--- sartesian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris,
You gave a better answer when you earlier when you
said you didn't know.
Assuming want Kashmiris want or don't want is
exactly not the issue. The
issue is the material determinants of the struggle,
the history of the
conflict in the area and
OutlookIndia.com
Web | Jul 23, 2004
OPINION
The Sarajevo Of Iraq
In the ongoing crisis in Iraq, one factor has remained
unchanged: the loyalty of the Kurds to Washington. And
the worsening Kurdish-Arab friction.
DILIP HIRO
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20040723fname=hirosid=1
Hi Ravi, you wrote:
--- ravi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i do not know about fighters, but definitely quite a
few kashmiris have
been killed in kashmir by indian forces. a simple
search on amnesty.org
for 'kashmir' yields multiple pages and reports of
abuse and murder
perpetrated by the indian govt
Aren't there some benefits to the working class for people to be able to buy
houses for less ?
Charles
^
by Devine, James
July 25, 2004
GRETCHEN MORGENSON
Housing Bust: It Won't Be Pretty
LET the stock market slide. Let the bond market sink. As long as home prices
keep rocking,
BTW I think he makes too much of the use of the word
comrade. Comrade has about as much political
meaning in Russia as sir does in English.
PRC: Renmin Wang Article Views Upcoming Sino-Russian
Military Exercises
Beijing Renmin Wang WWW-Text in Chinese 09 Jul 04
[Article appearing on Renmin Wang
Dissent From Labor
SEIU Chief Says the Democrats Lack Fresh Ideas
Stern Asserts That a Kerry Win Could Set Back Efforts to Reform the Party
By David S. Broder
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 27, 2004; Page A13
BOSTON, July 26 -- Breaking sharply with the enforced harmony of the
SNAPSHOT
'Fahrenheit 9/11' fans welcome hero to hotbed
By Yvonne Abraham, Boston Globe Staff | July 27, 2004
The man of the hour was more than an hour late.
A group of veterans and soldiers' families waited for Michael Moore in a
North End park yesterday, chatting, eating pizza, checking their
Marvin Gandall wrote:
social democratic governments are now commonplace, of course. Which raises
the question: what keeps the unions wedded to these parties despite their
repeated disappointments with them? The traditional left answer is that the
workers lack sufficient consciousness of the nature
if a Kerry administration is forced to preside over deep cuts
to Social Security and other social programs
?
nothing will force a Kerry Administration to cut Social Security. There
is nothing wrong with Social Security.
At 09:39 AM 7/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
(A pretty remarkable public
Presbyterians Divest from the Israeli Occupation (the first US
church -- and so far the largest membership organization -- to embark
upon divestment from the Israeli occupation):
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/presbyterians-divest-from-israeli.html
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages:
-Original Message-
From: Robert Naiman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jul 27, 2004 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] An emerging labor-led left in the DP?
if a Kerry administration is forced to preside over deep cuts
to Social Security and other social programs
?
nothing will
Anthony D'Costa wrote:
There are two main national languages: Hindi and English. A good number
of people don't speak either. But they tend to be from rural areas from
the non-Hindi belt.
my experience differs somewhat from this assessment. i am from madras
which is definitely from the
Chris Doss wrote:
Given that knowledge of English is so low and the
absence of a national language (I guess), what is the
lingua franca in India? I mean, is there any language
that people anywhere in India would be able to
communicate in (like Russian in the fSU)? Without
that, I imagine it
Published on Friday, July 23, 2004
Nader Campaigns in Science Center
By JOSHUA P. ROGERS
Harvard Crimson Staff Writer
As Boston geared up for the Democratic National Convention, independent
candidate Ralph Nader crashed the party with a spirited rally on Friday
afternoon in the Science Center.
In
relation to questions raised by Paul on HDI, etc, a friend has directed
me to a recent piece by Robert Wade in New Political Economy. I assume
it's in the following issue:
Volume 9, Number 2, June
2004 SPECIAL ISSUE: INTERNATIONAL POLITICAL ECONOMY
AND DEVELOPMENT Articles
Introduction:
The Hindu
Thursday, Jul 22, 2004
China frees whistle-blower
Beijing: The Chinese military surgeon who exposed the
Government's cover-up
of the SARS crisis was released on Tuesday after seven
weeks of political
re-education'', his family said. Jiang Yanyong (72), a
semi-retired general
in the
See How They Fund
By David S. Bernstein, Boston Phoenix. Posted July 27, 2004.
One year ago, conventional political wisdom held that the Democratic
presidential nominee would be in trouble right now. After spending all
his cash in a tough primary battle, the thinking went, the candidate
would
At 11:14 AM 7/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
In relation to questions raised by Paul on HDI, etc, a friend has
directed me to a recent piece by Robert Wade in New Political Economy. I
assume it's in the following issue:
Thanks very much, I will look for it and will also try to comment a bit
Sorry, egg on my face.
At 12:04 PM 7/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
At 11:14 AM 7/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
In relation to questions raised by Paul on HDI, etc, a friend has
directed me to a recent piece by Robert Wade in New Political Economy. I
assume it's in the following issue:
Thanks very
if a Kerry administration is forced to preside over deep cuts
to Social Security and other social programs
?
nothing will force a Kerry Administration to cut Social Security. There
is nothing wrong with Social Security.
Me: that's right. There's nothing wrong with SS.
jdevine
People's Daily Online
Life
UPDATED: 14:01, July 27, 2004
Some 100 million Chinese continue to suffer iodine
deficiency
China's plan to eradicate iodine deficiency disorders
by 2000 has been
frustrated by chronic shortages of the indispensable
element in some areas,
health authorities said at a
Louis Proyect wrote:
Unfortunately, knowing that Kerry is inimical to the interests of
working people does not stop the bureaucracy from backing the DP.
---
This raises the question of the relationship between the labour base and the
labour bureaucracy. The
from MSN
Jubak's Journal
The high cost of do-it-yourself
cost-cutting
Lower prices mask a bitter truth: The customer
still pays, but with time and frustration. A company that can cut prices without
alienating its public could be a great buy.
By Jim Jubak
I was thinking about
Marvin Gandall wrote:
In fact, the local and national labour full-timers I've met have seemed a
lot less alien to the working class than left-wing intellectuals who
regularly denounce them.
This might be related to the fact that you were a trade union
functionary for over 25 years.
Sure, some have
There is no need to get personal!
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 01:36:31PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
This might be related to the fact that you were a trade union
functionary for over 25 years.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel.
Michael Perelman wrote:
There is no need to get personal!
Well, I was highly insulted by all that stuff about intellectuals. How
dare anybody refer to me in those terms. If he was not referring to me,
then all is forgiven.
--
The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org
by Marvin Gandall
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-- which explains their stubborn
refusal to buy the argument that the Democrats are inimical to the
interests of working people. I think there will first have to be a major
change in the way most people, especially in the cities, experience the
system and the two parties
I didn't know that there were intellectuals on this list.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Louis
Proyect
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:03 AM
To:
Notices whom they choose as counterweights to Dean and Shiller, the
defenders of the dot.com and tulip bubbles.
The Perils of Predicting Financial Bubbles By EDUARDO PORTER
New York Times
Published: July 25, 2004
HOUSING prices will plunge. Now. This is the conclusion of a growing
troupe of
http://www.chireader.com/movies/archives/2004/0704/072304.html
Unsafe at Any Size
The Corporation
Directed by
Mark Achbar and Jennifer Abbott
Written by
Joel Bakan, Harold Crooks, and Achbar
Narrated by
Mikela J. Mikael.
Rating
* * * *
Masterpiece
By Jonathan Rosenbaum
A month ago I attended
Charles Brown wrote:
by Marvin Gandall
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-- which explains their stubborn
refusal to buy the argument that the Democrats are inimical to the
interests of working people. I think there will first have to be a major
change in the way most people, especially in the cities, experience
by Perelman, Michael
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Mr. Hassett of the conservative American Enterprise Institute thinks
housing prices will be pretty much O.K. He acknowledges there might be
some bubble dynamics at play in some regions. But he argues that for the
most part people are paying more for homes because
He is saying that lower interest rates higher incomes increase demand. In itself
that is reasonable, but the question is whether it is enough to explain the soaring
costs of housing. If you know nothing about economics you have to choose between
Dean Baker someone who predicted a 36,000
Marvin Gandall wrote:
Most union households are for the Democrats as they are for the
social-democrats abroad. But union density in the US is smaller and has been
declining steadily. That would explain the lesser weight of the unions in
the DP than in the social democratic parties, although this
Chris wrote:
Does Russia still export cars to Cuba? Putin has been
trying to reestablish strong ties between the two countries.
The newer cars seem to be imports from countries other than either Russia
or the US -- most were Japanese cars. I didnt find much interest among
Cubans from many
Ulhas wrote:
Diane Monaco wrote:
There are three -- actually four if you include the
euro that is now
accepted at a few tourist locations in Havana --
currencies used in Cuba:
the Cuban peso, the convertible peso (equivalent to
the dollar), and
dollars. All three of these currencies
I appreciate Michael's intent to keep order, although I didn't especially
mind your barb; I've seen you much less restrained. But I don't understand
your angry reply. Why is it ok for you to call me a trade union functionary
for 25 years (actually 20, I was previously a steward in the Steelworkers
Michael wrote:
Economics is all about measuring in measurable. I was reading this week about
scientific racism in Victorian England, where people tried to develop
mathematical
measures of how close various peoples came to being Africans. These
measures showed
the Irish were almost Black. Such
Owning Up to Abortion
By BARBARA EHRENREICH
Published: July 22, 2004
The New York Times
Abortion is legal - it's just not supposed to be mentioned or
acknowledged as an acceptable option. An article in The Times on Sunday,
Television's Most Persistent
Taboo, reported that a Viacom-owned
Louis wrote:
Moreover, it is a mistake
to lump all the Kurds together. The Workers
Party in Turkey never cut
deals with imperialism, while the Iranian Kurds were allied with
the
USSR at one point, until Stalin's typically cynical double-dealing
forced them to look elsewhere. Of course, the Iraqi
Ulhas Joglekar wrote:
ravi wrote:
Let there be self-determination everywhere, from
Bejing toHavana.
in a general sense, why not?
Surely, Cuban leadership (and this is only an example)should offer
self-determination to Cubans before it demands demands
self-determination for Kashmiris?
i
Chris Doss wrote:
It's counterinsurgency war -- the main victims in
counterinsurgency war are always civilian. It's
probably the most brutal form of warfare there is. I
don't know about the state of the Indian Army, but
most of the horrors against civilians in Chechnya
(leavinf aside the
Ehrenreich's pieces have all been very sharp. Very sharp. Makes you wonder would it
would be right to have a media open to all points of view all of the time.
On the other hand, did anybody see Scott Simon's smarmy WSJ review of F911. The
journal must have toned it down, because it implies
The Pro-Choice movement made a fundamental mistake from the beginning --
by calling themselves pro-choice instead of pro-abortion. You can't win
major political and cultural battles by being shame-faced, which is what
the pro-choice label is.
Some on this list will remember the late Lisa Rogers,
Hassett of Dow -- not NASDAQ as I carelessly wrote earlier -- 36,000 fame also has an
outrageous column in the WSJ describing Kerry's wild eyed fiscal spending plans.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at
It's a Hollow Party (SEIU President Andy Stern calls the Democratic
Party a party of stale ideas, expressing discontent that the
activist base of the party will be in a weak bargaining position
vis-a-vis the party elite after the election -- what if SEIU spent
$65 million it's wasting on the John
Michael Perelman wrote:
Hassett of Dow -- not NASDAQ as I carelessly wrote earlier -- 36,000 fame also has an
outrageous column in the WSJ describing Kerry's wild eyed fiscal spending plans.
Aww, come on Michael. To be outrageous by WSJ op-ed standards it would
have to Be Hermann Goering high
I was wondering: what are Kerry's wild eyed fiscal spending plans? a chicken in
every pot, I hope, or at least pot in every chicken.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL
Oh , I see what you mean on demand.
People are paying more for homes, because the cost of money is down ? How
long can the cost of money stay down in a creditor class dominion ? How long
? Not long ? They $hall overcome.
Then again who is selling the houses ?
Is Dean Baker of Univ of Mich ?
Dean did his Ph.D. at U-Mich.
Taught at Bucknell for a while,
worked at EPI for a while, then
started his own think tank:
http://www.cepr.net
Lots of good stuff there.
mbs
-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles
Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 27,
raviwrote:
i think if i understand you correctly, you are
commenting on the
hypocrisy of cuban support for kashmiris. that may
be valid. can i infer
further that you do not disagree with the content of
their call: i.e.,
the kashmiri people deserve the right of
self-determination?
No, I
Date:Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:26:38 -0400
From:Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A critical look at Michael Moore
(clip)
Considering the fact that Gibson had plans at one point to bankroll
Fahrenheit 9/11, this does not seem so far-fetched. Moore's next
project will deal with the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/04 4:19 PM
Michael Hoover wrote:
responses to my initial post conveyed, by and large, varying degrees
of maximalism, making quantitative leap from my modest suggestion
all the way to presidential electoral politics (by such measures
*all attempts will fail), pervasive
... Kashmir is a part of India. India
has been partitioned once with disastrous
consequences. ...
Ulhas
I don't know much about this subject, but isn't a lot of Kashmir controlled by
Pakistan? so isn't that section part of Pakistan, a country which has already been
partitioned twice
May I recommend that Pen-l folks take a serious look
at a new book by a friend and colleague. Paul Kivel's
book is not only an excellent description of the
ruling elite and how it rules but is also focused on
empowering people by looking at organizing
possibilities. I've already put it on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/04 6:14 PM
The reason I don't push for working through local Democratic
parties is that the Green Party has already shown that it can elect
its own candidates for local offices, so why bother trying the second
best now?
But, all the arguments in favor of concentrating on
Devine, James wrote:
I don't know much about this subject, but isn't a
lot of Kashmir controlled by Pakistan?
Yes, about a third of Kashmir is controlled by
Pakistan.
wouldn't it be best if both India and
Pakistan gave up their claims to the areas that the
other controls?
Yes. India
How much would all of these promises cost? Let's begin with the biggest proposal. The
only existing score for the health plan was provided by Kenneth Thorpe, a former
Clinton official and Emory University professor. He at first placed the cost of Mr.
Kerry's health plan alone at about $1 trillion.
At 9:19 PM -0400 7/27/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
i've not suggested working through local dem branches as such nor
working only on local issues... michael hoover
What you originally suggested is the following:
At 3:27 PM -0400 7/19/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
maybe the three million or so people
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/27/04 11:17 PM
Presumably, leftists who follow your suggestion will be working on
local issues first of all till they succeed in wresting the control
of the Democratic Party at the state level.
At 9:10 PM -0400 7/27/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
greens electing green mayors in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/27/04 11:59 AM
was expecting to read about jet airplanes given post header, and then to
find out that rob reiner was not among leading contributors to 527
orgs, well, my disappointment runneth over... michael hoover
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