peope add
more is the goal.
I'm sure once the catalog exists the existing ICU-for-Postgres patch
will be adjusted to use it.
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You're assuming collations are denumerable. They're not. There is no way
to find the list of available collations/locales. You may be able to
guess a few but certainly not all of them.
locale
, Firebird added support for ICU more than three
years ago.
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it as it was because it takes care of a useful subset of
the features people want in a way that is compatable for the future.
Whereas the stripped down version, I'm not sure it gets us anywhere.
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, and then use that as
a template for a database with UTF-8 encoding, the text data will be
incorrectly encoded. We should probably fix that too.
I'd say forbid more than one encoding in a cluster, but that's just my
opinion :)
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But that put us back where we started: every database having the same
collation. We're trying to move away from that. Just reindex everything
and be done with it.
That's easier said than done, unfortunately.
I don't see an alternative.
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much for performance.
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to provide too few characters, as long as it's
not the last field?
Other than that it looks like a good patch.
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later a newer version is posted with just changes. The commitfest page
points to the latter, losing former in the archive somewhere.
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degradation.
Other architechtures will simply throw exceptions, that's the smoke
test.
Also, what's the performance cost?
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optimization is the root of all evil. (Knuth, Donald.)
make it work, then make it better.
Getting a partial implementation that works out now is far better than
waiting until its perfect.
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make this work.
While it's true POSIX locales don't handle this, other collation
libraries do and we should support them if the user wants.
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While it's true POSIX locales don't handle this, other collation
libraries do and we should support them
a text representation of the type easily then.
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probably worse :)
Isn't there some compromise. Like say scanning the index to collect a
few thousand records and then sort them the way a bitmap index scan
does. Should be much more efficient that what we have now.
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optimisation or the
ORDER BY clause. Essentially anywhere where currently there are
assumptions about the real operator name is required. And then the
optimiser can fill in the actual operator by which time it should be
clear what it is.
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ISTM the problem is that there's no easy way to refer to operators
found in a default opclass, so perhaps we could invent a construct:
A OPERATOR(btree,2) B
Huh? I don't
, and is widely supported.
I'm not sure if any text browsers support CSS, so if implemented that
way, for them the tooltips simply won't appear.
Once you decide on exactly how you want text browsrs to be able to see
it then the solution becomes obvious.
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that python manages named and labelled params in
a single calling syntax fairly straightforward.
http://docs.python.org/tut/node6.html#SECTION00672
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it's almost plain text. In fact, a ReST document
source can easily be read raw.
I presume by ReST you mean this:
http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html
Just guessing though. It's not referenced in wikipedia under that
acronym.
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is to have logical position
!= physical position, so I don't see how bugs could survive very long.
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will be explained in details so stay tuned.
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to a primary key is equivalent to a GROUP BY involving all the rest of
the fields. Now, I don't think anyone has proposed a way to support
that, but I wanted to check we arn't making it harder to do with these
changes...
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, expressions and columns do.
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want materialization.
Since the problem is using the result of a WITH clause more than once,
would it be sufficient to simply detect that case and bail? You don't
want materialisation is most cases, there's just a few where it is
needed.
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with
any characters... Which is basically the approach glibc/ICU takes.
I think the standard is kind of pathetic to say that strcoll can set
errno but have no value to indicate error. I wonder how many platforms
actually use that feature.
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handle any characters that can be produced by
encoding.
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there are standards.
You are ofcourse free to propose it to them, but the question is if
they'd listen...
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a locale for any pair of (locale code,encoding),
whether the result is meaningful is another question.
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been accepted as a Google Summer of Code project.
Why bother with pg_charset? I don't think I've seen anyone even asking
for multiple charsets in a single DB and certainly no actual use case.
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Just clarifying for myself: you are mostly listing theoretical problems
here, not actual I ran it and got regression failures problems, right
think that with concerted coding effort it could be done in 2-3
months (judging by how long it took to write the first version). The
problem is it needs some planner kung-fu which not many people have.
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all the collations used in
template1, which shouldn't be hard to arrange.
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in pg_database as a
string, rather than as an identifier. This sidesteps the problem
entirly.
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to where we want to go.
Given that the current projected timeframe for full COLLATE support is
something like 2-3 major releases, I don't really see the problem with
doing this now. Who knows, it might prompt people to do something
sooner.
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just
once at the end.
That would make RANK() a normal aggrgate which returns the number of
distinct values seen so far (assuming input is ordered) and
ROW_NUMBER() is just an alias for COUNT().
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tweak the collation on a small scale. In any case,
whatever collation library is used, we're unlikely to predefine every
possible collation in the system, there's too many (assuming they're
denumerable).
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be detoasted.
* Am I in fact getting an appropriate nul-terminated string in my
cilower() function using this code?
char * str = DatumGetCString(
DirectFunctionCall1( textout, PointerGetDatum( arg ) )
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Yes.
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you assume that text* values
are NULL terminated, because they're not...
char * cilower(text * arg) {
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char * str = VARDATA_ANY( arg );
str here is not null terminated. You need text_to_cstring or something
similar.
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Shared_buffers 64MB
Configuration stored to /etc/postgresql/8.3/postgresql.conf
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This would probably solve most issues.
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postgresql to choose in this case. Whichever way
you want it, make that direction implicit and the other direction
assignment. Having A-B and B-A both as implicit just leads to
ambiguity.
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doesn't work with 8.3? The casting rules wrt text
have changed...
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for details on how it works precisely, but it's far
nicer than merely adding an typmod, since that would cause you to throw
errors at runtime if there's a problem.
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. I don't think GUCs are the correct mechanism for
this.
The SQL COLLATE syntax handles this just fine. Either the original
COLLATE patch or the new one will let people tags strings with any
collation they like.
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approach. Should probably just delete the page from the wiki
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only. I hope my understanding is correct.
Incorrect, the shared buffer cache is shared between all running
postgresql processes and between connections. Also the OS cache is
shared between all programs on the system.
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The server won't, the universe will end first. This is a nice example
of the halting problem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem
Which was proved unsolvable a long time ago.
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. Then D is popped and E and F pushed. So the
returned order is: A,B,C,D,E,F. You could also do B,C,A,E,F,D if you
wanted.
FIFO pushes A and D. It then pops A and puts B and C at *the end*. It
then pops D and pushes E and F at the end. So you get the order
A,D,B,C,E,F
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#define unlikely(x) __builtin_expect(x,0)
So you say things like:
if( likely( x==0 ) )
And gcc will optimise that the branch is likely to be taken. Using
macros means that you can arrange it so that for non-gcc compilers it's
a no-op.
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this cause the return value to be allocated inside a new memory
block which gets freeds at the SPI_pop?
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what is meant.
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BY functionality work for this? Or
won't that handle updates?
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A. Certain
operations preserve order, which may also be useful.
You can always propose something, see where it goes.
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the same effect.
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interactive query interface impossible. I don't think it's
reasonable to include a complete SQL parser into psql just so I can
type normal queries.
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your database is in some kind of readable state).
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, it would be really nice if someone could
summarise it all on a wiki page that we can point people to.
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write the code but also
investigate reasonable limits for behaviour also.
For the first three I can't imagine what the costs would be, except the
memory usage to store the unduplicated data once when its read in.
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else seems to be asking for trouble. Basically, on a single
page you compact:
A B - 2
A B - 3
A C - 4
A D - 1
B F - 2
to:
A B - [2, 3]
(1) C - 4
(1) D - 1
B F - 2
Within the context of a single page it's perfectly clear.
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would become much
more expensive.
But none of this has anything ot do with encodings.
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is for. The current backend code already constructs BIOs
for reading to support interrupting (see my_sock_read), so you could
replace the read with any functions you wanted.
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an update.
What you really need for this though is a non-fatal _bt_check_unique so
you can recover without having a savepoint for every row.
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preclude the chance that there really is something wrong.
It was a guide, not a way of getting out of tests.
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automatically, without having to
eyeball the output.
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elsewhere)
rather than working around it in countless individual places.
maintainence_statement_timeout? :)
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Is this so? This happened to me the other day (hence the question about
having COPY note failure earlier) because the disk filled up. I was
confused because du showed nothing
other than adjust whitespace. It surely won't remove braces...
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and why it is better than the others suggested.
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to the view to limit the number of audit entries to one.
How do I accomplish what I want to accomplish here? I'd prefer not to use a
sp.
Why not?
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: New version submitted (link) (brief summary of
changes)
If there are many more versions you can consider cutting, but you're
not there yet.
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by
distributors that'd be cool. I can think of some projects that could
really benefit from a feature like this.
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procedure definition and it would still have one
roundtrip. But your way works also.
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statements idea much better. Named the
statements is no problem: DB frontends do that for you anyway
sometimes.
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See if you can avoid including that header altogether...
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it would favour
plans that did not require seeking...
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\s*:\s*(?:%\s*:\ )? # somethig with a %-sign
...etc...
}x;
Check the perlre manpage for more info.
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in the cold...
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statement. It would solve the OPs problem.
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there complaints from people regularly truncating and
refilling tables getting bad plans because they lost the statistics?
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wouldn't feel more comfortable taking baby steps at first
which will have less impact in cases where it's not being heavily used.
I think the way it is now is neat and simple and enough for now.
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Please line
information about what the information
represents we might be able to give you a better idea.
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and not others, which is
madness.
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it by adding -lcurses to the psql link
line, but fixing readline would be better.
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decided it
was a space, or sscanf didn't read it...
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this usage I don't know.
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