-Kerry sentiment there even too much for him to bear,
by the appearance of the rather well-aimed satire.)
HEADLINE: Kerry's New Stances No Shock to Fervent Supporters
By Michael Hirsch,
Special to Democratic Left
(Columbus, Ohio, Sept. 15, 2004) Seeking to winnow away more of the Bush
electoral base
Michael,Ulhas and Michael[See what happens with
some encouragement - soon I'll be overposting! I'll try to make this the
last.]1)Uhlas
writes:
Paul was trying to show how PPP numbers
overstate theeconomic growth in the developing countries. I am
notsure I understand how he has reached
Paul wrote:
[See what happens with some encouragement - soon
I'll be overposting!
Is there a limit on posting?
For India, from 1992 to 2001, the GNI increased by
64% when calculated by
the World Bank Atlas method (non-PPP).
I presume this comment is about India's GDP as a whole
and not
numbers. See below
for examples.]
2) Michael Perelman writes:
If we were go[ing] to try to make some sort of
quantitative measure of a human
development index, I think I [would] try to get a handle on how people at
the bottom
fared rather than looking at averages.
I couldn't agree more. One catch
SNAPSHOT
'Fahrenheit 9/11' fans welcome hero to hotbed
By Yvonne Abraham, Boston Globe Staff | July 27, 2004
The man of the hour was more than an hour late.
A group of veterans and soldiers' families waited for Michael Moore in a
North End park yesterday, chatting, eating pizza, checking
Date:Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:26:38 -0400
From:Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A critical look at Michael Moore
(clip)
Considering the fact that Gibson had plans at one point to bankroll
Fahrenheit 9/11, this does not seem so far-fetched. Moore's next
project will deal with the health
In some ways, Michael Moore's rise to fame and fortune is a classic
Horatio Alger story. Starting out as the son of a General Motors
assembly line worker who lived in blue-collar Flint, Michigan, Moore now
sits at the top of the mountain. With his face on the cover of Time
Magazine and ticket
Mother Jones magazine, a magazine
catering to Birkenstock-wearing, Sierra Club-donating, brie-eating
liberals.
hey, Louis, have you been channeling Dick Cheney? It sure sounds like him or someone
in the neo-con crowd. Are the MJ folks cheese-eating surrender monkeys, too?
By the way, is
Devine, James wrote:
Mother Jones magazine, a magazine
catering to Birkenstock-wearing, Sierra Club-donating, brie-eating
liberals.
hey, Louis, have you been channeling Dick Cheney? It sure sounds like him or someone in the neo-con crowd. Are the MJ folks cheese-eating surrender monkeys, too?
At 7:48 PM -0400 7/26/04, Louis Proyect wrote:
Devine, James wrote:
Mother Jones magazine, a magazine
catering to Birkenstock-wearing, Sierra Club-donating, brie-eating
liberals.
hey, Louis, have you been channeling Dick Cheney? It sure sounds
like him or someone in the neo-con crowd. Are the MJ
, constiutionalist talk. We've got to
critique all, new Gotha Programmes more.
Meanwhile, it seems as though Michael Moore is doing more good than harm,
but criticism-self-criticism is one of our modes.
From Michael Moore's letter to Las Vegas:
What country do you live in? Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in
the United States. And in the United States, we have something called
The First Amendment. This constitutional right gives everyone here the
right to say whatever they want to say
Michael Moore writes: Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in
the United States. And in the United States, we have something called
The First Amendment. This constitutional right gives everyone here the
right to say whatever they want to say. All Americans hold this right as
sacred.
isn't
Michael Moore writes: Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the
United States. And in the United States, we have something called The
First Amendment. This constitutional right gives everyone here the
right to say whatever they want to say. All Americans hold this right as
sacred.
isn't
Yes, I think that would have been a better point for Moore to make.
Remind people they don't have free speech at work.
Gene Coyle
Devine, James wrote:
Michael Moore writes: Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in
the United States. And in the United States, we have something called
The First
http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/sandronsky07162004/
Friday, July 16, 2004
Labor Lessons
By Seth Sandronsky
Review of Naming the System: Inequality and Work in the Global Economy
by Michael D. Yates (Monthly Review Press, 2003, 288 pages).
Working Americans are not alone
American Leftists, Michael Moore, and Ralph Nader:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/american-leftists-michael-moore-and.html
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
American Leftists, Michael Moore, and Ralph Nader:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/american-leftists-michael-moore-and.html
This Mark Ames is a real piece of work, isn't he? He barely looks old
enough to shave, but has the gall to dress down the US left. What gives
From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Moore's Dilemma: Israel, Saudi Arabia, and John Kerry
(There are two conspicuous absences in Fahrenheit 9/11: John Kerry
and Israel. The two absences are dependent on each other.
Moore's electioneering really beats the stuffing out of the historical
Michael Moore's Dilemma: Israel, Saudi Arabia, and John Kerry
(There are two conspicuous absences in Fahrenheit 9/11: John Kerry
and Israel. The two absences are dependent on each other. Plus,
notes on John Kerry's latest policy paper on Israel John Kerry:
Strengthening Israel's Security
From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Moore's Dilemma: Israel, Saudi Arabia, and John Kerry
(There are two conspicuous absences in Fahrenheit 9/11: John Kerry
and Israel. The two absences are dependent on each other.
Moore's electioneering really beats the stuffing out of the historical
From: Carl Remick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...To examine the Iraq war without mentioning the neocons and the
Wolfowitz Doctrine is like, say, looking at the origins of World War I
without mentioning the General General Staff ...
Er, make that the German General Staff. I must have been thinking of
(In doing some background research on Michael Moore for a Revolution
Magazine article on Fahrenheit 9/11, I found an article that reminded me
why I will always have a soft spot in my heart for him whatever mistakes
he makes around electoral politics. In 1990, I was setting up a debate
on Nicaragua
, seriously, though...
STORM: No, let's talk about your movie.
Copyright 2004 CBS Worldwide Inc.
All Rights Reserved
CBS News Transcripts
SHOW: The Early Show (7:00 AM ET) - CBS
June 25, 2004 Friday
TYPE: Interview
LENGTH: 1467 words
HEADLINE: Michael Moore discusses his film, Fahrenheit 9/11
STORM: So
NY Times, May 5, 2004
Disney Forbidding Distribution of Film That Criticizes Bush
By JIM RUTENBERG
WASHINGTON, May 4 The Walt Disney Company is blocking its Miramax
division from distributing a new documentary by Michael Moore that
harshly criticizes President Bush, executives at both Disney
In case you
haven't heard...
Disney Has Blocked the Distribution of My New Film... by Michael
Moore
May 5, 2004
Friends,
I would have hoped by now that I would be able to put my work out to the
public without having to experience the profound censorship obstacles I often
seem to encounter
perhaps of interest to pen-pals...
-Original Message-
From: Palm Digital Media [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 2/28/2004 12:20 AM
To: Devine, James
Cc:
Subject: New Palm Digital Media books by Michael Perelman
Labor lessons
By Seth Sandronsky
Working Americans are not alone, though it may seem that way sometimes. In
fact, they join a mass of about 2.5 billion people worldwide who labor for a
living. In Naming the System: Inequality and Work in the Global Economy,
author Michael D. Yates focuses
Now that Gen. Clark's no longer running, who will Michael Moore endorse,
knocking him out of the race?
;-)
Whichever candidate will best serve the marketing needs of his next
film? (Some of which, I hear, will be animated in China.)
Dan Scanlan
We await Michael Moores concession speech after his hero, General
Wesley Clark, tasted the ashes of defeat in Tennessee and Virginia and
sensibly threw in the towel.
If Dean was the hero of the dot coms, Clark was a creation of the
Arkansas-Hollywood axis embodied in Clinton-era stage managers
with kerry to winning with dean...
clark's candidacy became increasingly irrelevant with onset of primary
and caucus 'ratifying' destruction of dean campaign, he stuck around at
least one extra week, however, in order to split
'southern' vote with edwards (who ought to be properly agitated)...
michael
Michael Hoover wrote:
dem power
brokers would prefer losing with kerry to winning with dean...
They have always preferred to lose with [whoever] rather than win with
anyone who might conceivably (even unintentionally) give encouragement
to anythink like a social movement. Dean was quite
Carrol Cox wrote:
Michael Hoover wrote:
dem power
brokers would prefer losing with kerry to winning with dean...
They have always preferred to lose with [whoever] rather than win with
anyone who might conceivably (even unintentionally) give encouragement
to anythink like a social movement
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/15/04 06:24PM
Wednesday, January 14th, 2004
I'll Be Voting For Wesley Clark / Good-Bye Mr. Bush by Michael Moore
Many of you have written to me in the past months asking, Who are you
going to vote for this year?
I have decided to cast my vote in the primary for Wesley
out in earlier post today, moore actively encouraged clark
to run, his recent public announcement
endorsing clark, however, follows that of madonna 'coming out' for the
general last month... michael hoover
Carrol Cox wrote:
This is what I mean by saying leftists should give up the myths of DP
cowardice or stupidity. Assume that DP leadership knows what it is doing
and has as much courage as any given bunch of leaders from either party.
So they really mean to keep losing governorships and
at the
same time. That ideological division makes them bad at partisan
conflict, esp when their rival's approach is take no prisoners.
Doug
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
So we're reduced to the old, If you don't know, then I'm certainly
not going to tell you, are we?
More like the old lean by doing method. . . .
--
Yoshie
Louis:
I am clear that I misunderstood you - when you clairfy in tihs ntoe that you are not
an 'abstentinis'.
With repsects to the Green party I suppose you are quite aware of infomration on
Portside today,
that they won a signficant vote (I think in the SF area).
My apologies, I caught one
CC: 4. If a real fascist (or some new kind authoritarian populism) were to arise in
the U.S. it could not be defeated by DP politicians. It could
only be defeated by the unity of a _real_ social democratic party _and_ the 21st c.
equivalent of a communist movement. But those urging us to
support
Hari:
Well, Lenin viewed those SD parties as bourgeois parties. Certainly if
you read his writings with the
British (Dreadnought Pankhursts etc) in mind, that is clearly the intent.
No, he did not see them as bourgeois parties. The Kadets in Russia were a
bourgeois party, as are the Republican
Carrol Cox wrote:
You mean that there will come a wonderful day when, having gone to bed
voting for the DP, we awaken the next morning to a glorious dawn of
class consciousness. Wow!
If that day doesn't come, will there be a day when we go to bed not
having voted for the DP, but done things
It seems, really, that there are two issues here:
1) whether to vote DP in 2004
2) whether it's important to organize something like a labor party
The answer to both seems to be yes, though I fear 2) won't really happen
until after the economic collapse.
Joanna
Doug Henwood wrote:
Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote:
Carrol Cox wrote:
You mean that there will come a wonderful day when, having gone to bed
voting for the DP, we awaken the next morning to a glorious dawn of
class consciousness. Wow!
If that day doesn't come, will there be a day when we go to bed not
having voted for
Carrol Cox wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
Carrol Cox wrote:
You mean that there will come a wonderful day when, having gone to bed
voting for the DP, we awaken the next morning to a glorious dawn of
class consciousness. Wow!
If that day doesn't come, will there be a day when we go to bed not
Carrol writes:
But those urging us to
support the DP this year are telling us to postpone once more the effort
to build a mass left movement. Supporting the DP intead of focusing on
our real task of mass-movement building can leave the u.s. helpless
against fascism down the road.
in the US at
It seems to me, following on Jim Ds comments below, that our job in
this election period should be to develop criteria for people to use
when thinking about voting. In other words, we need to get working
people to see that a strong and accountable public sector is desirable
and feasible.
Doug Henwood wrote:
Carrol Cox wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
Carrol Cox wrote:
You mean that there will come a wonderful day when, having gone to bed
voting for the DP, we awaken the next morning to a glorious dawn of
class consciousness. Wow!
If that day doesn't come, will
movement of any momentum whatever, from
local reforms to successful overthrow of the state, has always
practiced.
It is simply bizarre to divide the population into the radical and the
non-radical. And if you can't see how bizarre that is, I can't help
you.
Carrol
--
Michael Perelman
Economics
- Original Message -
From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Michael Moore and General Clark
Doug Henwood wrote:
Carrol Cox wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
Carrol Cox wrote:
You mean
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Ballard wrote:
We have to take what we can get until we're class
consciously organized and therefore powerful
enough to
take it ALL back.
You mean that there will come a wonderful day when,
having gone to bed
voting for the DP, we
This way we do not become captive to a candidate and his political
shifts. This is how I understand the meaning of an anybody but Bush
movement. We build a movement with criteria and then accept the need
to vote for the democratic candidate that best measures up. In this
way we are building
In today's New York Times magazine there is an interesting article about a
woman who has worked hard her whole life but keeps falling further and further
behind. It is titled "A Poor Cousin of the Middle Class" and is written by
David K. Shipler. I want to urge Michael Moo
Mike Ballard wrote:
No you silly boy. I mean that we have to engage in
the class struggle over the social product of labour
until we're strong enough to take it all i.e. abolish
the wages system.
How does we get defined?
How are conflicts within that we (racism, sexism, skill levels,
Lou Proyect said:
Matt Gonzalez was a lifelong Democrat, but decided to run as a
Green in SF. He got 47 percent of the vote, a very good indication
of what is possible.
John Gulick says:
Regardless of what disposition Marxists, radicals, left-liberals, etc. take
toward electoral politics in
, no Dems. seem willing to take on Bush. Henry Waxman might be
the only other voice and he is far from a leftist.
What the Dems say is important because it could allow us to communicate a
more critical message.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel
Frederick Emrich, Editor, info-commons.org wrote:
So we're reduced to the old, If you don't know, then I'm certainly not
going to tell you, are we?
I've been telling and telling and telling from the very beginning of the
LBO-talk list. I must have generated (along with Yoshie Furuhashi and
Michael Perelman wrote:
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am finding this discussion very
useful. My interest -- not necessarily support -- of Dean is that his
style might open up a critical discussion of Bush, showing other Dems.
that you can stand up to those bastards.
John Gulick
Prestowitz. All of this reflects the paucity of US political
culture.
John Gulick
Knoxville, TN
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--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Ballard wrote:
No you silly boy. I mean that we have to engage
in
the class struggle over the social product of
labour
until we're strong enough to take it all i.e.
abolish
the wages system.
How does we get defined?
I define we as
Perelman said:
The Dean campaign might be more like the McCarthy campaign.
Gulick sez:
That's probably a better analogy. Both Dean and McCarthy are/were cut from
the same Rockefeller Republican mold, a mold that resonates with the habitus
of the liberal arts college-types who project all kinds
John Gulick wrote:
Both of these groups are prepossesed with the most muddled of
convictions -- willing on the one hand to entertain the
most way-out single-note conspiracy theories about Iraq being
about nothing other than enriching Halliburton and Bechtel,
I don't know or claim to know the
John Gulick wrote:
It doesn't necessarily mean that lesser-evilism is
tactically or strategically wrong-headed (or right-headed
for that matter). But some intellectual consistency
would be nice.
This is what I mean by saying leftists should give up the myths of DP
cowardice or stupidity.
Lou Proyect said:
Matt Gonzalez was a lifelong Democrat, but decided to run as a
Green in SF. He got 47 percent of the vote, a very good indication
of what is possible.
John Gulick says:
Regardless of what disposition Marxists, radicals, left-liberals, etc. take
toward electoral politics in
Carrol Cox said:
This is what I mean by saying leftists should give up the myths of DP
cowardice or stupidity. Assume that DP leadership knows what it is doing
and has as much courage as any given bunch of leaders from either party.
Then if you still want to vote for Dean or Clark or whoever,
.
Michael Moore is a liberal (conservator of the
capitalist system), not a revolutionary. He is doing
what he can to get the social conservatives and
neo-cons out of direct State power. As I think
Michael Perleman indicated, one very good thing that
could come out of a DP victory over the RP would
Michael Moore with humour not as our left
saviour.
Cheers
Hari
Hari:
However, I cannot
believe that some modification of this view does not allow mobilisation
behind a non-SD-ic but liberal candidate - i.e. in the circus of all
electoral circuses, those taking place in the USA [Oh sorry, I forgot
India - they are the best cirucses I have seen].
But that's
, concentrating personalities is dangerous. To me, the
formerly AWOL Bush was as ridiculous in his military get up as Michael Dukakis
grinning on the tank. The press treated one reverentially and the other with
well-deserved ridicule.
Look how quickly the process dismantled the Dean persona
It's off with Gramsci and on with Che. . . .l love them both, but as I re-read Jon Anderson's 1997 book on Che and the Cuban revolution. . .and as I read deeper into how Lenin made the Russian revolution. . .and as I reflect on how the IRA, Sandinistas and Vietnamese made their revolutions
Michael Perelman writes:
What would have happened if Gore had been president on September 11? We have
had to prove his manhood and to act more precipitously than Bush?
we should remember that it was a Democrat (Truman) who started the Cold War and the
McCarthyite loyalty checks. The the GOP
Jose writes:
Jim presents a pretty straightforward lesser evil argument in defense of Michael
Moore's position.
Response (Jim C): This may appear to be equivocating but it isn't. Read what I said
exactly:
This will no doubt piss some people off, but I can understand why self-described
Mike Ballard wrote:
We have to take what we can get until we're class
consciously organized and therefore powerful enough to
take it ALL back.
You mean that there will come a wonderful day when, having gone to bed
voting for the DP, we awaken the next morning to a glorious dawn of
class
Hari Kumar wrote:
I trust this is not too old a thread to allow further comment.
I know that PEN-ers may be allergic to the name, but still - I was
surprised that the old Leninist adage of Support them (=social
democracy) like a rope supports a hanged man - did not come up. Though
the intent
CC wrote:
George Bush is NOT a fascist (he may be worse in some ways, but he is
not remotely the leader of a fascist movement)
So Ubu Potus is *worse* than a fascist! And who is it who is supposed
not to care whether or not he consolidates and worsens yet further
his *worse than fascist* regime?
--- MICHAEL YATES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why
is this the choice?
**
The choice of which pre-selected candidate of the
major parties to vote for, will be made outside *our*
ability to influence said selection. If you're going
to vote for one of the candidates of the two party
system
.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 1/15/2004 9:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Michael Moore and General Clark
Clark may be smart and has
--like Leslie
Cagan and others.
Basically, it miseducates the left when people like Michael Moore back a
General Clark. But the same thing is true for a Dean endorsement. Let me
qualify that. It is no big deal if a left-liberal endorses Dean. That is
consistent with their philosophy
d most horrible costs and pain with Bush's re-selection by the powers that
be.
I suspect that this
may be the conclusion Michael Moore has come to and perhaps some of the reasons
for coming to that conclusion. As for me, well I plan to revisit Georgi
Dimitrov's speech to the Third Communist In
k hanly wrote:
PS sorry about the tabula rasa...
no problem, we know your *nature* and given the position of each atom,
its a trivial matter to compute what you intended to say! ;-)
--ravi
to Chiang in these terms? General Clark told me
that it's people like him who are truly anti-war because it's people like
him who have to die if there is a war. That's what Michael Moore said.
Clark is the same guy who used depleted uranium shells in Yugoslavia. Moore
was respected by the left for his
://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
-Original Message-From: Craven, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:30
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [PEN-L] Michael
Moore and Wesley Clark
This will no doubt
piss some people off, but I can understand why self
Louis wrote:
But did Mao ever refer to Chiang in these terms? General Clark told me
that it's people like him who are truly anti-war because it's people
like him who have to die if there is a war. That's what Michael Moore
said. Clark is the same guy who used depleted uranium shells in
Yugoslavia
Louis,
FYI, regarding the assertion by someone on the list that
Kucinich had only abstained on the war resolution vote in October 2002.
Thanks.
Robb Chavez
CORRECTING MICHAEL MOORE
Michael Moore has sent out a misleading Email that has many people asking if
Dennis voted for the war
Counterpunch, January 16, 2004
The General's Henchman
Michael Moore Smears Kucinich
By DAVE LINDORFF
Film producer and journalist Michael Moore, who has decided to endorse and
actively campaign for retired Gen. Wesley Clark for the Democratic
presidential nomination, has crossed the line
like
Michael Moore back a
General Clark. But the same thing is true for a Dean
endorsement. Let me
qualify that. It is no big deal if a left-liberal
endorses Dean. That is
consistent with their philosophy. But to be mouthing
phrases about
revolution and socialism while jumping
Wednesday, January 14th, 2004
Ill Be Voting For Wesley Clark / Good-Bye Mr. Bush by Michael Moore
Many of you have written to me in the past months asking, Who are you
going to vote for this year?
I have decided to cast my vote in the primary for Wesley Clark. That's
right, a peacenik
--- Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wednesday, January 14th, 2004
Ill Be Voting For Wesley Clark / Good-Bye Mr. Bush
by Michael Moore
Those of us who are impractical enough to
oppose the two capitalist
parties today will I'm sure be seen as the true
heirs of the abolitionists
Wanting to uproot a right-wing moron like Bush is one
thing and a good thing at that. The social revolution
is another, deeper project, which will probably go
better with Shrub and his weeds out of State power.
At least, that's my view.
Regards,
Mike B)
Is this the anarchist party line?
Louis
At 1:52 PM +1100 1/16/04, Mike Ballard wrote:
Wanting to uproot a right-wing moron like Bush is one thing and a
good thing at that. The social revolution is another, deeper
project, which will probably go better with Shrub and his weeds out
of State power. At least, that's my view.
Even if your
--- Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanting
to uproot a right-wing moron like Bush is
one
thing and a good thing at that. The social
revolution
is another, deeper project, which will probably go
better with Shrub and his weeds out of State power.
At least, that's my view.
Is
--- Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 1:52 PM +1100 1/16/04, Mike Ballard wrote:
Wanting to uproot a right-wing moron like Bush is
one thing and a
good thing at that. The social revolution is
another, deeper
project, which will probably go better with Shrub
and his weeds out
- Original Message -
From: Mike Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: Michael Moore and General Clark
I sense stand-up comedy was never your forte.
Mike B
I thought that Michael Moore was being a standup comic in suggesting he
would vote for Wesley Clark. Clark is the guy who ordered a Brit commander
to block Pristina airport with tanks so the Russians couldnt land but the
Brit said that he did not want to start world war III and didnt go along
Clark may be smart and has a military history, but I know not of a single
progressive action that he has taken.
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 11:28:57PM -0600, k hanly wrote:
I thought that Michael Moore was being a standup comic in suggesting he
would vote for Wesley Clark. Clark is the guy who
and
the people who sub to this list ain't amongst THEM.
Regards to all,
Mike B)
--- k hanly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I
thought that Michael Moore was being a standup
comic in suggesting he
would vote for Wesley Clark. Clark is the guy who
ordered a Brit commander
to block Pristina airport with tanks
Why is this the choice? Who would urge a vote for Bush? Why
would a radical vote for either one? Remember when people said that we had
to vote for LBJ because Goldwater was so bad? Michael Moore is risking
becoming a kind of cottage industry, more commodity than person. How can a
person
Dec. 30, 2003, 1:34PM
Man trapped for 2 days under pile of books, papers
Associated Press
NEW YORK- A man who says he sells books and magazines on the street
was rescued after being trapped for two days under a mountain of
reading material in his apartment.
Patrice Moore, 43, had apparently been
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
That's a New York Story, not a Chico story. Maybe, a warning to
Doug Lou. :-
Things are tight here, no doubt, but if Michael's office still looks
like it did when I saw it, and if Chico were hit by even a mild
earthquake, our esteemed moderator might not be heard from
Dec. 30, 2003, 1:34PM
Man trapped for 2 days under pile of books, papers
Associated Press
NEW YORK- A man who says he sells books and magazines on the street was
rescued after being trapped for two days under a mountain of reading
material in his apartment.
Patrice Moore, 43, had apparently been
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