Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-29 Thread Christopher Browne
After a long battle with technology, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Dunstan), an earthling, wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: I have shortened your paragraph to: Because Win32 is significantly different from the Unix platforms supported in previous releases, this port might have more bugs

[HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have shortened your paragraph to: Because Win32 is significantly different from the Unix platforms supported in previous releases, this port might have more bugs than other supported platforms in this release. Please test it thoroughly before using it in

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian wrote: I have shortened your paragraph to: Because Win32 is significantly different from the Unix platforms supported in previous releases, this port might have more bugs than other supported platforms in this release. Please test it thoroughly before

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Richard Huxton
Andrew Dunstan wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: I have shortened your paragraph to: Because Win32 is significantly different from the Unix platforms supported in previous releases, this port might have more bugs than other supported platforms in this release. Please test it

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Dennis Bjorklund
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Richard Huxton wrote: lacks the extended testing? That's good. We don't need to focus on bugs. The word bug and postgresql should never occur in the same sentence... hmm... -- /Dennis Björklund ---(end of broadcast)---

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, new wording: Because Win32 is significantly different from the Unix platforms supported in previous releases, it has not been tested as extensively as other supported platforms in this release. Please test it thoroughly before using it in production.

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Rob Butler
That makes it sound as if you didn't do the same level of testing on *this* release, like it didn't go through all the tests or something. How about it does not have the extensive testing history that other supported platforms in this release have. Later Rob OK, new wording:

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Tom Lane
Rob Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That makes it sound as if you didn't do the same level of testing on *this* release, like it didn't go through all the tests or something. How about it does not have the extensive testing history that other supported platforms in this release have.

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Tom Lane wrote: Rob Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That makes it sound as if you didn't do the same level of testing on *this* release, like it didn't go through all the tests or something. How about it does not have the extensive testing history that other supported

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Rob Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That makes it sound as if you didn't do the same level of testing on *this* release, like it didn't go through all the tests or something. How about it does not have the extensive testing history that other supported platforms in

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Tom Lane wrote: Rob Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That makes it sound as if you didn't do the same level of testing on *this* release, like it didn't go through all the tests or something. How about it does not have the extensive

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Also, we probably have more beta testers on Win32 than on all Unix platforms combined, though they might not be testing as thoroughly as Unix. Maybe I am just being dense, but isn't this obvious? I mean this is the first release of the Win32 code. Anybody who would be willing to put it in

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Also, we probably have more beta testers on Win32 than on all Unix platforms combined, though they might not be testing as thoroughly as Unix. Maybe I am just being dense, but isn't this obvious? I mean this is the first release of the Win32 code. Anybody who

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Merlin Moncure
Altho tested throughout our release cycle, the Windows port does not have the benefit of the years of testing that has gone into the Unix platforms, and, as such, should be treated with the same level of caution as you would a new product Wow, that is good! Current wording is:

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Tom Lane wrote: Rob Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That makes it sound as if you didn't do the same level of testing on *this* release, like it didn't go through all the tests or something. How about it does not have the extensive testing history

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday 26 August 2004 12:56, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Altho tested throughout our release cycle, the Windows port does not have the benefit of the years of testing that has gone into the Unix platforms, and, as such, should be treated with the same level of caution

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday 26 August 2004 12:56, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Altho tested throughout our release cycle, the Windows port does not have the benefit of the years of testing that has gone into the Unix platforms, and, as such, should be treated

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: Also, we probably have more beta testers on Win32 than on all Unix platforms combined, though they might not be testing as thoroughly as Unix. Maybe I am just being dense, but isn't this obvious? I mean this is the first release of

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, current text suggestion is: Although tested throughout our release cycle, the Windows port does not have the benefit of years of use in production environments that PostgreSQL has on Unix platforms and therefore should be treated with the same

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: Also, we probably have more beta testers on Win32 than on all Unix platforms combined, though they might not be testing as thoroughly as Unix. Maybe I am just being dense, but isn't this

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: There is already one for the beta. I don't see a need to add one for final release. Might be an idea ... if nothing else, something that at least reminds them about reporting bugs and where to do so? I'd hate to see 1000 ppl install, 90% see bugs adn

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Dann Corbit
, 2004 11:32 AM To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Joshua D. Drake; Tom Lane; Rob Butler; Dennis Bjorklund; Richard Huxton; Andrew Dunstan; Neil Conway; PostgreSQL Win32 port list; PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: There is already one for the beta. I don't see a need to add one for final release. Might be an idea ... if nothing else, something that at least reminds them about reporting bugs and where to do so? I'd hate to see

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: There is already one for the beta. I don't see a need to add one for final release. Might be an idea ... if nothing else, something that at least reminds them about reporting bugs and where

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
There is already one for the beta. I don't see a need to add one for final release. Might be an idea ... if nothing else, something that at least reminds them about reporting bugs and where to do so? I'd hate to see 1000 ppl install, 90% see bugs adn never have them reported :( Yes, I

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Magnus Hagander wrote: Right. So how would you get the email address, without starting the mail reader? have them enter one in a text box? We could add a checkbox that takes them to a webpage that permits subscription. But they are certainly going to need to put their email

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
Right. So how would you get the email address, without starting the mail reader? have them enter one in a text box? We could add a checkbox that takes them to a webpage that permits subscription. But they are certainly going to need to put their email address in there in some way...

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Darcy Buskermolen
On August 26, 2004 01:06 pm, Magnus Hagander wrote: pginstaller itself that would auto-mail that out ... Don't think that's going to work. You need th emailserver. In most cases, you need the login for the mailserver. Most companies and nowadays a lot of home ISPs block outbound SMTP unless

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Robert Treat
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 15:52, Magnus Hagander wrote: Also, maybe we should encourage them to subscribe to announce so we can announce any Win32 fix releases we might need. They probably aren't used to that procedure. Having installed enough Windows software over the years

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Magnus Hagander wrote: Right. So how would you get the email address, without starting the mail reader? have them enter one in a text box? We could add a checkbox that takes them to a webpage that permits subscription. But they are certainly going to need to put their email

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Bruce Momjian wrote: OK, current text suggestion is: Although tested throughout our release cycle, the Windows port does not have the benefit of years of use in production environments that PostgreSQL has on Unix platforms and therefore should be treated

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Robert Treat wrote: All we need to do is and in some of the klez/sobig tech and not only can we subscribe them, but we should be able to read through their address book and subscribe 50 of their closest friends without any prompting at all :-) We could, but make sure its in

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, release notes updated. --- Bruce Momjian wrote: OK, current text suggestion is: Although tested throughout our release cycle, the Windows port does not have the benefit of years of use