Re: New variable type: matrix

2000-08-26 Thread Buddha Buck
ix:bounds(3,3,3);" necessary? I don't know about you, but autovivication of array elements and boundlessness is a feature I like about perl. Why should "$array[1000] = $x" work without predeclaration but "$matrix[1000;1000;1000] = $x" shouldn't? Just my thou

Re: Proposed RFC for matrix indexing and slicing

2000-08-29 Thread Buddha Buck
At 12:33 PM 8/29/00 -0400, Karl Glazebrook wrote: You should have a look at the PDL RFC 117 before submitting this. It would be bad to have multiple RFCs suggesting the same thing. I just read PDL RFC 117, and your current argument with Dan aside... I don't see a problem. Here is the core of

Re: RFC 177 (v1) A Natural Syntax Extension For Chained References

2000-08-31 Thread Buddha Buck
At 05:35 PM 8/31/00 +, David L. Nicol wrote: Buddha Buck wrote: The array syntax would also be useful in multi-dimensional arrays. That is if multi-dimensional arrays are implemented as lists-of-lists, which they might not be. Even if they aren't implemented as lol, they may

Re: RFC 207 (v1) Array: Efficient Array Loops

2000-09-11 Thread Buddha Buck
At 12:00 AM 9/12/00 +1100, Jeremy Howard wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading through the examples left me wondering about some technicalities: @t[|i;|j] = @a[|j;|i]; # transpose 2-d @a Written like this it would require that @a is exact 2-dim, i.e. it would not just swap the

Notice of intent to freeze RFCs 204, 206, and revise 207

2000-09-19 Thread Buddha Buck
vide two different sets of functionality that partially overlap. Comments? Criticism? Complaints? Later, Buddha -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacophony

Re: RFC 231 (v1) Data: Multi-dimensional arrays/hashes and slices

2000-09-21 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:26 PM 9/21/00 -0400, Karl Glazebrook wrote: Finally as an overload expert what do you think about the proposals to make arrays overloadable objects so one can say things like: @x = 3 * @y; I can see that allowing expressions on @x would require considerable changes to perl

Re: RFC 231 (v1) Data: Multi-dimensional arrays/hashes and slices

2000-09-21 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:35 PM 9/21/00 -0400, Buddha Buck wrote: At 03:26 PM 9/21/00 -0400, Karl Glazebrook wrote: Finally as an overload expert what do you think about the proposals to make arrays overloadable objects so one can say things like: @x = 3 * @y; What do you think of: $x[|i] = 3 * $y

Re: RFC 218 (v1) Cmy Dog $spot is just an assertion

2000-09-14 Thread Buddha Buck
At 08:13 AM 9/15/00 +1100, Damian Conway wrote: Piers wrote: I'm kind of tempted to look at adding another pragma to go with 'use base' along the lines of: use implements 'Interface'; Which is almost entirely like Cuse base 'Interface' but with 'Interface'

Re: RFC 145 (alternate approach)

2000-09-06 Thread Buddha Buck
At 09:05 AM 9/6/00 -0400, David Corbin wrote: I'd suggest also, that (?[) (with no specified brackets) have the default meaning of the "four standard brackets" : (?['('=')','{'='}','['=']',''='') Note also the subtle syntax change. We are either dealing with strings or with patterns. The

Re: RFC 118 (v1) lvalue subs: parameters, explicit assignment, and wantarray() changes

2000-08-17 Thread Buddha Buck
At 07:04 PM 8/17/00 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote: Nathan Wiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most of the places I've seen them used really well is if they walk and talk like other forms: $cgi-param($var, @val); # traditional $cgi-param($var) = @val; # lvalue, but same thing I

Re: RFC 118 (v1) lvalue subs: parameters, explicit assignment, and wantarray() changes

2000-08-17 Thread Buddha Buck
At 05:49 AM 8/18/00 +1000, Damian Conway wrote: And I keep pointing out that this is only one aspect of lvalue subroutines. The point of an lvalue subroutine is not to make assignment to the return value work, it is to make the return value an *lvalue*. That's a much more general thing, because

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-03 Thread Buddha Buck
At 01:11 PM 8/3/00 -0500, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: BTW, I propose that RFCs have a Status: field as part of the VERSION. Here are some possible values that I can see: Status: accepted # we all agree that it should go in Status: rejected # we all agree that it shouldn't go in Status:

Re: RFC: Rename local() operator

2000-08-06 Thread Buddha Buck
roblem is that local() changes the value for somewhere else as well as here. Other names suggested (like "shadow", or "mask") convey that idea better than "here". ? -Nate -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Just

Re: RFC 91 (v1) Builtin: partition

2000-08-11 Thread Buddha Buck
At 05:33 PM 8/11/00 +0100, Graham Barr wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 03:36:21PM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: This and other RFCs are available on the web at http://dev.perl.org/rfc/ =head1 TITLE Builtin: partition =head1 VERSION Maintainer: Jeremy Howard [EMAIL

Re: RFC 91 (v1) Builtin: partition

2000-08-11 Thread Buddha Buck
Buddha Buck wrote: Or... Let's say you had a 3x3 array implemented as follows: @array = ( a1, a2, a3, b1, b2, b3, c1, c2, c3 ); unzip(3,@array) would return the columns. partition(3,@array) would return the rows. Nice example! I think this better

Re: RFC 99 (v2) Standardize ALL Perl platforms on UNIX epoch

2000-08-15 Thread Buddha Buck
. Leap-seconds are a PITA for generic time routines. chaim -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacophony of the unfettered speech the First Amendment pro

Re: RFC 107 (v1) lvalue subs should receive the rvalue as an argument

2000-08-15 Thread Buddha Buck
r); chaim "BB" == Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BB sub foo : lvalue($newval) { BB # $newval is a lexical scaler in this block, initialised with a BB reference BB # to the value to be assigned to $self{foo} BB my $self = shift; BB return $self{foo} unless defined

Re: RFC 99 (v2) Standardize ALL Perl platforms on UNIX epoch

2000-08-16 Thread Buddha Buck
At 10:37 AM 8/16/00 -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote: "BB" == Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BB If we have to pick and epoch in an OS-neutral way, I think I for one BB would be happy with something like this in the docs for the time BB functions: Would you be happy with the follo

Re: ME

2000-08-23 Thread Buddha Buck
Buddha Buck wrote: Perhaps someone should RFC the new special variable ME, which is predefined to be the whole program. Who knows? Perhaps it would then make sense to use @_ at the top level, as if the program was invoked as "ME(@ARGV);"... on -objects it has been propos

Re: RFC 177 (v1) A Natural Syntax Extension For Chained References

2000-08-29 Thread Buddha Buck
www.shoebox.net Programmer, System Administrator www.gallanttech.com -- -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacophony of the unfettered speech the

Re: Out-of-core format syntax (was Re: Globs, (brrr) scalar filehandles, prototypes.)

2000-08-30 Thread Buddha Buck
again when it posts. My goal was to make formats look 90% like Perl 5 without requiring any special syntax, and it works pretty well, but it's definitely not a complete RFC yet. -Nate -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Just as the strength of the Intern

Re: RFC 179 (v1) More functions from set theory to manipulate arrays

2000-09-01 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:40 PM 9/1/00 +0200, Gael Pegliasco wrote: Arrays are ordered. Hashes are not. Neither are sets. Arrays can have repetitions. Hashes can not. Neither can sets. etc. --tom Yes, this is true, but the natural syntax, for me, to manipulate sets,

Re: RFC 177 (v1) A Natural Syntax Extension For Chained References

2000-08-31 Thread Buddha Buck
At 05:35 PM 8/31/00 +, David L. Nicol wrote: Buddha Buck wrote: The array syntax would also be useful in multi-dimensional arrays. That is if multi-dimensional arrays are implemented as lists-of-lists, which they might not be. Even if they aren't implemented as lol, they may

Re: RFC 33 (v2) Eliminate bareword filehandles.

2000-09-06 Thread Buddha Buck
At 12:50 PM 9/6/00 -0500, David L. Nicol wrote: I see barewords as being whatever the programmer wants them to be, as long as he makes it clear what he expects the word to be before using it. So, Copen becomes a legacy constructor and the perl6 version of it would be something like my

Re: pack/unpack is damn unperlish. Explain them as Perl.

2000-09-19 Thread Buddha Buck
At 07:29 AM 9/19/00 -0700, Dave Storrs wrote: I guess, if I had to write an explanation of pack/unpack based on my limited understanding, it would be something like: "Unpack takes binary data in some particular format and disassembles it, assigning various pieces of it to

Re: RFC 263 (v1) Add null() keyword and fundamental data type

2000-09-21 Thread Buddha Buck
At 02:39 AM 9/21/00 -0700, Glenn Linderman wrote: Thanks, Paris, for your intervention, although I fear it was too late. Well, since Tom claims to have put me in his kill file, he may never see this. But for the record... Tom Christiansen wrote: Can't we all just play nice? Apparently

Re: perl6storm #0050

2000-09-27 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:35 PM 9/27/00 -0400, John Porter wrote: Piers Cawley wrote: You know, I'm trying to see what's annoying about all those parentheses in the lisp function and what do you know, I can't see anything wrong. Okay, so it's not Perl syntax, but it's still clear what's going on. Yes, but

Re: RFC 357 (v2) Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD

2000-10-04 Thread Buddha Buck
At 08:36 AM 10/4/00 -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote: =head1 TITLE Perl should use XML for documentation instead of POD =head1 VERSION Status: Frozen I'm sorry, I was gonna bite my lip, but I've gotta say: Freezing RFC's like this when the following is true: A lot of good, heated

Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1

2001-04-14 Thread Buddha Buck
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:11:12PM -0400, John Porter wrote: Dan Sugalski wrote: I personally would rather that perl 6 handle perl 6 code only, and leave the compilation and interpretation of perl 5 code to perl 5. FWIW, I agree 100% with

Re: Dot can DWIM without whitespace

2001-04-25 Thread Buddha Buck
Edward Peschko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: beautiful. Then extending this is simple, consistent, easy to read, compatible with perl5.. I'm not sure that that was the point I was trying to make. If nothing else, the '.' would then be responsible for *three* different actions.

Re: Curious: - vs .

2001-04-26 Thread Buddha Buck
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bart Lateur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:52:47 -0600 (MDT), Dan Brian wrote: So why not $object!method(foo, bar); In my opinion, because it doesn't provide sufficient

Re: Curious: - vs .

2001-04-27 Thread Buddha Buck
Bart Lateur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 26 Apr 2001 23:19:49 -0400, Buddha Buck wrote: $bar = [$obj method() ]; # method call $bar = method $obj() would be more consistent with perl's current $object = new Class() syntax. Yes, well, some people want to get rid

Re: Curious: - vs .

2001-04-27 Thread Buddha Buck
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about borrowing from Objective C? [$object method(foo, bar)]; How do you create an anonymous

Re: apo 2

2001-05-04 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:00 PM 05-04-2001 +0100, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:51:53AM -0400, John Porter wrote: And btw . . . Wouldn't $thing has property make more sense than $thing is property $foo has true doesn't flow as well as $foo is true. Dunno quite what

RE: apo 2

2001-05-04 Thread Buddha Buck
At 10:49 AM 05-04-2001 -0500, Garrett Goebel wrote: From: Buddha Buck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 03:00 PM 05-04-2001 +0100, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:51:53AM -0400, John Porter wrote: And btw . . . Wouldn't $thing has property make more

Re: Tying Overloading

2001-04-23 Thread Buddha Buck
At 07:44 PM 04-23-2001 +0100, Graham Barr wrote: Hm, I would expect @() in a scalar context to give the same result as @tmp = @(...); $x = @tmp; That is, yeild the number of elements in the list. I can see this. But unless there is a good reason, that seems like a less-than-optimal

Re: Separate as keyword? (Re: 'is' and action at a distance)

2001-05-18 Thread Buddha Buck
At 01:34 PM 05-18-2001 -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote: Dammit, I got the example exactly backwards. Try this: $Foo is true; $Foo = 0; print Stuff if $Foo; # *WOULD* print - is assigns a # permanent true property $Foo as true = ; $Foo

Re: Exegesis2 and the is keyword

2001-05-18 Thread Buddha Buck
Austin Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let it be. Not a flame, but a suggestion: let $pi be constant; Personally, I'd rather save let for: (let ($x,$y,$z,...) = (1,2,3,...) in { ... }) which would be equivilant to: ((sub {my ($x,$y,$z,...) = @_; ... })(1,2,3,...)) Many

Re: 1 until defined(getvalue()); return it;

2001-05-30 Thread Buddha Buck
At 06:54 PM 05-30-2001 +0100, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:38:50PM -0500, David L. Nicol wrote: while pseudocoding something I realized that it would be really cool if there was another magical default shelf, like $_ or _ but subtly different, that stores, if

Re: http://www.ora.com/news/vhll_1299.html

2001-07-09 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:07 PM 07-09-2001 -0400, Adam Turoff wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 02:36:17PM -0400, Sam Tregar wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Adam Turoff wrote: Don't laugh. It's here now. It's called XSLT. :-) Um, that's not what the article was talking about The proposal is to use an XML

Re: http://www.ora.com/news/vhll_1299.html

2001-07-09 Thread Buddha Buck
At 03:55 PM 07-09-2001 -0400, Adam Turoff wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:48:27PM -0400, Buddha Buck wrote: Why can't a general-purpose programming language be augmented with XML for internal documentation purposes? You mean like C#? :-) I wasn't specifically referring to that; I

Re: Circular references

2001-08-01 Thread Buddha Buck
At 01:01 PM 08-01-2001 -0600, Sterin, Ilya wrote: I was just wondering if there will be any solution for the circular refernece memory leak (I guess you can call it a problem). Can't we keep information on the number of circular references in the SV structure and then decrement the references

Re: Circular references

2001-08-01 Thread Buddha Buck
As a necrohipposadist (beater of dead horses), I'll add... Sterin, Ilya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well guess not, since something like this... { my ($a, $b, $c); $a = \$b; $b = \$c; $c = \$a; } would definitelly be hard, resource consuming to implement a circular

Re: Math functions? (Particularly transcendental ones)

2001-09-08 Thread Buddha Buck
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, I'm whipping together the fancy math section of the interpreter assembly language. I've got: snip Can anyone think of things I've forgotten? It's been a while since I've done numeric work. Uri mentioned exp(x) = e^x, but I think if you are

Re: Apoc4: The loop keyword

2002-01-25 Thread Buddha Buck
At 11:40 AM 01-25-2002 -0600, Jonathan Scott Duff you wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 11:57:25AM +0100, Bart Lateur wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:43:07 -0500, Damian Conway wrote: What we're cleaning up is the ickiness of having things declared outside the braces be lexical to the braces.

Re: Perl6 Macros

2002-03-27 Thread Buddha Buck
work perfectly offhand (I suspect some syntax tweaking would be necessary) but it's the basic idea I think you are going for. -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will not die an ironic death -- Scott Ian, lead singer for the metal band Anthrax, after bioterrorist attacks using

Re: Please rename 'but' to 'has'.

2002-04-23 Thread Buddha Buck
At 08:58 AM 04-23-2002 -0700, Larry Wall wrote: Precedence is set with the like' property: my sub operator:now ($a,$b) is like(but) is inline { $a but $b } sub operator:also ($a,$b) is like(and) is inline { $a and $b } OK, but that limits you to the, um, 24 standard levels of

Re: Please rename 'but' to 'has'.

2002-04-23 Thread Buddha Buck
At 01:12 PM 04-23-2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 24 levels of precedence should be enough, else you can always resort to parens. I would have agreed, except that I would have also said that the 14 precedence levels of C should be enough as well -- yet we seem to have discovered uses

Re: Please rename 'but' to 'has'.

2002-04-26 Thread Buddha Buck
At 09:45 AM 04-26-2002 -0700, Larry Wall wrote: Tim Bunce writes: : For perl at least I thought Larry has said that you'll be able to : create new ops but only give them the same precedence as any one : of the existing ops. Close, but not quite. What I think I said was that you can't specify a

Re: Backslashes

2002-05-21 Thread Buddha Buck
At 01:10 PM 05-21-2002 -0400, Aaron Sherman wrote: On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 12:57, Michael G Schwern wrote: Here's an easier one: backslash followed by the delimiter is that thing. Everything else is literal. print 'c:\it\'s\easier\to\write\win32\paths\this\way'; print q{this is

Re: A5: Is this right?

2002-06-06 Thread Buddha Buck
At 11:31 AM 06-06-2002 -0700, Brent Dax wrote: #Preliminary Perl6::Regex # This does not have any actions, but otherwise I think is correct. # Let me know if it's right or not. I'm not a regex guru, but... use 6; grammar Perl6::Regex { rule metachar { [{(\[\])}:*+?\\|]

Re: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread Buddha Buck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Trey Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] no strict 'refs'; my Date $date; $date .= 'Sep 21, 1963'; There is a method name there--'Date::Sep 21, 1963'. But that's my point. You wouldn't have to put the method name or the class because the

Re: sub/method refs (was Re: auto deserialization)

2002-09-03 Thread Buddha Buck
Trey Harris wrote: In a message dated Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Buddha Buck writes: I suspect that, if it makes sense to say $foo = $date.method; then it would also make sense to say $date .= $foo; as well. Interesting, that first line $foo = $date.method; I need a bit of a refresher

Re: Private contracts?

2002-10-04 Thread Buddha Buck
Peter Haworth wrote: That *is* a logical weakening. Just because the inherited precondition is C x 10 , doesn't mean that the weakened condition has to be of the form C x 9 or any other value lower than 10. C a || b is weaker than C a So what we are looking at is something like

Re: [RFC] Perl6 HyperOperator List

2002-10-30 Thread Buddha Buck
Larry Wall wrote: Maybe we should just say that you can put it anywhere that makes sense, and let the perl parser sort out the sheep from the goats. The basic rule is that for any op, [op] is also expected in the same place. So if the user defines a postfix:! for factorial, they automatically

'for' clarification, summary...

2002-11-05 Thread Buddha Buck
Here's my current understanding of what's under discussion for for-loops: Larry wants to eliminate the ; from the RHS of the -, so the only thing for needs to know about the RHS is the number and types of the arguments. This puts the specification about how to generate those arguments on the

Re: list comprehensions

2002-11-06 Thread Buddha Buck
Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:54:12PM -0500, Mark J. Reed wrote: On 2002-11-06 at 11:43:20, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: Will there be some shorter-hand way to say these? a = grades[grep $_ = 90, grades]; b = grades[grep 80 = $_ 90, grades]; c = grades[grep 70 = $_

Re: list comprehensions

2002-11-06 Thread Buddha Buck
Piers Cawley wrote: Jonathan Scott Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will there be some shorter-hand way to say these? @a = @grades[grep $_ = 90, @grades]; @b = @grades[grep 80 = $_ 90, @grades]; @c = @grades[grep 70 = $_ 80, @grades]; Granted, it's fairly compact as it is but I'm

Re: Superpositions and laziness

2002-11-07 Thread Buddha Buck
Luke Palmer wrote: Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm From: Luke Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:49:14 -0700 (MST) X-SMTPD: qpsmtpd/0.12, http://develooper.com/code/qpsmtpd/ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 20:48:50 +1100 From: Damian Conway

Re: Superpositions and laziness

2002-11-08 Thread Buddha Buck
Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 05:30:00PM +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 03:04:16PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:22:17PM +1100, Damian Conway wrote: The name of the property is still under debate. Larry favours: sub square

Re: Comparing Object Identity (was: Re: Stringification of references (Decision, Please?))

2002-12-12 Thread Buddha Buck
(resent as requested) James Mastros wrote: Here's my basic defintion of ID: Two things should have the same ID if-and-only-if they will behave exactly the same, now and forevermore. Thus, there should be one ID for all constants of the same value, which is different from all constants of

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-08 Thread Buddha Buck
Luke Palmer wrote: I would, from the descriptions, imagine that: @keep ~ grep /good/ ~ @list ~ grep /bad!/ ~ @throw; Would parse as: @keep ~ grep /good/ ~ @list; @list ~ grep /bad!/ ~ @throw; Nope. ~ and ~ only *rearrange* arguments, so if you only type @list once, you can only do things

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-08 Thread Buddha Buck
Dave Whipp wrote: Something else springs to mind. Consider the Cfor syntax: for 1,2,3 ~ foo - $a { ... } Is there any way we could unify these two operators without creating ambiguities? If we could, then using straight arrows would be nicer to type than the squiggly ones. I think I see

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Buddha Buck
Mr. Nobody wrote: Unicode operators in the core are a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea. We've already had this discussion. We wouldn't be bringing up using unicode operators for this function if we hadn't already talked about unicode

Re: This week's Perl Summary

2003-01-14 Thread Buddha Buck
Mr. Nobody wrote: If you and Damian think you'll get me to leave p6l this easily, forget it. I've seen far worse flames than that. While you were the person that Damian lost his sense of humor at, Piers didn't identify you in this part of the summary. So I don't think Piers was trying to

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Buddha Buck
[Note: I originally sent this to Mr. Nobody alone, but that wasn't my intent. I'm re-sending it here, where I wanted it to go in the first place. -- bmb] Mr. Nobody wrote: trigraphs are actually better, even if you are unicode capable. ~ is far easier to type than ctrl-u-15F9E2A01 or

Re: L2R/R2L syntax

2003-01-17 Thread Buddha Buck
Michael Lazzaro wrote: So, to bring this thread back on track *again*, I hopefully offer this summary. 1) Damian's idea of using ~ and ~ as L2R and R2L is well-liked. Thus: @out = grep { ... } map { ... } @in; # (1) (perl5) becomes any of the following: @out =

Re: L2R/R2L syntax

2003-01-17 Thread Buddha Buck
Brent Dax wrote: Incorrect. The translation sequence is: @in ~ map { ... } ~ grep { ... } ~ @out ((@in ~ map { ... }) ~ grep { ... }) ~ @out ((@in.map({ ... })).grep({ ... })) ~ @out @out=((@in.map({ ... })).grep({ ... })) @[EMAIL PROTECTED]({ ... }).grep({ ... }) The only difference

Re: L2R/R2L syntax

2003-01-20 Thread Buddha Buck
Michael Lazzaro wrote: On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 09:51 PM, Luke Palmer wrote: From: Sean O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Michael Lazzaro wrote: So 'if' and friends are just (native) subroutines with prototypes like: IIRC it's not that pretty, unfortunately, if you

Re: Why Cmap needs work (was Re: L2R/R2L syntax)

2003-01-21 Thread Buddha Buck
Smylers wrote: Michael Lazzaro wrote: And it provides a very visual way to define any pipe-like algorithm, in either direction: $in - lex - parse - codify - optimize - $out; # L2R $out - optimize - codify - parse - lex - $in; # R2L It's clear, from looking at either of those,

Re: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Buddha Buck
Miko O'Sullivan wrote: The idea of discussion summaries has been well received, so I'm going to push forward with a few. I invite everyone here to join in. The idea is *not* that Miko writes summaries of every thread. The idea is that the proponent of an idea, or someone very interested in an

Re: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Buddha Buck
Miko O'Sullivan wrote: And how do these differ in concept to the RFC process Perl 6 has already gone through? Wouldn't it make sense, assuming that clean, final presentations of proposed ideas or features in Perl are useful, to re-open the RFC process? RFC's are proposals before the comments.

Re: A12: Conflicting Attributes in Roles

2004-04-21 Thread Buddha Buck
Originally sent to Austin alone by accident Austin Hastings wrote: -Original Message- From: Jonathan Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] role A {has Cat $.x;} role B {has Dog $.x;} class Foo {does Cat; does Dog;} my Foo $bar; $bar.x; # Is this a Cat or a Dog? A12 If, however, two roles

Re: This week's summary

2004-09-23 Thread Buddha Buck
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:11:02 +0100, The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 2004-09-17 Another week, another summary, and I'm running late. So: This week in perl6-compiler Bootstrapping the grammar Uri Guttman had some thoughts on

Re: Programming languages and copyright?

2006-10-23 Thread Buddha Buck
On 10/23/06, Markus Laire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/23/06, Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Laire writes: Does anyone know if programming languages are protected by copyright or not? Code can be copyrighted; ideas can't be. Yes, but the syntax of the programming language is

Re: Closures, compile time, pad protos

2006-11-24 Thread Buddha Buck
On 11/22/06, Anatoly Vorobey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, thanks a lot for your comments. On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 06:43:12PM -0500, Buddha Buck wrote: { my $x = something(); if $x==1 { ...code... } } My experience with other statically typed by extremely flexable

Re: MMD thoughts 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Buddha Buck
Sorry to reply to the wrong comment, but I lost the original thread in my mail archives and didn't notice this until now. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:54 PM, John M. Dlugosz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TSa Thomas.Sandlass-at-barco.com |Perl 6| wrote: The fundamental flaw of metric mmd is that it

Re: Amazing Perl 6

2009-05-29 Thread Buddha Buck
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Jon Lang datawea...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:52 AM, John Macdonald j...@perlwolf.com wrote: Yep, I've done that. But comparing the difference in effort between: - press a key - Google for a web page that has the right character set, cut,

renaming or adding some operators

2009-05-29 Thread Buddha Buck
Resending to list On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Darren Duncan dar...@darrenduncan.net wrote: I had some thoughts lately about the Perl 6 operators, and wanted to bounce some ideas. Secondly, regarding the Bool type, I think it would be useful for Perl 6 to define the full

Re-thinking file test operations

2009-07-09 Thread Buddha Buck
Resent to list as I intended to in the first place On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Darren Duncandar...@darrenduncan.net wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: A few months ago (or maybe more) I proposed making pathnames their own type, distinct from (or perhas a subclass of) strings, but easily

Re: time complexity of searching elements in hash tables in Perl

2009-08-22 Thread Buddha Buck
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Forrest Sheng Baoforrest@gmail.com wrote: Oh, I mean both Perl 5 and Perl 6. I couldn't find proper list to ask this question. So I asked in this list. I'm not sure perl6-language is the proper place to be asking about the time-complexity of hashes in Perl6,

Re: Temporal seems a bit wibbly-wobbly

2010-02-22 Thread Buddha Buck
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Ruoso dan...@ruoso.com wrote: The biggest difference proposed by the use of TAI is that when you ask for the number of seconds between 2008-12-31T23:59:59+ and 2009-01-01T00:00:00+ you'll get 2 because of the leap second. But you don't need to

Re: Tweaking junctions

2010-11-01 Thread Buddha Buck
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Moritz Lenz mor...@faui2k3.org wrote: On 10/22/2010 06:16 AM, Damian Conway wrote: That is, a C$value is an eigenstate of a C$junction if-and-only-if:     $value !~~ Junction    $value ~~ $junction In general this definition makes it impossible to return a

Re: dimensionality in Perl 6

2010-11-18 Thread Buddha Buck
Jon Lang asked me if I intended to send this message to him privately. The answer is No... -- Forwarded message -- From: Buddha Buck blaisepas...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM Subject: Re: dimensionality in Perl 6 To: Jon Lang datawea...@gmail.com On Thu, Nov

Re: dimensionality in Perl 6

2010-11-18 Thread Buddha Buck
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Jon Lang datawea...@gmail.com wrote: Buddha Buck wrote: I don't think a Num is necessary, but I could see a Rat. As is, is Duration implemented by means of a Num, or a Rat?  Whichever it is, that's the type that the difference of two Instances would return