paradox of texas republican party

2004-08-13 Thread Michael Hoover
according to texas am political scientist harvey tucker, there is
strong positive relationship between voter turnout and democratic party
vote for governor, since 1970 when republicans began running competitive
elections for governor, dems have won all but one election when turnout
was at least 30% and reps have won all but one elections when turnout
was less than 30%...

rep gubernatorial candidates when big when turnout is small, bush was
elected in '94 with 53.5% of vote and he was re-elected in '98 with 68%
of vote, however, in each election he was only supported by 18% of
age-eligible voters in state, his large majority in latter instance was
result of keeping turnout low rather...

accordingly, greater number of votes texas rep gubernatorial candidate
receives, greater the probability dem candidate will win...   michael
hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Facing South - 8/12/04

2004-08-12 Thread Michael Hoover
F A C I N G   S O U T H
A progressive Southern news report

August 12, 2004 * Issue 86
 _  
INSTITUTE INDEX * Who Is Watching?
Number of government surveillance programs currently in operation: 14
Year that Congress voted to de-fund the Total Information Awareness surveillance 
program due to civil liberties concerns: 2003
Year that the Pentagon admitted it planned to continue TIA-like activities ... 
outside public view: 2004
Number of Florida residents a test-run of the MATRIX database program flagged as 
having a statistical likelihood of being terrorists: 120,000
Estimated value of contracts that will be given to companies for anti-terror 
projects each year until 2010, in billions: $150
Number of lobbyists hired by corporations to secure homeland security contracts: 569
Number of communities that have passed resolutions opposing the Patriot Act and other 
unconstitutional surveillance programs: 344

Sources on file at the Institute for Southern Studies.
 _  
DATELINE: THE SOUTH * Top Stories Around the Region

ACLU DECRIES SURVEILLANCE-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
The government is rapidly increasing its ability to monitor average Americans by 
tapping into the growing amount of consumer data being collected by the private 
sector, according to a report released by the American Civil Liberties Union. The 
government has always recruited informers to help convict criminals, but today that 
recruitment is being computerized, automated, and used against innocent individuals on 
a massive scale that is unprecedented in the history of our nation, the ACLU's 
director said. (Common Dreams, 8/9)
http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0809-07.htm

ARMY GIVES IRAQ CONTRACT TO VIRGINIA COMPANY INVOLVED IN JAIL SCANDAL
The U.S. Army announced the award of a no-bid contract worth up to $23 million to 
Virginia-based CACI International Inc. for private interrogators to gather 
intelligence in Iraq. The contract came just as the Interior Department was preparing 
to cancel the existing contract with CACI, which came under scrutiny earlier this year 
after one of its interrogators was cited for involvement in the sexual humiliation of 
Iraqi captives at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison. (Los Angeles Times, 8/5)
www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-contract5aug05,1,3952058.story 

BEACH CLOSURES FROM POLLUTION INCREASE
The number of days that beaches closed or posted warnings because of pollution rose 
sharply in 2003 due to more rainfall, increased monitoring and tougher standards. 
There were 18,284 days of beach closures and advisories nationwide in 2003, an 
increase of 51 percent  or 6,206 days  from 2002, according to the 14th annual beach 
report by the Natural Resources Defense Council. (Associated Press, 8/6)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=624ncid=624e=4u=/ap/20040806/ap_on_sc/beach_quality_3

PRISON/AIDS LINK HITS AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES
As health specialists continue to grapple with AIDS, the black community faces a 
complex social issue: the link between high rates of imprisonment among 
African-Americans and high rates of H.I.V. and AIDS. (New York Times, 8/6)
http://www.wilmingtonstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040806/ZNYT04/408060357/1002/BUSINESS

PENTAGON: HALLIBURTON FAILED TO ACCOUNT FOR $1.8 BILLION
Pentagon auditors have concluded that Halliburton Co. failed to adequately account for 
more than $1.8 billion of work in Iraq and Kuwait. The amount represents 43 percent of 
the $4.18 billion that Houston-based Halliburton's Kellogg Brown  Root unit has 
billed the Pentagon to feed and house troops in the region, the newspaper said. 
(Reuters, 8/11)
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=5933577

BORDER PATROL GETS MORE POWER TO DEPORT
The Department of Homeland Security said today it will speed up deportations of 
certain illegal immigrants from countries other than Mexico to improve U.S. border 
security. In the past, these would have been sent to an immigration court where cases 
take an average of one year to be processed. Now, these immigrants will be immediately 
returned to their home nation. (Reuters, 8/10)
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2728818

DEMOCRATIC WOMEN GAIN GROUND IN THE SOUTH
While the Democratic Party fights to regain ground in the South, a growing cadre of 
Democratic women are winning races here. Hailing from the right wing of the party, 
Democrats like Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana meld charm 
with conservative politics and a killer political instinct. (The Atlantic, 9/04)
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200409/starr

LIBRARY OF CONGRESS AIMS TO CREATE LARGEST CIVIL RIGHTS ARCHIVE
With a goal of creating the world's largest archive of firsthand accounts of the civil 
rights movement, the Library of Congress is conducting a 35-city, 70-day bus tour to 
mark the 40th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act. The Voices of Civil Rights bus tour 
traces the route of the 1960s Freedom Riders, 

Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 3:03 AM 
At 1:03 AM -0400 8/11/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
of course, my point was that nader people have not - and will not -
raise equal protection matter (although they'll - no doubt, and
rightly so - complain about being exluded from prez debates)...

Have you actually looked into all the lawsuits that the Nader
campaigns have filed?

Here are a couple of lawsuits (probably among many more) that the
Nader campaigns this year and in the part have filed, singly or
jointly with other parties:
the 2004 Texas General Election and all subsequent General Elections
in Texas, and the facts and circumstances relating thereto, are
illegal and unconstitutional, in that they are violative of the
rights of the Plaintiffs under the First and Fourteenth Amendments to
blockquote1. This is a civil action for declaratory and injunctive
relief arising under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and under 42 U.S.C. § 1983.
Plaintiffs challenge the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania's requirement
blockquoteOhio had authority to list the name of presidential
candidate Ralph Nader on the November 2000 ballot without his Green
Party affiliation, a federal appeals court ruled yesterday.
Ohio officials said the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling
upholds the state's position that it has authority to impose
reasonable requirements for ballot listings to ensure orderly, fair
elections.
The Green Party and Nader had argued that keeping the party's
designation off the ballot violated their constitutional rights of
free speech, free association and equal protection of law.
As a matter of fact, in his writing, Nader indicted violations of the
equal protection clause as early as in 1958 in the context of noting
the court's turning a blind eye to them:
The Illinois law was challenged by the Progressive Party just before
the 1948 elections. The case reached the U.S. Supreme Court where it
was argued that the statute's disproportionate favoring of rural
counties violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
In a 6-3 decision, the court disagreed and upheld the law. Writing
the dissent, Justice Douglas stated: The notion that one group can
be granted greater voting strength than another is hostile to our
standards for popular representative government. He was referring to
the fact that 25,000 signatures from 50 of the least populous
counties could form a new party while the same number from 49
counties with 87 percent of the registered voters could not. . . .


stand corrected re. reference to 14th amendment, although none of above addresses 
point i was making, they're all *within* states, not *among* them..

texas example is about differential filing deadlines between parties and independent 
candidates in texas, not differential deadlines throughout states...

penn example is about absence of waiver for filing fee in penn (other states make 
allowance for such, thus, to not do so could be determined 'unreasonable' under 83 
supreme court decision

btw: 83 supreme court decision allows for differential definition of 
'reasonableness'...

ohio example is about differential number of petition signatures needed in ohio, party 
vs independent candidate...

re. illinois example in 58 nader co-authored article, douglas dissent refers to 
differential number of signatures among state's counties, interestingly, this does 
begin to get at my point if douglass critique is applied *among* the states, similar 
to warren's 64 majority opinion in _reynolds v sims_ (case from alabama, if memory 
serves correctly)
holding that one-person one-vote apportionment principle applied to state senates as 
well as to state lower-houses, if so, similar *principle* could also apply to u.s. 
senate irrespective of 1787 constitutional arrangement, same for douglass dissent if 
one considers differential numbers in various states (which could be addressed with 
use of
percentage since states do have different size populations)...

many technical/procedural/justice problems arise from 1787 constitutional language 
assigning each state authority to determine times, places, manner of holding 
elections...


Sorry, I meant to write the Liberty Party.  Although its vote never
exceeded 3% of the votes cast in a presidential election, the party
did further political abolitionism. In closely contested state and
local elections, the Liberty party often held the balance of power,
sometimes causing major party candidates to take advanced antislavery
positions in a bid for its support (Kinley J. Brauer, Liberty
Party, Encyclopedia Americana).  More importantly, many Libertymen
eventually joined with anti-slavery factions of Whigs and Democrats
to form the Free Soil Party, many of whose former members would later
form the core of the Republican Party. Only out of many seeming
failures can a movement grow -- in fact, there is no way people can
gain political experience except by trying, failing

Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 11:44 PM 
At 9:20 PM -0400 8/10/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
maybe post header should have read: anybody but kerry and cobb, in
any event, no need to limit oneself to left petit-bourgeois
deviationism of nader, choose between several real-live socialists
(commies even)

Only Nader/Camejo represented a potential to threaten the Democratic
Party's hegemony over the left side of the political spectrum by
taking 2-7% of the votes, according to the polls
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/08/nader-2004-nader-2000.html --
hence the Democrats' well-organized attacks on Nader/Camejo.
Among the parties that you listed, only the Libertarian Party, whose
core supporters are well-to-do, will have its candidate on the
ballots in all 50 states:
blockquoteDemocratic strategists have long fretted that Ralph Nader
could draw votes from their presidential candidate. But a new survey
suggests that President Bush faces a potential threat of his own from
a more obscure spoiler: Michael Badnarik.
In the survey, conducted in three Midwest battleground states, some
voters who said they would choose Bush over Sen. John F. Kerry in a
two-candidate race also said they would pick Badnarik, the
Libertarian Party nominee for president, if he were added to the
ballot.
The numbers for Badnarik were small: He drew 1% to 1.5% of the vote
in a four-way race with Bush, Democratic candidate Kerry and Nader,
an independent. But analysts said the results suggested that the
small-government Libertarians could attract enough conservatives
disaffected with Bush's leadership to swing a tight race, just as
Nader attracted discontented liberals in 2000.


you're not suggesting that one should only make vote choice among
candidates/parties on ballot in all 50 states..

re. libertarian 'spoiler' for bush, i posted figures in aftermath of
2000 election indicating that this happened in several states where
buchanan 'took votes' from bush
'allowing' gore to win those states, buchanan did this with national
aggregate of 1%...
michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 8:32 AM 
many technical/procedural/justice problems arise from 1787
constitutional language assigning each state authority to determine
times, places, manner of holding elections...


meant to note in above portion of earlier point that congress may at any
time by law make or alter state regulations...

query 1: what became of nader's announcement a few months ago that he
was going to establish a 'populist' party...

query 2: reform party 'endorsement' of nader preceded his selection of
camejo as running mate, any listers know whether reform endorsement is
for nader only or does it include candidate at bottom of ticket as
well...

can imagine some (many?) 'reformers' being less than pleased if party
endorsed socialist, 2000 reform party squabbles that gave impression of
turnips falling off vegetable cart still exist to some degree, evidenced
by dual/duel parties in michigan, moreover, nader endorsement has
apparently not gone over well with some (majority?) in whatever remains
of whatever reform party endorsed him, sounds familiar...  mh



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 2:27 PM 
Marvin Gandall wrote:
 I don't attach much credibility to what opportunistic politicians say
in
 election campaigns -- particularly in Kerry's case, where he perceives
his
 electoral fortunes, rightly or wrongly, to be dependent on adaptation
to a
 segment of the voting population infected with a high degree of
chauvinism.

Huh??? A clear majority of Americans now thinks the war was a mistake.
Beyond that, 90 percent of the delegates at the DP convention thought
the same thing. I wouldn't call Kerry an adaptationist at all. I would
say that he is swimming against the stream.


kerry, of course, did go to war...

guy i work with taught at school overseas with jfk's sister years ago
and he says that she talked about how her brother wanted to be prez as
teen (reminds of what used to be reported about clinton), he joined
military because he thought that would be useful in later career,
noticed wind was blowing in different direction after coming back from
vietnam and jumped on anti-war bandwagon (some may recall flap a few
months back
over whether or not jfk was at v v a w meeting in which presidential
assassination was
raised, 'suggestion' was attributed to gainesville 8 defendant scott
camil who feds would later try to kill), surely no one (even his
loudest/strongest 'left' supporters) ever thought kerry was gonna rock
the boat...   michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 11:44 PM 
Only Nader/Camejo represented a potential to threaten the Democratic
Party's hegemony over the left side of the political spectrum by
taking 2-7% of the votes, according to the polls
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/08/nader-2004-nader-2000.html --
hence the Democrats' well-organized attacks on Nader/Camejo.
Yoshie


dems were going after nader irrespective of his standing polls, this was
gonna be payback, baby, for what lots of dems (however misguided and
cry-baby like) think happened in 2000...

and hey, it's their party, they can be scummy, although i'd suggest that
criticizing nade for considering another prez bid, trashing him when he
decides to run, and then
attempting to keep him off ballots and destroy his candidacy (at
relatively little financial cost to dems and economic burden to nader)
are quite different approaches,
some 'lefties' (most, if not all, of whom should be able to offer
persuaive account that nader did not cost gore 2000 election) might
genuinely/sincerely consider first approach to be legitimate or at least
something to debate, such folks should have nothing to do with nor be
associated with people engaged in third approach...

on other hand, nader's folks are pretty disingenuous re. reps who were
apparently working to help him get on ballot, this is same ole' cynical
establishment-like
politics that ought to be shunned...

allow me to play mainstram poli sci guy for a moment, potential
electorate has been told countless times grave importance of 2004
election (for sake of discussion at least, assume this is true),
historical data indicates that so-called 'important' elections are often
close contests, role of minor parties tends to be reduced in such
instances as
competition tends toward 'big tents' of two major parties, tends to be
spike in turnout in these types of elections as well, very largest
percentage of which goes to one or other of two large party camps...

above may help explain why nader fared less well than some had hoped in
2000, might also offer some predictive (so says mainstream poli sci guy)
expectation of nader - and other minor candidates - doing rather poorly
in 2004...   michael hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 9:58 PM 
on other hand, nader's folks are pretty disingenuous re. reps who were
apparently working to help him get on ballot,

You might want to verify your source.
 (as in Michigan where we do not need any
signatures thanks to the Reform Party endorsement).


above was news story for some days during time i was in michigan this
summer,
re. reform party endorsement, apparent problem with ballot line exists
because there are apparently 2 reform parties in state, nader campaign
was said to be filing suit about time i was leaving at end of july, has
there been court ruling in matter, if so, was it decided in nader's
favor, thereby, securing his place on reform line, if not, above
statement by nader is not accurate...

michigan reform party flap led nader campaign in michigan to go from
saying that it wouldn't accept petition signatures generated by reps to
saying that it was no longer sure that it would refuse to accept such
signatures to eventually accepting said signatures (which were in excess
of number needed)...

my source is recollection of news coverage in michigan...   michael
hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


ABK Comrades!

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Hoover
maybe post header should have read: anybody but kerry and cobb, in any event, no need 
to limit oneself to left petit-bourgeois deviationism of nader, choose between several 
real-live socialists (commies even), and yes folks, personal choice party vp candidate 
is *behind green door* marilyn chambers, myself, i'd vote for leonard peltier if pf 
party were on florida ballot... michael hoover

AMERICAN PARTY: 
Diane Templin (California)
Presidential Nominee
Al Moore (Virginia)
Vice Presidential Nominee

CONCERNS OF PEOPLE (PROHIBITION) PARTY: 
Gene Amondson (Alaska) 
Presidential Nominee
Leroy Pletten (Michigan)
Vice Presidential Nominee

CONSTITUTION PARTY: 
Michael Peroutka (Maryland)
Presidential Nominee
Chuck Baldwin (Florida)
Vice Presidential Nominee

GREEN PARTY: 
David Cobb (California)
Presidential Nominee
Pat LaMarche (Maine)
Vice Presidential Nominee

LIBERTARIAN PARTY: 
Michael Badnarik (Texas)
Presidential Nominee
Richard Campagna (Iowa)
Vice Presidential Nominee

PEACE  FREEDOM PARTY: 
Leonard Peltier (Kansas)
Presidential Nominee
Janice Jordan (California) 
Vice Presidential Nominee

PERSONAL CHOICE PARTY: 
Charles Jay (Indiana)
Presidential Nominee
Marilyn Chambers Taylor (California)
Vice Presidential Nominee

PROHIBITION PARTY: 
Earl F. Dodge (Colorado) 
Presidential Nominee
Howard Lydick (Texas)
Vice Presidential Nominee

REFORM PARTY / INDEPENDENT:  
Ralph Nader (I-Connecticut)
Presidential Nominee
Peter M. Camejo (Green-California)
Vice Presidential Nominee 

SOCIALIST PARTY USA:  
Walt Brown (Oregon)
Presidential Nominee
Mary Alice Herbert (Vermont)
Vice Presidential Nominee 

SOCIALIST EQUALITY PARTY: 
Bill Van Auken (New York)
Presidential Nominee
Jim Lawrence (Ohio)
Vice Presidential Nominee 

SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY: 
Róger Calero (New York)
Presidential Nominee
Arrin Hawkins (New York)
Vice Presidential Nominee  

WORKERS WORLD PARTY: 
John Parker (California)
Presidential Nominee
Teresa Gutierrez (New York)
Vice Presidential Nominee 

INDEPENDENTS  WRITE-INS: 
A.J. Albritton (American Republican Party-Mississippi) *
Sterling Allan (Providential Party-Utah) *
Stanford Andy Andress (I-Colorado) *
Joe Bellis (America's Party-Kansas) *
Kenneth M. Bonnell (I-Mississippi) *
Harry Braun (I-Arizona) *
Fred Cook (I-Georgia) *
Eric J. Davis (Michigan) *
Robert DiGiulio (Children's Party-Vermont) *
Bob Dorn (Washington) *
Lonnie D. Frank (I-California) *
John Galt Jr. (I-Pensylvania) *
Jack Grimes (United Fascist Union-Pennsylvania) *
Michael Halpin (I-New York) *
Larry D. Hines (I-Texas) *
Georgia Hough (I-Georgia) *
Keith Judd (I-Massachusetts) *
Darren E. Karr (Party X-Oregon) *
Samuel Keegan (I-Rhode Island) *
Joseph Martyniuk Jr. (I-Illinois) *
David Mevis (I-Mississippi) *
Muadin (E-Democratic Party-Massachusetts) *
Jeffrey Peters (We The People Party-New Hampshire)
Andrew M. Rotramel (I-Texas) *
Joseph Average Joe Schriner (I-Ohio) *
Dennis P. Slatton (United America Party-North Carolina) *
Dan Snow (I-Texas) *
Brian B. Springfield (I-Virginia) *
Lawrence Rey Topham (I-Utah) *
Lemuel Tucker (I-Michigan) *
Da Vid (Light Party-California) *
Tom Wells (Family Values Party-Florida) *
A.J. Wildman (I-Virginia) *

--
Please Note: 
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees 
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request. 
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 3:16 PM 
At 1:07 PM -0400 8/9/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
nader people might be of greater help to polity in general (of
course, this is electoral campaign which, by definition, has narrow
focus) by highlighting unequal/unjust ballot access procedures,
state by state rules are clear violation of 14th admendment equal
protection...

The best way to highlight unequal/unjust ballot access procedures is
to actually run a campaign that runs afoul of them -- then, there is
a practical struggle.  Who cares if ballot access procedures are
unequal and unjust if there is no candidate other than the Democratic
and Republican ones to begin with?


of course, my point was that nader people have not - and will not -
raise equal protection matter (although they'll - no doubt, and rightly
so - complain about being exluded from prez debates)...


At 1:07 PM -0400 8/9/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
carcasses of 'minor' parties across u.s. political landscape

Minor parties -- the Liberal Party, the Free Soil Party, etc. -- are
destined to die, but they are among the important political arenas
through which people network, gain experience, and accumulate
knowledge, and I'm interested in what individuals who are trained in
struggles that cannot immediately achieve their goals learn and what
they will do with what they have learned.  We need to keep learning
from major failures and minor successes until we encounter objective
conditions that may allow us to make use of our experience and
knowledge.


neither of parties cited above would seem to be good examples of your
explanation (wonder how many folks are even familiar with either)...

free soilers (1848-54) were northern elite splinters from dem party who
had come to oppose slavery for economic reasons (in contrast to moral
abolitionists),
they desired 'free land' for homesteading (19th century economic elites
often manipulated egalitarian rhetoric of homesteading for financial
gain by paying people to
occupy land for them) while southern slaver class needed more land to
perpetuate slave-based planatation system...

free soil platform was ambivalent document in which anti-slavery plank
was followed by statement that congress did not have authority to
interfere with slavery within state
boundaries, but then party slogan 'free soil, free speech, free labor,
free men' was contradictory...

interestingly, some complained that martin van buren's (former u.s.
prez, 1837-40) 1848 prez campaign played 'spoiler' in splitting dem
votes - van buren received about 10% of 'popular vote') and allowing
whig zachary taylor to be elected (taylor died in office under somewhat
suspicious circumstances, his body was exhumed within last decade to
look into possibility of arsenic poisoning, test results said no, but
michael parenti (that cper/milosevic supporter/conspiracy theorist!)
suggests otherwise in _new political science_ article a few years
back)...

1850 compromise weakened cause, party got about 5% of vote in 1852 prez
election, dissolved itself shortly after, members dirfted into newly
formed rep party...

re. liberal party, suppose you mean new york liberal party as it is only
one of any significance (if one considers it as such) that i'm aware of,
origins in american labor split at end of ww2 over whether or not
commies should be allowed to play a role in alp,
anti-commie labor leaders opponents of such a role founded liberal
party, so party had organized labor (of a cold war sort) support early
on which manifest itself in endorsement of truman in 48 made possible by
new york's 'fusion' ballot status...

ny liberal party went on to endorse/nominate dem party candidate in
every prez election except 1980 when it supported john anderson, party
also gave endorsements to dem candidates for u.s senate from ny except
for its support of 'liberal' republican jacob javits, some suggest that
party's support of javits - who lost to alphonse d'mato
in rep primary - split dem/lib vote in 1980 between javits and dem
elizabeth holtzman allowing d'mato to win...

what are lessons...

At 1:07 PM -0400 8/9/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
reform party line is absolutely irrevelevant in states where party
has ballot status save two - florida and michigan (drum roll please
- so-called 'battlegrounds')

It would be ironic if Cobb/LaMarche are on the Green Party ballots in
one-party states and Nader/Camejo are on the ballots in battleground
states.
Yoshie


greens have prez ballot line in florida, parties have to hold national
nominating convention to qualify, state went from most difficult access
law in country to one more equitable a few years ago via initiative vote
spearheaded largely by libertarian party with help from some other minor
parties, including green, reform, socialist...

however, my point was that nader's use of reform endorsement is politics
as usual...  michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad

Re: nader goes southwest

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 10:01 PM 
Nader Presidential Campaign Announces Southwest Airlines as its
Unofficial Campaign Airline
Nader had a good word for Southwest Airlines founder, Herb Kelleher.


wonder what nader thinks of kelleher's $47,500 to rep national committee
this year and $2000 to bush campaign...

wonder what nader thinks of southwest helping ins detain 'illegal'
immigrants at various airports...

wonder why nader didn't mention that about 90% of southwest employees
are unionized (seems that would be good reason for selection), of
course, company began with no unions and implemented 'cooperative
culture' environment (via esop) and 'cross-utilization' (allowing
management to take workers from one area and use them temporarily
elsewhere) of employees prior to collective bargaining, these features
have remained prominent parts of southwest's management-labor relations,
both of which serve to increase labor productivity and hold down labor
costs...   michael hoover




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Bush Appointee to Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee

2004-08-09 Thread Michael Hoover
President Bush has announced his plan to select Dr. W. David Hager to
head up the Food and Drug  Administration's (FDA) Reproductive Health
Drugs Advisory Committee. The committee has not met for more than two
years, during which time its charter lapsed. As a result, the Bush
Administration is tasked with filling all eleven positions with new
members. This position does not require Congressional approval. The
FDA's Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee makes crucial
decisions on matters relating to drugs used in the practice of
obstetrics, gynecology and related specialties, including hormone
therapy, contraception, treatment for infertility, and medical
alternatives to surgical procedures for sterilization and pregnancy
termination.

Dr. Hager's views of reproductive health care are far outside the
mainstream for reproductive technology. Dr. Hager is a practicing OB/GYN
who describes himself as pro-life and refuses to prescribe
contraceptives to unmarried women.

Hager is the author of As Jesus Cared for Women: Restoring Women Then
and Now.  The book blends biblical accounts of Christ healing Women
with case studies from Hager's practice.

In the book Dr. Hager wrote with his wife, entitled Stress and the
Woman's Body, he suggests that women who suffer from premenstrual
syndrome should seek help from reading the bible and praying. As an
editor and contributing author of The Reproduction Revolution: A
Christian Appraisal of Sexuality Reproductive Technologies and the
Family, Dr. Hager appears to
have endorsed the medically inaccurate assertion that the common birth
control pill is an abortifacient. Hager's mission is religiously
motivated. He has an ardent interest in revoking approval for
mifepristone (formerly known as RU-486) as a safe and early form of
medical abortion. Hagar recently assisted the Christian Medical
Association in a citizen's petition which calls upon the FDA to revoke
its approval of mifepristone in the name of women's  health.

Hager's desire to overturn mifepristone's approval on religious grounds
rather than scientific merit would halt the development of mifepristone
as a treatment for numerous medical conditions disproportionately
affecting women, including breast cancer, uterine
cancer, uterine fibroid tumors, psychotic depression, bipolar depression
and Cushing's  syndrome.

Women rely on the FDA to ensure their access to safe and effective drugs
for reproductive health care including products that prevent pregnancy.
For some women, such as those with certain types of diabetes and those
undergoing treatment for cancer, pregnancy can be a life-threatening
condition.

We are concerned that Dr. Hager's strong religious beliefs may color his
assessment of technologies that are necessary to protect women's lives
or to preserve and promote women's health.

Hager's track record of using religious beliefs to guide his medical
decision-making makes him a dangerous and inappropriate candidate to
serve as chair of this committee. Critical drug public policy and
research must not be held hostage by antiabortion politics.

Members of this important panel should be appointed on the basis of
science and medicine, rather than politics and religion. American women
deserve no less.


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-09 Thread Michael Hoover
, it is disingenuous to suggest that nader will be
included, unfair prez debate commission rules requiring that candidate
poll at last 15% in 4 of 5 nationa polls insures his exclusion...
michael hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-09 Thread Michael Hoover
 is independent one but
that actually
serves to make my point), party conventions chose vp candidates until
fdr in 1940s,
today, prez nominees announce their choices and conventions accept them
(btw: reform party endorsed nader, not nader/camaejo, as far i know)...

re. prez debates, it is disingenuous to suggest that nader will be
included, unfair prez debate commission rules requiring that candidate
poll at last 15% in 4 of 5 nationa polls insures his exclusion...
michael hoover











Re: Tariq Ali on the US election

2004-08-07 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/04 1:25 AM 
Before getting to the point of actually being able to split the
Democratic and Republican Parties, we need an intermediate goal: do
what we can to make the next POTUS a weak president, rather than a
strong one.  To do so, we need to decrease the shares of popular
votes that go to the Democratic and Republican presidential
candidates.
Yoshie


what poli sci people called 'political capital' is mixture of public
approval  party seats in congress, kerry prez - almost by definition -
would be weak, win will likely be close, dems unlikely to regain control
of either congressional chamber (jfk campaign appears to have taken page
from '96 clinton playbook in that regard)...   michael hoover






--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Whither the Fed?

2004-08-07 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/04 2:11 AM 
... and make the next POTUS John Kerry a weak president without a
big mandate at the same time.)

Is there a subtle flaw here?  If either Kerry or Bush is elected
they will have a big mandate. It just won't be from the people, but
the corporate purchasers. I fear the people's mandate can no
longer be given through the present electoral process.

Dan Scanlan

The larger the shares of popular votes for the Democratic and
Republican presidential candidates, the bigger the next POTUS's
mandate will be, though the mandate is more apparent than real, as
you say.
Yoshie


notion (hesitate to call it theory) of presidential mandate is myth, of
course, myths can have powerful influence...

some occupants of white house start terms with more 'political capital'
than others (i.e., lbj began first full term with deep reservoir
following '64 landslide victory, gerald ford, on other hand, had little
after becoming prez because of 2 resignations - as if to confirm
latter's precarious position, reps loss of seats to dems in '74
congressional elections was large enough to result in smallest
congressional minority for sitting prez in 20th century *and* ford had
largest percentage of vetoes subjected to congressional override in
country's history)...

prez attempts to claim mandates are part of pseudo-democratization of
office, reagan claimed mandate following '80 election even though he
received just over 50% of 'popular' vote by pointing to number of states
he won and - more importantly - number of electoral college votes he
received (about 495 if memory serves), 'winner-take-all' distribution of
ec votes in 48 states gives some prez winners opportunities to claim
mandates by transforming small 'popular' majorities into 'super' ec
majorities...
michael hoover




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Tariq Ali on the US election

2004-08-07 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/04 1:27 PM 
Actually, Bush was a weak president until 9/11/01: a big inauguration
protest, Enron, unimpressive ratings, etc.  According to Fox, for
instance, Bush's approval rating during 1/24-25/01 was a mere 46%!
Yoshie


pre-9/11: congress passed major bush tax cut, education, energy bills
(latter 2 after jeffords became ind and dems gained control of senate),
congress also passed bush's so-called 'bankruptcy reform', bush
abandoned kyoto treaty, bush signed regressive executive orders re.
abortion, labor, health care, among other things...

while 9/11 'made' bush presidency, dems and conservative media had
already allowed bush to get out from under stigma of being 'his
fraudulency 2' (rutherford hayes was called 'his fraudulency' through
term after winning 'corrupt bargain' election of 1876)...
michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Loath by the rich: Why Hugo Chavez is heading for a stunning victory

2004-08-07 Thread Michael Hoover
Loathed by the rich
Why Hugo Chavez is heading for a stunning victory
Richard Gott in Caracas
Saturday August 07 2004
The Guardian


To the dismay of opposition groups in Venezuela, and to the surprise of
international observers gathering in Caracas, President Hugo Chavez is
about to secure a stunning victory on August 15, in a referendum
designed to lead to his overthrow.

First elected in 1998 as a barely known colonel, armed with little more
than revolutionary rhetoric and a moderate social-democratic programme,
Chavez has become the leader of the emerging opposition in Latin America
to the neo-liberal hegemony of the United States. Closely allied to
Fidel Castro, he rivals the Cuban leader in his fierce denunciations of
George Bush, a strategy that goes down well with the great majority of
the population of Latin America, where only the elites welcome the
economic and political recipes devised in Washington.

While Chavez has retained his popularity after nearly six years as
president, support for overtly pro-US leaders in Latin America, such as
Vicente Fox in Mexico and Alejandro Toledo in Peru, has dwindled to
nothing. Even the fence-sitting President Lula in Brazil is struggling
in the polls. The news that Chavez will win this month's referendum will
be bleakly received in Washington.

Chavez came to power after the traditional political system in Venezuela
had self-destructed during the 1990s. But the remnants of the ancien
regime, notably those entrenched in the media, have kept up a steady
fight against him, in a country where racist antipathies inherited from
the colonial era are never far from the surface. Chavez, with his black
and Indian features and an accent that betrays his provincial origins,
goes down well in the shanty towns, but is loathed by those in the rich
white suburbs who fear he has mobilised the impoverished majority
against them.

The expected Chavez victory will be the opposition's third defeat in as
many years. The first two were dramatically counter-productive for his
opponents, since they only served to entrench him in power. An attempted
coup d'etat in April 2002, with fascist overtones reminiscent of the
Pinochet era in Chile, was defeated by an alliance of loyal officers and
civilian groups who mobilised spontaneously and successfully to demand
the return of their president.

The unexpected restoration of Chavez not only alerted the world to an
unusual leftwing, not to say revolutionary, experiment taking place in
Venezuela, but it also led the country's poor majority to understand
that they had a government and a president worth defending. Chavez was
able to dismiss senior officers opposed to his project of involving the
armed forces in programmes to help the poor, and removed the threat of a
further coup.

The second attempt at his overthrow - the prolonged work stoppage in
December 2002 which extended to a lockout at the state oil company,
Petroleos de Venezuela, nationalised since 1975 - also played into the
hands of the president. When the walkout (with its echoes of the
CIA-backed Chilean lorry owners' strike against Salvador Allende's
government in the early 1970s) failed, Chavez was able to sack the most
pampered sections of a privileged workforce. The company's huge surplus
oil revenues were redirected into imaginative new social programmes.
Innumerable projects, or missions, were established throughout the
country, recalling the atmosphere of the early years of the Cuban
revolution. They combat illiteracy, provide further education for school
dropouts, promote employment, supply cheap food, and extend a free
medical service in the poor areas of the cities and the countryside,
with the help of 10,000 Cuban doctors. Redundant oil company buildings
have been commandeered to serve as the headquarters of a new university
for the poor, and oil money has been diverted to set up Vive, an
innovative cultural television channel that is already breaking the
traditional US mould of the Latin American media.

The opposition dismiss the new projects as populist, a term
customarily used with pejorative intent by social scientists in Latin
America. Yet faced with the tragedy of extreme poverty and neglect in a
country with oil revenues to rival those of Saudi Arabia, it is
difficult to see why a democratically elected government should not
embark on crash programmes to help the most disadvantaged.

Their impact is about to be tested at the polls on August 15. Vote Yes
to eject Chavez from the presidency. Vote No to keep him there until
the next presidential election in 2006. The opposition, divided
politically and with no charismatic figure to rival Chavez to front
their campaign, continue to behave as though their victory is certain.
They discuss plans for a post-Chavez government, and watch closely the
ever-dubious and endlessly conflicting opinion polls, placing their
evaporating hopes on the don't knows. They still imagine fondly that
they can achieve a victory 

PartyBuilder - August 2004

2004-08-05 Thread Michael Hoover
PARTYBUILDER - August 2004
IN THIS ISSUE:
DC LABOR FILM FEST - AD DEADLINE AUGUST 10TH!
CNA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ROSE ANN DEMORO SPEAKS OUT ON HEALTH CARE
THE MEDICARE DRUG WAR
DO FAT CATS PAY LOWER TAX RATES THAN WORKERS?
FREE HIGHER ED CAMPAIGN NEWS

DC LABOR FILM FEST - AD DEADLINE AUGUST 10TH!
The 2004 DC Labor FilmFest is scheduled for September 10-12 at the
American Film Institute's Silver Theater. The festival opens with a 15th
anniversary screening of Michael Moore's first film, Roger and Me and
closes with a new print of the classic 1969 Marlon Brando film Burn!
In between are five brand new films chronicling coal miners in China
(Blind Shaft), a post-industrial, pre-apocalyptic, existential comedy
(Human Error) as well as the premiere of concert film Tell Us the
Truth. The November 2003 musical tour featuring Billy Bragg and Steve
Earle called attention to issues of media consolidation and trade
policy.

We need your support! It's not too late to support the FilmFest with an
ad from your union or organization in the Festival Guide.
Ad space is available at the following rates:
Friend of the Festival: $100
Quarter page: $250
Half page: $500
Full page: $1,000
Silver Screen Page: $2,500

Please call DJDI at 202 234-0040 x13 to reserve your ad.
Many thanks to our Labor Party affiliates and supporters for ads already
placed. For more information, click here:
www.djdinstitute.org/f_index.html

CNA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ROSE ANN DEMORO SPEAKS OUT ON HEALTH CARE
In a recent guest commentary in the Contra Costa Times, Rose Ann
DeMoro, executive director of the California Nurses Association (a Labor
Party affiliate) charges that it is time to get serious on health
care. DeMoro argues that Verbal commitments to universal health care
are for some a charade, a cover for tinkering with the current system to
avoid substantive change. Typical of such ideas is the notion that
people without employer-provided benefits be required to purchase
insurance, subsidized for the low income through tax credits, without
any financial contribution by the HMOs and insurance giants that would
reap gain. Read the full article at www.justhealthcare.org. Click here.


THE MEDICARE DRUG WAR
The pharmaceutical and managed care industries spent a record $141
million in 2003 to lobby Congress for last year's Medicare prescription
drug legislation. According to The Medicare Drug War, a new report by
Public Citizen, the new law may increase those industries' revenues by
as much as $531.5 billion. The army of 952 lobbyists (nearly 10 for each
U.S. Senator) helped ensure that the new drug benefit will be
administered by private companies. The new law expressly prohibits the
government from using its bargaining clout to negotiate lower prices and
effectively bans the reimportation of cheaper drugs from Canada. For
more information and to download the report, visit www.citizen.org.
Click here

DO FAT CATS PAY LOWER TAX RATES THAN WORKERS?
Thanks in part to George W. Bush's recent cut in the top tax rate on
dividends and capital gains, the average tax rate workers pay on wages
is more than DOUBLE the rate on investment income. According to Citizens
for Tax Justice (CTJ) and the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy
(ITEP), federal personal taxes on investment income now average only 9.6
percent, while federal personal taxes on wages and other earnings
average 23.4 percent. Before Ronald Reagan took office, the top income
tax rate on most investment income was 70 percent. The top capital gains
tax rate, now 15 percent, was more than 35 percent.

ITEP's analysis estimates that taxing investment income like earnings
would raise $338 billion in 2004 enough to cut this year's budget
deficit by two-thirds or more. Or enough to fund free higher education
several times over or enough to fund a substantial part of a Just Health
Care budget. For more information, www.ctj.org. Click here

FREE HIGHER ED CAMPAIGN NEWS
The July/August 2004 issue of ACADEME the bulletin of the American
Association of University Professors (AAUP) features the article Free
Higher Education by campaign co-chair Adolph Reed Jr. and Sharon
Syzmanski, an economist with the Labor Institute. The bulletin is
distributed to every member of the AAUP nationwide. The AAUP's
Collective Bargaining Congress has endorsed the Free Higher Ed campaign.


AAUP also invited Reed to present a workshop on the campaign at its
Summer Institute at the University of Scranton on July 31st. The
workshop was well received by AAUP members from around the country and
was an opportunity to introduce AAUP members outside the collective
bargaining section to our campaign. Visit our website at
www.freehighered.org

ABOUT THE LABOR PARTY
The Labor Party is a national organization made up of international
unions and thousands of local unions - representing over two million
workers - worker supportive organizations and individual members.
Founded in 1996 at a convention of 1,400 delegates, the Labor Party

Call for Papers: New Working Class Studies

2004-08-05 Thread Michael Hoover
CALL FOR PAPERS

NEW WORKING-CLASS STUDIES: PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE

The 10th Aniversary Conference of the Center for Working-Class Studies
at
Youngstown State University, May 18-21, 2005, Youngstown, Ohio

In 2005, the Center for Working-Class Studies will celebrate the 10th
anniversary of its founding.  In honor of that occasion, we are planning
a
conference that will reflect the diversity, creativity, and energy of
New
Working-Class Studies.  The conference will feature plenary sessions
reflecting on the development of the field, taking stock of where we
stand
today, and looking ahead to new possibilities and challenges.  Our
conferences always include arts exhibits, film screenings, poetry
readings,
and other events.  The 2005 conference, co-sponsored by the Ford
Foundation,
will also include a business meeting of the Working-Class Studies
Association.

We invite proposals from students, workers, faculty members, organizers,
artists, and activists in all fields, from literature to geography,
history
to filmmaking, union organizing to neighborhood activism.  Along with
papers, we invite performances, film showings, roundtables, and
presentations of all kinds.  In addition, we invite proposals for
three-hour
interactive workshops and field trips, which will be scheduled for
Saturday
morning.  We encourage proposals that explore literature by and about
the
working class; working-class and labor history; material and popular
culture; current workplace issues; geography and landscape; journalism
and
media; sociology; economics; union organizing and practice; museum
studies;
the arts; multiculturalism; ethnography, biography, autobiography;
pedagogy;
and personal narratives of work.

Presenters should describe the presentation they would like to give,
including the suggested presentation format (panel, roundtable, reading,
workshop, etc.) and length. Proposals should be no longer than one page
and
must be received by January 3, 2005.  Address written correspondence to
John
Russo, Biennial Conference, Center for Working-Class Studies, Youngstown
State University, Youngstown, Ohio 44555.  Fax or e-mail inquiries
shouldbe
sent to Patty LaPresta, (330) 941-4622 and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Center for Working-Class Studies's website is located at
http:/www.as.ysu.edu/-cwcs/ and its discussion group at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/04 12:28 AM 
I was struck by the same thing as Michael H.  I doubt that they will
reciprocate for
the Dems.

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 12:24:33AM -0400, Michael Hoover wrote:

 related point: tv media abandoned past convention coverage in giving
 reps so many opportunities to sprinkle on dem parade...michael
 hoover

Also, I have never heard of any competitive contest where you aim to
just get over
the hump.  Sounds like a stupid strategy.
Michael Perelman


meant to write in previous post that conservative media set up dems on
bounce by giving rep talking heads pre-convention opportunities to talk
about how kerry would probably get double digit post-convention bump...

re. dem/kerry strategy, elections are mechanisms of social control,
narrow kerry win
will actually be narrow bush loss, kerry's people think this can happen
with existing likely electorate which, of course, means doing nothing to
get more folks to vote, result will be few 'progressive' expectations of
kerry administration...michael hoover




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/04 3:52 PM 
If there's a great untapped reservoir of leftish populism in the
American masses, why did Kucinich do so badly in the primaries, and
why is Nader now down around 2%?
Doug

uhhh, who said anything about 'untapped reservoir of leftish populism'
(whatever that is)...

come now doug, you know answers to above questions...

however, 'conventional wisdom'  holds that dem positions on  civil
rights/civil liberties issues began to alienate white working class in
late 1960s, race ostensibly drove  wedge between white and non-white
working workers with resultant diminution of class voting, such analysis
is mostly based upon assessments using self-identified class, this
measure fails to address voter economic circumstances, analysis relying
upon relative income situation of voters reflects relative level of
resources folks have, results show increasing support among less
affluent for dems, differences in voting by income position (social
class) have been increasing, not decreasing...

mainstream poli sci guy jeffrey stonecash uses nes data - see his _class
and party in american politics_  - to show that *even in south* white
working class voters remain more likely to vote dem than more affluent
white voters, big problem is relative scarcity of white working class
turnout in south (condition exacerbated nationally by similar scarcity
at polls among all workin people)...michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


The Women of Crawford Have a Secret

2004-08-03 Thread Michael Hoover
http://www.bushvchoice.com/trailer/crawford.swf

Find out how these successful, driven women could swing the election
and help bring the end of a woman's right to choose -- without saying a
word.

Produced by:  NARAL Pro-Choice America, Inc.
www.ProChoiceAmerica.org



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: The Soviet empire was a drain on Moscow

2004-08-02 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/2/2004 11:16:33 AM 
Put another way, to label the U.S. and the USSR with the same label,
empire -- and hence to suggest that there is some analogy between
the
relationship USSR/Cuba and US/Puerto Rico -- is just too violent
an
abstraction, it leaves too little material content to what we mean
when
we speak of empire.
Carrol


paraphrase of what i wrote in 'secolas annals' (journal of southeastern
council on latin american studies) twenty years ago:

much was made of cuba's 'dependency' on soviet union...[but]...
cuban-soviet relations did not resemble typical dominance-dependence
arrangements, soviet aid strengthened rather than weakened cuba's
national control of its economy, further, soviets protected cuba from
fluctuations in world market prices of sugar and nickel, insured cuba
continual oil supplies, and generally stayed out of cuban political
affairs...
michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: No Bounce for Kerry

2004-08-02 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/04 6:22 PM 
No Bounce for Kerry:


bounce thing is extremely overrated, has had little relation to
electoral winner, if memory serves, with exception of clinton in 92,
candidates with biggest bounces have lost (and carter almost lost), most
have been dems...

in any event, room for bounce this year was negligible if poll numbers
can be believed,
bush, kerry, nader numbers leave few undecideds...

kerry people appear to believe that they can beat bush (just barely) on
issues except for 'security', poll numbers going into convention
indicated solid bush lead in that area, dems seem to think that if they
simply say things about 'making 'america stronger', 'protecting
homeland', and 'destroying terrorists' enough times they will whittle
away at bush in this area (all the while blathering on about kerry's
wartime mettle, blah, blah, blah)...

strategy suggests that kerry people hope to barely make it over hump in
november,
strategy also conveys that kerry campaign is absent any other appeals,
has attractiveness of flagpole sitting in drawing attention to drab
man...

related point: tv media abandoned past convention coverage in giving
reps so many opportunities to sprinkle on dem parade...michael
hoover




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


book review: Welfare and the Constitution

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Hoover
From the Law and Politics Book Review

WELFARE AND THE CONSTITUTION, by Sotirios A. Barber. Princeton, New
Jersey: Princeton University Press, 2004. 184pp. Cloth  $27.95 / £17.95.
ISBN: 0-691-11448-X
Reviewed By Ronald Kahn, Department of Politics, Oberlin College.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bsos.umd.edu/gvpt/lpbr/subpages/reviews/barber704.htm

--
Please Note: 
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees 
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request. 
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Socialism of fools

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/04 12:10 PM 
I recently quoted Fred Engels as referring to anti-semitism as the
socialism of fools.
 Pen-l alumnus Jurriaan Bendien writes me that: From memory the
socialism of fools remark was by August Bebel, circa 1873.
 I guess I sit corrected, though I couldn't find the quote from Bebel's
mouth.
 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


above is one of those quotes that floats around, that people cite and
never indicate source, few folks probably have any idea its origins and
many/most who reference it have probably never read it in english as i
don't believe text has ever been translated from the german...

phrase is from 10/27/1893 party congress speech that bebel made (think
it appears in german as 'anti-semitism and social democracy'), what
bebel termed 'socialism of fools' was specific reference to
*anti-semitic populism*, bebel's speech is essentially about SPD having
to make choice between urban working class and rural peasantry, he
favored former and congress overwhelmingly voted that way, one
consequence was that party would become increasingly detached from rural
population, bebel's position is pretty conventional marxist
interpretation of 'progressive tendency' of capitalist development...
michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Socialism of fools

2004-07-31 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/04 7:59 PM 
above is one of those quotes that floats around, that people cite and
never indicate source, few folks probably have any idea its origins and
many/most who reference it have probably never read it in english as i
don't believe text has ever been translated from the german...

phrase is from 10/27/1893 party congress speech that bebel made (think
it appears in german as 'anti-semitism and social democracy'), what
bebel termed 'socialism of fools' was specific reference to
*anti-semitic populism*, bebel's speech is essentially about SPD having
to make choice between urban working class and rural peasantry, he
favored former and congress overwhelmingly voted that way, one
consequence was that party would become increasingly detached from rural
population, bebel's position is pretty conventional marxist
interpretation of 'progressive tendency' of capitalist development...
michael hoover


oops, my source for above is nicholas stargardt's _the german idea of
militarism : radical and socialist critics, 1866-1914_...  mh




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Kerry's a better choice for some conservatives

2004-07-30 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/04 11:32 PM 
Dan Scanlan wrote:
 The Right Wing's Deep, Dark Secret
Some hope for a Bush loss, and here's why
   By John Micklethwait and Adrian Wooldridge

We (people, leftists, left liberals) made significant gains under Nixon
(despite his intentions) because we had behind us the threatening mass
movements of the '60s.
Leftists _must_ break, permanently and unambiguously, all ties to the DP
-- and this includes the leftists of the DP (Wellstone, Obama,
Hightower), who achieve nothing for us except symbolic gestures but
provide cover for the party's left flank.
Carrol


come on, 'we' have chance in 04 to return 'liberal' jfk to prez, surely
you recall last time he was in office - civil rights advocate, pro
labor, tax wealthy - oh wait, he didn't actually initiate legal action
in any antidiscrimination cases, he appointed segregationists to federal
bench, he offered little help to civil rights activists attacked - and
killed - by racists, he opposed increases in minimum wage, he sought to
constrain wage demands by unions, he opposed reducing work week, he
presided over tax cuts for rich and corporations...

back to yesterday with jfk...   michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Staying the course

2004-07-29 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/04 7:18 PM 
The London Telegraph July 29, 2004
Kerry 'will not change foreign policy'
By David Rennie in Boston
America's allies expecting a shift in United States foreign policy from
a President John Kerry should think again, his top advisers said
yesterday.


surely above surprises no one, after all, last time the guy was prez he
initiated massive military spending increase, introduced
counterinsurgency operations throughout third world, invaded post-revo
cuba, accelerated weapons of mass destruction race, expanded u.s. role
in vietnam, oh wait, that was john f. kennedy,
not john f. kerry, guess i got jfks mixed up, and here i've been
wondering for sometime about that 22nd amendment term limits thing...
michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Diminishing Expectations

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/04 8:37 AM 
Michael Hoover wrote:

 but
 conversations here indicate that we sure do live in the age of
 diminishing expectations, which in itself gives people fewer reasons
 to spend time on political activism.

above was yoshie...

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: The Blind Swordsman Zatoichi

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/04 11:42 AM 
In Hollywood, the blind are represented in film either as pitiful
victims, such as in Wait Until Dark, or as comic figures like Mr.
Muckle, who tears apart W. C. Fields's shop in It's a Gift. Leave it
to the Japanese to come up with somebody like Zatoichi, the blind master
swordsman who was played by the beloved Shintaro Katsu in 26 films
between 1962 and 1989, as well as 100 television episodes based on the
character.
.

check out 'zatoichi meets the one armed swordsman' (71 or 72) directed
by kimiyoshi yasuda who directed several zatoichi films...

the one armed swordsman of film is jimmy wang yu from chang cheh's 67
film of same name, here's what lisa odham stokes and i write about
chang's film in _city on fire_:

Chang Cheh's One Armed Swordsman (1967) is generally acknowledged as the
movie
that launched the 1970s' martial arts phenomenon [in hong kong].  While
the film's title announces that this is a swordplay movie - nothing new
in itself - the hero's disability (his sifu's jealous daughter has
chopped off his right arm) produces a different type of character.
Forced to undergo a strict and tough rehabilitative training program,
the protagonist (Jimmy Wang Yu) becomes a 'lean mean fighting machine'
with a blade.  Notably brutal for its time, Chang's picture ushered in
an era of the self-reliant individualist that according to [noted hk
film critic] Sek Kei, simultaneously destroyed the image of the weak
Chinese male by featuring 'beefcake heroes in adventure and violence.'
(p. 91)

in 'zatoichi meets the one armed swordsman, wang yu's character travels
to japan where he intervenes to prevent a young boy's execution and has
a bounty placed upoin him, meanwhile, the young boy's dying father's
last wish is for shintaro katsu's blind swordsman to care for his son,
communication difficulties between the two swordsmen lead to them
fighting one another...

trivia: tsui hark's 'the blade (95) is a remake of chang's 'one armed
swordsman' by way of a detour through wong kar-wai's 'ashes of time (94)
in which tony leung ka-fai plays a blind swordsman...

finally: blind swordsman films inspired 71 entitled 'deaf mute heroine'
directed by wu ma, one of number of hk martial arts films featuring
women...   michael hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: The Blind Swordsman Zatoichi

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/04 5:38 PM 
finally: blind swordsman films inspired 71 entitled 'deaf mute heroine'
directed by wu ma, one of number of hk martial arts films featuring
women...   michael hoover

neglected to mention that helen ma had lead role in above...  mh



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Facing South/July 27, 2004

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
F A C I N G   S O U T H
July 27, 2004 * Issue 85


INSTITUTE INDEX * Elections at Risk
Number of felons purged from Florida's voter lists in the 2000 elections: 173,000
Number that weren't felons and were wrongfully barred from voting: 50,000
Number of felons Florida had planned to remove from voter rolls in 2004: 47,000
Number on list that are African-American: 22,000
Number on list that have been granted clemency and shouldn't be on the list: 2,100
Percent of Florida's African-American population that live in counties with the most 
unreliable voting machines: 53
Number of presidential votes lost due to election system failures in 2000, in 
millions: 4 to 6
Sources on file at the Institute for Southern Studies.
 _  

DATELINE: THE SOUTH * Top Stories Around the Region

ALL EYES ON FLORIDA ELECTIONS
Just weeks after defending both the quality and secrecy of a list of 47,000 suspected 
felons to be purged from Florida voting lists, the state's elections office is now 
scrambling to explain why the list was so flawed that it had to be scrapped. Among 
other findings, reporters discovered that the list only contained the names of 61 
Hispanics, who tend to vote Republican, despite the fact that Hispanics make up 11% of 
the prison population. (Palm Beach Post, 7/24)
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/auto/epaper/editions/today/news_1410ed51d432d15200dc.html
*** RELATED: New law adds hurdle to ex-felon voting in Florida
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/072404Z.shtml

40 YEARS LATER, FREEDOM MOVEMENT VETERANS GET RESPECT
Forty years ago this summer, the Democratic Party convention was rocked by the 
spectacle of the party clashing over whether to seat white segregationists or 
integrated freedom fighters from Mississippi. This year in Boston, a delegation of 
Misssissippi movement veterans be honored at the Democratic National Convention. (New 
York Times, 7/25/04)
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/072604E.shtml

OIL REFINERIES USE CLOUT TO HOLD OFF REGULATION
Petroleum is not just the nation's No. 1 source of energy. Refineries are often the 
lifeblood of many communities. With battalions of top-gun lawyers and lobbyists, they 
have influenced the nation's energy policy and fought regulatory crackdowns on 
pollution. And their political action committees pump millions of dollars into the 
coffers of powerful elected leaders in Washington. (Star-Telegram, 7/19)
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/9189098.htm?1c

LEADER OF GOP SENATE EFFORT OUTED
The man heading up the effort by Republicans to keep control of the United States 
Senate is the latest gay politico to be outed by local activists, who claim they are 
pointing to the hypocrisy of a party that opposes gay rights but has many gay leaders. 
The director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee who works for Virginia 
Sen. George Allen declined tocomment on efforts to publicize his sexual orientation. 
(Washington Blade, 7/23)
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2004/7-23/news/national/leaderout.cfm

THE LEGACY OF THE RAINBOW
20 years ago, progressives were electrified by the candidacy of Jesse Jackson, whose 
campaign registered millions of new voters and created a multi-racial coalition in a 
bid for the Democratic Party nomination in 1984 and 1988. What's the legacy of the 
Rainbow Coalition? (The Nation, 7/15)
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040802s=wypijewski

CRUNK DOMINATES THE AIRWAVES
Hip-hop from Dixie has been ascendant for years, but a glance at the Billboard charts 
reveals that the lurching beats and bellowed choruses of Southern crunk have become 
2004's defining pop sound. But what is it? (Slate, 7/20)
http://slate.msn.com/id/2103955/

--
Please Note: 
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees 
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request. 
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Proposal to Up Minimum Wage Makes Florida Fall Ballot

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Hoover
Proposal To Up The Minimum Wage Makes Florida Fall Ballot

POSTED: 6:14 pm EDT July 27, 2004
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- A proposed constitutional amendment to create a
state
minimum wage that starts at $6.15 and is tied to inflation made the
November ballot Tuesday when it cleared the signature threshold.

The federal minimum wage, which hasn't changed in seven years, is $5.15.

The minimum wage citizen's initiative has more than 531,000 verified
signatures, according to the state Division of Elections. That's more
than
the 488,722 required of petition drives to make the ballot.

The measure is backed by the national group ACORN, which has pushed for
higher wages in cities across the country. Sponsors collected more than
900,000 signatures in their campaign.

The state Supreme Court had already given the measure the go-ahead for
the
ballot, finding it was clearly explained in its ballot title and summary
and dealt with only one subject.

Four other proposed constitutional amendments are already on the ballot.

One would open the door to a future parental notice law dealing with
teen
abortions and one would allow South Florida voters to decide if they
want
to permit slots at race tracks and jai-alai frontons.


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-27 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/04 4:19 PM 
Michael Hoover wrote:
responses to my initial post conveyed, by and large, varying degrees
of maximalism, making quantitative leap from my modest suggestion
all the way to presidential electoral politics (by such measures
*all attempts will fail), pervasive problem imo...

The questions of what we can do to improve local governance and what
we can do to change national politics shouldn't be put in terms of
minimalist vs. maximalist programs, I believe, because it is not the
case that you can make even minimal changes in foreign policy by
taking the city halls.  Even if the Green Party were to succeed in
electing Green mayors in all cities in the United States, for
instance, an impact of such a dramatic change in local politics on US
foreign policy won't be even minimalist -- it will be practically
zero.
The thing is that it is possible for us to make a lot more changes
for better at the local level either by building the Green Party, or
taking over local Democratic parties, or pursuing some other measures
(we have viable tactics and successful models of various sorts here,
lacking only in enough activists willing to put in time and energy),
and we should be doing what we can, but taking on national politics
is qualitatively (rather than quantitatively) different from working
on local politics, and here we can use some innovative ideas.
Yoshie


have been away from computers for several days and this thread has gone
bye bye, in any event, comment above re. greens electing green mayors in
all u.s. cities is itself maximalist, such thing would never happen and
one could make persuasive case that it wouldn't be good idea anyway, but
were this to miraculously occur, national and international u.s.
politics would be qualitatively different as one would not happen
without other...   michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-27 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/04 6:14 PM 
The reason I don't push for working through local Democratic
parties is that the Green Party has already shown that it can elect
its own candidates for local offices, so why bother trying the second
best now?
But, all the arguments in favor of concentrating on local politics
that are advanced now here and elsewhere, I think, come with a
subtext: you, leftists, had better work on only local issues like
zoning -- leave big national and international issues like war and
peace to the Democratic Party, because you can't win presidency
immediately anyway.
To the contrary, war years are especially important years when
leftists need to make interventions in national politics, including
mounting electoral challenges through presidential elections.  The
question is how exactly to do that effectively, knowing that our
candidate won't become the next POTUS.
Yoshie


i've not suggested working through local dem branches as such nor
working only on local issues...   michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-27 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/27/04 11:17 PM 
Presumably, leftists who follow your suggestion will be working on
local issues first of all till they succeed in wresting the control
of the Democratic Party at the state level.

At 9:10 PM -0400 7/27/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
greens electing green mayors in all u.s. cities is itself maximalist

That's more of a figure of speech than anything else, but
conversations here indicate that we sure do live in the age of
diminishing expectations, which in itself gives people fewer reasons
to spend time on political activism.
--
Yoshie

re. localism and diminishing expectatons, nothing i've posted here
points to either,
no one's going to pursue it anyway...   michael hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Democratic Party 527's

2004-07-27 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/27/04 11:59 AM 

was expecting to read about jet airplanes given post header, and then to
find out that  rob reiner was not among leading contributors to 527
orgs, well, my disappointment runneth over...  michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/04 3:29 AM 
I don't think that it was worth leftists' time to fight to have
Howard Dean nominated, as Dean's agenda in some crucial respects
(especially on Iraq) went against leftists', but, supposing that
there were left-of-center liberal folks who really, really, wanted to
nominate him as the Democratic presidential candidate, it's now clear
that it takes much more than internet communication to win in the
caucuses and primaries.
Besides, the MoveOn model is strictly one-way communication from the
center to the margins (unlike the Dean model), far more centralized
and undemocratic than any other organization on the left side of the
political spectrum.

And there is a reason why reforms and mobilizations did not last
beyond Washington's death.

The US-style electoral system strongly acts against party-building,
but it's better to have a political party like the Green Party than a
Washington-style campaign, which is doomed to remain in one location
and destined to die with the person with whom mobilization is
inseparably associated.
--
Yoshie

agree re. leftists trying to get dean nominated which has nothing to do
with suggestion i made several days ago, agree also re. moveon although
democratic character of lots of groups generally is debatable...

as for what happened in chicago following washington's death, there's
not *a* reason why things turned, there's bunch of them incuding:
racism, daley machine,
Washington's death re-opened bitter struggle among various  political
factions and activists, movement (which is what was happening rather
than personal-style campaign) might not have succeeded anyway given
competitive character of 'global  city' that literally responds to
dictates of global capital markets  *and/or* dominance of urban 'growth
machine'...

i previously indicated that example was partial and pointed out as well
that washington role was problem for long run (in short run, he helped
hold some things and folks together), attempt should be judged on basis
of what it was able to accomplish in brief time under very trying
circumstances and for its potential (among other things, independent
political party was being organized)...

responses to my initial post conveyed, by and large, varying degrees of
maximalism,
making quantitative leap from my modest suggestion all the way to
presidential electoral politics (by such measures *all attempts will
fail), pervasive problem imo...

think i'll leave it at that, michael hoover (checking in for last time
from ann arbor
where i ran into al haber - an sds founder - the other day, he's trying
to rekindle sds as 'students' for dem society on one hand, seniors for
dem society on other)

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Query: Ford/General Motors

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Hoover
what is progressive economist take on ford and general motors releasng
info the other day indicating that each only made profits from
credit/lending operations...
michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 3:07 AM 
I think if you really wanted to take over the state, you'd be better off
with a state-wide IRV campaign.  Probably equally doomed, but at least
the
interim incentives would make more sense: you'd build up an organization
outside their grasp that could affect the media and politics
independently.  This is basically how people passed the term-limits
laws.
IRV would be more useful: it would really allow you to develop small
principled parties that could grow until they won, and which would have
an
effect on the political discourse from the beginning.
Michael


term limits 'movement' movers  shakers were closely associated with rep
party, have read that modern-era notion (term limits idea has long
history, pre-american revolution colonial and early republican-era u.s.
state legislatures were commonly term limited) was hatched by paul
weyrich and his free congress committee or foundation or whatever its
called, number of term limits orgs were republican front groups...

while '95 u.s. supreme court decision stating that limits for congress
could only be imposed via u.s. constitutional amendment, not by
individual states upon their own delegations, doesn't seem coincidence
that wind began running out of term limits sails when rep party gained
controlled of congress...  michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 1:19 PM 
I think maybe I've over-interpreted your question.  I seem to be going a
level of specficity beyond what you're looking for.  If all you meant to
ask was is it useful for lefties to engage in electoral politics with
some of their energies? then my answer's yes, and we have no more
argument.  I thought you were talking about the relative merits of
specific strategies -- becoming Democrats, trying to become the dominant
Democrats, launching a third party, going half and half (the fusion
strategy), working as outside pressure groups, fighting to change the
electoral rules, etc.
Michael


my modest suggestion was about folks looking into their local dem
executive committees, for example,  i live in orange county, florida,
most precincts have no dem workers at all, comittee chair positions ae
vacant...

my experience in working with local dems years ago is that they want
everything their way, can recall going to local executive committee for
support/endorsement of activities/projects such as trying to save
african-american school building that had been abandoned by school board
during 70s desegregation (circumstance repeated throughout south) and
they were sympathetic - typical liberal crap - but could really see
nothing in it for them, executive council members only see things in
terms of potential voters and really had little use for much else see
nothing (which is understandable from their narrow perspective and also
politically useless)...

i also worked on a couple of campaigns at that time for 'progressive'
candidates shunned by local dem committee, matter might have been
different had there been slate of such candidates (which i argued for
and was never able to convince enough people to pursue) and if committee
was comprised of like-minded folks...

point - in my mind - would certainly not be to become dems as such but
to maybe create some tension within local dem organizational structures
and, perhaps, try tu use those structures a bit, people could continue
to focus on/do whatever activities they're already working on and they
could agitate amongst local dem 'leadership' groups as well...   michael
hoover








--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/22/04 8:26 AM 
I'm asking if anyone will be doing it, because it's not a new idea,
and a lot of people -- from famous guys like Michael Moore to local
activists -- have proposed exactly the same thing, but they never do
it themselves, much less try to make it a nationwide effort (to do
the latter, you need a solid nationwide organization that exists
outside electoral politics -- otherwise, no coordination among local
attempts).
In any event, the Green Party has proven that it is possible to elect
a lot of third-party city council persons, aldermen, and even a
number of mayors:
http://www.feinstein.org/greenparty/electeds.html.  It can continue
to elect more of them, and it will probably be able to make inroads
into statehouses by doing more of the same.  The GP organizing has
worked at local levels.  The idea that we need is how to make the GP
a political party that can elect its candidates to the highest levels
of national political offices: representatives, senators, governors,
and president.
Yoshie


as i mentioned in earlier post on this matte and as anyone who has ever
attended such meeting will testfiy, county party executive committees
meetings can be dreadfully boring (as can meetings of all stripes,
obviously) and one can't miss too many of them in order to retain
membership...

i posted list of reasons why i think that few people want to have a go
at it and my own experience suggests that folks i'd like to see engaged
see it as too 'establishment'...

partial example of what i've been trying to get at: harold washington's
brief time as chicago mayor in the mid-1980s remains important because
what emerged was a potentially powerful dialectical relationship between
politicians and movement, politicos in downtown 'suites' were emboldened
by activsts in neighorhood 'streets', political mobilization and
organization operated 'outside of government' yet were linked
'organically'' to it worked to embolden policymakers. Results were,
admittedly,
limited (but achieved in face of white-dominated city council and under
scrutiny of white local media), but included some shifting power and
resources to neighborhoods (including creating neighborhood coops),
fostering further mobilization of previously inactive folks
(neighborhood orgs could review all city economic development programs
and submit economic assistance proposals), and attempting some
redistribution towards lower-income individuals/groups (considere no-no
for municipal gov't because spending on the poor requires higher local
taxes that are unattractive to potential investors), things imploded in
aftermath of washington's (not necessarily my idea of appealing
politician but that's not point)untimely death...

was underwhelmed by list of elected green party members, most had no
links to them, number of links to some who did were apparently broken,
and most sites i was able to access made no mention that folks were
green party members, most offices held are probably nonpartisan with
respect to ballot but i'd have thought these people would want to
highlight/promote green party and their membership in it at their
websites, no indication of concerted party efforts but rather individual
candidates running conventional campaigns that have little real
connection to one another (nothing wrong with this but not indication of
party growth/strength)...
michael hoover (who has probably posted too much on this topic at this
juncture)




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Beeps, Peeps, Veeps, Creeps

2004-07-21 Thread Michael Hoover
charles curtis, george dallas, john garner, garrett hobart, richard
johnson, william king, thomas marshall, levi morton, daniel thompson,
william wheeler, henry wilson...

control of vp running mate set by fdr at 1940 dem convention, prior to
that time prez nominees generally did not express preference re. who vp
candidate should be (william jenings bryan called this careful neglect
or some such phrase)...

fdr decided that he wanted to dump john garner (who said vp position
wasn't worth pitcher of warm spit), fdr failed to convince  secretary of
state cordell hull to accept nomination, fdr forced convention to accept
henry wallace vy threatening  to resign presidency otherwise...

in 84, walter mondale became first prez candidate to announce running
mate (geraldine ferraro) prior to convention, all dem candidates since
then have folowed suit - dukakis in 88 with  (lloyd 'I i knew jack
kennedy, i served with jack kennedy senator [quayle] you're no jack
kennedy'), clinton (gore) in 92, Gore (lieberman) in 2000, and now kerry
with edwards..

as for rep candidates, only dole (kemp) and bush the second (cheney)
have announced early...

kerry's timing conceivably of interest, others who went public early did
so just a few days before party conventions, kerry breaks record bigtime
by advancing announcement three weeks, indication of weakness imo (lame
attempt by lame candidate to get some news coverage)...   michael hoover






--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Beeps, Peeps, Veeps, Creeps

2004-07-21 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 12:55 PM 
charles curtis, george dallas, john garner, garrett hobart, richard
johnson, william king, thomas marshall, levi morton, daniel thompson,
william wheeler, henry wilson...


following somehow deleted from above message: these are among names that
roll off people's tongues when they talk (as so many do) about
vice-prez's... mh


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-21 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/04 7:52 PM 
Daniel Davies wrote:
I'd be *very* careful how one went about this.  It feels like entryism,
and
the experience of the (UK) Labour Party in the 1980s suggests that the
'mainstream' Dems would react to it very badly indeed (by which I mean
that
this, if it didn't work, would be the *end* of friendly relationships
between the US Left (S.A.I.I) and the Democratic Party.

We're not talking about people like Militant I hope. Our Trots
wouldn't touch the DP with a 10-ft pole. (On this question, even some
ex-Trots carry on the tradition, suggesting that membership is that
community is a lot like the Party of the Right, for life at least.)
We're talking about Nader voters, Greens, liberal Dems, etc. Of
course that they lack the discipline of Militant they'll get chewed
up quickly by the DP machinery.
Doug


interesting that someone referred to militant tendency/labour, i put
'entryism' in scare quotes in followup post to my suggestion re. dem
county executive councils, was curious if anyone would comment as
such...

but my suggestion really differs from uk experience, no 'party within
party' stuff...

there is no dem party machinery in orblando...   michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-21 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 3:07 AM 
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Doug Henwood wrote:
 maybe the three million or so people who voted for nader in 2000
should
 take control of local democratic executive committees, use structure
in
 place to recruit candidates, slag off on dems who suck, use available
 funds to issue policy statements and press releases one after
another,
 show up at public and government meetings, control of county dem
 mechanisms might lead to control of state dem parties...

 This sounds like a very good idea, or at least one worth trying.
What's
 the argument against it?

There are two basically: one, it's impossible, and two, you won't be
able
to do anything with it.  The reason is that the incentives are all on
the
other side and that all state party machines are collusive.
In New York City, where you and I live, nothing short of the
governorship
would allow us to accomplish anything in the state worth doing.  Lower
level success would allow you to make symbolic gestures which by and
large
have already been made in our home town, from domestic partnership to
living wage law to declarations against the war and patriot act.
I think if you really wanted to take over the state, you'd be better off
with a state-wide IRV campaign.  Probably equally doomed, but at least
the
interim incentives would make more sense: you'd build up an organization
outside their grasp that could affect the media and politics
independently.  This is basically how people passed the term-limits
laws.
IRV would be more useful: it would really allow you to develop small
principled parties that could grow until they won, and which would have
an
effect on the political discourse from the beginning.
Michael


another of michael pollak's well-reasoned posts, you've offered number
of specific obstacles re. new york (factors relevant to other locales as
well), in some ways, however, your example can be used in support of
above suggestion which was assumed nation-wide effort (there are 3000
counties in us, most have dem/rep executive councils serving as
'structural' foundation of respective parties)...

florida dems dominated state politics until last couple of decades, but
there was really no party as such, ambitious individuals decided to run,
put together their own campaign org, raised their own money, in number
of ways, state was ahead of the curve re. 'candidate-centered'
elections...

neither of two major parties in u.s. are 'mass'' organizations,
membershp in many places consists several 'activists' who function as
local executive committee and who recruit 'activists' to help party
candidate campaigns, self-selected candidates often don't care whether
they get local party support or not (and sometimes prefer not), surely
progressive/left folks can do better than this with whatever shell of an
organization exists...   michael hoover






--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-21 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 8:41 AM 
An argument against it?  You would actually try it yourself if it
were really a good idea.
Yoshie

nah, doug's a journalist, he'd write about it...  michael hoover

A person who puts forward a proposal should be prepared to act on it.
Otherwise, others will simply conclude that, if the idea is not even
worth the proposer's time, then, it's not worth their time either.
--
Yoshie


people do different things, as for doug, he's a reporter (he may think
of himself in other terms), i've indicated number of times in past
impact that i think this has on his perspective re. certain things, but
above conclusion is not necessarily one of them, in any event, i made
suggestion (hesitate to call it proposal) not him...  michael hoover
(who has actually attended local dem ex com meetings)


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Not a dime's worth of difference

2004-07-21 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 10:44 AM 

louis, re. post header: not a dime's worth of difference, have you
changed your mind since below appeared as part of earlier post a few
months ago:
Glick is basically mounting a false polemic. He characterizes radicals
in the Debs and Malcolm X tradition as having the same outlook as
expressed in George Wallace's pithy observation that there's not a
dime's worth of difference between the two parties. In reality, this is

not our view at all. If there were not substantive differences between
the two parties, the system would collapse.

i've always thought that wallace's assertion was incorrect, there's at
least a quarter's worth of difference between 2 major parties...

wallace's 'insurgent' 68 campaign resulted in 12-13% of 'popular' vote
and served as basis for 'southern strategy'' that rep party would use
quite successfully, kevin
phillips was nixon adviser that year and his book _the emerging
republican majority' released a year later argued for going after white
southern and white suburban vote...

assumption was that wallace took votes from nixon rather than humphrey
despite fact that wallace and humphrey were both dems, that nixon would
have won two-candidate race between himself and humphrey by larger than
the 45-43% margin in three person race...  michael hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-20 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/19/04 6:29 PM 
Michael Hoover wrote:
maybe the three million or so people who voted for nader in 2000
should
take control of local democratic executive committees, use structure
in
place to recruit candidates, slag off on dems who suck, use available
funds to issue policy statements and press releases one after another,
show up at public and government meetings, control of county dem
mechanisms might lead to control of state dem parties...

This sounds like a very good idea, or at least one worth trying.
What's the argument against it?

Doug

An argument against it?  You would actually try it yourself if it
were really a good idea.
Yoshie


nah, doug's a journalist, he'd write about it...  michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-20 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/19/04 3:33 PM 
Michael Hoover wrote:

maybe the three million or so people who voted for nader in 2000 should
take control of local democratic executive committees, use structure in
place to recruit candidates, slag off on dems who suck, use available
funds to issue policy statements and press releases one after another,
show up at public and government meetings, control of county dem
mechanisms might lead to control of state dem parties...

This sounds like a very good idea, or at least one worth trying.
What's the argument against it?
Doug


in no particular order: dem party is thoroughly and hopelessly
capitalist, with some exceptions, dem party has dishonorable past, some
left folks' preference for 'resistance' and 'struggle', would be too
hard to accomplish (not to mention, really boring),
inevitable/inexorable march of socialism, folks misunderstand marx re.
'parliamentary cretinism' and 'executive of modern state as committee
for managing common affairs of whole bourgeoisie', incompatible with
lifestyle things, better to encourage people to read marx/lenin/whomever
and join one of numerous alphabet soup vanguard party comprised of ten
and hundred of comrabes, red badge of being 'the opposition',
dislike/fear of success, preference for whining instead of winning,
activism (at least some of what passes for it) would lose character of
surrogacy for psychotherapy...michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-20 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/19/04 10:37 PM 
First, all three million do not exist in the same locality.  Secondly, a
large number who voted for Nader then now are happily reunited with
friends
inside the regular Democratic Party.  Thirdly, fat chance of getting the
national party to change anything, or even state parties.  Remember the
Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party?  Fourthly, the Democratic Party is
not
an industrial union, like the UAW or UMW, and even there and then
independent workers organizations had to be, and will have to be again,
constructed against the established leadership.   Need I continue?


no idea who lister responsible for above is but:

that 3m don't live in same locality is basic point, that certain
left-celebs have signed onto anyone but bush/kerry means only that those
left-celebs have done so, reference to miss freedom dem party is
msplaced given it was singular attempt
rather than across-board - er, nation - one (btw: wouldn't take 3m
people, used number bit facetiously), this form of 'entryism' would - by
definition - be opposed
to established leadership...

again, nothing may well come of it...

heighten the contradictions man , michael hoover

ps: thanks for link to milo reno papers, brief bio was bit helpful, have
since
stumbled across book about farm holiday assn by a john shover, _cornbelt
rebellion: the famers' holiday association'...


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: [Fwd: Swans' Release: July 19, 2004]

2004-07-19 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/18/04 5:23 PM 
Michael wrote:
i've a hunch that some left interest in nader is reflection of
absence of actual left alternatives, as panelist at forum i attended
in ann arbor said yesterday: 'he's best known option, lousy way to
develop actual left alternative...

I think that those who are seriously interested in building a
movement and political party capable of challenging the bipartisan
consensus on the domestic and foreign policy ought to be able to
think beyond the specific positive and negative attributes of Ralph
Nader as an individual and think about who (among Green Party
leaders, rank-and-file Green Party members, non-Green Party members,
etc.) is supporting him and why, what we can do to work with them,
and so on.
Yoshie


some will, perhaps, pooh-pooh following as not serious but - imo -
neither movements nor parties are built via campaigns for prez, too much
time/effort/use of too limited resources, amount/kind of attention that
nader gets (which is result of name recognition, not due to green
party/ideas)  will not contribute to either task, important green
*party* work is down ballot if at all...

nader received almost 3 million votes last time, will probably receive
less this time
for number of reasons, but those 3 million folks (and others who voted
for various left alternatives in 2000) would make bigger statement by
turning out en masse to a kerry inauguration with one statement - 'we're
on your ass' (pelt his motorcade with 3 million eggs)...   michael
hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-19 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/18/04 7:51 PM 
I don't think that the League of Pissed Off Voters, aka the League of
Independent Voters, goes anywhere by itself, but seen as a part of a
larger phenomenon, it's interesting.
On one hand, it's an indication of how embarrassing it has become to
make a straightforward argument for John Kerry or the Democratic
Party in general, among thinking young persons especially, so the
Democratic operatives have to come up with a face-saving cover that
lets them believe that they are still independent, albeit they will
be voting and working for John Kerry.
Yoshie


will rogers said something to effect that he wasn't a member of any
party, he was a democrat...

maybe the three million or so people who voted for nader in 2000 should
take control of local democratic executive committees, use structure in
place to recruit candidates, slag off on dems who suck, use available
funds to issue policy statements and press releases one after another,
show up at public and government meetings, control of county dem
mechanisms might lead to control of state dem parties...

maybe nothing would happen, but maybe there would be crisis of hegemony
in dem party, existing national/state dem 'leaders' might have to react,
maybe they'd play their hand and decide to decertify local executive
councils run by leftists/ progressives, so dem party could become
something different from what it is today or it might be be destroyed,
either outcome would be ok...michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-19 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/19/04 3:52 PM 
 Michael Hoover:
 will rogers said something to effect that he wasn't a member of any
 party, he was a democrat...

when I quoted this, I was corrected: he wasn't a member of any
_organized_ party.


i stand (actually, i'm sitting) corrected...

 maybe the three million or so people who voted for nader in
 2000 should
 take control of local democratic executive committees, use
 structure in
 place to recruit candidates, slag off on dems who suck,

all of them? then who's left?
jd


who's/whose left now...  michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Venture Communism (Robert Owen)

2004-07-19 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/19/04 8:50 AM 
Hazlitt's essay on Robert Owen is quite fun:
http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Essays/Hazlitt/Political/Owen.htm
there's also a rather good museum in New Lanark these days which makes
an
attractive daytrip if you're ever stuck in Glasgow.
I occasionally find myself thinking that Owen and the pre-Engels British
Socialists are probably worth another look, but have always been put off
by
the teetotal tendency which one tends to find there.
dd

tawney's _the radical tradition_ includes brief essay on owen that is
worth looking at...   michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: The real spoilers: Kerry and Edwards

2004-07-18 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/17/04 8:26 AM 
NY Times, July 17, 2004
No Poll Boost From Edwards
By RICHARD W. STEVENSON and JANET ELDER
WASHINGTON, July 16 - Senator John Edwards is viewed far more favorably
than unfavorably by Americans in the aftermath of his introduction as
Senator John Kerry's running mate, and the intensity of feeling for Mr.
Kerry has deepened, among his backers in the presidential race,
according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
But naming Mr. Edwards did not immediately win over any substantial
number of voters for the Democratic ticket, and the campaign between Mr.
Kerry and President Bush remains statistically deadlocked as Mr. Kerry
heads toward the Democratic convention and his best opportunity to make
a strong impression on the country, the poll found.


that vp candidates make little difference in election seems truism,
public opinion polls generally support assumption as only small
percentages tend to say that vp nominees will influence their
presidential vote choice...

mainstream poli sci people have found that at aggregate-level, vp
candidates have no influence, they bring national ticket neither home
state or regional advantage, however, there is some indication that at
Individual-level, one's evaluation of vp nominees may have bit of
influence on presidential vote-choice, more importantly,
vp candidate choice may 'deepen intensity' even among leaners/possible
voters of a presidential candidate and this appears produced increased
likelihood that some vote who might otherwise stay at home...   michael
hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-18 Thread Michael Hoover
There are Democrats, and there are shamefaced Democrats, and the
League of Pissed Off Voters is set up to appeal to the latter.
When you look at their website http://indyvoter.org/, it uses two
names alternately: the League of Pissed Off Voters and the League
of Independent Voters.
The League of Pissed Off Voters just had its national convention
http://indyvoter.org/article.php?id=72 at the Ohio State University
in Columbus, Ohio.  From a friend of mine who ran into the League's
national organizers at a bar tonight, I hear that about 250 attended
the convention, but only 15 from Columbus itself.  15 is 15 too many.
Yoshie


will plead ignorance re. lopov, saw name on poster, chuckled, thought to
myself kinda funny, even thought 'group' might be joke, thought up by
someone/small group
with no serious intention of having legs for mass outreach, so my
initial comments about 'rightous name' and 'growing group' were supposed
to be irony (which often travels poorly in cyberspace)...

so 250 people had 'national convention', doesn't matter who they are,
what they
stand for, what their name is, where they've been or where they're
going, group is a joke (if not in manner of my immediate reaction to
name lopov)...

fwiw: league rep at ann arbor forum yesterday argued for voting for
anybody but kerry or bush, guess she's out of step with her comrades re.
dem candidate...   michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: [Fwd: Swans' Release: July 19, 2004]

2004-07-18 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/18/04 3:46 PM 
http://www.swans.com/
July 19, 2004 -- In this issue:
http://www.swans.com/library/art10/lproy17.html
The Case for Nader-Camejo
- by Louis Proyect
Unlike the DLC-backed candidates of recent years, Nader is not afraid to
represent himself as an old-fashioned trade union advocate. He writes:

Whether workers unionize makes a big difference in their compensation
and treatment. The Economics Policy Institute reports that unionization
provides a 28 percent wage premium to workers -- meaning the same person
in the same job, on average, will earn 11.5 percent more if the job is
unionized -- and a much larger edge in the area of benefits (more than
100 percent for insurance, nearly 200 percent for pensions).


i don't think my criticisms of nader are liberal but i guess some would
disagree...

i've a hunch that some left interest in nader is reflection of absence
of actual left alternatives, as panelist at forum i attended in ann
arbor said yesterday: 'he's best known option, lousy way to develop
actual left alternative...

another panelist referred with reverence to eugene debs, well i dig debs
too but real importance at that time was neither his 6% of prez vote in
1912 or million votes he got in 1920 while in prison, more significant
was over 1300 - mostly local - elected socialists prior to ww1...

nader's advocacy of old-fashioned trade unionism (gompersism? business
unionism?)
apparently stops with those who've worked for him over years if accounts
i've read
about organizing at public citizen and multinational monitor are
accurate...

we've really had enough 'party of person' candidacies/parties...
michael hoover




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: [Fwd: Swans' Release: July 19, 2004]

2004-07-18 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/18/04 4:33 PM 
Michael Hoover wrote:
 another panelist referred with reverence to eugene debs, well i dig
debs
 too but real importance at that time was neither his 6% of prez vote
in
 1912 or million votes he got in 1920 while in prison, more significant
 was over 1300 - mostly local - elected socialists prior to ww1...

I think it would be deeply reactionary to back somebody like Nader if
another Eugene V. Debs was available. Politics is the art, however, of
knowing what to do next.


your comment suggests that you missed my point which was not about prez
elections...

 nader's advocacy of old-fashioned trade unionism (gompersism? business
 unionism?)
 apparently stops with those who've worked for him over years if
accounts
 i've read
 about organizing at public citizen and multinational monitor are
 accurate...

The race is not between Ralph Nader and our ideals. In such a race, the
ideals will always come in first. The challenge remains as ever to
construct an alternative to the 2-party system. Nothing permanent may
come out of the Nader-Camejo bid, but it takes an enormous amount of
guts to stand up to the liberal establishment as Nader does. I don't
Michael pays sufficient recognition to this.


nader is curmudgeon so bucking liberal establishment (whatever that is)
or any other establishment comes with territory, so voting for nader is
what folks should know to do next...


 we've really had enough 'party of person' candidacies/parties...
 michael hoover

I don't think this is what it is about. Our problem is not parties in
general but the specific capitalist political machine in the USA which
is an obstacle to the construction of a mass movement. Whatever Nader
did wrong to his own employees, he put himself and his resources at the
disposal of the Seattle anti-globalization protest. That's not what any
Democratic Party presidential candidate ever did.



ah, rat choice, any event, i''ve not been debating nader or any
candidate for that matter vs dems... michael hoover (who voted for
camejo when he ran for prez in 76 and probably hasn't known what to do
next ever since)


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-17 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/04 2:45 PM 
michael hoover (reporting from birkenstock, i mean
ann arbor, where forum on third parties this weekend includes
representative of the righteously named - and no doubt - growing group,
league of pissed off voters)

Isn't that another front group for the Democrats?
Yoshie


aren't they all, actually, i have it on good word that dems are front
group for reps...
michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Farm Holiday Associationn (was Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece)

2004-07-17 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/04 3:20 PM 
Hmm, well I think we can rule out shark attacks as a factor in the
decline
of the Kansas left.  The American heartland remains shrouded in mystery.
Carl

subsitute tornadoes or some other 'act of god' for which folks hold
politicians accountable...

re. farmbelt left, was doing some reading on pre-american
revolution/colonial era violence and came across mention of 1930s
group/movement with which i'm unfamiliar: farm holiday association...

apparently emerged out of iowa and spread to several other states,
violent direct action was principal feature, farmers defied legal
processes, blocked highways, dumped milk from trucks, forcibly halted
farm disclosures, assaulted public officials,,,

'leader' was guy named milo reno, henry wallace apparently compared
movement to that of of boston tea party, one branch called themselves
'modern 76ers'...

any listers with any info...   michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Facing South: 7/15

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Hoover
F A C I N G   S O U T H
A progressive Southern news report
July 15, 2004 * Issue 84
 _  

INSTITUTE INDEX * The Two Americas

Amount that job growth is lower than Bush Administration predicted in February 2004, 
in millions: 1.5
Of 13 Southern states, number that have had a net job gain since 2001: 0
Percent of African American teens jobless in June 2004: 77
Percent by which number of millionaires in U.S. increased last year: 14
Percent that financial wealth grew for richest 1 percent from 1983-2001: 109
Percent that it fell for bottom 40% during same time period: 46
Cost of new tax breaks given to richest 1% since 2002, in billions: $197
Cost of state budget cuts and tax increases since 2002, in billions: $200
Amount of lost government revenue each day this decade due to Bush tax cuts, in 
millions: $300

Sources on file at the Institute for Southern Studies.
 _  
DATELINE: THE SOUTH * Top Stories Around the Region

ONE OF EIGHT VOTERS WILL USE SAME MACHINES AS FLORIDA 2000
The 2000 Florida elections set in motion a makeover of the nation's voting systems. 
Yet three-quarters of American voters will cast ballots Nov. 2 using the same 
equipment they voted on four years ago. One in eight will be using the same type of 
punch-card voting machines blamed for many of Florida's problems. Electronic voting, 
initially seen as the best way to modernize balloting, is now the subject of questions 
about its security and reliability. (USA Today, 7/13)
http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20040713/6359064s.htm

PANEL TO INVESTIGATE DELAY FACES CONFLICT OF INTEREST
Texas Congressman Tom Delay (R) faces ethics charges alleging he illegally solicited 
campaign contributions in return for legislative favors and laundered illegal 
corporate contributions for use in Texas elections. Lucky for him that four of the 
House ethics committee members charged with investigating DeLay have taken money from 
him. (Alternet, 7/15)
http://www.alternet.org/election04/19241/

EEOC FINDS RACIAL BIAS SURROUNDING LOCKHEED PLANT KILLINGS
Lockheed Martin may have discriminated against black employees at its Meridian, Miss. 
plant by failing to address racial tensions that erupted into a deadly shooting 
rampage last year, a federal agency concluded. Six Lockheed Martin employees -- five 
of them black -- were killed and eight wounded by a white employee in July 8, 2003. 
Plaintiffs say Lockheed knew the white worker was hostile to African Americans. 
(Clarion-Ledger, 7/13)
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040713/NEWS01/407130346/1002

ATOMIC WASTE TANKS LEAKING IN SC
Fifteen tanks holding deadly atomic waste at a nuclear weapons complex along the 
Savannah River have cracked, rusted or leaked, according to federal inspection 
reports. Some of the cracks date to the 1950s, but inspection reports say some leaks 
have been found in the past three years. (Associated Press, 7/10)
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20040710/ap_on_re_us/nuclear_waste_tanks_1

COLLEGE TUITION TO RISE 10%
State colleges and universities will raise tuition by an average 10 percent for the 
coming school year, according to new projections by a higher education organization. 
(Stateline.com)
http://www.stateline.org/stateline/?pa=storysa=showStoryInfoid=385477

ADVOCATES FOR WAR NOW PROFITING FROM AFTERMATH
Lobbyists, public relations counselors and confidential advisors to senior federal 
officials who pressed for war in Iraq are now collecting tens of thousands of dollars 
in fees for helping business clients pursue federal contracts and other financial 
opportunities in Iraq. For instance, a former Senate aide who helped get U.S. funds 
for anti-Hussein exiles who are now active in Iraqi affairs has a $175,000 deal to 
advise Romania on winning business in Iraq. (Los Angeles Times, 7/14)
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0714-01.htm

THE UNIQUE BRUTALITY OF TEXAS
At a time when many other states have been questioning their death-penalty systems, 
why has the death-penalty machinery in Texas been steaming right along? (The American 
Prospect, 7/1/04)
http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=rootname=ViewPrintarticleId=7883 

--
Please Note: 
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees 
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request. 
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/04 10:13 AM 
(Thomas Frank's new book What's Wrong With Kansas argues implicitly
that the Democrats lose elections because they are identified with the
wrong side of the culture wars.


nah, mainstream poli sci guys christopher achen and larry bartels have
much better explanation, they've convincingly shown impact of droughts,
flu, shark attacks, etc. on electoral responses, for example, 1916 shark
attacks (that inspired peter benchley's novel 'jaws') along new jersey
beaches resulted in 10% decline from 1912 in beach town votes for
woodrow wilson...   michael hoover (reporting from birkenstock, i mean
ann arbor, where forum on third parties this weekend includes
representative of the righteously named - and no doubt - growing group,
league of pissed off voters)









--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Summary of Complaint Against Tom Delay

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Hoover
has below been in news...

Summary of Complaint against Rep. Tom DeLay
Filed by Rep. Chris Bell
June 8, 2004
On June 8, 2004, Congressman Chris Bell (D-TX) submitted a complaint to the House
Committee on Standards of Official Conduct regarding the conduct of House Majority
Leader Tom DeLay. The complaint alleges that Mr. DeLay violated the rules of the U.S. 
House of Representatives, the Federal bribery statute, Texas campaign finance laws to 
advance his political interests in the state of Texas.

The complaint charges that:
(1) DeLay illegally solicited and accepted political contributions in return for 
official
action. In the spring and summer of 2002, then Majority Whip DeLay, violated Federal 
law and the rules of the House of Representatives by soliciting and accepting 
contributions for his Texas-based political action committee, Texans for a Republican 
Majority (TRMPAC), from executives of the Kansas-based Westar Energy Corporation in 
return for legislative assistance on an amendment to the energy bill pending before 
the House Energy and Commerce Committee that would have saved Westar billions of 
dollars. Although Mr. DeLay was not a member of the Committee, his position in the 
House leadership and his close ties to senior Republican Members of the Committee, 
including its chairman, afforded him extraordinary influence over the amendment s 
fate. Westar executives noted DeLay s influence in internal company communications and 
contributed $25,000 to TRMPAC to curry DeLay s support.

Violations: 18 U.S.C. §201(b)(2) prohibits public officials from seeking,
receiving, accepting or agreeing to accept anything of value in return for doing or
omitting to do any act in violation of that official s official duty. Section 3 of the
Code of Official Conduct provides that  [a] Member . . . of the House may not
receive compensation and may not permit compensation to accrue to his
beneficial interest from any source, the receipt of which would occur by virtue of
influence improperly exerted from his position in Congress. 

(2) DeLay s TRMPAC laundered illegal corporate contributions for the purpose of
influencing Texas legislative races and failed to properly disclose its financial
activity. Through TRMPAC, Mr. DeLay used corporate money to secure Republican majority 
control of the Texas Legislature in the 2002 election in order to gerrymander Texas 
congressional districts to create more Republican districts. TRMPAC, which operates 
under Texas law for the purpose of influencing state elections, was managed by Jim 
Ellis, a top DeLay aide who also ran DeLay s federally registered Americans for a 
Republican Majority (ARMPAC). During the week of September 9, 2002, TRMPAC sent 
$190,000 in corporate funds to the Republican National Committee in an apparent 
money-laundering scheme intended to
provide candidates for the Texas State Legislature with additional funding shortly 
before the election. Because Texas law prevents corporations from making contributions 
to candidates, TRMPAC could not give the money to candidates directly. Instead, TRMPAC 
gave Jim Ellis a blank check drawn on the PAC s soft money account, which Ellis then 
made out to the RNC for $190,000. Within three weeks, the RNC's state election 
committee sent the same amount back to Texas, divided among seven Republican 
candidates for the Texas State House of Representatives.

Violations: Under Texas campaign finance laws and regulations, political action
committees, such as DeLay s TRMPAC, are prohibited from using corporate
donations to help individual candidates. Moreover, PACs must disclose all the
money spent to influence state elections to the Texas Ethics Commission
( TEC ). A comparison of TRMPAC s filings with the IRS and the TEC shows
that TRMPAC failed to accurately report its expenditures, further supporting the
charge that TRMPAC used corporate money to support political candidates in a
calculated and premeditated effort to evade and violate Texas law.

(3) DeLay improperly used his office to urge federal agencies to assist in a partisan
objective wholly unrelated to his official duties. During the summer of 2003, Mr. 
DeLay violated House Standards of Official Conduct prohibiting Members from contacting 
government agencies to further partisan goals by improperly using his office to exhort 
federal agencies, including the Federal Aviation Administration ( FAA ) and the 
Department of Justice, to search for and interdict state legislators absent from the 
state legislative session in Texas. In the most egregious instance, on May 12, 2003, 
Rep. DeLay s Congressional office pressed the FAA to provide assistance in locating an 
airplane that was believed to be flying some of the
absent legislators out of Texas. DeLay s staff gave the FAA the tail number of the
aircraft and, without providing any explanation for the request, asked the FAA to find 
the aircraft. The FAA tracked the plane and advised Mr. DeLay s staff that the 

Re: Mike Ditka

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/14/04 7:22 PM 
Jack Ryan should enter the race again. He's sleazy and hypocritical
enough for the US Senate, perhaps even enough for the House.
jd


ditka's wife apparently said she'd divorce him if he ran for senate,
ryan's ex-wife
said that he took her to sex clubs and tried to get her to have sex in
front of other people when they were married but she also said he'd make
good senator, no word on whether ditka has take his wife to sex clubs...

whoops, is above re. to harrison ford character in films adapted from
tom clancy (or some such writer, have never read any) novels, if so,
never mind... michael hoover












--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: ditka

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 12:39 AM 
Alas he is registered in Florida -- see that Michael H. -- and will not
run.
Michael Perelman

hear ye hear ye: it's official (below story actually states he withdrew
from race that he never entered)...

although not necessarily for reason cited above, after all, he could do
what cheney did in 2000, declared residency had been texas during years
he was running halliburton, upon vp nomination, changed voter
registration back to wyoming from where he'd served in congress
(constitution requires prez and vp must be from different states) and
where he was still getting mail six months after taking office (piece of
consiracy michael moore missed)...

similarly, recall hillary clinton and bobby kenned in ny...

btw: there is some question as to whether or not ditka is registered in
florida, his wife is, she reportedly votes, he apparenty does not...
michael hoover


Former Football Coach Won't Run for Senate in Illinois
By STEPHEN KINZER
Published: July 15, 2004

CHICAGO, July 14 - Nothing may more vividly reflect the Republican
Party's difficulty finding a suitable candidate for the Senate here than
its flirtation this week with the former Chicago Bears coach Mike Ditka.

Mr. Ditka, who has made news with his enthusiastic drinking and
gambling, volcanic temper and support for public executions, withdrew
from the race Wednesday night after several days of flirtation.

I don't know how I'd do on the Senate floor if I got in a confrontation
with someone I didn't appreciate or maybe didn't appreciate me, Mr.
Ditka said.

Mr. Ditka was not close to being the most outlandish possible Republican
candidate. Commentators here have half-seriously proposed Michael
Jordan, Ernie Banks, Cindy Crawford and Oprah Winfrey. None of these
figures have indicated any interest in the race. It is not even clear
that they are Republicans, and at least one of them, Mr. Jordan, has
contributed to the Obama campaign.

As the situation degenerates into the realm of comic opera, satirists
have begun suggesting fictional candidates. One proposed the cartoon
character Homer Simpson (a resident of Springfield), and another
suggested that deep-dish pepperoni pizza should get the nod (diversity,
name recognition and immense popularity).

I seriously doubt that the Republicans, even in their wildest dreams,
ever expected to be in this position, said Kent Redfield, a political
science professor at the University of Illinois at Springfield. The
chances of this turning into a national joke are very high. It will be a
three-ring circus.

Republican leaders are eager to do whatever possible to hold the seat of
Senator Peter G. Fitzgerald, who is retiring. On Tuesday, Senator George
Allen of Virginia, chairman of the Republican Senatorial Committee and
son of a former Washington Redskins coach, flew to Chicago to meet with
Mr. Ditka. The head of the Illinois Republican party, Judy Baar Topinka,
also attended.

On Wednesday afternoon, a spokeswoman for Mr. Ditka, Mary Albright, said
he had not made up his mind. He has some things he needs to sort out,
she said.

Those may have included myriad business obligations. Mr. Ditka is a
motivational speaker, owns a steakhouse in Chicago, works as a sports
commentator and is about to introduce his own line of sportswear. He is
also a pitchman for Levitra, an anti-impotency drug.

Republicans have named a 19-member committee to review candidates. One
member, Dennis P. Wiggins, said that although there was no official
deadline for a decision, one could come this week. Statewide candidates
in Illinois generally win by appealing to independents, soccer moms and
suburbanites. Voters in those groups mighty not have been drawn to a
self-described ultraconservative with a supermacho image like Mr. Ditka.

Wisecracks about Mr. Ditka, many of them involving his work for Levitra,
began circulating several days ago and have become steadily more vulgar,
suggesting that late-night comics might have wound up being the greatest
beneficiaries of a Ditka candidacy.

Several other people who had been considered possible candidates for the
Republican nomination, among them State Senator Steve Rauschenberger and
a businessman who is a former chairman of the State Board of Education,
Ronald Gidwitz, took themselves out of consideration before Mr. Ditka's
name surfaced. Among those still interested are Andrea Grubb Barthwell,
who last week resigned as a deputy director in the Office of National
Drug Control Policy, and Jim Oberweis, who owns a chain of ice cream
parlors and finished second to Mr. Ryan in the March primary.

Mr. Ditka, 64, is not registered to vote in Illinois, but is registered
in Florida, where he owns a home.

Until Mr. Ditka's name was brought up a few days ago on a Web site that
was apparently started partly as a joke, Illinois Republican leaders
were insisting that they would carefully review the records of all
prospective candidates. They might have had to loosen

Re: The Future of the Green Party

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 2:02 PM 
The Future of the Green Party (it's the Greens for Nader and Green
leaders like Peter Miguel Camejo, Matt Gonzalez, Jason West, Ross
Mirkarimi, Donna Warren, and others who are the future of the Green
Party):
-Yoshie


sex pistols ranted something about 'no future', below from another list
in another time (well, almost 4  yrs ago), ...   michael hoover

 NY Times, November 2, 2000
 WASHINGTON, Nov. 1 - For as long as he has been running for president,
 Ralph Nader has made clear that his quest is not about winning, but
about
 building a viable third party, the Greens, that could reform
Washington,
 elect state and local candidates and provide a home for disenchanted
 liberals.
 This is not going to go away, Mr. Nader said recently. It is going
to
 build a major political progressive force in America.
 But in the colorful history of third parties in America, there have
been
 few, if any, alternative parties that have succeeded on the scale Mr.
Nader
 envisions, analysts say. Indeed, history is littered with tales of
 fledgling movements built around charismatic or iron-willed
individuals -
 from Robert M. LaFollette to Theodore Roosevelt to Ross Perot - that
 crashed soon after taking flight.
 Louis Proyect

Relative electoral strength/influence of minor parties at local  state
levels (concentration of immigrant socialists in urban areas, midwest
populist farmers) up to WW2 has been pretty well documented.

Of course, structure  culture of US electoral politics have been
obstacles
to minor parties: premium placed on majority/plurality results, single-
member legislative districts, winner-take-all offices, ballot access
restrictions, absence of media attention, campaign costs.

Nationally, most successful minor party presidential election efforts
(since Civil War, only 4 such candidates have received more than 10% of
direct vote - T Roosevelt/1912, Robert La Follette/1924, George Wallace/
1968, Ross Perot/1992) have had transient quality.  Focus on presidency
has tended to make such efforts parties of the personality electoral
vehicles lacking sufficient internal organization to survive defeat at
polls.  Program - campaigning, policy proposals, politicking - takes
precedence over party building (i.e., recruiting body of workers who
stick around after election is over).

Above is evident in minimal number of minor party candidates who run for

congressional seats.  While occasional independents - James
Buckley/NY,
Harry Byrd/WV, Bernie Sanders/VT - have been elected since mid-20th
century,
not since 1924, when 2 Socialists  3 Farmer-Laborites won House races 
a Farmer-Laborite went to the Senate, has there been any semblance of
organized left opposition.  Concentration on presidential elections has
left little time, people power, money to wage congressional campaigns.

Inadvertently perhaps, US two-party system has been reconfirmed,
reinforced,
 periodically revitalized by minor parties.  Such parties have lost
support when their issues/proposals became popular and assimilated
(generally in watered down form) into one or both major parties.  For
example, Progressive, Socialist, Farmer-Labor, Communist party
candidates collected 2 million votes in 1934 congressional elections.
By 1936, left congressional candidates were negligible factor in wake of
most left-leaning period of New Deal that secured FDR's re-election.
Michael Hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: The Future of the Green Party

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 3:02 PM 
Michael Hoover wrote:
 By 1936, left congressional candidates were negligible factor in wake
of
 most left-leaning period of New Deal that secured FDR's re-election.

Well, this is not quite accurate. Those candidates tended to function as
the left wing of the New Deal. In other words, they had the same
relation to FDR that Donna Lamarche and David Cobb have to John Kerry.
In the late 1930s, we had the objective possibility for a radical labor
party but that was destroyed by a CPUSA who used their hegemony to
squash efforts to the left of FDR.


not in 36, browder tried to norman thomas to run a socialist/comunist
prez-vp ticket with thomas at top and browder as vp, thomas declined (he
received about 200,000 votes that year) browder's prez candidacy drew
about 80,000 votes), 36 'left' (note scare quotes, few people realized
that party was front for father coughlin)) prez alternative was populist
candidacy of union party's william lemke (farmer-labor member of
congress from  north dakota)...

big difference between 36 and today re. above is that fdr did court
variety of progressive types, in fact, he ran 36 campaign as
'progressive coalition' rather than DP candidacy, number of 'soft' left
leaders did sign on to become 'junior' partners,
socialist/farmer-labor/communist/american labor/etc congressional
candidates took big hits that year...   michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: The Future of the Green Party

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 3:56 PM 
Michael Hoover wrote
36 'left' (note scare quotes, few people realized
that party was front for father coughlin)) prez alternative was populist
candidacy of union party's william lemke (farmer-labor member of
congress from  north dakota)...


left out of above: lemke received about 900,000 votes...  mh


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: The Future of the Green Party

2004-07-15 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 4:02 PM 
Michael Hoover wrote:
 big difference between 36 and today re. above is that fdr did court
 variety of progressive types, in fact, he ran 36 campaign as
 'progressive coalition' rather than DP candidacy, number of 'soft'
left
 leaders did sign on to become 'junior' partners,
 socialist/farmer-labor/communist/american labor/etc congressional
 candidates took big hits that year...

Well, there is a difference between FDR's snuggling up with the CPUSA
and John Kerry's back of the hand treatment towards anybody to the left
of Chuck Schumer, but I would prefer that the left have nothing to do
with the Democrats, whether doors or opened or not.


perhaps my point was unclear: fdr sought to co-opt various 'progressive'
folks because he *had* to, indication of growing strength of left
(broadly
defined) at time, fdr's biggest fear (not too realistic imo) apparently
was that
lafollette might be able to bring together progressive/'left'
elements...

my conception of 30s left appears broader than yours, true that cp
membership
grew in later years of decade, also true that browder took party down
disastrous ('marxism as 20th century jeffersonianism' or some such
slogan) path, but don't think party was 'hegemonic'...

surely you know after all these years that i'm not proponent of working
with or
trying to move dems to left, of course, will rogers said that he wasn't
a member of any party, he was a dem, there's some truth in that, perhaps
leftists, en masse, should decide to take over local dem committees...
michael hoover




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Coziness with the Saudis is a bipartisan phenomenon

2004-07-14 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/14/04 8:51 AM 
coziness with the Saudis is a bipartisan phenomenon.


of course...

saudi gov't is among top ten buyers of u.s. arms, human rights abuses in
saudi arabia include use of u.s. made restraining belts and chairs,
saudis also use
electro-shock devices of which u.s. is leading developer of
technology... michael hoover




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Kucinich delegates fold like a cheap suitcase

2004-07-14 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/13/04 9:18 AM 
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 11, 2004
Kerry heads off platform squabble
 From the Nation/Politics section
Stephen Dinan
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. -- Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's
campaign headed off a showdown in the party platform yesterday over
Iraq, convincing rival Dennis J. Kucinich's supporters not to demand
withdrawal of U.S. troops or the establishment of a Department of Peace.


dem leaders/candidates have worked overtime to prevent such disputes
since 72 when platform fight on evening of mcgovern's acceptance speech
pushed him to
about 2am eastern time when most of nation was asleep, many more people
were
tuned into dems arguing with each other during prime time (reps had
similar, albeit lesser, experience in 92 when bush the first essentially
allowed religious right to run
things)...

clintonite control of dem party in 92 and 96 not only prevented any
apparent internal differences, it also led to 'progressives' speakers
being pushed out of prime tme slots (they'd had enough of jesse
jackson's rouings 84 and 88 convention remarks)...

desire to present unified front on national tv makes sense from party
perspective, kucinich folks have to make decision at some point re. that
 ('their') party...  michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Mike Ditka

2004-07-14 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/13/04 5:08 PM 
Is he really running for Senator?  Charles Barkeley spoke about running
for Alabama
governor, but he dropped the matter.
Michael Perelman

Some in Illinois Want Ditka for Senate
By MIKE COLIAS
Associated Press Writer
July 14, 2004, 4:42 AM EDT

CHICAGO -- In a Hail Mary pass by the state GOP, the party chairwoman
met with former Chicago Bears coach Mike Ditka about a possible run for
the U.S. Senate.

Illinois Republicans are scrambling to find a replacement candidate with
less than four months left until the November election.

Jack Ryan dropped out nearly three weeks ago over embarrassing
allegations in his divorce papers that he took his wife, Boston Public
actress Jeri Ryan, to sex clubs before they split up. The party's top
choices have refused to run.

Mike Lawrence, interim director of the Public Policy Institute at
Southern Illinois University in Carbondale, said the GOP's fascination
with Ditka is understandable.

In some respects, the Republicans are in the position where it looks as
if they're going to have to throw a Hail Mary here, he said, and Mike
Ditka was an All-Pro end.

A number of Republican leaders in both Illinois and Washington said
Tuesday that Ditka's name recognition, regular-guy appeal and analytical
game-planning skills would make him a viable candidate to challenge
state Sen. Barack Obama, a Democratic rising star.

The public is really tired of the slick politicians, they're tired of
sound bites, they're tired of trial lawyers running government. To have
a decent, ordinary guy, a regular guy, run, I think is something that
the public would overwhelmingly embrace, said state Sen. Dave Syverson,
a member of the Republican State Central Committee.

Ditka, 64, said he had not decided on a run after meeting Tuesday night
with Illinois Republican Party chairwoman and state treasurer Judy Baar
Topinka at his Chicago restaurant.

He said it is an exciting idea but he has not made up his mind.

I've talked to some people but that's about all I've done, Ditka said
earlier Tuesday.

The Hall of Famer led the Bears to the 1986 Super Bowl and now spends
most of his time on TV as a football analyst and pitchman for a casino
and an anti-impotence drug.

Off the field, Ditka is well known as a conservative Republican. In
2000, he warmed up a crowd for then-candidate George W. Bush by saying
the W stands for women. I believe women want a man for president of the
United States.

If he ran for Senate, Ditka could energize the Republican base, as well
as independent voters, and possibly put Illinois back into play for
Bush, said U.S. Sen. Peter Fitzgerald, whose retirement opened the seat.


If Ditka entered the race, Fitzgerald said, the Republicans would have
a real chance of winning.

Thousands of fans have weighed in on the www.draftditka.com Web site --
created to urge Ditka to become the state's GOP chairman but transformed
into a Ditka for U.S. Senate movement.

Even Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, a Democrat, thinks Ditka would be a
good choice, though he thinks Obama will win. He noted actors Ronald
Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger made the transition to politics and
former sports stars had done the same.

If they can do it, Mike Ditka can do it, Blagojevich said.

But Ditka is not a shoo-in. State Sen. Kirk Dillard, a central committee
member, said Ditka would have to go through a vetting process before he
would sign on to his candidacy.

And Ditka, who recently joined ESPN as an NFL analyst, could lose his
endorsement deals if elected. He also has a new clothing line and his
restaurant to consider.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said Ditka would just be walking onto another
gridiron.

I'd say, `Mike, you've had several bruising experiences in your life.
Be prepared for another one,' McCain said.



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Query from a correspondent

2004-07-14 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/12/04 5:42 PM 
For some inexplicable reason I am cyber-debating some American social
democrat. He insists that the 1974-75 oil shock caused the US recession
and (implicitly) US decline from hegemony and the good days. We three
all disagree with each other on many questions but I *think* that we all
agree that this theory is ridiculous. In his magnum opus that appeared
in New Left Review in 1998, Brenner dismisses this argument out of hand
by noting that the recession began in 1973 so the oil shock argument
doesn't even make sense. He only spends one line on this though,
dismissing it out of hand. Does anybody know any other good sources that
don't use much dogmatic rhetoric?


been alota years since i read it but bluestone and harrison's 'great
u-turn' may be useful re. above...


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Facing South: 7/9

2004-07-14 Thread Michael Hoover
F A C I N G   S O U T H
A progressive Southern news report
July 9, 2004 * Issue 83
 _  
INSTITUTE INDEX * Remember Enron?
Amount of contributions that Enron gave to President Bush's 2000 campaign: $623,000
Rank of Enron among Bush's biggest campaign contributors in 2000: 1
Out of 8 recommendations Enron made to Bush Adminisration's energy task force, number 
adopted: 7
Amount that Georgia state pension plan lost due to Enron's 2001 bankruptcy, in 
millions: $127
Amount that 20,000 Enron workers lost in retirement savings, in billions: $1.2
Amount that top Enron executives made in stock sales before the bankruptcy, in 
billions: $1.1
Amount that Enron Chairman Ken Lay personally made, in millions: $217

Sources on file at the Institute for Southern Studies.
 _  
DATELINE: THE SOUTH * Top Stories Around the Region

BUSH TIES PUT ENRON BACK IN THE SPOTLIGHT
The indictment of President Bush's one-time friend and financial backer Kenneth Lay 
put the spotlight back on Bush's ties to big corporate donors as he heads into the 
final months of the U.S. presidential campaign. (Reuters, 7/8)
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=5624062

NORTH CAROLINA MAY BECOME BATTLEGROUND STATE
With U.S. Sen. John Edwards being selected Tuesday as the running mate for presumed 
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, North Carolina may become the state that 
swings both ways. A recent Mason-Dixon poll showed a Kerry/Edwards ticket narrowly 
beating Bush/Cheney. (Durham Herald-Sun, 7/6)
http://heraldsun.com/durham/4-498254.html

LATINO VOTE KEY IN 2004
The Latino community, the largest racial minority group in the United States, could be 
key in deciding whether Republican George W. Bush or Democrat John Kerry wins the 
November 2 presidential election. Of almost 40 million Latinos living in the United 
States, some seven million -- 6.1 percent of the US electorate, and one million more 
than in the last presidential election -- will be eligible to vote. (AFP, 7/5)
http://tinyurl.com/3awa8

PROMISE OF 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT UNFULFILLED
When the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed, it capped years of struggle to have 
Congress enact legislation that would explicitly outlaw discrimination. But the advent 
of school re-segregation and a persistent class divide between white and black 
Americans make the Act's goals elusive. (BlackPressUSA)
http://tinyurl.com/2ordt

BUSH OPPONENTS HANDCUFFED FOR WEARING T-SHIRTS
On July 4, President Bush celebrated America's freedom in a rally in Charleston, West 
Virginia. But a couple from Texas, in town on business, were hauled away in handcuffs 
for wearing T-shirts saying, Love America, Hate Bush. (Charleston Gazette, 7/9)
http://wvgazette.com/section/Editorials/2004070819

NEW ORLEANS IS CHEAPEST PLACE TO DATE
New Orleans isn't just the home of Mardi Gras and good Cajun cooking. According to 
Match.com, it's also the cheapest place to take someone out on a date. The website's 
Cost of Dating Index ranked cities by six kinds of dates: Coffee Date, Drinks, 
Lunch, Movie (and ice cream), Romantic (dinner, theatre tickets and flowers) and 
Professional sporting event. (Match.com)
http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=2357

--
Please Note: 
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees 
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request. 
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Mike Ditka

2004-07-14 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/14/04 11:51 AM 
Michael Hoover wrote:
 The Hall of Famer led the Bears to the 1986 Super Bowl and now spends
 most of his time on TV as a football analyst and pitchman for a casino
 and an anti-impotence drug.

This would seem to qualify him to run as a Democrat, a party badly in
need of some viagra.


fwiw, ditka calls himself 'ultra-conservative', opposes abortion and
thinks that marriage is between man  woman...however, supports gun
control...

good for him that he lives in illinois should he decide to run, folks in
louisiana likely have very different opinion given ditka's quite poor
(disastrous really) time as coach of new orleans saints...   michael
hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/07/04 3:50 PM 
What kind of national party runs 50 separate campaigns? Why not go
down to the county level and run 3000 campaigns?
Doug


questionable whether u.s. has any national parties at all...

in any event, electoral college makes for 50 state elections for prez so
major parties do actually run 50 campaigns (51 counting prez candidate's
own campaign, 51 and 1/2 if one includes vice-prez campaign...

and given that ballot construction is responsibility of county elections
officers, one could argue that there are actually 3000 county elections
for prez...

can't recall # of different ballots in florida but there's a whole
bunch, gives lie to
5 supreme court justices who moaned about their concern for 'equal
protection' of voting rights in 2000...

formal voting procedures, no doubt, pale beside other issues but seems
that each state could at very least have same ballot for prez election
(1787 constitution assigns almost all election responsibilities to
states so it may be asking too much
for a common national prez ballot)...michael hoover





--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: An editorial worth repeating

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/07/04 2:44 PM 
Monthly Review, Feb. 2001
The Nader Campaign and the Future
of U.S. Left Electoral Politics
by The Editors
In our view, the Nader campaign was the electoral side of the mass
organizing that produced the extraordinary demonstrations in Seattle in
1999 and in Washington, DC, and at the two national political
conventions in 2000.


similar view was also held by jello biafra whose candidacy for green
party nomination in 2000 i personally favored, ex-dker focused, however,
on green party rather than nader...   michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


AFSCME: Bring Troops Home Now Resolution Contradicts Union's Support of Kerry

2004-07-07 Thread Michael Hoover
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004
Subject: AFSCME Convention Votes to Bring Troops Home Now
-
Via Workers World News Service
Reprinted from the July 8, 2004
issue of Workers World newspaper
-
AFSCME CONVENTION VOTES TO BRING TROOPS HOME NOW

By Sharon Black
Anaheim, Calif.

Some 6,000 people participated in the 36th international convention of
AFSCME--the State, County and Municipal Employees union--in Ana heim,
Calif., June 19-25. About 3,000 were delegates from local and district
AFSCME councils. AFSCME Puerto Rico's participation increased
dramatically, from two to 40 delegates.

The meeting, demonstrations nearby, and resolutions against the war in
Iraq reflected a growing militancy among the rank and file of the public
workers' union.

As with the Service Employees union's convention in San Francisco
earlier in June, the AFSCME gathering passed a resolution calling for
U.S. troops to get out of Iraq.

The final resolution involved a struggle over wording with some of the
union leadership, which supports John Kerry's presidential campaign. The
union's resolutions committee had watered down an earlier anti-war
resolution, changing the demand to bring the troops home as soon as
possible instead of now.

Later, Brenda Stokely, president of District Council 1707 representing
daycare workers in New York City, gave an impassioned call from the
conference floor to amend this wording. She expressed the workers'
sentiments when she urged, Bring the troops home now!

The delegates cheered and applauded her call. And when the resolution
came to the floor for a vote, these same delegates overwhelmingly passed
the amendment to make the wording bring the troops home now.

People in the Union and Community Campaign to Bring the Troops Home
Now distributed a special petition and flier repeating this demand.
AFSCME convention participants scooped up these fliers.

The issue of the war is of burning importance to workers. Their children
are on the front lines.

UNION'S SUPPORT FOR KERRY CONTRADICTS ANTI-WAR SENTIMENT

Despite the strong anti-war sentiment, AFSCME's official position is
support for John Kerry.

Kerry spoke at the convention on June 24. He called for a stronger
military. He has vowed to increase the number of troops in Iraq.

Yet the AFL-CIO's top leadership is throwing all its efforts and
resources into the Kerry campaign.

This stands in stark contrast to what labor really needs: a resurgence
of action that gets right in the bosses' faces. Labor needs unity that
will challenge the capitalists. It needs a program that is politically
independent of both the Democratic and Republican parties.

Kerry doesn't exactly have a strong pro-labor record. Just recently,
even though he presents himself as labor's candidate, Kerry missed an
important Senate vote on extending unemployment benefits for thousands
of jobless and desperate workers. Had he been there the amendment would
have passed.

At the convention, the AFSCME delegates approved a $9 union dues
increase. In itself this could be fine--but the increase is meant
primarily to support the Democratic Party and the Kerry election
campaign.

One delegate from Detroit bravely took the microphone to oppose the dues
increase, asserting that the union's strategy of relying on the
elections is wrong. The delegate suggested that the money would be
better used for strengthening AFSCME locals, on organizing, and on
building bigger demonstrations about union issues.

While this opposition to the dues increase was clearly a minority view,
AFSCME staffers have expressed worry that the dues increase could hurt
organizing efforts.

The hoopla around Kerry also forced the tabling of many other
progressive resolutions. The Million Worker March, a national rank-and-
file effort to organize a mass labor march on Washington for Oct. 17,
had gathered a number of supporters.

Clarence Thomas from the International Longshore Workers Union Local 10
and others had come to the conference to organize for this effort.
Caucus meetings and a local church meeting in Anaheim helped to build
support.

Unfortunately, the actual floor vote on supporting the march was
scuttled. Nevertheless, march organizers felt they had succeeded in
meeting many like-minded labor unionists.

SECRETARY-TREASURER BILL LUCY CONTINUES ROLE

During the elections of union officers, Secretary-Treasurer Bill Lucy
stunned the membership when he declined nomination for re-election,
citing health problems. Lucy has long been one of the labor movement's
leaders most closely associated with the Black struggle for civil
rights. He traces his roots to the Memphis strike of sanitation workers
that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was supporting when he was
assassinated. Lucy also fought to oppose South African apartheid. He is
president of the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists.

The conference floor broke out in standing ovations of support for Lucy,
with delegates demanding that he stay 

Re: On the cover of Time Magazine!

2004-07-06 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/04/04 6:43 PM 
'I don't like this film being reduced to Bush vs. Kerry,' Moore tells
TIME


and film should not be reduced to above even if moore were to think it
should be...

from aristotle to at least james harrington (with notable exception of
hobbes), western political thinkers were concerned with 'balance of
property'...

all but forgotten today, harrington's contribution was recognizing
england's mid-seventeenth century constitutional crisis in its
historical context, in contrast to
most of his contemporaries who saw the english civil wars as conflicts
between 'good' amd 'evil', harrington stressed that they were one
manifestation of historical process - collapse of medieval political
order and emergence of modern states...

harrington developed theory of economic foundation of political power
holding that in long run (i know, keynes later said we're all dead),
government must reflect distribution of property...

harrington attempted to show how traditional system of 'mixed monarchy'
in which political power had been shared by king, nobility, and clergy
had been founded upon feudal distribution of property, he asserted that
economic conditions that had made this government form feasible
('natural') had ceased to exist in 1600s... consequently, political
realignment was necessary/inevitable...

moore's film contains seeds of similar analysis - in popular format -
for present time (if one can get past baggage that moore himself brings
to table as well as simplistic notion that film is simply diatribe
against bushes)...   michael hoover



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Skewering Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/02/04 11:08 AM 
Counterpunch, July 2, 2004
Moore's Fahrenheit 911
Mocking the Moral Crisis of Capitalism
By DOUGLAS VALENTINE
They wept! They roared with laughter! At inappropriate times they
applauded, the politically correct, white middle class audience at the
Academy Theatre in avante guard Northampton, MA, home of Smith College,
and many fine restaurants.
But, then again, Michael Moore was preaching to the choir, wasn't he?
And that's the first of two big problems with Fahrenheit 911.
The other big problem is this frivolous film's utter futility.


first problem with above article: venue  environment that author viewed
film,
get out some man, go see film in mass. equivalents of kissimmee fl,
ocala, fl, eustis, fl (places where film is playing, towns where no
films like this ever play)...

second problem with above article: it makes all easy criticisms of
moore's
work (at least he had sense - with one lapse into schtick of trying to
get
people to do things they don't want to do, in this case, get members of
congress
to enlist their children to go to iraq, this type of scene has really
become annoying in moore's films)...

so what does article leave readers with, self-congratulatory air of
author who is able to see michael moore for what he 'really' is, like
wow...  michael hoover

--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Facing South - 6/30/2004

2004-07-04 Thread Michael Hoover
F A C I N G   S O U T H
A progressive Southern news report
June 30, 2004 * Issue 82
 _  
INSTITUTE INDEX * Iraq: Loot and Run
Amount of U.S. money allotted for reconstruction project in Iraq, in billions: $18.6
Number of projects promised in Iraq: 2,300
Number of projects actually underway: 140
Percent of reconstruction money spent to date that has gone to security: 25
Amount taken from drinking water projects to pay for U.S. Embassy in Iraq, in 
millions: $184
Amount wasted due to overcharges in Iraq contracts, according to a recent 
Congressional report, in billions: $1
Value of Iraq oil revenues that are missing, in billions: $20
Cost of trucks Halliburton Co. instructed drivers to abandon if they got a flat tire: 
$85,000
Amount spent to house 100 Halliburton employees in five-star hotel in Iraq for three 
months in Iraq, in millions: $1
Amount spent on housing 400 soldiers in Iraq in tents for one year: $200,000
Sources on file at the Institute for Southern Studies.
 _  
DATELINE: THE SOUTH * Top Stories Around the Region
FAHRENHEIT 9/11 A BIG HIT IN N.C. MILITARY TOWN
Michael Moore's left-sided documentary criticizing the Bush administration's war on 
terrorism, Fahrenheit 9/11, sold out two showings its first night last Friday in the 
military town of Fayetteville, N.C., home of Fort Bragg. Nearly 1,000 more tickets 
sold over the weekend -- as many as 75% from military families, according to the 
theater showing the film. (Fayetteville Observer, 6/29)
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=localStory=6429101

HALLIBURTON CHARGED WITH INFLATING WAR COSTS
Houston-based Halliburton Co. paid high-priced bills for common items, such as soda, 
laundry and hotels, in Iraq and Kuwait and then passed the inflated costs along to 
taxpayers, according to several former Halliburton employees and a Pentagon internal 
audit. (Knight Ridder, 6/15)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001956410_halliburton15.html

TAXPAYERS SUBSIDIZING WAL-MART GROWTH
State and local governments have given Arkansas-based Wal-Mart -- the biggest retail 
employer in the world -- over $1 billion in taxpayer-funded give-aways. Over 90% of 
the company's retail and distribution centers have received such incentives as free or 
reduced-priced land, tax breaks, and employee recruitment and training grants. (Joplin 
Globe, 6/13)
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=116727c=87

ADVOCATES SAY FLORIDA FELON LIST RIDDLED WITH ERRORS
The state of Florida has released a list of over 48,000 supposed ex-felons -- 
disproportionately African-American -- who are to be barred from voting in November. 
But an independent voting rights group -- which had to sue to make the list public -- 
says that as many as 25,000 may be wrongfully on the list, having been granted 
clemency or pardons. (Miami Herald, 6/29 -- reg. req'd)
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/9034893.htm?1c

YOUNGER FLORIDA CUBANS CHALLENGE OLDER HARD-LINERS
A growing number of Cuban-Americans reject the hard-line perspective that has dominated
Cuban policy in Miami and Washington for more than four decades. Younger 
Cuban-Americans are
joining more-recent arrivals and former hard-liners who have undergone changes of 
heart in moderating the political dialogue in Miami, and opposing recent Bush 
Administration measures that further isolate the country. (Orlando Sentinel, 6/21)
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/nation/8975398.htm

TEXAS NATIVE WINS GREEN PARTY PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION
Texas attorney and former chair of the Texas Green Party won the Green Party 
nomination for president at their nominating convention last weekend. Cobb says the 
Party's strategy is twofold: beat Bush, and build the Greens. (Fox News, 6/29)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124073,00.html
--
Please Note: 
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees 
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request. 
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Skewering Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/04/04 12:18 PM 
first problem with above article: venue  environment that author viewed
film,
get out some man, go see film in mass. equivalents of kissimmee fl,
ocala, fl, eustis, fl (places where film is playing, towns where no
films like this ever play)...

FAHRENHEIT 9/11 A BIG HIT IN N.C. MILITARY TOWN
Michael Moore's left-sided documentary criticizing the Bush
administration's war on terrorism, Fahrenheit 9/11, sold out two
showings its first night last Friday in the military town of
Fayetteville, N.C., home of Fort Bragg. Nearly 1,000 more tickets sold
over the weekend -- as many as 75% from military families, according to
the theater showing the film. (Fayetteville Observer, 6/29)
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=localStory=6429101





--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: [Fwd: RE: [Marxism] Kerry: no drivers licenses for illegals]

2004-07-04 Thread Michael Hoover
 

---Please 
Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written 
communications to or from College employees regarding College business are 
public records, available to the public and media upon request. 
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public 
disclosure.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/03/04 10:06 PM 
 Original Message 
Subject: RE: [Marxism] Kerry: no drivers licenses for illegals
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 21:51:55 -0400
From: Jose G. Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Until very recently, virtually no state mixed immigration
matters with driver's licenses. 
Among other things, the Democrats snuck into the Immigration
bill measures to transform state-issued drivers licenses into a national
ID card/internal passport.
The way it was instrumented was a) requiring fingerprinting and
b) requiring a verified social security number to get drivers licenses.
José

Driver's license changes 
By Skip Cauthorn, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
June 30, 2004
   
Starting Thursday, those wishing to obtain a Tennessee driver's license will have to 
go through the inconvenience of providing an original birth certificate and several 
other documents to be eligible. The change is one of many new state laws to become 
effective Thursday.

Those who have renewed a Tennessee license at least once in the past will not be 
affected by the change. However, those who didn't first obtain a license prior to 
January of 2001, should be ready to produce several pieces of information including an 
official birth certificate (no photocopies) or passport, two proofs of identity, two 
proofs of residency and a Social Security number.

Those without a Social Security number will have to sign an affidavit stating they 
have never had one.

Under the new law, driver's licenses will not be issued to those who aren't a legal 
citizen or permanent resident. Instead anyone who can't prove their status will be 
issued a driver's certificate. The law's first effective date was May 29, when the 
issuance of driver's licenses to those who couldn't prove citizenship was discontinued.

Those that fell into this category since May 29 may pick up a driver's certificate, 
a state issued document not to be used as identification, as early as Thursday. 

Gov. Phil Bredesen, whose administration presented the legislation to the General 
Assembly months ago, says the law is necessary in addressing Homeland Security 
concerns despite an inconvenience to motorists.

I would love to have an answer that really is convenient for everybody [but] the 
Homeland Security aspect of that * really trumped all the other issues, said Bredesen 
Monday. I certainly understand it's an inconvenience for some people; it's an 
inconvenience for everybody who has to bring a copy of a birth certificate to get the 
licenses. * But I think it's an important move to get us to be * from one of the 
loosest states to one of the tightest states.

The new law is the latest in what has been a controversial issue since the General 
Assembly passed legislation in 2001 allowing those without Social Security numbers to 
obtain a Tennessee driver license. At the time the state Department of Safety 
supported the law saying it was safer to allow illegal aliens the ability to obtain a 
license, as they would have to pass all standard testing.

Opponents of the measure argued that non-citizens shouldn't be allowed a license and 
criticized the long lines that resulted at testing stations.

Those who obtained a license since Jan. 1, 2001, and can't prove citizenship or 
permanent residency, must upon expiration exchange their license for the new 
certificate.

A recent Department of Safety figure set the number of motorists without Social 
Security numbers who had obtained a license since 2001 at more than 45,600.

Department of Safety spokesperson Beth Denton says the department has been preparing 
and training for the change.
 



New Tennessee Driver License Law

2004-07-04 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/03/04 10:06 PM  
 Original Message  
Subject: RE: [Marxism] Kerry: no drivers licenses for illegals Date: 
Sat, 3 Jul 2004 21:51:55 -0400 
From: Jose G. Perez 
Until very recently, virtually no state mixed immigration matters with driver's 
licenses. 
Among other things, the Democrats snuck into the Immigration bill measures to 
transform state-issued drivers licenses into a national ID card/internal passport. The 
way it was instrumented was a) requiring fingerprinting and b) requiring a verified 
social security number to get drivers licenses. 
José 
 
Driver's license changes 
By Skip Cauthorn, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
June 30, 2004 

Starting Thursday, those wishing to obtain a Tennessee driver's license will have to 
go through the inconvenience of providing an original birth certificate and several 
other documents to be eligible. The change is one of many new state laws to become 
effective Thursday. 

Those who have renewed a Tennessee license at least once in the past will not be 
affected by the change. However, those who didn't first obtain a license prior to 
January of 2001, should be ready to produce several pieces of information including an 
official birth certificate (no photocopies) or passport, two proofs of identity, two 
proofs of residency and a Social Security number. 

Those without a Social Security number will have to sign an affidavit stating they 
have never had one. Under the new law, driver's licenses will not be issued to those 
who aren't a legal citizen or permanent resident. Instead anyone who can't prove their 
status will be issued a driver's certificate. 

The law's first effective date was May 29, when the issuance of driver's licenses to 
those who couldn't prove citizenship was discontinued. Those that fell into this 
category since May 29 may pick up a driver's certificate, a state issued document 
not to be used as identification, as early as Thursday. 

Gov. Phil Bredesen, whose administration presented the legislation to the General 
Assembly months ago, says the law is necessary in addressing Homeland Security 
concerns despite an inconvenience to motorists. I would love to have an answer that 
really is convenient for everybody [but] the Homeland Security aspect of that * really 
trumped all the other issues, said Bredesen Monday. I certainly understand it's an 
inconvenience for some people; it's an inconvenience for everybody who has to bring a 
copy of a birth certificate to get the licenses. * But I think it's an important move 
to get us to be * from one of the loosest states to one of the tightest states. 

The new law is the latest in what has been a controversial issue since the General 
Assembly passed legislation in 2001 allowing those without Social Security numbers to 
obtain a Tennessee driver license. At the time the state Department of Safety 
supported the law saying it was safer to allow illegal aliens the ability to obtain a 
license, as they would have to pass all standard testing. 

Opponents of the measure argued that non-citizens shouldn't be allowed a license and 
criticized the long lines that resulted at testing stations. Those who obtained a 
license since Jan. 1, 2001, and can't prove citizenship or permanent residency, must 
upon expiration exchange their license for the new certificate. 

A recent Department of Safety figure set the number of motorists without Social 
Security numbers who had obtained a license since 2001 at more than 45,600. 

Department of Safety spokesperson Beth Denton says the department has been preparing 
and training for the change. 
--
Please Note: 
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees 
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request. 
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: the Democratic Leadership Council wing of the Green party

2004-07-04 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/02/04 7:44 PM 
On Nader's
site, a major push is for impeachment of the current Resident. in
Chief. In my mind this is the only viable defensive action available
to the American people at the moment. When Bush gets his second term,
even that avenue will be gone -- in his mind (which hears God telling
him to go to war), Bush will have been given permission to do
whatever he wants. And his is the closest stuck-up finger to nuclear
holocaust.
Dan Scanlan


recall that late henry gonzalez (dem congressman from west texas) filed
numerous articles of impeachment against bush the first...

while you've not intended it, above comment re. bush second term could
be seen by some as reason to vote for kerry (or any dem at all)...
michael



--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


United Mine Workers strike forces rehiring of Utah miners

2004-07-03 Thread Michael Hoover
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004
Subject:  Utah miners, United Mine Workers strike forces rehiring of
Utah miners

This was a small strike that won wide support in the labor movement and
highlights the growing possibilities for union organizing in the western
mines and among immigrant and other workers.  It is a significant part
of the new beginnings of popular anti-imperialist resistance in the
world today, which include the antiwar and immigrant-rights protests,
the challenges to US occupation in Iraq, and the Venezuelan revolution.

Fred Feldman

The Militant
July 20, 2004 (two-week issue)

Bosses are forced to rehire
striking Utah coal miners
UMWA announces breakthrough in union-organizing battle

'On toward victory in union election in August,' Utah miners say

Co-Op miners describe advance at Colorado event on Ludlow massacre
BY ANNE CARROLL
AND GUILLERMO ESQUIVEL

HUNTINGTON, Utah-In a major breakthrough for the United Mine Workers of
America (UMWA) organizing battle at the Co-Op mine here, the union
received a draft settlement from the National Labor Relations Board
(NLRB) that orders C.W. Mining Co. to reinstate all of the 75 miners who
were illegally fired last September. With most of the Co-Op strikers
back to work before mid-July, the chances increase that the UMWA will
win the NLRB-mandated union election that will be held sometime in
August, workers report.

On June 21, two bosses from the Co-Op mine hand delivered letters to the
striking miners giving them an unconditional offer to return to work.
The letter stated that workers must let the company know by July 6 if
they are returning to their jobs and that they must report to work no
later than July 12.

It's a victory: we won the right to go back to work, said striker
Domingo Olivas. All the work we've done up to this point puts us in a
good position to win the UMWA inside the mine. We hope the miners who
are already working inside will be with us.

Rather than reporting separately, we will all march together to the
mine on July 6 and let the Co-Op bosses know we are coming back united,
said Bill Estrada, one of the strike leaders. We are inviting all
strike supporters to Huntington to march with us that day and celebrate.
Fifteen retired UMWA members were the first to tell us they will be
there. We look forward to doing everything possible to win the union
election in August.

On Sept. 22, 2003, 75 coal miners were fired from their jobs at the
Co-Op mine, owned by C.W. Mining. They were fired because they had
contacted the UMWA about getting a union organized at the mine. The
miners were being paid between $5.15 and $7.00 an hour with no benefits.


A company union has existed at the mine for many years. Workers have
submitted evidence that the officers of this union are bosses and are
related to the Kingstons, the wealthy family that owns the mine.

The strikers report that the settlement agreement from the NLRB clearly
states that any type of intimidation or harassment of pro-union miners
by the Co-Op management is illegal. The document states that the
agreement must be visibly posted at the mine for 60 days.

This is important because this is what led to the wholesale firings last
September, workers say. Prior to that date, the miners had been talking
to UMWA organizers about how to get a real union organized at the mine.
Bosses began harassing and suspending the miners for this activity. They
had cornered miners alone underground and questioned them about the
meetings they were having with the UMWA.

The bosses also tried to disrupt a meeting the strikers had organized
outside the mine, and had threatened workers, most of whom are
immigrants from Mexico, with sending the immigration police after them.
When they learned of the company threats, the strikers changed the time
and location of that meeting. When the miners returned to Huntington
after their gathering, they say they saw the bosses standing in front of
the old location waiting for the meeting to begin.

The settlement explicitly prohibits any of these practices, workers say.
It states that the employers must refrain even from watching the
workers, or from giving them the impression they are being watched,
while participating in union activities.

On Sept. 23, 2003, the UMWA filed charges with the NLRB stating that all
75 miners were fired illegally for union activity. The national labor
board upheld the charge in its ruling.

The NLRB made the decision nine months into the workers' strike, which
has continued to win broader support in the labor movement throughout
the country.

The miners also reported that the draft settlement includes a back pay
order, the exact details of which are being negotiated and may be
settled in court. The settlement reportedly states that employees have
the right to pursue any legal claims they may have against the company
because of loss of wages or other benefits.

Strikers said that as soon as they received the news, they began
contacting all the miners 

Floridians for All Submits 900,000 Signatures to Raise Minimum Wage

2004-07-03 Thread Michael Hoover
FLORIDIANS FOR ALL
A Campaign to Raise the Minimum Wage

Embargoed until Friday, July 2nd at 12 AM

Contact:Joe Johnson: 727-542-3498


Floridians for All Submits 900,000 Petitions to Raise the Minimum Wage!

On Friday, July 2nd Floridians for All, a coalition of community and
labor
organizations will submit the 900,000th petition collected in favor of
raising the minimum wage in Florida. This total is nearly double the
required 488,722 signatures. Over the past six months, volunteers and
petitioners have spread out across the state, from Tallahassee to Miami,
Jacksonville to Naples collecting signatures from voters who support
raising the Florida minimum wage to $6.15/hr plus indexing to inflation.

The federal minimum wage is currently $5.15, and Congress has not
adjusted
it for inflation in six years.  During that time, the number of states
with
minimum wage laws higher than the federal has jumped from six to 12 and
now
Floridians can have the opportunity to raise wages for over 300,000
working
families.

People that have signed the petition have expressed optimism and
confidence that Floridians should have the opportunity to vote on this
issue, said Joe Johnson, manager of the campaign, and we see strong
support for this across the board, from Democrats, Republicans and
Independents. Voters tell us that raising the minimum wage is the right
thing to do, and they are excited about signing the petition.

The next step in the campaign is the verification of petitions by local
elections officials. As of today, 226,642 petitions have been validated
by
elections officials and submitted to the Secretary of State. Elections
offices have until August 3rd at 5:00 p.m. to submit validated
signatures
to the Secretary of State.

For more information about raising the minimum wage and Floridians for
All,
go to our website at http://www.floridiansforall.org

Stephanie Porta
Head Organizer
Central Florida ACORN
407-254-5912
407-592-4784
http://www.acorn.org
http://www.floridiansforall.org


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Safe State Politics

2004-07-03 Thread Michael Hoover
doesn't matter which alternative candidate one votes for in so-called
safe states (for either kerry or bush), vote for nader in such states is
no more significant than vote for swp, wwp, sp, etc...

such prez vote takes little, if any, political will at all, what do
folks do for 'down' ballot elections, from u.s. senate, u.s. house 
state governor to state cabinet, state leg., and local partisan
races...in most cases, folks vote dem because they have no other choice
except to not vote, and if alternative candidate exists, they face
familiar dillemma - if i vote my top choice, i may be helping rep win...

fwiw: i've been making this argument for as long as i can remember,
florida has not been 'in play' for most prez elections, having gone rep
except for a couple of times since eisenhower was elected in 52, of
course, 2000 was different and appears that  2004 will be as well,
florida is perhaps idiomatic 'split' state...

fwiw2: florida dems still hold lead (43% to 41%) over reps in voter reg
(down from about 75% to 25% 30 years ago), dem percentage includes
'dixiecrats' who have
never changed registration but vote republican...

michael hoover (who is checking in from ann arbor these days where
young,
alternative (albeit spruced up a bit, kinda neat  tidy) looking folks
are doing legwork for kerry, reminds me a bit of 'clean for gene' in 68,
of course. mccarthy
was opposed to that war)

June 25, 2004
Contrary to What You've Heard...
Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn Plan to Vote for Ralph Nader
By GREG BATES (Common Courage Press)

Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn have stated many times that they favor
ousting Bush this election, even if John Kerry is Bush-lite. And that
stand has
been repeatedly used by progressives opposed to Ralph Nader's campaign.

However, Chomsky and Zinn, both residents of John Kerry's home state of
Massachusetts, say they plan to vote for Ralph Nader.

This may come as a surprise to those who have trotted out Chomsky in an
effort to blunt Nader. One example is Jeff Cohen, the founder of the
media watch group FAIR (and by way of disclosure, is an author along
with both
Chomsky and Zinn at Common Courage Press at which this reporter is
Publisher). As Cohen stated on Commondreams.org May 7, Progressives
need
to be a bridge forward, not an obstruction. Noam Chomsky has described
the
choice we face: 'Help elect B ush, or do something to try to prevent
it.'


To cite another example, Doug Henwood, the publisher of the Left
Business
Observer wrote in April, ...as Noam Chomsky puts it, to the distress of
his many fans, given the magnitude of U.S. power, 'small differences can
translate into large outcomes.'

But in response to an email query from this reporter, Chomsky wrote,
Voting for Nader in a safe state is fine. That's what I'll do. I don't
see how
anyone could read what I wrote and think otherwise, just from the
elementary logic of it. Voting for Nader in a safe state is not a vote
for Bush. The
point I made had to do with (effectively) voting for Bush.

Chomsky also made clear how he views the election in the context of
other
efforts for change: Activist movements, if at all serious, pay
virtually
no attention to which faction of the business party is in office, but
continue with their daily work, from which election s are a diversion --
which we
cannot ignore, any more than we can ignore the sun rising; they exist.

In another email exchange, Howard Zinn stated, I will vote for Nader
because Mass. is a safe state. And voters in 'safe states' should not
vote for Kerry. He also notes, I don't have faith in Kerry changing,
but
with Kerry there is a possibility that a powerful social movement might
change
him. With Bush, no chance.

The question of Kerry's receptivity to social movements deserves serious
consideration, discussed further in the book from which this article is
adapted. But returning to the issue of voting for Kerry in safe states,
the impact of the Electoral College is virtually absent in discussions
about
Nader's run.

As BusinessWeek June 14 2004 points out, 75% of voters live in safe
states. Voters casting a ballot for Kerry in those states, regardless of
the
message they intend to send, will be perceived by the Democratic
National
Committee as endorsing the Kerry platform of war and moving the
Democrats to the
right. Meanwhile, voters in safe states have the opportunity to send a
message that Kerry's platform is unacceptable, without risking throwing
the election to Bush.

Greg Bates is the publisher of Common Courage Press and the author of
Ralph's Revolt: the Case for Joining Nader's Rebellion, from which this
essay has been
excerpted. Bates can be reached at:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon

Torture: Bush Reaps What Kennedy Sowed

2004-07-03 Thread Michael Hoover
Torture: Bush Reaps What Kennedy Sowed
By Steve Weissman
t r u t h o u t | Perspective 

Thursday 24 June 2004 

New photos of American soldiers raping and killing Iraqis will likely emerge in 
the coming days, as Secretary Rumsfeld obliquely warned us weeks ago. Far more graphic 
than any images we have yet seen, they will again drag Team Bush through the mud, 
further mocking their claims to uphold human rights and mucking up their celebration 
of Iraqi sovereignty. 

Taking the scandal beyond coercive interrogation, the new horror show will make 
real the brutality that war brings out, especially against men and women who look, 
dress, talk, eat, and worship in ways that seem so foreign. In young soldiers from 
Kansas and West Virginia, we will see the same contempt that European conquerors 
showed in their colonial flings, even as they preached the Word of God or the Values 
of Western Civilization. In jargon of an electronic age, we will hear the 
blood-curdling echoes of earlier American heroes wresting control of an entire 
continent from those who lived there before, not to mention those pumped-up imperial 
forays across the Pacific and into Latin America. 

Remember Manifest Destiny and the White Man's Burden, the high-minded phrases that 
hid the old down-and-dirty? War on Terror, Democracy (of an export kind), and the New 
American Century follow in the same tradition, celebrated or despised depending on 
which side of the boot one sees and who ends up with the oil. Only now, most of the 
world - and growing numbers of Americans - want to shed the whole bloody business. 

Which brings us back to those coercive interrogation techniques. Call them stress 
and duress, torture-lite, or just plain torture, they remain central to America's 
colonial adventures from Vietnam to Iraq. 

When John F. Kennedy entered the White House in 1961, he and his advisors looked 
warily at the growing nationalism in the old European colonies. Self-proclaimed 
communists - like Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam or Fidel Castro in Cuba - raised a red flag, 
while even non-communists - like Sukarno in Indonesia - threatened Western control of 
oil and strategic minerals. 

JFK responded by sending several thousand more Americans into Southeast Asia and 
proclaiming his Alliance for Progress in Latin America. Scholars and conspiracy 
addicts still speculate on whether he would have further escalated or pulled out of 
Vietnam had he not been killed, but his impact south of the border became obvious 
early on. Whatever his original intent, his liberal sounding Alliance helped native 
elites stave off needed reforms, defended yanqui corporations, and strengthened local 
armies. Six military coups overthrew civilian governments before he died, and a 
seventh took control in Brazil a few months after. 

JFK favored the kind of muscular foreign policy that today's neo-conservatives 
push, and many of them at the time supported his approach, whatever the human cost or 
long-range consequences. 

Both in Vietnam and Latin America, Kennedy relied heavily on American military 
advisors, many of them Green Berets, in whom he showed enormous interest. They knew 
how to withstand torture. They also knew how to apply it - and how to teach client 
armies to do the same. 

Fighting in foreign lands against rebels who often had at-least passive support 
from their people, the US advisors and the armies they trained needed to produce 
intelligence on the run. Torture, or coercive interrogation, was one way to get it. 

Whether to elicit information or simply to terrorize the opposition, torture had 
historically played a role in holding down rebellious population. But, always in 
character, the New Frontier brought new thinking to bear. 

The theory came initially from the CIA's Office of Science and Technology, which 
spent a fortune studying how to make unwilling people talk. Starting in the 1950s, the 
spooky scientists tested LSD and other drugs, brainwashing, hypnosis, polygraphs, 
electric shock, and a wide range of other physical and psychological pressures. 

They also borrowed from the French, who perfected their torture techniques in 
losing colonial wars against the Vietnamese and Algerians. No doubt, the British 
cousins also offered ideas from their equally nasty effort to hold an empire 
together. 

The CIA summed up this macabre research in a classified manual they called KUBARK 
Counter Intelligence Interrogation - July 1963. KUBARK was code for the CIA, which 
used the ideas in its murderous Operation Phoenix in Vietnam. The US military also 
used the manual extensively, notably at Fort Benning's School of the Americas, 
teaching it to upcoming officers from throughout the hemisphere and helping create the 
most notorious tyrants and torturers. 

One passage strikes almost everyone who sees it: In choosing an interrogation 
site, the electric current should be 

Re: Saddam on TV

2004-07-02 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/01/04 7:50 PM 
I saw Hussein on TV this morn
Ken.

most significant feature of hussein's appearance in court was u.s. flag
in corner of room, media made big deal of u.s. military personnel
'retreating' after bringing him
in but i've not seen anyone allude even in passing to u.s. flag...

hussein's trial at this time (on u.s. tv, no less) is for bush campaign
(yeah, yeah, i know the interim gov't wanted to expedite things, blah,
blah, blah)...
michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: Kerry: no drivers licenses for illegals

2004-07-02 Thread Michael Hoover
Kerry: No licenses for illegal immigrants
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
By Nedra Pickler, salon.com
July 1, 2004 | Pittsburgh --
Democrat John Kerry said he opposes state laws that give driver's
licenses to illegal immigrants, a position that puts him at odds with
the Hispanic activists he is courting in the presidential race.


above issue led some affluent, white dem party voters in california to
vote
to recall gov. gray davis *and* to vote for steroid man to replace
him...

apparently, these folks are 'tolerant' re. legal immigration but draw
line when it comes to recognizing that undocumented have any rights...
michael hoover




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: election concern

2004-07-02 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/04 9:27 PM 
Voting official seeks process for canceling Election Day over terrorism
Friday, June 25, 2004
BY ERICA WERNER
ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON - The government needs to establish guidelines for
canceling or rescheduling elections if terrorists strike the United
States again, says the chairman of a new federal voting commission.


didn't nixon's people have contingency plan to cancel 72 elections in
event
of 'domestic disturbances'...   michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: bushites and nader

2004-07-02 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/04 9:25 PM 
That's nothing in comparison to Gore inspiring more than 200,000
registered Democrats in Florida to crossover and vote for George W. Bush
in the last election. The Democrats should not worry about the tiny
number of Democrats who vote for Nader. They should try to figure out
how to get Democrats to stop voting in massive numbers for Republicans.


re. florida dems voting for bush in 2000, believe i was first to make
the
point (among some others), in post-election articles in local 'orlando
weekly' rag...

about 87% of dem voters nationwide voted for gore, about 94% of rep
voters
nationwide voted for bush, reps have history of stronger voter
loyalty...

in florida, some of those who voted for bush have been voting rep for
several
decades, particularly true in panhandle where more than a few
conservative 'dixiecrats' have maintained dem voter registration even
though
they consistently vote rep...

fwiw: vice-prez position has not been a very good one for prez office
seekers,
only a few have been able to win election...

of course, gore did win popular vote both nationwide and in florida, and
he
ran to left of dlc who whined about that being reason he 'lost'...

ironically, in florida, gore lost if vote had been recounted *only* in 4
majority
dem counties that his people cynically pushed for but he won if the
entire state had been recounted...michael hoover


--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: the Democratic Leadership Council wing of the Green party

2004-07-02 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/04 10:44 PM 
Dan Scanlan writes
As a longtime Green activist with both a long term view and a quick
knee I have got to disagree. Nader's campaigns for President have
been strategic for long term betterment.
Dan Scanlan

thanks for informative, well-reasoned comments...

however, color me a cynic as i've a hunch that the sum of the parts that
you describe add up to less than suggested...

i probably should have acknowledged contribution of nader's campaigns to
increased number of statewide green parties (which may or may not mean
much re. resonance with larger public)...

green party will experience 'growing pains' if it is to have substantive
longevity rather than being another in long line of minor parties that
exist for years  years in what amounts to 'virtual space'...

perhaps cobb will do for green party what buchanan did for reform party,
leaving
little in his wake, but that won't happen if, in contrast to what
gertrude stein
said (unfairly, me thinks) about oakland, there's a there there...

in any event, cobb will receive any less media coverage, public
attention, and
votes than did nader, and if there's anyone left afterwards, they can
get down
to the difficult job of building a party...michael hoover




--
Please Note:
Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from 
College employees
regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon 
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.


Re: the Democratic Leadership Council wing of the Green party

2004-06-30 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/04 9:34 AM 
American Prospect
No Tie -- Cobb!
The true story of how a man you've barely heard of beat Ralph Nader for
the Green Party nomination.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
Web Exclusive: 06.28.04

Make no mistake: Had Nader chosen to fight for it over the past year, he
could have easily walked away with the Green Party nomination on
Saturday.

Into the political vacuum left by Nader's arms-length campaigning jumped
Cobb, running on a platform of support for state parties and local
candidates. For a party that draws heavily from the ranks of the
alienated and disaffected -- people who already feel ignored by
politicians -- Nader's decisions to eschew Green membership, not
participate in the presidential-primary process, and avoid the Milwaukee
convention were decisive. Nader, perhaps thinking himself a sure thing,
or so outsize a figure that a fair fight would require him to tie one
hand behind his back, failed to mount a campaign sufficient to win.

In short, though the Greens may be way outside the mainstream of
American political opinion, in the end the same laws of politics that
govern the two major parties held: In order to win, it helps to outfox
the other guy -- and to fight hard.


maybe there is place for poli sci people after all, many could have
written
above article beforehand...

i posted comments yesterday about why electoral campaigns are not good
vehicles for building mass movements, above article reflects those
remarks...

have never understood green party's desire for nader, he stiffed them in
96 by refusing to campaign, his 'party of person' campaign in 2000
failed
to reach 5% minimum in votes to qualify greens for matching funds in
04...

of course, he's a non (even anti) party guy and always has been, a
'common
cause' type, he's never been a member of green party, his prez campaigns
have not been about building a green party...

i'm not big green party fan myself, prefer politics of class to that of
inequality (latter gives no sense of belonging to group that can take
collective action, individuals are 'unequal'), but rejection of nader is
'good thing' if party is to have legs as 'party of idea'...   michael
hoover


Clarence Thomas Porno

2004-06-30 Thread Michael Hoover
for what it's worth...

noticed that thomas voted with supreme court majority yesterday in
opposition to
federal law re. pornography  children, his very first dissent from
conservative bloc
on court was in case involving porno (whether feds had entrapped some
guy to
purchase some stuff through mail), thomas rarely asks questions during
court
hearings no matter case issues and has little written record, but these
votes
(and several) others suggest that claims of his proclivity for porn may
have
merit... michael hoover


Re: presidential election

2004-06-29 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/22/04 3:29 PM 
Is the Nader campaign the best way to build the mass movements we need?
jd


no election campaign is 'best' way to build mass movements, they are too
periodic  episodic, too narrowly focused, running a campaign 'to make a
point' (or points) is self-defeating, takes too much time, effort,
money,
may leave something in their wake (i.e., a few voters) but their purpose
runs counter to building political movements, politicians/campaigns can
have 'organic' relationships with/to mass movements (or vice-versa) but
two
should remain independent of one another - politics of streets 
politics of
suites...michael hoover


  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   >