Re: Why modifing the Artistic license is a good idea (was Re: licensing issues)

2001-01-15 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
hackers at companies to ever have to say: "I wanted to use and ship Perl, but the company lawyers weren't comfortable with perl's license, so I didn't." I think the proposed AL-2.0 will have better success in this regard than the current AL. -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/b

Re: Making sure Perl means Perl (was Re: licensing issues)

2001-01-15 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
not be by personality inclined to seek legal redress even if it were clearly within his rights to do so. Well, I don't think there's much point in inferring what Larry will do. An RFC concerning the trademark/service mark is under his advisement---we'll just have to see what he says. -- Bradley M. Kuhn

Re: no one is asking for Perl to be GPL-only (was Re: licensing issues)

2001-01-15 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
"Bradley M. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FSF surely wants Perl to be under a GPL compatible license (and, (GPL|SOMETHING) is always GPL-compatible, by default). I don't think the FSF has ever expressed a desire that Perl be GPL-only. In fact, the FSF has a policy of e

Re: no one is asking for Perl to be GPL-only (was Re: licensing issues)

2001-01-15 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
, but if people are unclear about why the RFCs were written as they were, then it's worth discussing it. -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

Making sure Perl means Perl (was Re: licensing issues)

2001-01-14 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
trademark license require that if they call it "Perl", it really is the canonical Perl implementation. (I believe I wrote an RFC that proposed this; it's presumably currently under Larry's advisement). -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-09 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
community to get what it wants. The question was: "Did the old Artistic license do what we wanted?" I argued "no" in my RFCs. Some folks argued "yes". We'll see what Larry decides. -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-08 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
in was (Artistic-2.0|GPL). -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-07 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
these lawyers? Every lawyer I have ever met things it is legally sound, including those lawyers who are trying to find ways to violate it! -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

licensing issues (was Re: standard representations)

2001-01-05 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: I personally think that the relying on LGPL'ed code is completely reasonable. Some will disagree, so we need to come to a consensus on this as a community. Andy Dougherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. What are the consequences for those who

Re: RFC 354 (v1) A Trademark on Perl Should be Acquired in Larry Wall's Name

2000-10-06 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
, to Yet Another Society? (http://yetanother.org/) It's an independent society set up by Kevin Lenzo and some Perl luminaries to promote and protect Perl. That's a good idea. I wish you'd have mentioned it while the RFC could still be changed. :) -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn

Re: RFC idea

2000-09-30 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
the best it can to reach this goal. I have seen few comments on it, though. Ben, how do you feel about it? Chris? -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

Deadline for all RFCs? If so, why?

2000-09-19 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
seems like that group will just get started when the language freezes, so there doesn't seem any reason to freeze internals-RFCs by the deadline, either. So, it'd probably be good if we changed some of the deadlines on the various working groups to reflect reality. Comments? -- Bradley M. Kuh

Re: RFC 211 (v1) The Artistic License Must Be Changed

2000-09-15 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
o providing it on RTX11 8-inch floppies. Have you taken a look at the RFC I posted after that? It redefines "Reasonable Copying Fee" a bit better, I think. -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

Re: Lawyers and licenses

2000-09-14 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: Bradley M . Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Think of it as writing a Last Will and Testament---you can do it on your own in a pinch, but it's always better to write a draft and then have a lawyer help you rewrite it so it's more legally sound, because it is more

Re: A new AL proposal

2000-09-14 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
no remaining objections from copyright holders) relicense Perl really fly? I am not sure I understand the question; perhaps I failed to read some of the relevant discussion. Could you take a minute and point me to your proposal in the archives? -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

Re: subsets of licenses and copyright holders (was Re: I think the AL needs a rewrite)

2000-09-14 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
out, but I may have missed it. It sounds like an important proposal, and probably deserves its own RFC, as these issues are seperate from actual license changes. -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

Re: A new AL proposal

2000-09-13 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
e addition of part e in section 5, I believe this is a free software license, incompatible with the GPL. It's probably an open source license too. We'd need to run it by a lawyer to confirm that, though. -- Bradley M. Kuhn - http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn PGP signature

Re: Lawyers and licenses

2000-09-12 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Adams, Johnnie W wrote: Well, yesterday, after Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: "I have been talking with Eben Moglen, a prominent law professor at Columbia University, and he is willing to help us in developing some proposed new versions of the Artistic License."