Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 12:53:17PM +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote: > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote: > > > Given the current version number scheme (year.month), it's highly > > unlikely that we'll ever see a Rakudo 1.0. > > > > So I'd change that to "after a production release of

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 10:27 -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > - What was the first production release of Linux? > - At what point was each of the above declared a "production > release"; > was it concurrent with the release, or some time afterwards? Linus declared what his goals for 1.0 w

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 18:05, Guy Hulbert wrote: > On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 10:27 -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > > - What was the first production release of Linux? > > - At what point was each of the above declared a "production > > release"; > > was it concurrent with the release, or s

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 18:25 +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > At least have the decency to change the e-mail subject when the > discussion's > subject has changed! IMO, the subject changed at the second post. I was just responding to P Michaud who is the current principal developer of the s/w bein

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 18:33, Guy Hulbert wrote: > On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 18:25 +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > > At least have the decency to change the e-mail subject when the > > discussion's > > subject has changed! > > IMO, the subject changed at the second post. I was just responding to P >

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 06:25:18PM +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 18:05, Guy Hulbert wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 10:27 -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > > - What was the first production release of Linux? > > - At what point was each of the above decl

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 18:45 +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > You guys stopped discussing the questionnaire a LONG time before PM > answered. There has hardly been a handful of helpful posts. That's what I said and that was my first post. > > > Getting back on topic, I, for one, would like to kn

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 19:02, Guy Hulbert wrote: > Many people seem to be proposing questions which ask people's opinions > of things which are factual and can be answered readily by reading the > documentation. > > For example, your question can be partly answered by looking at the > rakudo down

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 20:10 +0100, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > It does not, however, answer any of the question_s_ I wanted asked, and > which others have wanted asked, not even partially. I haven't seen any such requests from you on this thread. Is this discussion happening elsewhere as well ? >

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: > > I'm not sure what 'TPF survey' is. http://survey.perlfoundation.org/ Gabor

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > Out of curiosity (because I think it will illuminate some of the difficulty > Rakudo devs have in declaring something to be a "production release"): > >  - What constitues a "production release"? The developers judge that the software is

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: > I think freezing a subset of what you eventually want to have and then > getting as close as you can on a fairly tight schedule is the best way > to get buy-in from users. That is generally what I expect to see in a production release, yes. I d

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
(a mistakenly private exchange back to the list) On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: >> On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 21:51 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Guy Hulbert wrote: >>> > >>> > I'm not sure wha

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2011-02-01 at 22:30 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: > >> Thanks. Found that already. It does not list the questions asked and I > >> can't figure out how to download the PDF report or to clone the > >> repository it's in on github. Jan Involdstadt suggested I look at TPF website and following

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 12:53:17PM +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote: >> >> > Given the current version number scheme (year.month), it's highly >> > unlikely that we'll ever see a Rakudo 1

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Moritz Lenz wrote: > On 01/01/2011 10:15 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> So for example: >> >> I'll start learning Perl 6  (select one or more that fits your opinion) >> *) when Larry Wall declares that Perl 6.0 is ready >> *) after Rakudo 1.0 is released > > Given the cu

Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-02 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Chas. Owens wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 21:39, Xue, Brian wrote: >> I want to adding one more answer about what are people waiting for before >> they >> start using Perl 6. >> >> There hasn't an official release of PERL6.0, just Rakudo. I'm afraid of >> Raku