ou
thinking of a one or more use cases where it's both large and unknown?
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> output that is way too short (by about half a screen's height, I think).
+1
It's a bug fix that changes behavior no reasonable script could count on.
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> renaming contrib/cube or unreserving keywords
> gsp-u.patch- proposed method to unreserve CUBE and ROLLUP
>
> (the contrib patch is not necessary if the -u patch is used; the
> contrib/pg_stat_statements fixes are in the phase1 patch)
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On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:21AM +, Laurenz Albe wrote:
> David Fetter wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 07:51:06AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
> >> Just out of curiosity, why is Oracle's NUMBER (I assume you are
> >> talking about this) so fast?
> >
&
ces) at a 128-bit
internal representation as the maximum. I don't know what happens
when you get past what 128 bits can represent.
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publishing numbers they don't authorize, but they
might have pushed some authorized numbers if those numbers make them
look good.
Also, just a general three-state comparison, "we beat them handily,"
"we're somewhere near them" or "we're not even close"
tion about what
> > reloptions have been set.
> >
>
> Maybe into "information_schema" ??
Not there. The information schema is defined pretty precisely in the
SQL standard and contains only some of this kind of information.
pg_catalog seems like a much more appropriate sp
(by default disabled).
>
> I don't see the point of making the profile optional. Why burden the user
> with that decision? I'm not convinced we need it at all, but if we're going
> to have a profile file, it should always be included.
+1 for fewer user decisions, esp
hanges, even though they might be bugs,
categorically couldn't violate an access control?
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EW/OLD as tables. I suspect that it won't be long after release
> before someone asks why they can't create an index on it. :)
Continuing with this digression, that request seems more likely with
views and foreign tables, given that they persist across statements.
I'm given to underst
ey have the extension installed and to do some magic
> before the actual upgrade to handle the rename..?
+1 for doing this. Do we want to make some kind of generator for such
things? It doesn't seem hard in principle, but I haven't tried coding
it up yet.
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 09:59:11AM -0700, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> David Fetter wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 07:29:39AM -0700, Kevin Grittner wrote:
>
> >> The patch that David offered to use the tuplestores in C should
> >> probably be updated to show both
should I wait to
start until those patch sets are submitted to -hackers?
> Thanks for picking up the job of CF manager, BTW. It's a dirty
> job, but somebody's got to do it.
Indeed, and thanks for wrangling this, Heikki.
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)". There is no DROP there.
The lo_* functions are probably too entrenched to be deprecated, but
maybe we could come up with DML (or DDL, although that seems like a
bridge too far) equivalents and use those. Not for 9.4, obviously.
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magine where this could be argued not to
be is just casuistry, namely LIMIT m OFFSET -n might be argued to mean
LIMIT m-n.
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it could hurt to fix this bug.
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_collapse_limit relations to worry about.
Eliminating JOINs seems orthogonal, at least in theory, to
join_collapse_limit. What have I missed here, and how might they have
dependencies?
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:03:06AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> > David Fetter wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:06:26AM -0700, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> >
> >>> Here is v2.
> >
> >>
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 07:35:10AM -0700, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> David Fetter wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:06:26AM -0700, Kevin Grittner wrote:
>
> >> Here is v2.
>
> > I've taken the liberty of making an extension that uses this.
> > Pre
value.
It's Tau day (6.28) in some parts of the world already. Might that be
the cause?
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r-space hack I did that's similar in functionality.
Please find attached the extension, etc., which I've published to
https://github.com/davidfetter/postgresql_projects/tree/test_delta_v2
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:30:34PM -0700, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> David Fetter wrote:
> > Robert Haas wrote:
> >> Kevin Grittner wrote:
>
> > The good:
> > - Generating the tuplestores. Yay!
>
> Thanks for that. ;-)
Sorry, I just can't re
x27;d like to propose that the tuplestores be generated
separately in general and attached to callers. We can optimize this by
not generating redundant tuplestores.
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e able to surface the old version for the case of
UPDATE ... RETURNING?
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On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:41:06AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * David Fetter (da...@fetter.org) wrote:
> > - We make type mappings settable at the level of:
> > - FDW
> > - Instance (a.k.a. cluster)
> > - Database
> > - Schema
> > - T
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:37:32AM +0400, ash wrote:
> David Fetter writes:
> > On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 06:25:09PM +0400, ash wrote:
> >> Hi Hackers,
> >>
> >> This came up recently on general list (and I've just hit the same
> >> issue
t; that defeats the purpose of such feature?
Probably not. I'd certainly like to have the feature :)
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On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 11:23:41PM +0200, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
> Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 12:41:18 David Fetter a écrit :
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:08:06PM +0200, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Since my last proposal didn't get any stro
TO TEXT
WITH (
INBOUND TRANSFORMATION IDENTITY,
OUTBOUND TRANSFORMATION IDENTITY
) /* Ugh!!! */
vs.
ALTER FOREIGN TABLE foo ADD (mapping '{
"datetime": "text",
"inbound": "IDENTITY",
outbound: &quo
s very much
> this confidence, for the excellent work that has been doing for the
> community.
>
> Thank you and Congrats Andres!
Congratulations, Andres!
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n we have time zones in significantly different
reference frames.
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Remembe
ight do that would be more important.
> >
> Can anyone guess how likely this approach is to make it into 9.5?
> I've been pondering some incremental improvements over what we have
> now, but if this revolutionary approach has a high chance of landing
> then any work on incremental
e do something clever with
bit-stuffing, or would that tank performance in some terrible ways?
I know we allow for gigantic numbers of backend connections, but I've
never found a win for >2x the number of cores in the box, which at
least in my experience so far tops out in the 8-bit
full integer to store references.
Out of curiosity, where are you finding that a 32-bit integer is
causing problems that a 16-bit one would solve?
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of
tree, perhaps, or does that require too many other things (total
ordering, e.g.)?
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e this
> easier (for example, a useful unique database ID), but I suspect that
> acutal implementation will always remain application-specific.
>
> You may say "oh, that's not the job of the identifer", but if it's not,
> WTF is the identifer for, then?
Frequently
herwise I think the principle of using an external
> library was good.
So long as we can pick another horse later, sure.
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On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 08:27:52PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> David Fetter writes:
> > Is there any good reason not to roll native UUID generation into
> > our standard distribution?
>
> It's already there (as of 9.4) in pg_crypto.
Sorry I wasn't clear enough.
Sin
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:24:21PM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 02:26:50PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > Josh Berkus wrote:
> > > On 04/23/2014 07:43 AM, Alexander Korotkov wrote:
> > > > I can propose contrib PostgreNoSQL providing follow
ng like it, certainly. One thing SQL Server does right is to
have an opaque identity column, for which UUID would do an admirable
job. We would need to build UUID functionality in, and I don't see
this as a hard task. Should I draft it up as a self-contained
extension?
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>
> (unsigned char *) src, srclen,
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and perl-ify it, document it, etc. Or maybe it could be a new make
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> Fix EquivalenceClass processing for nested append relations.
If this is a bug fix, shouldn't it be back-patched?
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Are there any more prospective mentors? We'll want some folk to act
> as back-up mentors too to ensure projects can still be completed
> should any mentor become unavailable.
For MADlib, no. Are you asking for mentors in general?
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 04:39:27PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> > Add a GUC to report whether data page checksums are enabled.
>
> Is there are reason this wasn't back-patched to 9.3? I think it should
> be.
+1 for back-patching.
Cheers,
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 03:14:03PM +0100, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2014-01-31 18:16:18 +0100, Vik Fearing wrote:
> > On 01/25/2014 06:25 AM, David Fetter wrote:
> > > Please find attached the next rev :)
> >
> > This version looks committable to me, so I am marking
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 02:52:42PM -0800, David Fetter wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 08:52:25PM +0200, Karol Trzcionka wrote:
> > W dniu 21.08.2013 19:17, Boszormenyi Zoltan pisze:
> > > With this fixed, a more complete review:
> > Thanks.
>
> I've done som
ting the sections that need
same?
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his on in light of that experience :)
> Who would be up for mentoring this year? And are there any project
> ideas folk would like to suggest?
I'd be delighted to mentor.
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S
er or
easier to understand.
A couple of questions:
1) Would people like to have FOREIGN KEY ... CONCURRENTLY as
described above?
2) Is there another way to solve the problem of adding a foreign
key constraint that points at a busy table?
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sounds kind of funny to me. Anyone have another
> > > > suggestion?
> > >
> > > Logical and Binary replication?
> >
> > Unfortunately changeset extraction output's can be binary data...
> >
>
> Perhaps Logical and Block?
>
> The
viation in a first years Maths course
> "Principles of Mathematics" in 1968 at the University of Auckland..
By my rough count (ack -l '\biff\b' |wc -l), it's used to mean
equivalence 81 times in the source tree. Should we have a glossary of
such terms?
Che
about what precisely foreign tables
can and cannot inherit from local ones. I don't think that a generic
solution will be satisfactory, as the PostgreSQL FDW could, at least
in principle, support many more than the CSV FDW, as shown above.
In my estimation, the outcome of discussion above is not
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 02:03:18AM +0100, Vik Fearing wrote:
> On 10/15/2013 07:50 AM, David Fetter wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:16:56PM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> Please find attached a patch implementing and documenting, to som
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 01:07:50AM +0100, Vik Fearing wrote:
> On 11/24/2013 02:03 AM, Vik Fearing wrote:
> > On 10/15/2013 07:50 AM, David Fetter wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:16:56PM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> >>> Folks,
> >>>
> >
the rest of our array implementation is a question for
another thread.
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say that as a long-time Perl user (who has never seen this feature
used in code worth not scrapping, by the way).
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t; pg_description comment against whether it has SGML documentation :-(
FDWs to the rescue!
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e have dropped support, as you put it, for bigger and harder-hitting
mistakes than this. Anybody whose code has this kind of silliness in
it will be in other kinds of trouble, too.
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ck. Not even serial columns need feedback, since many ORMs
> (SQLAlchemy, Hibernate) support allocation of ID sequences in batches
> (by issuing a proper select nextval).
This is already doable using data-modifying WITH clauses. Whether
ORMs are (or should be made) smart enough to take
SQL extensions included in PostgreSQL distribution
> (for example pg_stat_statements). It can be added using "create
> extension imcs" and removed "drop extension imcs" commands.
>
> If there are some violations of PostgreSQL extensions rules, please
> let me know,
ormatted as an EXTENSION, which would allow
people to add it or remove it cleanly.
Would you be so kind as to fix these?
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> David Fetter wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:04:23AM -0800, Kevin Grittner wrote:
>
> >> As soon as we are out of this CF, I am planning to write code to
> >> capture deltas and fire func
ly on the CREATE statement.
>
> CREATE TABLESPACE x LOCATION y SET (random_page_cost = z);
That should probably be WITH instead of SET for consistency with other
similar DDL.
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> the network bits of the addresses. Except for the new operators and
> is contained within, contains; basic comparison operators are also
> supported.
Please add this patch to the upcoming Commitfest at
https://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=21
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r words,
> does the right thing when used with the arrays people use 99% of the
> time.
+1 for adding this.
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> To see how this can torpedo performance, run the attached SQL file on
> an empty database, and then run these quereis:
+1 for fixing this bug :)
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gt; I like both of these better than negative transition function and I agree
> negative implies arithmetic rather than opposite.
> Out of these 2 I do think inverse fits better than reverse, so I guess that
> would make it "inverse aggregate transition function".
> Would t
On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 03:04:31PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> David Fetter writes:
> > The idea here is that such a happy situation will not obtain until
> > much later, if ever, and meanwhile, we need a way to get things
> > accomplished even if it's inelega
On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 12:43:44PM -0600, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:26 PM, David Fetter wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 11:15:36AM +0800, Craig Ringer wrote:
> >> On 11/28/2013 03:24 AM, David Fetter wrote:
> >> > WITH, or SRF, or whatever
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 11:15:36AM +0800, Craig Ringer wrote:
> On 11/28/2013 03:24 AM, David Fetter wrote:
> > WITH, or SRF, or whatever, the point is that we need to be able to
> > specify what we're sending--probably single opaque strings delimited
> > just as we do
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 01:29:46AM +0530, Atri Sharma wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:54 AM, David Fetter wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:29:34AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> >> Shigeru Hanada escribió:
> >>
> >> > SQL/MED standard doesn't
k of offhand.
What we can't do is assume that our parser needs to, or even could, in
principle, understand these things in more detail than that.
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se does that sound to what
> CREATE ASSERTION (as currently envisioned) would need?
It sounds *extremely* close to what we'd need for row access in
per-statement triggers, as in probably identical. The SQL syntax of
this sub-feature is described in Foundation section 11.49 and called
REFE
the standard is just ripe for un-patchable exploits *in
its design*.
Of all the misdesign-by-committee contained in the standard, this
piece is far and away the stupidest I've encountered to date. We
should not even vaguely attempt to implement it.
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making a specification without a reference implementation. If I'm
reading it correctly, it's literally impossible to make what they
suggest safe.
Given those givens, we're free to do this in a way that's not
barking-at-the-moon crazy. At least two inter-database communication
li
or the new fields). I
> think it might need to modify more places in code because of "comparing"
> vars (maybe we'd need to include new fields while comparision).
> Regards,
> Karol Trzcionka
Karol,
Do you plan to continue this work for the current commitfest? A lot
of people re
er than -Fc (custom), was
the default for pg_backup, as it makes the choice to use -j (>1 core)
trivial. I'd also make sure that the directory format could handle
the entirety of the backed-up database in some comprehensible way.
Maybe a globals/ and a databases/ directory up top...
Che
> a multiple of 2MB?
How about documenting that 2MB is the quantum (OK, we'll say
"indivisible unit" or "smallest division" or something) and failing
with a message to that effect if someone tries to set it otherwise?
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patch, that benefit is overwhelmed by the cost of
having unstable releases.
-infininty from me to any proposal that gets us into "are you using
PostgreSQL x.y.z or x.y.w?" when it comes to features.
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to use and understand and is available on many
> > platforms.
>
> I'd also take a look at ditaa, which might make this even simpler.
If we manage to keep Java out of our build toolchain, we will be much
the better for it.
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On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:42:10AM +0200, Boszormenyi Zoltan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2013-10-19 17:20 keltezéssel, David Fetter írta:
> >Thanks very much to Mike Blackwell and Craig Kerstiens for their
> >persistence through what most people would consider a tedious and
> >t
t
get reviewed or committed until November. What it does mean is that
people will be setting patch review as a lower priority, frequently so
they can live their lives, work on new stuff, do their day jobs...
We got 20 patches, many quite significant, committed this time.
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hack up to meet your needs.
My version:
Hacker: the output gets dumped as a series of JSON files. We have
docs for this rev of the format and examples of consumers in Perl and
Python you can use as-is or hack up to meet your needs.
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On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:16:56PM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Please find attached a patch implementing and documenting, to some
> extent, $subject. I did this in aid of being able to import SQL
> standard catalogs and other entities where a known example could
>
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>
> (1) Define the issue as "not our problem". IOW, as of now, if you
> want to use PostgreSQL, you've got to either make POSIX shared memory
> work on your machine, or change the GUC that selects the type of
> dynamic shared memory used.
+1 for this.
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Folks,
When you update a patch, please make sure to let your reviewer(s) know
you have in addition to putting it in the Commitfest application.
This will help ensure that your patch moves along its track to a
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or un-quoted empty strings we have a way to replace them with NULL.
> >
> >I think having 2 different syntax for replacing empty strings (one
> >for quoted and another for un-quoted) as NULL's might not be best way
> >to accomplish
> >this feature.
> >
&
which assume an at least vaguely modern piece
of hardware.
By and large, people are not installing PostgreSQL for the very first
time on a server the newest component of which is ten years old.
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all such errors
and mention them at the end rather than simply bailing on the first
one?
TBD: regression tests.
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t of places
in the docs that refer to versions of PostgreSQL a good bit older than
8.3. Will grep and patch as I get the time.
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uess, I'd guess, "first cut."
I take it this also occurred to you and that you believe that this
approach makes the more general case or at least further out than it
would need to be. Am I close?
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If you've got something that's not already on the current commitfest,
please put it on the next one.
Thanks!
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iC
uld we start with whatever had been in the regression tests
when the line type was dropped?
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e taken into account here is Oleg and
> >>> > > Teodor's in-progress work on extending hstore:
> >>> > > https://www.pgcon.org/2013/schedule/events/518.en.html
> >>> > > I'm not sure if this patch would conflict with that at all, but it
> >>> > >
y or another.
Let's make this one great!
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Cons
speak v3.
>
> The possible thing to consider there is if there's a common pg fork
> that uses v2 only, that would then no longer be compatible with the
> standard libpq. I have no idea if such a thing exists, and I'm not
> sure we even care if it does, given how
edious and unglamorous work, write back and explain why you
think you'd do it well.
Thanks in advance for everyone's help, and let's make this CommitFest
awesome!
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