Re: [HACKERS] RC1 on AIX - working thus far

2003-11-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Christopher Browne writes: bash-2.05a$ uname -a AIX ibm-db 1 5 000CD13A4C00 We already have a report for AIX. Were you trying to indicate that this is a different variant thereof? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...

2003-11-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
doc/man.tar.gz. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [HACKERS] RC1 on AIX - working thus far

2003-11-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
will be added shortly.) -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...

2003-11-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Marc G. Fournier writes: Why does it scare you? *raised eyebrow* Because release-making should be a predictable process. But if every other release brings a new surprise in the naming scheme, it's not. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...

2003-11-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] Call for port reports

2003-11-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
I wrote: For a change, here is one that does not work: HP-UX hpunix5 B.11.00 U 9000/803 2002765023 This one is OK now. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once

[HACKERS] Uselessly executable files

2003-11-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
/bin/pg_ctl/pg_ctl.sh src/interfaces/jdbc/example/corba/stock.idl src/pl/tcl/modules/pltcl_delmod.in src/pl/tcl/modules/pltcl_listmod.in src/pl/tcl/modules/pltcl_loadmod.in src/port/dirmod.c -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] Open Sourcing pgManage

2003-11-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
applications and libraries develop around it. That has worked out pretty well lately, I think. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] Master-of-the-Makefiles http://www.postgresql.org ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space

Re: [HACKERS] make output

2003-11-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Andrew Overholt writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] postgresql]$ time make all make.nonsmp mkdir man7 some minor bison and ant warnings Should the man directory creation be echoed like that? Yes, that appears to be normal. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] \xDD patch for 7.5devel

2003-11-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
that there may be a need to issue an error if an invalid octal or hex character is found following a \ or \x. No errors are currently flagged by the octal (or this hex) import. I think this belongs into the string literal parser (at least in addition to COPY). -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL

[HACKERS] Erroneous PPC spinlock code

2003-11-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
The SuSE PPC guru said that the PPC spinlock code we currently use may behave erroneously on multiprocessor systems. Attached is the proposed patch, suggested for inclusion in 7.4. Comments? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- src/include/storage/s_lock.h +++ src/include/storage

[HACKERS] Open Issues for 7.4

2003-11-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
of manual work this time, so any further reference page changes need to be integrated by hand. * Did we really decide not to rename the check_function_bodies parameter to something more general? Maybe I've missed it. * PPC spinlock patch from SuSE. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
is Don't get me wrong, press contacts and advocacy team deserve recognition as well, but not on a page that is indirectly labelled What is PostgreSQL. It makes it look like the project is run by marketing dudes. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
anywhere, because the main site understands itself as a portal, and there is no obvious way that other groups can integrate. Check out www.debian.org or www.freebsd.org to see what I mean. Everything is there at one glance, everything looks the same, everyone is invited everywhere. -- Peter Eisentraut

Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
a recognised contributor? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] Information Schema and constraint names not unique

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
we really need a method to guarantee unique names. It would already help a lot if we just added the table name, or something that was until a short time before the action believed to be the table name, or even only the table OID, before (or after) the $1. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
is the right place to discuss who gets to be a recognized contributor of that same development group. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http

Re: [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Josh Berkus writes: I was discussing specifically the Recognized Corporate Contributors which is, AFAIK, strictly a PHB thing, no? No. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

[HACKERS] Bogus bind() warnings

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
that is relatively fully IPv6 enabled. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
that list is a pretty dumb idea in the first place. We have a list of developers with company names next to them. Let readers make their own recognition evaluation. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get

Re: [HACKERS] Bogus bind() warnings

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
-in-IPv4 NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Andrew Sullivan writes: I'm not sure that's all it's for. Every time we talk about using Postgres, people want to know who else uses it. True, but for that you're looking at the wrong list. This is the list of contributors, not of users. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
just requested to be on it. Well, if there must be a list, then why not be on it? :-) It is there for IT department managers, PHBs, people considering PostgreSQL, and people looking for high-end paid support. Great, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
to guarantee any kind of longevity of the project. I think that will be hard to do (because there is, in fact, absolutely no relation). But hopefully, by the time we've arrived there, this silly web site fragmentation will be over and this question will be moot. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Changes to Contributor List

2003-11-07 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Robert Treat writes: I disagree... the tech and the content are separate issues, let's keep them that way or we'll never make progress on either of them. Just because one solution is technically more simple, it doesn't mean that it is the overall best solution. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] What do you want me to do?

2003-11-07 Thread Peter Eisentraut
their private notes lists in public, add comments on why things are difficult, if the perspective changes, etc. I have the feeling that key developers for the most part ignore the TODO list and keep their private set of notes. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end

[HACKERS] Timestamps on schema objects

2003-11-07 Thread Peter Eisentraut
? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] What do you want me to do?

2003-11-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
that are wishlist items and those that are old project lore and would have been duplicates of existing recorded bugs. So even if you count in bugs coming in through other channels, this should be manageable. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] New approach to ye olde cross-datatype indexing problem

2003-11-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
which is right and left. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match

Re: [HACKERS] NetBSD/acorn32

2003-11-09 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Patrick Welche writes: PostgreSQL 7.5devel on arm-unknown-netbsdelf1.6ZE, compiled by GCC gcc (GCC) 3.3.2-nb1 Can you test 7.4? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] pgsql CVS build failure on Debian GNU/Linux 3.0

2003-11-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
strk writes: I can't build postgresql from CVS. Any help ? Search the fine archives. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister

Re: [HACKERS] bugzilla (Was: What do you want me to do?)

2003-11-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
developers of database-backed applications are dying to have people like that at their disposal. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister

Re: [HACKERS] bugzilla (Was: What do you want me to do?)

2003-11-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
and egroupware but haven't got around it.. When I said I've been doing a bit of that, I meant the developers of eGroupWare call me once a week with questions. So maybe you can take over dbmail. :-) -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] bugzilla (Was: What do you want me to do?)

2003-11-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
PostgreSQL yet, get a good sense for what the feeling of the project maintainers toward database abstraction layers is, then throw out a design plan. But the key is to show results, not intentions. That is how open-source development works. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] Bogus bind() warnings

2003-11-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane writes: Actually, I think that that may be expected behavior depending on the vintage of the kernel. Note the following comment in StreamServerPort(): Can we make the warning less misleading if IPV6_V6ONLY does not exist? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

[HACKERS] About the partial tarballs

2003-11-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Do we have any data on how many people download the partial tarballs (-base, -opt, etc.)? I have a feeling that more people are confused by them than use them. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you

Re: [HACKERS] About the partial tarballs

2003-11-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
install the documentation??? How is that a good idea? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings

Re: [HACKERS] NetBSD/acorn32

2003-11-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Patrick Welche writes: All 93 tests passed. with 7.4rc2 on NetBSD-1.6ZE/acorn32. Added, thanks. I put it under CPU arm32, because that's the actual CPU, which PostgreSQL depends on, and acorn32 is just the system type. Let me know if this is grossly incorrect. -- Peter Eisentraut

Re: [HACKERS] Successful proting report for 7.4beta4 on Irix and

2003-11-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
is just Itanium/Linux AFAICT. What is the URL for reporting successful ports? --Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan

Re: [HACKERS] Any more must fix issues for 7.4?

2003-11-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
compatibility headers of ECPG. But we need some more information from Informix users about that. It will have to wait for 7.4.1. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives

Re: [HACKERS] Any more must fix issues for 7.4?

2003-11-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian writes: Oh, I forgot about that. This leaves datetime.h and decimal.h in /pgsql/include. I don't see how 7.4.1 can fix that because people will not be using initdb. This has nothing to do with initdb. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] unsupported platforms

2003-11-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
to test NetBSD on -general a week or so ago. So I think we'd have heard something by now. But feel free to solicit more people. Maybe writing to a NetBSD project mailing list would work. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] XML Docbook

2003-11-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Karel Zak writes: XML advantage: All very true. XML disadvantage: - no arbitrary parameter entities If someone can solve this for me, I'm ready to switch. Follow-up to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] heads up -- subtle change of behavior of new initdb

2003-11-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Greg Stark writes: Wouldn't at least 0750 be safe? That way putting a user in the postgres group would grant him access to be able to browse around and read the files in pg_data. That assumes that there is a restricted postgres group, which is not guaranteed. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] ALTER TABLE modifications

2003-11-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
-coding does not count.) -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Problem with compilation 7.3.4

2003-11-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
option --docdir, but it's too late to philosophize about that now.) Comments? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] logical column position

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
you want to do the old col = col + 1 in the presence of a unique index. (c) Do I need to consider inheritance? Inheritance is based on column names, so initially no, but if there is a command to alter the column order, then it should have an ONLY option. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
number changes in the past weren't because the features were cool, but because the project has moved to a new phase. I don't see any such move happening. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our

[HACKERS] Release cycle length

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
for a 6 month cycle, consisting of approximately 4 months of development and 2 months of cleanup. So the start of the next beta could be the 1st of March. What do you think? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9

Re: [HACKERS] Release cycle length

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
. Something went *really* wrong there. Part of that may have been that few people were actually aware of that schedule. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http

Re: [HACKERS] Release cycle length

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
That was a Bruce Momjian estimate mentioned in passing, not an affirmed plan. Also, I think Bruce's estimates are notoriously off by years. ;-) -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] Release cycle length

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Neil Conway writes: Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The time from release 7.3 to release 7.4 was 355 days, an all-time high. We really need to shorten that. Why is that? First, if you develop something today, the first time users would realistically get a hand at it would

Re: [HACKERS] Release cycle length

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
-- instead of 6. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings

Re: [HACKERS] logical column position

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
, they need to do another. That seems fair. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] Release cycle length

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
part of this year., but dates for steps such as feature freeze then, proposals for open issues fielded then, string freeze then, release candiate then. 5. If need be, have a release management team that manages 0-4. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
the obvious: Cygwin is your friend in exactly this case. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Dann Corbit writes: At the risk of stating the obvious: Cygwin is your friend in exactly this case. Yes, but how friendly is it? What are you asking here? Is it easy to install and use? Yes. Cygwin requires a license for commercial use. No, it does not. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

2003-11-18 Thread Peter Eisentraut
by this License; they are outside its scope. The act of running the Program is not restricted, ... So commercial use is clearly allowed. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

2003-11-18 Thread Peter Eisentraut
television viewers? 33% -- better entertainment That does not say that better entertainment will attract new viewers, just that the existing viewers think that. Most nonviewers might in fact be perfectly content with their way of living. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] Build farm

2003-11-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut
that the build farm becomes useful. IMO, that would mean *more* machines than are currently lines in the supported-platforms table. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ

Re: [HACKERS] Build farm

2003-11-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut
all the above, with great effort. But by throwing out the code and have real people test them on real systems with real applications, you can do much better. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched

Re: [HACKERS] A big thanks to SuSE

2003-11-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Lamar Owen writes: And he is getting paid to do it, unlike me. That's news to me. :-) -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] Build farm

2003-11-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut
might find that adopting the source code of the Samba suite to PostgreSQL is harder than writing a new one. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Build farm

2003-11-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut
LWP and talking to a CGI script. That will be the difficult part to organize, if it's supposed to be distributed and autonomous. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please

Re: [HACKERS] ALTER COLUMN/logical column position

2003-11-20 Thread Peter Eisentraut
and logical numbers in the backend in some places. So one option is to replace some uses of attnum by attlognum. The other optionis to replace *all* uses of attnum by attphysnum and then replace some uses of attphysnum by attnum. To me, this looks like an equal risk as far as the backend goes. -- Peter

[HACKERS] ObjectWeb/Clustered JDBC

2003-11-21 Thread Peter Eisentraut
. In particular, it provides redundancy, load balancing, caching, and even database independence. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs

Re: [HACKERS] Function parameter names

2003-11-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut
(currently 1024 bytes) in every pg_proc row. In this case, a regular name[] would be more suitable. Just be sure to put it after all the fixed-length fields. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner

[HACKERS] initdb mkdir_p() doesn't work

2003-11-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Here is what I get: peter ~$ pg-install/bin/initdb pg-install/var/data ... creating directory pg-install/var/data ... initdb: failed No points for details in the error message here either. If I create pg-install/var first, then it work. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

[HACKERS] Executable files in CVS

2003-11-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut
While people add more executable files to CVS (cf. initdb.c), can we do something about it? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http

Re: [HACKERS] Executable files in CVS

2003-11-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut
in the group pgsql and that group having write permission. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend

[HACKERS] Considerations for lib64

2003-11-24 Thread Peter Eisentraut
about these later.) -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get

[HACKERS] A rough roadmap for internationalization fixes

2003-11-24 Thread Peter Eisentraut
. This could easily take a long time, but I feel that even if we have to stop after 2., 3., or 4. at feature freeze, we'd be a lot farther. Comments? Anything else that needs fixing? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] Using -Wshadow

2003-11-24 Thread Peter Eisentraut
of. We might be chasing warnings forever. I'm not sure what the point is anyway. Shadowing is perfectly well-defined and I've never heard of a real problem because of it. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can

Re: [HACKERS] Build farm

2003-11-24 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian writes: FYI, the HP testdrive farm, http://www.testdrive.hp.com, has shared directories for most of the machines, meaning you can CVS update once and telnet in to compile for each platform. Except that you can't open connections to the outside from these machines. -- Peter

Re: [HACKERS] A rough roadmap for internationalization fixes

2003-11-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut
implement one using memcmp() or whatever you like. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so

Re: [HACKERS] A rough roadmap for internationalization fixes

2003-11-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut
(or something else). If it's not up to what we need, than fix that library instead. I wasn't aware that glib had this. I'll look. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] ObjectWeb/Clustered JDBC

2003-11-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut
(together.at). -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [HACKERS] A rough roadmap for internationalization fixes

2003-11-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut
, but that is much too bloated. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html

Re: [HACKERS] protocol compatibility between 7.2 and 7.4

2003-11-26 Thread Peter Eisentraut
, please post details. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

[HACKERS] NetBSD Sparc OK

2003-11-26 Thread Peter Eisentraut
FYI, I've successfully tested on NetBSD Sparc and added it to the supported list for 7.4.1. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings

Re: [HACKERS] Viewing Parse Tree of a query from front end

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
that make each statement print out the parse tree. I think it's show_parse_tree or something like that. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command

Re: [HACKERS] 7.5 Plans

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
-hanging fruit in there, for instance Finishing ECPG's dynamic SQL support Column privileges Updatable views Distinct data types Basic array support BLOB and CLOB types Chained transactions Basic roles -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] 7.5 Plans

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings

Re: [HACKERS] building outside source tree

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Neil Conway writes: Building PostgreSQL outside the source tree is slightly broken: I've installed a patch that should fix this. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ

Re: [HACKERS] Encoding problem with 7.4

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
E.Rodichev writes: I just noticed some incorrect behaviour for postgresql-7.4 related to locale. Maybe you should first read the documentation to understand how it actually works. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

[HACKERS] -fpic vs. -fPIC

2003-11-28 Thread Peter Eisentraut
other suggestions on how to deal with this? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html

Re: [HACKERS] PL/SQL packages

2003-11-28 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Karel Zak writes: in our TODO is the item: Add PL/PgSQL packages. I think the interesting part are the package-global variables. The name hierarchy seems completely redundant with schemas. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] Change in behaviour of ORDER BY clause in PG7.3

2003-11-28 Thread Peter Eisentraut
it. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings

Re: [HACKERS] cvs head configure broken for --with-krb5 on RH9

2003-11-29 Thread Peter Eisentraut
. filenameconfigure/ will check for the required header files and libraries to make sure that your Kerberos installation is sufficient before proceeding. /para /listitem /varlistentry -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] cvs head configure broken for --with-krb5 on RH9

2003-11-29 Thread Peter Eisentraut
--with-krb5=/usr/kerberos checking build system type... i586-pc-linux-gnu ... checking whether to build with Kerberos 5 support... configure: error: no argument expected for --with-krb5 option -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] -fpic vs. -fPIC

2003-11-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
they all have to be recompiled. Considering that mostly everyone else uses -fPIC across the board (because it is libtool's behavior and also the policy of several distributions), either no one has used PostgreSQL on those platforms or there is no problem. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED

[HACKERS] Foreign key data type mismatches

2003-12-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
characteristics between the two data types? -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] Encoding problem with 7.4

2003-12-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
E.Rodichev writes: It is incorrect, because database test is, really, in KOI8, NOT in SQL_ASCII in this example, as I explained in my mail. The encoding is only a declaration of your intentions. What you actually put into the database is your responsibility. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4.1 ... slight change of scheduale ...

2003-12-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Marc G. Fournier writes: To accomodate ppls travel scheduales, we are going to move the 7.4.1 release up to Monday, *unless* there is a report before then about something that needs to be fixed first ... we know of nothing outstanding right now ... A bug in the information schema concerning

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4.1 ... slight change of scheduale ...

2003-12-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Marc G. Fournier wrote: A bug in the information schema concerning the bit types must be fixed. Does anyone have a patch for this? I suppose not, but it's being worked on. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives?

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres 7.3.5 and count('x')

2003-12-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is COUNT('x') supposed to return? 1? Is that legal SQL? Why not? Because there is nothing to count. In general, SELECT count(expr) FROM table1; counts the number of rows in table1 where expr evaluates to not null. If table1

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/ oc/src/sgml/Tag: oc/src/sgml/REL ...

2003-12-09 Thread Peter Eisentraut
: programlisting DROP SCHEMA information_schema CASCADE; \i /usr/local/pgsql/share/information_schema.sql /programlisting Substitute your installation path in the second command. /para --On Sunday, December 07, 2003 06:18:50 -0400 Peter Eisentraut - PostgreSQL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CVSROOT

Re: [HACKERS] pljava revisited

2003-12-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote: libpq++ got heaved overboard largely because the autoconf burden for it was too high, That's news to me. Certainly the overhead doesn't grow smaller by splitting stuff up in smaller pieces. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't

Re: [HACKERS] pljava revisited

2003-12-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Thomas Hallgren wrote: What are your thoughts and ideas? Instead of making up your own stuff, there's a whole SQL standard that tells you how Java embedded in an SQL server should work. Of course that doesn't tell you about implementation details. ---(end of

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