words and
Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com]
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Edwina, List:
It has never been my intention to insult you, and I have
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Edwina, List:
It has never been my intention to insult you, and I have never resorted to
name-calling as you routinely have. I have simply expressed my considered
opinion that your model of sign-action is significantly
*`when once it is written, every composition trundles about everywhere in
the same way, in the presence both of those who know about the subject and
of those who have nothing at all to do with it.. ~ *Phaedrus
*Few persons care to study logic, because everybody conceives himself to be
Edwina, List:
It has never been my intention to insult you, and I have never resorted to
name-calling as you routinely have. I have simply expressed my considered
opinion that your model of sign-action is significantly different from
Peirce's, and I have provided the reasons why I take that
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Jon - I will say this only once; I won't get into a debate with you.
1) I use Peirce's term of 'representamen' rather than 'sign' to
acknowledge the unique role in the triad; that mediative
function/action in
Helmut - the point to remember about Peircean semiosis is that it is
dynamic; it sets up an active process of informational transformation.
This is non-linear, so it is an error, I feel, to view Peircean
semiosis as a step-by-step action, i.e., a linear movement from
Object to
List,
Edwina, I think, that there are four kinds of dynamical objects, two of which do not change, one that may change, also due to the sign, and one that changes for sure with every sign that has it for dynamical object: Metaphysical laws and axioms (given they exist) do not change, events and
Dear list:
rather ironic that the ultimate, immutable aim- the one that should accord
with a free development of the agent's own esthetic quality- takes on the
form of a carrot, no?
Best,
Jerry R
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Claudio Guerri
wrote:
> Mein lieber
Mein lieber Helmut, List,
again answer between the lines with >>>
(this was taught to me by T.A.Sebeok just at the beginning of e-mails)
Helmut Raulien escribió el 27/03/2017 a las 13:14:
Claudio, List,
So it is a bit paradoxical: On one hand we should be aware, that we
are carrot-chasing
Claudio, List,
So it is a bit paradoxical: On one hand we should be aware, that we are carrot-chasing donkeys, on the other hand we should not abandon the carrot chasing projects, inquiry. And we must respect other donkeys who are chasing different carrots. And, for not thinking that there are
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