Re: [HACKERS] clog_buffers to 64 in 8.3?

2007-08-04 Thread Simon Riggs
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 18:16 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: In any case this is getting pretty darn far away from a one-liner patch. I think it needs more thought and more testing than we can spare now. Agreed. We're much further behind with this release than ever before, so we need to put the cut

Re: [HACKERS] .NET driver

2007-08-04 Thread Dave Page
Rohit Khare wrote: PostgreSQL has the oldest community of coders, and PostgreSQL itself is the oldest product. Still its performance (in some areas) and GUI does not match MySQL. MySQL .NET Driver gives very good performance for the MySQL Database, FireBird .NET Driver gives performance for

Re: [HACKERS] .NET driver

2007-08-04 Thread Rohit Khare
Seeing the history of PostgreSQL development, following features are expected in pgAdmin: (1) Facility to insert a column in between other columns during table design. (2) Facility to view relationship diagram. (3) Facility to view table performance level graphically. (4) More documented

[HACKERS] Label Security and Fine-grained auditing

2007-08-04 Thread Rohit Khare
I once discussed with you all regarding Oracle's FlashBack Query feature to recover a database to a certain point of time. That time you all suggested some indepth cons of this and how it is resource hungry. One more feature that I am not sure PostgreSQL has is, row-level, column-level security.

Re: [HACKERS] Label Security and Fine-grained auditing

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Rohit Khare wrote: One more feature that I am not sure PostgreSQL has is, row-level, column-level security. Oracle call this Label-Security in which you define a policy for certain columns so that they are not visible to un-authorised users during SELECT queries. This is an important security

Re: [HACKERS] Label Security and Fine-grained auditing

2007-08-04 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Aug 4, 2007, at 7:06 , Rohit Khare wrote: One more feature that I am not sure PostgreSQL has is, row-level, column-level security. Oracle call this Label-Security in which you define a policy for certain columns so that they are not visible to un-authorised users during SELECT queries.

Re: [HACKERS] .NET driver

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Rohit Khare wrote: Seeing the history of PostgreSQL development, following features are expected in pgAdmin: (1) Facility to insert a column in between other columns during table design. (2) Facility to view relationship diagram. (3) Facility to view table performance level graphically.

Re: [HACKERS] Label Security and Fine-grained auditing

2007-08-04 Thread KaiGai Kohei
Rohit Khare wrote: I once discussed with you all regarding Oracle's FlashBack Query feature to recover a database to a certain point of time. That time you all suggested some indepth cons of this and how it is resource hungry. One more feature that I am not sure PostgreSQL has is, row-level,

Re: [HACKERS] .NET driver

2007-08-04 Thread Magnus Hagander
Rohit Khare wrote: Seeing the history of PostgreSQL development, following features are expected in pgAdmin: (1) Facility to insert a column in between other columns during table design. This I can see how people like, actually. Theorists claim it's not needed since column order really

Re: [HACKERS] .NET driver

2007-08-04 Thread Dave Page
--- Original Message --- From: Rohit Khare [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04/08/07, 12:58:25 Subject: Re: [HACKERS] .NET driver Seeing the history of PostgreSQL development, following features are expected in pgAdmin: I don't see what any of these have

[HACKERS] Problem with log_timezone not being set during early startup

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Lane
I came across a problem with the log_timezone patch. Given these conditions: * log_min_messages is at least debug3 * log_line_prefix includes %t or %m * log_timezone is not explicitly set in postgresql.conf the postmaster will dump core during startup, because it tries to format an elog message

Re: [HACKERS] Problem with log_timezone not being set during early startup

2007-08-04 Thread Magnus Hagander
Tom Lane wrote: I came across a problem with the log_timezone patch. Given these conditions: * log_min_messages is at least debug3 * log_line_prefix includes %t or %m * log_timezone is not explicitly set in postgresql.conf the postmaster will dump core during startup, because it tries to

Re: [HACKERS] .NET driver

2007-08-04 Thread Neil Conway
On Sat, 2007-04-08 at 09:26 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: So what are *you* doing about it? This is open source, where if you want it and it's not there you make it. Otherwise you're just one more whinger wanting something for nothing. I don't agree with this attitude at all: we should be

Re: [HACKERS] Problem with log_timezone not being set during early startup

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Lane
Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any way to tweak this place and have it log in GMT instead, when log_timezone is NULL? I think this is just a variant of my #2. The main risk factor IMHO is that the first call is going to invoke tzload() for the GMT zone (pgtz does not seem to

Re: [HACKERS] Problem with log_timezone not being set during early startup

2007-08-04 Thread Decibel!
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 12:12:46PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: There's a value judgment involved here: is it better to print timestamps in GMT (which the user won't be expecting) than to not print them at all? I can see arguments on both sides of that. As long as it's clear that the times are in

Re: [HACKERS] Problem with log_timezone not being set during early startup

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Lane
Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something else to consider... normally you'd have to have a pretty serious condition to run into this in normal usage, right? (I doubt there's many folks that use any debug level, let alone 3) I think that gives us more flexibility. Yeah. This whole issue

Re: [HACKERS] Problem with log_timezone not being set during early startup

2007-08-04 Thread Decibel!
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 12:46:32PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something else to consider... normally you'd have to have a pretty serious condition to run into this in normal usage, right? (I doubt there's many folks that use any debug level, let alone 3) I

Re: [HACKERS] .NET driver

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Neil Conway wrote: On Sat, 2007-04-08 at 09:26 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: So what are *you* doing about it? This is open source, where if you want it and it's not there you make it. Otherwise you're just one more whinger wanting something for nothing. I don't agree with this

Re: [HACKERS] .NET driver

2007-08-04 Thread Rohit Khare
Comparing with MySQL/FireBird is not to be taken other-wise. Good things need to be taken care of if they can benefit users. Yes, it is open source and one can contribute code. But the level of expertise and skill also matters. PGSQL development community involve experts in the areas of RDBMS,

Re: [HACKERS] Problem with log_timezone not being set during early startup

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Lane
Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps if we don't have log_timezone set yet we could output something such as 'LOCALTIME' so that it was obvious. Or maybe output whatever $TZ is set to? I think you're confused. This is not a matter of knowing what to print for the timezone part, it's how

Re: [HACKERS] Document and/or remove unreachable code in tuptoaster.c from varvarlena patch

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Lane
Gregory Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Testers here were having a hard time constructing test cases to reach some lines touched by the varvarlena patch. Upon further investigation I'm convinced they're unreachable. I'm not really happy with any of this patch. ISTM that the stuff you say is

[HACKERS] pg_lzcompress strategy parameters

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Lane
Greg complained here http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-patches/2007-07/msg00342.php that the default strategy parameters used by the TOAST compressor might need some adjustment. After thinking about it a little I wonder whether they're not even more broken than that. The present behavior is:

Re: [HACKERS] pg_lzcompress strategy parameters

2007-08-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Lane wrote: I'm inclined to think that the concept of force_input_size is wrong. Instead I suggest that we have a min_comp_rate (minimum percentage savings) and a min_savings (minimum absolute savings), and compress if either one is met.